Death Sentence, right or wrong?

When justice repeatedly leads to unfair and sometimes completely erroneous convictions (ie person convicted had nothing to do with the alleged crime), it is hard for me to support the death sentence. In a country with Egypt's random justice based largely on wealth and connections more than on innocence or guilt, it is unspeakable.

Murders aren't the same. Some are for sociopathic reasons and the sociopath will be more than likely to kill again. In that circumstance, yeah get rid of them, they will never be safe to be on the streets. Some murders result from rage, sometimes from long term tormenting going on behind the scenes, and the killer would most likely never hurt another living soul. If they aren't a danger to anyone else, they shouldn't be killed.

As far as Egypt. I'm sorry to see those people got the same trash they stood to throw out.

I don't support the death penalty, then again I've never been in the shoes of a victims family.

The thing that bothers me most about the judicial system is a jury, people judging people they don't know or care about. The last thing I would want is a jury box of people that don't even want to be involved in the court case to be judging anything.

Then you have the people that have been in prison for years that eventually have the charges against them dropped. If things like this can happen (charges dropped after years of imprisonment), I imagine innocent people have been convicted & sentenced to death for crimes they didn't commit.

A judicial system that isn't perfect isn't acceptable IMO.

Not sure if you're asking specifically about the Egyptian thing or about the death penalty overall.

I used to be for it. But as I got older have changed my mind. Someone once made the point that a criminal actually suffers more living year after year locked up as they have time to think about their life.

I don't necessarily believe they suffer more. I'm not sure a life sentence is designed to have someone suffer. Maybe it's just to get a truly dangerous person away from people.

No easy answer on this but I vote thumbs down on it.

Me personally I would like the UK to make life mean life, people are getting 5 years for killing someone it's crazy the value the justice system puts on a life


But Im not a supporter of the death penalty as I see this as an easy way out for the criminal

I see a problem with the view that the purpose of prison or execution is to make the person "suffer". That's NOT a justice system, that's a pure vengeance system. Yes, the families of victims suffer. Is the person who will murder actually sane, though? I've heard people proclaim some very cruel deaths for serial killers - yet can someone who can murder serially actually be considered SANE? I'm not saying just allow them to go do it. I'm saying that these people's brains are malfunctioning on scale that they can't be fixed. So people want to torture them. Kewl. Go for it yourself. To sit back and say "they should torture this person endlessly and cruelly" is just as f***ing sick as the killer - worse even. They want that done to another life form - but couldn't do it themselves. They just want everyone else to be just as sick in the head as the person who committed the crime so they can WATCH or HEAR about how the killer is being abused daily. That's pretty sick in itself.

The purpose of the death sentence is to put down humans whose brains malfunction so badly that they are a risk to everyone else. People escape from prisons - and sometimes when a sociopath has enough control of their head they can actually end up on parole. I don't find it any more humane to put someone in a cage for the rest of their life than to kill them.

That said, I really don't trust our judicial system to pronounce such a sentence though. There are too many innocent people that get railroaded in our society. I know a guy that served 14 years for killing in self defense. The guy he killed was a relative of someone on the police force. The whole town was glad to have the guy gone. He was a pedophile, rapist, and a thief and got away with everything he did because his relative protected him from prosecution. One day he tried to rob the wrong guy. And what about the uni-bomber? Government run mind control experiment, and he had to pay for having his mind zapped. TPTB were glad to get rid of him - it was the people running that experiment that were responsible and should have taken the capital punishment.

The only time the death penalty should be invoked is in cases that the killer is a serial killer that can't be stopped from killing.

This probably isn't a healthy thread for me to be reading, or responding to with the news I just received a few hours ago, but in this mindset: I am for the death penalty providing there is no chance of reforming those who chose to commit such wicked crimes.

Having read the thread, I do support self-defense, and be it the right of every human being to defend oneself,even if it results in death, absolutely. I too believe in the right to bear arms... always have. After all, removing guns from the innocent (i.e. hunters, hobbyists, rape victims, homeowners, etc...) would likely only produce more ill threat from those who possess them illegally or use them for the wrong purposes.

In regard to the death penalty, I do agree it is a short form of suffering for those truly guilty and deserving of the death penalty, and if I trusted the system not to let them escape or be released, perhaps I'd vote differently.

However, each murder crime is specific to the details of the case, and shuold be addressed according to such. I do not believe it's just an eye-for-an-eye thinking, but rather taking out the trash that cannot, and likely will not ever find any true appreciation for the quality of life they've been afforded.

Again, that doesn't mean I believe every convicted murderer should be punished by death. Living imprisoned is not a welcomed thought for me, and thank God for that or I may have acted on my impulses a few times past and present.

I think we can't just use some feel-good blanket statement to beat this dead horse with.

Every situation is different. In some cases, I OPPOSE the death penalty.

In other circumstances, like for instance, the Jodi Arias trial - I SUPPORT the death penalty.

Jodi stabbed Travis Alexander more than 27 times (29 I think?)

THEN, she slit his throat from ear to ear, so deep in fact, that it almost beheaded him completely.

THEN, as if that weren't enough, she shot him in the forehead at point blank range.

Yet she has the nerve to try and claim self defense??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!

That is MURDER.

Travis was executed 3 different ways - however Jodi is participating in bullshit programs called "Inmate Idol" while being supported by OUR tax dollars???

YEAH RIGHT.

When they convict her - because she WILL be convicted - I say they hand her the death penalty, and then follow thru with it the following business day.

NO APPEALS (she ADMITTED doing all of these things) and NO drawn-out process, like spending 40 more years in jail, singing her favorite songs for "Inmate Idol" and any other ridiculous crap we have to pay for.

Put her down like the rabid piece of garbage that she is.

BUT - Like I said, no two situations are the same, so you can't just use some blanket statement to justify the consequences for every crime.

Some people deserve life in prison.

Others deserve to be put to death.

As for in Egypt.. hell if I know.. never been there, never plan on going there. lol they can do whatever they want to do.

Don't feel bad. Obama said we had 57 states.

LOL you know we're screwed when the POTUS doesn't even know how many states we have.