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Since when did spamming via pm's become acceptable here? :confused:
  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    It's not BUT that doesn't stop people from doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Report the PM to the mods.

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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    I reported this yesterday and again today.
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    Same member or different one?
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    It was only one email, but quite clearly spamming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

    Since when did spamming via pm's become acceptable here? :confused:
    It's not acceptable, but PMs are handled a bit differently than public posts.

    For one thing, we can't delete individual PMs the way we can public posts. We can nuke them all, but that's a pretty extreme solution, unless we really believe someone is seriously abusing the function.

    Also, PMs to establish business contacts or approach someone about becoming an affiliate are not against the rules, per se. As long as they fit the recipient's history, they are allowed. That gets tricky, though, and is driven more by the number of complaints than anything else.

    Relevance and volume is the key. For example, I get these all the time, despite there being nothing in my posting history to suggest that I'd be open to promoting a WSO as an affiliate. (I never have, as far as I can recall.) I just caution the sender to be a bit more careful of their targeting, and leave it at that.

    This is a business forum. We don't tell people not to try and do business. We just ask that they not become overall nuisances by blanketing large numbers of the members with messages that don't apply to them.

    The one you reported was clearly not well-targeted. The member was asked to stop, and he did. (He only sent 10 or so of those, by the way.)

    This is one of the trickier areas of moderating, by the way. At least when the person sending the PMs has been around for a while. New members don't get as much slack, obviously.


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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      It's not acceptable, but PMs are handled a bit differently than public posts.

      For one thing, we can't delete individual PMs the way we can public posts. We can nuke them all, but that's a pretty extreme solution, unless we really believe someone is seriously abusing the function.

      Also, PMs to establish business contacts or approach someone about becoming an affiliate are not against the rules, per se. As long as they fit the recipient's history, they are allowed. That gets tricky, though, and is driven more by the number of complaints than anything else.

      Relevance and volume is the key. For example, I get these all the time, despite there being nothing in my posting history to suggest that I'd be open to promoting a WSO as an affiliate. (I never have, as far as I can recall.) I just caution the sender to be a bit more careful of their targeting, and leave it at that.

      This is a business forum. We don't tell people not to try and do business. We just ask that they not become overall nuisances by blanketing large numbers of the members with messages that don't apply to them.

      The one you reported was clearly not well-targeted. The member was asked to stop, and he did. (He only sent 10 or so of those, by the way.)

      This is one of the trickier areas of moderating, by the way. At least when the person sending the PMs has been around for a while. New members don't get as much slack, obviously.


      Paul
      Thanks, Paul for the detailed explanation. I've never had any contact with this member and s/he is a newer member, so figured they just hadn't read the rules.

      I reported an incident some time ago and IIRC, the sender received a vacation. Maybe it was for a different issue, I don't know.

      As for mod's deleting Pm's, I certainly wouldn't expect that. I still remember how to delete my messages:p
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Jody,
        I reported an incident some time ago and IIRC, the sender received a vacation. Maybe it was for a different issue, I don't know.
        Very general guidelines:

        A straight up sales pitch will almost always get a ban of some duration. The main exception is when someone asks about a specific solution publicly, makes it clear they're looking to buy, and the PM is very precisely appropriate to the request but would be seen as an ad in a public thread.

        Well-targeted affiliate recruitment will usually not generate many (if any) complaints. If it does, the sender gets a note to be more careful about who they send to. That's usually all that's needed.

        Sloppy targeting of affiliate recruitment will tend to generate more complaints, and a "Please stop" note gets sent. If they don't stop, or at least improve their targeting to the point where they don't generate complaints, they get a vacation, usually of significant length.

        Excessively rude or vulgar PMs will get a "stop now" note or an immediate ban, depending on the severity and the history.

        We don't get involved in minor personal arguments unless someone asks another member to stop PM'ing them and the sender doesn't stop.


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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          Is there a way to block specific members from PM'ing me? I have a couple of people on my Ignore List. I also do not want them PM'ing me should they get the urge.

          (No, not you Terra. You can PM me anytime. :rolleyes

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

            Is there a way to block specific members from PM'ing me? I have a couple of people on my Ignore List. I also do not want them PM'ing me should they get the urge.

            (No, not you Terra. You can PM me anytime. :rolleyes

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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Joe,

    If the ignore list doesn't stop them, I don't know how else you would. If you ask them not to PM you, though, we'll step in if they keep up contact.


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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Paul,

      I appreciate the response.

      I'm not having any problem. I have received no emails from the ignore list members. I was just trying to be proactive.

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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    Paul,

    This had nothing to do with affiliate recruitment. It was basically a pre-sell for an upcoming WSO after of which, if I sign up now, I will have the opportunity to purchase an "online ready businesses" before it goes up for auction.

    I immediately see sales pitch and list building tactics being used. Heck, the subject/title was "Business Opportunity!". Nothing at all to do with affiliate recruitment.

    Does this explain accurately, why I'm confused?

    Jody
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Jody,
      Does this explain accurately, why I'm confused?
      Yep. I (mis?)read it as an affiliate pitch, or he'd have gotten one of our highly-coveted free vacation certificates.

      Apologies if I dropped the ball on that one.


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      • Profile picture of the author waterotter
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Jody,Yep. I (mis?)read it as an affiliate pitch, or he'd have gotten one of our highly-coveted free vacation certificates.

        Apologies if I dropped the ball on that one.


        Paul
        Paul, no apologies needed. Just happy to know my confusion was legit. I don't envy your mod position here, but I sure do appreciate your detailed responses.

        Thanks!
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    Its not but people does it....and they get banned
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