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What's your opinion on Hostgator and Fatcow? Which would be better
  • Profile picture of the author Nate Simms
    It doesn't really matter, as they are actually the same company.

    They are both holdings of EIG, which many people will say means you should run far, far away from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Ruth Paulson View Post

    Hi WF
    What's your opinion on Hostgator and Fatcow? Which would be betteer :confused:
    All I can tell you is that we have used Hostgator for several years, and am very happy with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author shazbat
      I've been with Hostgator for a good 5 years now, always found them very helpful, never had any issues with them at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
    Originally Posted by Ruth Paulson View Post

    Hi WF
    What's your opinion on Hostgator and Fatcow? Which would be betteer :confused:
    What are YOUR requirements? What's your budget? What types of sites are you looking to host?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Ruth Paulson View Post

    What's your opinion on Hostgator and Fatcow?
    I've used HostGator very happily and very successfully. I find their customer service particularly reliable, friendly and helpful and recommend them, even though they've been bought out by a bigger company. I have many sites there now in their 4th and 5th years of successful hosting.

    I used to hear very good things about FatCow around 4-5 years ago, but more recently have seen quite a lot of complaints. I've never used them, myself.

    I often think it's a shame, in threads like this, that people with vested interests post to try to attract customers, with their signature-files on show. It appears that at least one post's been deleted from the thread already, and probably there'll be more deletions as the thread progresses. It must be a nuisance to the moderators, too. Personally, I think that people who appear to promote their own businesses by criticising others do themselves more harm than good, in the long run, and that if they simply wanted to share their expertise and opinions, in threads like this, it wouldn't kill them to disable their signature-files for the occasional post. But there it is - that's just my perspective and not everyone agrees with me, anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I've used HostGator very happily and very successfully. I find their customer service particularly reliable, friendly and helpful and recommend them, even though they've been bought out by a bigger company. I have many sites there now in their 4th and 5th years of successful hosting.

      I used to hear very good things about FatCow around 4-5 years ago, but more recently have seen quite a lot of complaints. I've never used them, myself.

      I often think it's a shame, in threads like this, that people with vested interests post to try to attract customers, with their signature-files on show. It appears that at least one post's been deleted from the thread already, and probably there'll be more deletions as the thread progresses. It must be a nuisance to the moderators, too. Personally, I think that people who appear to promote their own businesses by criticising others do themselves more harm than good, in the long run, and that if they simply wanted to share their expertise and opinions, in threads like this, it wouldn't kill them to disable their signature-files for the occasional post. But there it is - that's just my perspective and not everyone agrees with me, anyway.
      Criticizing others how? By telling the truth and asking questions rather than the usual warrior forum spout off a random name because someone else said it? Also, FYI - I've recommend plenty of other companies here in the forum that are direct competitors.

      It must be a nuisance to the moderators, too.
      Selectively deleting posts & threads when there's valid points in them?

      they simply wanted to share their expertise and opinions, in threads like this, it wouldn't kill them to disable their signature-files for the occasional post.
      why?

      1. I've paid for a membership
      2. I pay to advertise on the site
      3. Not self promoting
      4. Provide PLENTY of helpful information in this industry
      5. Provide actual FACTS & not fantasy land stories just b/c that's what they want to hear

      So no, unless the specific forum has signatures disabled, I'm not manually disabling it. Sorry.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I've used HostGator very happily and very successfully. I find their customer service particularly reliable, friendly and helpful and recommend them, even though they've been bought out by a bigger company. I have many sites there now in their 4th and 5th years of successful hosting.

      I used to hear very good things about FatCow around 4-5 years ago, but more recently have seen quite a lot of complaints. I've never used them, myself.

      I often think it's a shame, in threads like this, that people with vested interests post to try to attract customers, with their signature-files on show. It appears that at least one post's been deleted from the thread already, and probably there'll be more deletions as the thread progresses. It must be a nuisance to the moderators, too. Personally, I think that people who appear to promote their own businesses by criticising others do themselves more harm than good, in the long run, and that if they simply wanted to share their expertise and opinions, in threads like this, it wouldn't kill them to disable their signature-files for the occasional post. But there it is - that's just my perspective and not everyone agrees with me, anyway.
      Lex (My Super Villain version of your name)

      You're being unfair. It's not like these guys are knocking Hostgator because they sell hosting themselves. If they did, it would be plainly posted in their signa.....oh....Never mind.

      By the way. Other people that write books on marketing are evil. They are crooks who go by aliases, and stolen identities...only my book on marketing (that is conveniently posted in my signature) is valuable, and gives the real stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        It's not like these guys are knocking Hostgator because they sell hosting themselves.
        They may be. They may not be. We can't tell, and - perhaps more relevantly - neither can the people who start off the threads asking for advice and opinions.

        My contention is simply that if their motivation for posting were to share their experience and opinion rather than to abuse the forum's hospitality by trawling for customers contrary to both the letter and the spirit of the rules, it wouldn't hurt them (and would take them only half a second) to uncheck the little box that says "show your signature". The fact that they don't, and won't even when invited to, speaks volumes. Nobody denies that such posts can contain perfectly valid perspectives and factual information, but they'd be no less valid and no less factual if unaccompanied by a signature-file promoting a service which directly competes with what they're criticizing. As others have rightly said, in the past, it would be interesting (not that it's going to happen) to see who would continue to post here, if signature-files didn't exist.

        Yes, I am whining about it and I apologize for that; but it's also true that respected, long-standing members are leaving the forum partly because they dislike the blatantly promotional posting here. I can't prove that that's why, but some have said that to me, and one of the reasons I belive it is that I sometimes feel like that, myself, too.

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Lex (My Super Villain version of your name)
        It's what my father calls me, anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author cellcom
          A lot depends on what exactly you are trying to do, and what your budget is.

          If you are a "power user" your needs are different than if you are just a casual user. If you are just starting out, and have a small budget, I would go with FatCow (or iPage) as their prices are substantially lower. They still offer you unlimited band with and domains, and all the other bells and whistles.

          Hostgator recently has "oversold" their shared hosting to the point that websites load very slowly and can negatively impact search engine ranking. Although I still use them, their value is less and less.

          Also, keep in mind that Hostgator does offer a promotion on "black friday", which is coming up where their hosting is discounted by like 50% or more.
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          • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I find their customer service particularly reliable, friendly and helpful and recommend them
            For every 1 persion that says this, there's probably a dozen complaints. You should see their forums, Twitter feeds, and Facebook page. It's a PR nightmare for them, I'm sure -- but it's deserved, and of their own doing. It's actually EIG's actions, which HG support has to put up with. HG still has many of their own support folks, but we'll see how long that lasts. That and the mascot are all that's left.

            In addition, the Utah datacenter is obviously being staffed by EIG folks, not HG ones, and odds are some tickets are getting that classic EIG "support" now.

            I have many sites there now in their 4th and 5th years of successful hosting.
            That's nice, but anything before Q3 2012 doesn't matter much, and anything after Q3 2013 means nothing. The earlier host was another company, in another datacenter. The old reputation no longer applies, and died with the old HG that's now gone.

            I used to hear very good things about FatCow around 4-5 years ago, but more recently have seen quite a lot of complaints. I've never used them, myself.
            Never. Not since EIG switched them to vDeck almost 10 years ago. It was a Tucows company that was sold years ago.

            To be honest, Tucows was terrible too, another registrar offering hosting. No better than Yahoo or Godaddy. So it never had a good reputation, even pre-EIG. (Noting that Namecheap is the one exception to this rule, and that took about 2+ years of testing before I'd say that. I put them under a microscope.)

            if they simply wanted to share their expertise and opinions, in threads like this, it wouldn't kill them to disable their signature-files
            Why? These are just short posts. I wrote several pages on this topic, and if somebody wants to read my long versions, they can. I'm sure as heck not writing it over again and again. Once was enough, thanks. Same goes for lots of other hosting-related topics. (I even have more material to cover regarding EIG, but haven't had the time yet.)

            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            It's not like these guys are knocking Hostgator because they sell hosting themselves. If they did, it would be plainly posted in their signa...
            Yep. Not a host. Just a person that's been screwed by EIG three times since 2003, and enough is enough.

            I want see to it that they don't get to hide behind "brands" anymore, pretending to be 50+ individual companies when that's not the case. Because "switching" to another EIG brand is their game, and you don't even know you're playing it!

            Originally Posted by cellcom View Post

            If you are just starting out, and have a small budget, I would go with FatCow (or iPage) as their prices are substantially lower.
            Most hosts are inexpensive, under $5 per month. I'd much rather suggest a good host like Stablehost, Hawkhost, etc. Those are better hosts, and the servers are not overloaded.

            My lunch cost $5, homemade, and that's just one day. A month of hosting is cheap!

            They still offer you unlimited band with and domains, and all the other bells and whistles.
            "Bells and whistles" = cPanel features (including vDeck clone versions). All hosts have them.

            These days, bandwidth is so generous that it might as well be unlimited. Furthermore, you can only use so much, depending on port speed. Bandwidth is only really important to big sites that don't fit on shared hosting anyway (VPS, dedicated).

            Hostgator recently has "oversold" their shared hosting to the point that websites load very slowly and can negatively impact search engine ranking.
            This is rumored to be the "Bluehost method" of throttling, likely using custom/crippled cPanel versions and the not-better BetterLinux OS. All the Utah servers are doing it now. Thousands of customers likely share the server. Most hosts do hundreds.

            Also, keep in mind that Hostgator does offer a promotion on "black friday", which is coming up where their hosting is discounted by like 50% or more.
            Lots of hosts do. Check webhostingtalk.com (WHT) that day.
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            • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
              to the OP:
              Consider hosting with a company other than those 2 - why?
              Smaller hosting companies treat their customers much better and often have just as competitive pricing as the big guys. That has been my experience.

              Good luck with whatever hosting company you choose.
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  • Profile picture of the author micksss
    FatCow doesn't use cPanel... they have vDeck so I won't use them.
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  • Hi, I'm new here but I just bought two domains with Host Gator and they have been unbelievable in helping me build my blog membership sites and given me tons of technical information. I must have called them about 8 times in the last two weeks. They're great in my book.
    I don't know anything about Fatcow but compared to Yahoo small business they are far superior in service.
    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author andrealhendrick
      I believe they are the same company but Hostgator uses cpanel which is something I prefer over fat cows setup.
      Originally Posted by Ruth Paulson View Post

      Hi WF
      What's your opinion on Hostgator and Fatcow? Which would be better
      Same here, I did experiance a few bumps when they were switching ownership of the company but things seem to be back on tract with there customer service department.
      Originally Posted by shazbat View Post

      I've been with Hostgator for a good 5 years now, always found them very helpful, never had any issues with them at all.
      When its comes to picking up the phone and calling them, customer service is great. In reagrds to what some other have said in the decline in their customer service, I agree somewhat in terms of their support ticket system through email. A few years ago it used to take a day to get things resolved via email now its about 2-3 days. But like I said, if you just pick up the phone their customer service will help you then in there.
      Originally Posted by Online Income Partners View Post

      Hi, I'm new here but I just bought two domains with Host Gator and they have been unbelievable in helping me build my blog membership sites and given me tons of technical information. I must have called them about 8 times in the last two weeks. They're great in my book.
      I don't know anything about Fatcow but compared to Yahoo small business they are far superior in service.
      Hope that helps
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