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Hello all fellow Warriors,

I hope that it is order for me to post this here and I am not breaking any of the
rules.

Some of you may have heard of David Icke.
You might want to take a look at his website
David Icke Website

Now one of his concerns is that the world is run by an elite and as such is not
run for the advantage of the general population, but for the elite themselves.
If you take a look at his website, you will understand what he means by this.
On the home page are headlines updated daily and also there are many articles
under the "Archives" link near the top of the home page, these will give you a
good idea of what he is about.

At the beginning of this month he announced that he intended to form an Internet
TV station which is to be called "The People's Voice".
The link "THE PEOPLE ARE STIRRING AND THE LION IS PREPARING TO ROAR" on the home
page explains this, also click on the blue bar with the title "Click here for
video presentation and detailed background" on that page for more details.
Basically though it would be a 24 hour TV station which would broadcast totally
unedited news from around the world, it would have various people being
interviewed etc.

I am sure that most of you will be aware that the news we get in countries such
as the UK & the USA are hardly unbiased. Information form countries such as
Libria, Syria, and palastine are biased towards the motivation and ideas of
what one might call the elite (sometimes known as the illuminati).
The peoples voice would broadcast the truth and without any political bias or
elite interference.

This project needs financing and on the 1st June when he announced this project
he said that the TV station would go ahead if he cound raise 100,000 GBP (current
exchange rate 1.54 USD = 1 GBP.)
This target has been exceeded and currently stands at 218,000 GBP.
He has said thet the orginal 100,000 GBP was the bare minimum and with more money
the station would have much better resources ( e.g. outside broadcating units etc
). The new target, which would enable the station to function really well is
300,000 GBP and the deadline is set for the last day in June. Once the station
has established itself further financing will be achieved through advertising.

You may be aware that a couple of weeks ago the Bilderberg conference took place
in the UK. This take place annually and in a different country each year ( last
year it was the USA ), and is where global leaders, top corporation chiefs,
politicians etc get together to discuss global issues. A protest group met up at
the same time as the meeting and one of the speakers addressing the group was
David Icke.
His speech was brilliant and very meaningful. I strongly recommend thet you take
time to look at least the first 10 minutes of it - the speech is about 50
minutes in length and well worth watching.

this is the link

David Icke at the Bilderberg Festival 2013 - YouTube!

I thought that warriors may be interested in this information, particularly the
idea of a TV station which will tell the truth about what is going on in the
world free from any of the bias which is always present in the regular TV
broadcasts.

I have made a personal contribution for this TV station, and if any of you find
that you are in favor of this idea, perhaps you would like to make a
donation?

You will find the link to contribute on his website.
Of course there is no question of my receiving any favor or commision for any
donations. Non are ever paid and quite rightly so. I am not giving you a link for
payment, but you will find it easily on his website.

If you do make a donation, you will be entitled to a perk depending on the amount
you donate. The perks are listed on the site.

I have written this post because this project means a lot ot me and I thought
that warriors being independently minded people who are used to thinking outside
the box may also be interested in this.

Best wishes
Greg
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    a TV station which will tell the truth
    The truth as interpreted by Icke? Complete with reptilian theories?

    He's raised double his goal - and wants more? I know many people follow this man but I don't understand why.

    I've listened to his speeches and found a kernel of truth wrapped in a conjecture and driven into fantasy land. But that's just me...maybe I'm lacking in imagination.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Maybe this is what JFK was talking about...

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I agree we don't get the truth from mainstream media. And I've love to see a TV station that was free from bias and unafraid to tell the truth . . . but I don't think a guy that believes the world's political leaders are shape-shifting lizard people/aliens is the right guy for the job.

    Sorry about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I don't think I've ever seen anything about Icke.........but not sure if you're kidding or not, Dennis? Does he actually think that the elite are aliens? I've heard of people saying that, but never thought anyone really BELIEVED it.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    I've followed David Icke on and off for a while. He has said some fairly outrageous things, including the infamous accusation that leading politicians are shapeshifting reptilians. I think he has modified that position over the years to something more along the lines that negative entities control these people. This may not be so outrageous if you believe in things like demons, though more esoteric researchers usually use the word archons.

    I basically like Icke, even though I don't believe everything he says. Some of what he says is based on secondhand reports and interviews. I think many conspiracy type thinkers are susceptible to disinfo, and this has probably happened to Icke over the years.


    His overall message, though, is about personal empowerment and taking control back from the power elite.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'm not very familiar with Icke. Perhaps he draws the conclusion that since many of our leaders think and act like reptiles that they do in fact posses reptilian brains. As I recall from science class the reptilian brain is not well developed for advanced thinking as its primary function is sort of fight/flight along with a predatory and survival orientation. I can see where Icke might have come to certain apparently errant conclusions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      Davin Icke was - and still is - a complete fruitcake. About the only thing he did half decently in his professional life was sports presenting. He was actually quite good when fronting the BBC's sport flagship programme, Grandstand.

      If you want to know some real facts about "Son of the Godhead", and particularly his "Turquoise" period, this is nearer to the mark . . David Icke
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      • Profile picture of the author LarryC
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Davin Icke was - and still is - a complete fruitcake. About the only thing he did half decently in his professional life was sports presenting. He was actually quite good when fronting the BBC's sport flagship programme, Grandstand.

        If you want to know some real facts about "Son of the Godhead", and particularly his "Turquoise" period, this is nearer to the mark . . David Icke
        That's typical of the kind of superficial information you get on Wikipedia. Perfectly designed for the intellectually lazy, who want to be spoon fed truth in easily digestible paragraphs.

        Granted, the reptilian theory is a little out there, but the Son of the Godhead idea really isn't farfetched at all. As Icke has explained on various occasions, it's intrinsic to mysticism that we are all sons or daughters of God. At the risk of turning this into a religious thread, that is what Jesus was saying when he claimed to be the son of God.

        But it's easier to dismiss people who step outside the norm rather than going a little deeper.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        I don't think I've ever seen anything about Icke.........but not sure if you're kidding or not, Dennis? Does he actually think that the elite are aliens? I've heard of people saying that, but never thought anyone really BELIEVED it.
        HD beat me to it, but here you go Sal...

        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post


        . . . David Icke

        As with so many of these types of personalities, he has his own brand of intelligence and is fairly well-spoken. He offers enough thought-provoking ideas to draw a large group of followers. Not everything he says is crazy, but enough is that it casts doubt upon anything he says.

        Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

        That's typical of the kind of superficial information you get on Wikipedia. Perfectly designed for the intellectually lazy, who want to be spoon fed truth in easily digestible paragraphs.

        Granted, the reptilian theory is a little out there, but the Son of the Godhead idea really isn't farfetched at all. As Icke has explained on various occasions, it's intrinsic to mysticism that we are all sons or daughters of God. At the risk of turning this into a religious thread, that is what Jesus was saying when he claimed to be the son of God.

        But it's easier to dismiss people who step outside the norm rather than going a little deeper.

        Larry, call me intellectually lazy if it makes you feel better, but when I see things like this...

        "At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian."

        ...there isn't a lot "deeper" I need to go.
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        • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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          Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

          That's typical of the kind of superficial information you get on Wikipedia. Perfectly designed for the intellectually lazy, who want to be spoon fed truth in easily digestible paragraphs.
          Wikipedia have simply put into concise, FACTUAL reading, the entire history of Icke . . . a compilation of what's out there on many other sites and blogs, in bits and pieces.

          Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

          . . . that is what Jesus was saying when he claimed to be the son of God.
          Yeah but Icke is not Jesus, and that was thousands of years ago. I've yet to see Icke feed 5,000 with 5 loaves and 2 fish - even when he was commentating at football matches and had perfect opportunities to do so, with large crowds present.

          Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

          Ok, I hear you Dennis. But that was a summary from Wikipedia, and the person who wrote the entry is clearly hostile to Icke.
          Hostile? I thought it was an accurate account.

          With the greatest respect to you Larry, you're from the States. I was born and bred in the UK and was spoon-fed David Icke in my youth, early adulthood, and beyond. I've heard, seen, and analysed one hell of a lot more data on David Icke than most. My conclusion remains that he's a fruitcake.


          Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

          Internet rule #1

          Don't believe ANYTHING you read on Wikipedia.
          So you'd discredit Wikipedia in favour of the reptilian advocator. Credibility and craziness have nothing in common other that starting with the same letter of the alphabet.

          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          As with so many of these types of personalities, he has his own brand of intelligence and is fairly well-spoken. He offers enough thought-provoking ideas to draw a large group of followers.
          Similar to Uri Geller, who never really bent spoons with "his mind".
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Okay, I have never even heard of the guy before. You know, small home town girl and all that, but...

            Having a surname of Icke that I may be pronouncing wrong as "Icky" just doesn't compel me to learn more...

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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

              Ok, I hear you Dennis. But that was a summary from Wikipedia, and the person who wrote the entry is clearly hostile to Icke.
              I've heard him on radio shows too, like Coast to Coast, so I'm not going just by Wikipedia. Don't get me wrong, Larry, I think he's very interesting. And like I said before, he's intelligent. He just wouldn't be my choice for someone to head a TV station described as having the mission of broadcasting the unbiased truth. I think some of his beliefs would bias the mission.

              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Okay, I have never even heard of the guy before. You know, small home town girl and all that, but...

              Having a surname of Icke that I may be pronouncing wrong as "Icky" just doesn't compel me to learn more...

              Terra
              I believe it's pronounced "Ike" (rhymes with like).
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

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                I believe it's pronounced "Ike" (rhymes with like).
                Well, there is only one Ike I ever liked...

                "I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

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                • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                  the reptilian theory is a little out there
                  ya think?

                  I've heard of him because I do stay open to ideas - but once I've examined a bunch of ideas that sound like well phrased cockamamie...I move on.

                  He can be interesting - he presents his concepts and arguments well - but they don't add up for me. Others may love the guy or tolerate him and that's fine - but not liking him isn't wrong...it's a personal choice.
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                • Profile picture of the author LarryC
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Well, there is only one Ike I ever liked...

                  "I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

                  Terra
                  Funny, his great granddaughter, Laura Eisenhower is doing some interesting things. Anyone who's interested can Google her name. Just a warning, though: if you think David Icke is a kook, you should probably avoid her as well
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                    Originally Posted by LarryC View Post

                    Funny, his great granddaughter, Laura Eisenhower is doing some interesting things. Anyone who's interested can Google her name. Just a warning, though: if you think David Icke is a kook, you should probably avoid her as well
                    Yep, I've seen a video of her. She's a little out there. I like to think I'm open minded about things, and taste a lot of diversity of thought . . . I'm just careful about what I swallow.
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                • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Well, there is only one Ike I ever liked...

                  "I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

                  Terra
                  WOW! If IKE REALLY said that, and meant it, "I LIKE IKE" ALSO! BTW I used the present tense to harken back to his campaign.

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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

                    WOW! If IKE REALLY said that, and meant it, "I LIKE IKE" ALSO! BTW I used the present tense to harken back to his campaign.

                    Steve
                    Yes, he actually did. He also said this: A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.

                    Here's a link to more of what he said, however some are not as profound as the first and one of them seems more like something former President George W. Bush would have said.

                    Dwight D. Eisenhower Quotes

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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Ok, I hear you Dennis. But that was a summary from Wikipedia, and the person who wrote the entry is clearly hostile to Icke. I'm not here to defend everything the man has said, but his views have evolved over the years and I just don't think it's fair to discredit someone in a few paragraphs.

    It would be quite easy to make almost any belief system sound absurd by summarizing them in a mocking tone. This includes all religions as well as schools of psychology and so forth.

    To me, "deeper" just means that if you have listened to a lot of what Icke has said, most of it is about self-empowerment and the rest is really tangential.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Internet rule #1

    Don't believe ANYTHING you read on Wikipedia.
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryC
    Ok, I'm not an affiliate for David Icke so I don't have much more to say except that I try to remain open to all points of view, no matter how outrageous they might sound.

    HD, I'm actually surprised that he is that well known. I always thought of him as a fringe character who few people have heard of outside of conspiracy circles. I guess he's better known in the UK.

    Ibombs, I've seen that Alex Jones video. I have a similar open-but-skeptical view of him as I do of Icke. I always wondered, for example, how a high profile conspiracy theorist would manage to crash the gates of a super secret gathering.

    Terra, Some people do pronounce his name that way. But if we start to judge people by their names, that can could be bad for a lot of people, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post


      HD, I'm actually surprised that he is that well known. I always thought of him as a fringe character who few people have heard of outside of conspiracy circles. I guess he's better known in the UK.
      He was really well known in the UK due to his television presenting work in sport, albeit before he lost his marbles (seemingly overnight).

      Much as I'd like to chew the fat a bit more, I have to go . . there's some weird thing trying my door.



      Nuff said.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by LarryC View Post


      Terra, Some people do pronounce his name that way. But if we start to judge people by their names, that can could be bad for a lot of people, lol.
      Sorry Larry. I really don't judge people by their names, haha! I was just feeling a little facetious. :p

      Wait, that word may not apply here because it actually means: Treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant.

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    I think Jesse Ventura confronted David on his TV series.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    I'm not familiar with him at all. I do intend to dig a little deeper.
    But, my first impression of his site is it is very commercialized.
    My first impression is that it's just another information site design to get clicks on the banners.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, I don't think I have heard of this guy before, I will NOT believe wikipedia about something like this. In fact, I won't even believe anyone else about this. I want to hear ICKE support such theories or at least similar, before I would believe it.

    Of course, if I listened to EVERY one on such things, I wouldn't even have time to eat, so I will reserve judgement here. STILL, does anyone REALLY care if they are alien shape-shifting aliens set on destroying the human race or "humans" that are set on destroying the human race?

    Though I do NOT believe they are shapeshifting aliens, if they WERE, it WOULD explain a LOT!

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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    If the "elite" ever believe the sheep are beginning to think for real in sufficient numbers and the internet has anything to do with it, they will pull the plug so fast your head will spin.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by LeeLee View Post

      If the "elite" ever believe the sheep are beginning to think for real in sufficient numbers and the internet has anything to do with it, they will pull the plug so fast your head will spin.
      There ARE a few problems with that though! I could say, but I think I will save it as a surprise in case they actually do. I actually considered this. There IS an existing method that can be used if the power goes out, MS disables all windows variants, the phone system goes out, they cut all cables on the planet, and the worlds phone systems break down. OH YEAH. By its nature, the government couldn't shut it down, and it wouldn't use network solutions name servers, or godaddy.

      Short term though, how long do you think they can shut down the phone system?

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        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        By its nature, the government couldn't shut it down, and it wouldn't use network solutions name servers, or godaddy.

        Short term though, how long do you think they can shut down the phone system?

        Steve
        No idea how long the phones can be shut down. I do know some countries have been cutoff from outside information. A couple totalitarian countries don't a worldwide conspiracy make but they do show the possibilities.

        I don't think the government is our real enemy. They are merely minions in the greater plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author SilvaRizla
    Hello,

    For those interested TPV has now gone bust after going through somewhere in the region of £500,000 and landing TPV in debt. It seems it was sabotaged by its director Sean Adl-Tabatabai who told David Icke to stop interfering with his business.

    There is a timeline of events that happened at TPV posted here which includes responses by David Icke as well as people who worked there: TPV Timeline | SilvaRizla

    A brief synopsis is that stole the donated bitcoin and ran TPV into the ground whilst keeping the contributors purposefully in the dark and continued to take their money.

    There seems to be a clear case that the donations were also obtained by deception in my opinion.

    Sean Adl-Tabatabai has now also created TPV Inc, registered in the USA, so it looks like he's planning to do the same thing again over there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      He's a fantastic example of how things can be intepreted in relation to the principle of dualism.

      Those who fear, see the pyramid as a governmental "all seeing eye" with themselves in the lower levels as minions, whilst those who don't fear see it as a symbol of potential ascention for themselves to achieve "all seeing" awareness at its pinnacle.

      It's the classic "half empty / half full" philosophy choice but with a pyramid instead of a glass....

      If you think everything is against you and everyone is above you, that will surely be the case. Either perspective can be true.

      The "Prison without walls" is build by ones own mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    [quote=Greg124;8202925This project needs financing and on the 1st June when he announced this project he said that the TV station would go ahead if he cound raise 100,000 GBP (current exchange rate 1.54 USD = 1 GBP.)

    This target has been exceeded and currently stands at 218,000 GBP.

    ...
    ). The new target, which would enable the station to function really well is
    300,000 GBP and the deadline is set for the last day in June.[/QUOTE]

    Gee, I'll bet if he meets the $300K, he'll raise the "new target" to $400K.

    EDIT: Just read this
    A brief synopsis is that stole the donated bitcoin and ran TPV into the ground whilst keeping the contributors purposefully in the dark and continued to take their money.

    There seems to be a clear case that the donations were also obtained by deception in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Folks, this thread is over a year old. The "cause" has come and gone, with the start-up station going under. I guess the lizard people buried the station.
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