Thinking about getting a dog

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Thinking about getting a Border Collie but I have never had pets before, big step obviously so not really sure what to expect. I know there are loads of animal loves on the forum Any advice, expectations etc... that you would like to share with me
  • Profile picture of the author Surminga
    I have a dog - yes they are a lot of work but they are indeed man's best friend.

    It is very hit and miss sometimes with dogs, it depends on the training, the temperament and your lifestyle.

    Border collies are an extremely active breed of dog so beware, they are also worker dogs. Be wary of the breed you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author msudawgs56
      I love dogs. I have two Australian Shepherds and I can tell you from personal experience with herding dogs and Border Collies.. you better have alot of space and be prepared to spend around 2 hours a day at the minimum walking and exercising this dog. I"m not talking about a short walk to let it go to the restroom. I'm talking ball throwing, running, Frisbee fetching.
      Border collies are notorious for developing really bad habits. They want to work 24 hrs a day. They will tear up stuff, chase cars, pets, and people.

      If you do not provide adequate exercise, the border collie will run your life and make it miserable. They are extremely smart, so smart they usually get themselves into trouble super easy. Awesome dogs, but your lifestyle has to match this dog. So if you hike daily, ride your bike for miles, or run this dog may work. Definitely not an apartment dog for someone who works on the computer for multiple hours per day.

      Good luck and I hope you find a dog that matches your lifestyle. Dogs are awesome!
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      • Profile picture of the author Riptor
        Some great advice above mate, and as you are UK based I would highly recommend that you visit the Dog's Trust which is where <<<<< she came from. Good Luck.

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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by msudawgs56 View Post

        I love dogs. I have two Australian Shepherds and I can tell you from personal experience with herding dogs and Border Collies.. you better have alot of space and be prepared to spend around 2 hours a day at the minimum walking and exercising this dog. I"m not talking about a short walk to let it go to the restroom. I'm talking ball throwing, running, Frisbee fetching.
        Border collies are notorious for developing really bad habits. They want to work 24 hrs a day. They will tear up stuff, chase cars, pets, and people.

        If you do not provide adequate exercise, the border collie will run your life and make it miserable. They are extremely smart, so smart they usually get themselves into trouble super easy. Awesome dogs, but your lifestyle has to match this dog. So if you hike daily, ride your bike for miles, or run this dog may work. Definitely not an apartment dog for someone who works on the computer for multiple hours per day.

        Good luck and I hope you find a dog that matches your lifestyle. Dogs are awesome!
        Thank you My grandad has had a border collie for like 12 years now He just said everything you just said. Not sure on what one yet, I would like a clever dog but not a massive dog, was thinking maybe a golden Labrador.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
      I've never owned that breed of dog before, but any dog is good.

      I'm sure a lot of people who see me around on here know how much I love dogs.. lol

      Can't go wrong with a canine companion!

      I have a chocolate lab/pitbull mix, we rescued her from the pound when she was about 5 or 6 weeks old. Shes the sweetest, most loving, loyal dog you could ever ask for (as long as she knows you and I'm home, of course)

      She seems to freak out when I'm gone & becomes very protective. But that's a good thing.

      Now, I wouldn't say that means she is a guard dog, since I didn't train her to be violent.

      BUT she's definitely a great warning system. LOL I'm the security system.

      Although lately I've been seeing a lot of really cute Corgi pics around the web, so I'm thinking about getting one of those sometime soon.. that way my current pup has a playmate for when I'm busy!

      Whatever you get, make sure you spoil them with some Frosty Paws every now & again - My dog LOVES the peanut butter flavor ones!
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      • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
        Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

        I've never owned that breed of dog before, but any dog is good.

        I'm sure a lot of people who see me around on here know how much I love dogs.. lol

        Can't go wrong with a canine companion!

        I have a chocolate lab/pitbull mix, we rescued her from the pound when she was about 5 or 6 weeks old. Shes the sweetest, most loving, loyal dog you could ever ask for (as long as she knows you and I'm home, of course)

        She seems to freak out when I'm gone & becomes very protective. But that's a good thing.

        Now, I wouldn't say that means she is a guard dog, since I didn't train her to be violent.

        BUT she's definitely a great warning system. LOL I'm the security system.

        Although lately I've been seeing a lot of really cute Corgi pics around the web, so I'm thinking about getting one of those sometime soon.. that way my current pup has a playmate for when I'm busy!

        Whatever you get, make sure you spoil them with some Frosty Paws every now & again - My dog LOVES the peanut butter flavor ones!
        "I didn't train her to be violent"... keywords, right there! Thank you!!!!

        We had a stray come on to our property the other day, turns out she was a pitbull/boxer/lab mix! WHAT A SUPER DOG! We found her owner, but had to keep her overnight with our dogs, and she did GREAT! Slept on our bed, and even under the covers!

        I wish more people would understand that their are no dangerous dog breeds, just owners.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I second msudawgs56. I have a Border and he's a crap ton of work. You have to keep them working, otherwise they'll drive you crazy. If you have kids, they'll try to herd them.

    Don't get me wrong. In the right environment, Borders are great dogs.

    Oh, and they shed like mad. My wife has blown through several vacuums.

    If I can be so bold as to recommend a breed, I highly doubt I'll have another dog that isn't a Boxer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    Hi butters!

    A lot of great advice above! Labs, if you're thinking about that still, are a lot of work also. They are a super active dog! We have a lab/shepherd mix (rescue) and he drove me crazy for 2 years! He is a wonderful dog now, but I had to continually keep him busy. We do live on a ranch, so it was easier.

    Golden Retrievers are an excellent breed, super smart, sweet and great watch dogs. All dogs come with challenges, so I'm glad that you're asking before just going out and getting a cute puppy! :p

    Perhaps if you said more about your lifestyle and what kind of land you have available, we could help you out more.

    If you don't have a herd, don't get a herding dog. My sister has two Heelers and a small yard and wonders why she can't control them! :rolleyes:

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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Originally Posted by Khemosabi View Post

      Hi butters!

      A lot of great advice above! Labs, if you're thinking about that still, are a lot of work also. They are a super active dog! We have a lab/shepherd mix (rescue) and he drove me crazy for 2 years! He is a wonderful dog now, but I had to continually keep him busy. We do live on a ranch, so it was easier.

      Golden Retrievers are an excellent breed, super smart, sweet and great watch dogs. All dogs come with challenges, so I'm glad that you're asking before just going out and getting a cute puppy! :p

      Perhaps if you said more about your lifestyle and what kind of land you have available, we could help you out more.

      If you don't have a herd, don't get a herding dog. My sister has two Heelers and a small yard and wonders why she can't control them! :rolleyes:

      ~ Theresa
      I got a three bedroom house, fair in size, reasonable garden, not massive but not tiny. Near my house I have plenty of fields to run the dog over to and also my girlfriends parents own a massive farm which we could easily take him to. I jog 3 times a week so I would go jogging with the dog in the afternoon or in the morning. Not really sure what to say I work from home so I am always here.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrBishop
    Be firm with them when they are young and when the dog gets older he will be a great companion! When I was training my yellow lab we were very strict with her even if some of the things she did was "cute". She is the best dog ever now :-P
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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    Wow, sounds like you could really take care of a Border Collie! I had a Collie Shepherd mix and she was a wonderful dog!!! If you can put in the time for this breed, then go for it!

    I know a few people that have this breed, and all of them swear by them. And, to clarify, my sister is a great doggie mom, but she and her husband are at work most of the day. The dogs have a nice area, but are left bored.

    Now, if you don't mind, I'll share a funny story about my Collie..
    Before we got our ranch, I lived in a house with a decent sized yard. I would leave the slider to the house open so she could come in and out when I was home.

    Well, I was busy one day and NOT paying attention to her. I had a collection of stuffed animals (all sylvester the cat) and some matching slippers. When I checked on her, all of the "cats" and my slippers were outside in a collective group, under our tree. She had, herded them. She was there with them, keeping them all safe!

    With any herding dog, don't be surprised if they move their "babies" around, and always make sure they have a lot of "babies". It will keep them busy when you're trying to work!

    Good luck and I wish you all the best!!!

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    • Profile picture of the author butters
      Originally Posted by Khemosabi View Post

      Wow, sounds like you could really take care of a Border Collie! I had a Collie Shepherd mix and she was a wonderful dog!!! If you can put in the time for this breed, then go for it!

      I know a few people that have this breed, and all of them swear by them. And, to clarify, my sister is a great doggie mom, but she and her husband are at work most of the day. The dogs have a nice area, but are left bored.

      Now, if you don't mind, I'll share a funny story about my Collie..
      Before we got our ranch, I lived in a house with a decent sized yard. I would leave the slider to the house open so she could come in and out when I was home.

      Well, I was busy one day and NOT paying attention to her. I had a collection of stuffed animals (all sylvester the cat) and some matching slippers. When I checked on her, all of the "cats" and my slippers were outside in a collective group, under our tree. She had, herded them. She was there with them, keeping them all safe!

      With any herding dog, don't be surprised if they move their "babies" around, and always make sure they have a lot of "babies". It will keep them busy when you're trying to work!

      Good luck and I wish you all the best!!!

      ~ Theresa
      Haha I remember giving my grandads collie a bone like candy cane thing for Christmas, it was massive, next day I go down to his house and there was 15 holes in the garden . He buried the bone in one of the holes and filled all the others back in, crafty pesky dog! Found it on my 10th hole! Gramps said to me, that'll teach you! .
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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    As with what Who's That Guru said, any dog is a good dog!

    Your story about the bone was hilarious! We have a pair of sisters (golden retriever/shepherd mix), my one girl looks like a black golden retriever, she's just gorgeous! She likes to take my things and carry them around with her. She's also the perfect mouser!

    Why I'm telling you this is: Herd dogs, Retrievers, Labs and such all use their mouths. Herd dogs bite heals, Retrievers are SUPPOSED to go get things (mine don't , oh, they'll go get them, they won't bring them back!) And, Labs are known for their hunting/ability to bring back your "target".

    Their mouth's are a very emotional part of their "being". Once an owner understands that, they're on their way to success!

    Again, have fun, good luck and keep us posted!

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  • If you want a Border Collie, you could start small and work your way up! Get a Sheltie!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I'm a dog person through and through.

      Border colliles are fantastic and one of the smartest breeds. It sounds as if you have the space this breed needs. They are herding dogs and so smart you need to keep them busy as they like to have a job to do.

      Personally - I never go for "breeds" though I've had several pure bred dogs. I've found the best pets I've had were adopted, second chance dogs. They are so happy to have love and attention they knock themselves out pleasing you.

      Best pets in the world are "any breed" mixed with a labrador. The labs have a wonderful friendly personality that seem to transfer to any dog that has lab ancestors.

      My own choice for a purebred in the situation you describe would be a Golden Retriever. Less hyper than a border collie, smart and trainable.

      P.S. NO matter what breed you get - the first year or so of "puppyhood" is spent chewing on things. The bigger the breed, the more damage to the "things". This can be easily managed with toys and play.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gail_Curran
        One point that no one has mentioned yet - never buy a dog from a pet store. They are ALL puppy mill dogs or dogs from careless backyard breeders trying to make a quick buck. No breeder worthy of the name would sell her dogs to a pet store. So don't be fooled, and don't support or encourage the abuse of animals in this way.

        If you want a purebred, seek out a reputable breeder who breeds for good health and temperament, not for short-term profits. A breeder who tests her dogs for health problems, maintains records, and provides good living conditions. A breeder who keeps the dogs until at least 8 weeks of age and does her best to socialize them. A breeder who is selective about who buys her dogs, because she genuinely wants each puppy to find a loving and responsible family.

        Otherwise, as Kay and others have said, get a dog from a shelter. They make awesome pets.

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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    Lots of excellent advice posted. It's great that you have had experience with collies.

    My beloved 'Riley' is a mixed breed with border collie being one of them. Her energizer batteries finally wore out this year. She is 16 yrs old and is now going through the 'cantankerous' stage of life as many before her have done at that age. She fully expects to be waited on, talked to and will do anything to get her tummy rubbed! She is talking to me right now and I am ignoring her....so she raises her tone and continues. If I ignore her long enough, she will bark - then she get's a firm "no bark" command from me. That's when she comes over to me and sits 'pretty' next to me smiling and staring with those big sad puppy eyes!

    Energy - OMG!, for 15 yrs this ole girl was full of energy. She would swim all day from spring through till fall. She loved to chase rabbits and would do that until the rabbit could no longer move. She would then just smell and lick the rabbit - never ever harmed one. I was fortunate to have over 5-600 acres for her to run, swim and play herself out. I've seen her come home in the winter literally covered in icicles after being on a chase. It's was just a game for her.

    I always remember the time I was just sitting on the dock while Riley swam. A fisherman had come by early on in the day and arrived back about six hours later. He asked "don't you give that dog a break?" to which I replied "You be my guest and try to get her out of the water!!!" It was nothing for her to swim for 2-3 hours without ever coming to shore. At a young age, she got used to swimming along side me while I was kayaking. Boaters used to ride over to us and question her ability to swim so far. I started by kayaking close to shore where Riley could walk the path - nope, she wanted to swim. I used to lift her out of the water and put her in the kayak - she wouldn't stay and would ever so gently crawl out and jump back into the water.

    Yes they are highly intelligent and social dogs. Riley knows what "time to go home" means among other things. If we were someplace else and Riley was in the water, as soon as I said "time to go home", Riley would get her frisbee down under her paws and literally swim in circles all the while managing to keep the frisbee submerged and ignoring the command to 'come'. She was worse than a kid when it come to getting out of the water.

    BTW, they also learn how to spell pretty darn quick She even knows phone numbers...but, she's still Ma's baby girl and she knows it I love her death.

    One thing, no - actually two things I disciplined her for was the nipping and the paws up on the counter. Her Dad used to encourage the paws up while entertaining. He thought it quite cute that she would watch him prepare steaks for the BBQ and mix drinks for friends. I wouldn't tolerate that, so managed to break her of that habit. In doing so, I also had to discipline the neighbor, as he thought it was priceless every time Riley showed up while he was preparing his supper

    The nipping, we had to many visitors with little ones and I didn't want Riley nipping them or anyone. If you train them at a young age not to nip, you won't have the worry about somebody reporting you dog for 'biting' them.

    The first meal Riley ate when we got her as a pup included grilled t-bone steak. To this day, I still grill Riley's meat Yeah, she trained me (her Dad died when she was 3). Dad always grilled meat for her, so I didn't have the heart to quit.

    Riley can no longer go for a hike nor a short walk and she only went into the water three times this year - just long enough to plop down have a drink then get up and out. She has personality galore and throughout the day she has her moments when she's right full of spunk and reverts back to those days when she was full of p*ss and vinegar so to speak.

    I know her time is limited now so I will continue to spoil her and I will do what I can to keep her comfy and happy

    Best of luck in choosing a breed. No matter the breed you choose, just remember - all dogs are creatures of habit. If you start something, be prepared to continue it If you plan to travel with your dog, get them used to a vehicle asap or you may end up with a dog that gets car sick.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingva
    We have a 5 month old Border Collie that I didn't want. You need to have alot of free time or money for daycare because a Border Collie will run your butt off 18 hours a day. They are high energy and they cannot eat a regular dog diet. You can kill them with that... we have to buy special (expensive) food because he can't eat a high protein diet.

    My recommendation would be to not get a Border Collie and adopt a dog from the shelter. The best dog we ever had was a shelter dog.
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