Losing 5 pounds a week

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We were discussing this the other day--is it really possible to lose 5 pounds a week?

If you lose 2 pounds a week, that is a calorie deficit of 7000 calories/week or 1000 calories/day. I can see that.

If you lose 5 pounds a week, you have a calorie deficit of 17,500 calories/wk or 2500 calories/day.

Seems way too high to me. You would have to work out many hours a day every day to hit that number, yet your body would need recovery days.

Does not seem possible. I realize this is a thumbnail sketch, but what's wrong with this picture?
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

    what's wrong with this picture?
    The assumption it makes about the correlation between calories and weight-loss, I think.

    I think the only people who can lose 5 pounds per week are the really grossly obese, and even they only in the very earliest stages of a weight-loss program. For anyone else, and certainly over the long-term, something between 1 and 2 pounds per week is far more realistic, reasonable and achievable, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    How are you calculating the calorie deficit? Are you taking calories burned into account? Calorie intake is only half the equation.
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  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

    We were discussing this the other day--is it really possible to lose 5 pounds a week?

    If you lose 2 pounds a week, that is a calorie deficit of 7000 calories a day or 1000 calories a day. I can see that.

    If you lose 5 pounds a week, you have a calorie deficit of 17,500 calories or 2500 calories a day.

    Seems way too high to me. You would have to work out many hours a day every day to hit that number, yet your body would need recovery days.

    Does not seem possible. I realize this is a thumbnail sketch, but what's wrong with this picture?
    I'm assuming you mean 7000 calories per week and 1000 calories per day deficit.

    Down to the very basics, at the end of the day, calorie intake vs calories burned determines weight loss or gain.

    Terra
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    • Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

      I'm assuming you mean 7000 calories per week and 1000 calories per day deficit.

      Down to the very basics, at the end of the day, calorie intake vs calories burned determines weight loss or gain.

      Terra
      oops. fixed it, thanks.

      Yes, calorie intake vs calories burned. Let's say an average male weighs 200 pounds and needs 2000-2500 calories a day as a baseline to stay at the same weight (BMR). Even if he ate enough to cover extra calories burned through exercise, how would he possibly lose 2500 calories a day to lose 5 pounds a week? Doesn't seem mathematically possible.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
        Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

        oops. fixed it, thanks.

        Yes, calorie intake vs calories burned. Let's say an average male weighs 200 pounds and needs 2000-2500 calories a day as a baseline to stay at the same weight (BMR). Even if he ate enough to cover extra calories burned through exercise, how would he possibly lose 2500 calories a day to lose 5 pounds a week? Doesn't seem mathematically possible.
        I see your point. I don't have the scientific explanation, but I can tell you that if you continue eating throughout the day (in small calorie increments, obviously) that helps improve the metabolism.

        Also, there does seem to be a functionally significant acceleration once you dip below 1100 or so calories per day.

        The type of calories you eat is also important - proteins will be more effective than sugars, generally speaking.

        All of this adds up. That is my experience anyway. I am not a doctor, so you can take it for what it is worth.
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        • Exercise will also play a significant role in achieving this level of weight loss. For example, your 200 pound man would burn approximately 900 calories running for an hour.
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          • Profile picture of the author dandamang
            Hey - didn't expect to see this thread on the forum! I'm a physician and weight loss expert. This is not medical advice, but the answer is yes, you can lose 5 pounds a week. I coach and teach people to lose weight from around the world, and I've seen 5 pounds lost per week pretty often. It's not advised, but it is certainly possible.

            The problem in understanding how it's done, is with the math. There are a number of variables that it doesn't include, some of which were mentioned already but here are just a couple.

            Metabolism / BMR is a huge one - go from sitting in front of the computer the entire day, to adding in 5 hours of exercise per week, and your metabolism bumps up even when you're not exercising.

            The types of calories you eat absolutely matter. Ask athletes.

            How far someone is above their body's weight "set point" matters as well.

            Water weight - excess fluid from high salt intake and immobility.

            Jack - you hit the nail on the head. You have to do something that is sustainable. Otherwise who cares that you're losing 5 pounds a week? If you can't maintain that - the weight will be back. More importantly though, you have to address the underlying reasons why you were overweight in the first place. What's neat is that once you understand the science of habit formation (why do you automatically brush your teeth every day without thinking about?), you can make weight loss nearly automatic.

            I'm obviously passionate about this stuff, and I hope it helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    Ten months ago, I was 112 pounds heavier than I am now.

    The first 50 came off in the first three months (about 4.5/week). I did it by eating 800-900 calories a day of high protein/low calorie foods. No exercise to speak of. My results were above-average.

    I agree with Alexa that this approach is not sustainable over a long period of time. But it is certainly possible, and effective.

    (BTW, this should not be done without medical supervision.)

    Having said all of that, there isn't much point to putting yourself through a regimen like this if you aren't addressing the reasons you became so overweight in the first place.

    To keep weight like that off requires discipline, motivation and a significant amount of reeducation. It is not easy, but it does not have to be as hard as people make it out to be either.

    Yes, I am writing a book about my experience...
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      any english bookmaker would be happy to help
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
        Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

        any english bookmaker would be happy to help

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      • Profile picture of the author Wolster
        Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

        any english bookmaker would be happy to help
        Yea to that.

        I've lost more than 5 pounds in under 60 seconds, mind you it was a fast run 5 furlong race,
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by Wolster View Post

          Yea to that.

          I've lost more than 5 pounds in under 60 seconds, mind you it was a fast run 5 furlong race,
          I lost 5 pounds in weight in under 60 seconds.

          It was the £500 on the losing horse that caused it though.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I recall cases that made the news - at least locally - and it seems to me that continuing to lose that much weight for a sustained period of time is medically dangerous. It took a long time to put it on, so it's going to take a long time to safely lose the weight.

    (Actually, I thought this thread might have something to do with the next dieting disaster.
    I heard a radio ad tonight for a liquid product that swells up when digested, and makes it so you don't want to eat, or can't eat, for 5 or 6 hours. Bleah.)
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  • Profile picture of the author AlistarWaugh
    Oh my god ! Losing 5 ponds in a week how it became possible? Please share some tips to loss weight.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Also depends on ratio of that 5 lbs to your weight.

      For a 150 lbs person, 5 lbs a week is a lot - for someone weighing 300 to start with, 5 lbs is not that much.
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  • Profile picture of the author raniya
    well i lose 6 kg weight in 25 days
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I once lost 210 lbs of extremely worrysome fat in one day! - I've felt great ever since and it's never come back! Of course, I attribute that more to well honed martial arts training than anything.

    Diets are jokes. What people need is a healthy lifestyle. Period. You want to look like a Diva - you gotta live like one, fine food (by that I mean organic), walk barefoot outside to ground your electromagnetism -- not just exercise but physically active in ways you love - roller blades, bikes, hiking, dancing. Serious dude - when was the last time you just cranked up a favorite song and got your ass out of the chair and danced to it? Sleep deep, love hard, work it out, and live joyfully.

    Can't count the days it will take you to rid yourself of the fat you don't want but by the time you get there, you'll be toned, smiling, excited about life, and exciting to be around. If you learn to live full, you won't worry so darned much about "how fast". Being thin isn't a freakin' diet. It's a way of life.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
      This is the loveliest, most eloquent enunciation I have seen on the topic in ages. While I think there is merit to a more aggressive approach at the start for those who are very heavy, the sentiments here are dead-on, the advice is wonderful. If everyone lived like this, the world would be a much happier place.

      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Diets are jokes. What people need is a healthy lifestyle. Period. You want to look like a Diva - you gotta live like one, fine food (by that I mean organic), walk barefoot outside to ground your electromagnetism -- not just exercise but physically active in ways you love - roller blades, bikes, hiking, dancing. Serious dude - when was the last time you just cranked up a favorite song and got your ass out of the chair and danced to it? Sleep deep, love hard, work it out, and live joyfully.

      Can't count the days it will take you to rid yourself of the fat you don't want but by the time you get there, you'll be toned, smiling, excited about life, and exciting to be around. If you learn to live full, you won't worry so darned much about "how fast". Being thin isn't a freakin' diet. It's a way of life.
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      • Profile picture of the author sonixkid3000
        I lost nearly 60 pounds in about 8 months. I created a calorie deficit of 1,000 calories per day. 1,000*7=7,000 calorie deficit. 2 pounds per week.

        I also did one hour of cardio everyday, and lifted weights for another hour. In the beginning I was taking weight loss supplements at the start and I lost 9.5 pounds that first week. Shortly thereafter I was losing 3-5 pounds a week. As I got closer to my goal and had less and less weight to lose and it was hard to achieve even 2 pounds per week.

        Achievable, yes. Sustainable, no.
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      organic), walk barefoot outside to ground your electromagnetism
      I heard that dancing within 100 meters of high tension electric wires also worked to ground your electromagnetism
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      • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
        I once lost 10-12 pounds in two weeks, but it was because I was too ill to eat much of anything. Once I started eating again, it took a long time for those pounds to come back. Now I wish they were gone again.

        Everyone's metabolism and body is different and there really isn't one size fits all. I don't do much junk food or fast food, but now that it's cold weather, pasta and other carbs are calling me by name. Soup needs rice, or potatoes in it. I won't cut the carbs out, but will eat more vegetables to stave off the total carb load. Now if I could only figure out how to cut out sugar in coffee and tea, that would be very helpful. We don't drink a lot of soda either at home or when we go out, but when we do, it's never diet.
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        • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
          I've lost about 10 pounds in 1 day. I did it by doing an assault course, and yes it is a real loss - I was weighing myself very carefully at the time daily.

          Of course, you can't do that every day.p, or at least I couldn't. I guess that i could do 1 weekly if I went insane, but I don't thnk the weigh lost at that rate would be sustainable, rather performance would decline, or you'd have to eat more and/or drop dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Maria williams
    I think it's not possible but you can lose as much as 3 lbs a week, you can only lose 5 lbs if you are dehydrated, suffering from diarrhea or severe vomiting due to sickness. 2 lbs a week is a safe range, being patient is all it takes and continuous workout here is a sample of workouts you can do at home that can help you lose weight.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    I just came across this article that discusses different ways to boost metabolism. I cannot vouch for the methods and I am certainly not a doctor, but maybe you will find it useful.

    http://caloriecount.about.com/blog/p...bolism-b554395
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    Most people have 5 - 10 pounds of pure bloat.

    You can't just focus on BMR and caloric intake. It's an archaic way of viewing weight loss.

    You have to deal with inflammation.

    If you can decrease the inflammation in your gut, you can lose your bloat in one or two days.

    Then you need to access the body's fat reserves. And again, focusing on BMR is the last thing you should do.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    You can lose that much through a caloric deficit but it won't do anything for your overall health, and keeping it off will be a struggle unless you maintain a near-starvation diet. I know this because I've gone that route and I know how difficult it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author YHmuWong
    So the ads everywhere is wrong.I did lose 1-2 pounds in a week.I was obese.Thanks WF.com, I guess it is impossible to lose it without breaking a bone.(Or some special training)
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  • Profile picture of the author katrim
    There's a difference between weight loss and fat loss.
    Depending on your body, you can still lose 5 pound of fat a week if you're coming from +250 or so, but 5 pounds a week weight loss is pretty common and not something out of the extraordinary.
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