This is truly and utterly disgusting.

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If I ever see anything like this, i would have to step in even if I was outnumbered.

Piece of shit teens
  • Profile picture of the author Riggs
    Another reason I'm a misanthropist.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Frankly, I HATE it when people don't respect my space. At least they would have to work harder with me to do that. I'm with you. Those idiots are SCUM and don't deserve to even see what a person looks like in jail. And they call this a GAME!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    1. This is not "new". Just trendy again.
    2. This is hardly the worst things teens are doing for "fun".
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      1. This is not "new". Just trendy again.
      2. This is hardly the worst things teens are doing for "fun".
      It isn't NEW, but probably more are doing it. It is debatable what the WORST is.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Seriously, nobody remembers this from a few years ago?
    AND a few years before that?

    My point is not to condone the behavior in any way whatsoever.
    I'm just bitching about the poor excuse for journalism.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Somebody should play "Knockout" with them.

    A perfect argument for re-instating the Draft.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Teens are too big and physically developed to be allowed to be dangerous. It's time to put the fear of God (so to speak) into them. It's time for adults to go after kids they see doing this, beat the snot out of them, then have the local cop haul them to the slammer. Enough is just enough. Why are we supposed to risk our lives just because kids think that being monors gives them a free ride to be a danger to society? If they are old enough to be destructively dangerous, they are old enough to STOP in any way available, even if it's permanent.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Teens are too big and physically developed to be allowed to be dangerous. It's time to put the fear of God (so to speak) into them. It's time for adults to go after kids they see doing this, beat the snot out of them, then have the local cop haul them to the slammer. Enough is just enough. Why are we supposed to risk our lives just because kids think that being monors gives them a free ride to be a danger to society? If they are old enough to be destructively dangerous, they are old enough to STOP in any way available, even if it's permanent.
      Basically it comes down to 2 points.

      Parents are not allowed to discipline their children.

      Parents defend their children when the school punishes them for misbehaving.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        Basically it comes down to 2 points.

        Parents are not allowed to discipline their children.

        Parents defend their children when the school punishes them for misbehaving.
        Maybe it's time for parents to quit whinning and go after their right to be parents again, then. Either that or watch their little brat get a bullet between the eyes when they get big enough to be everyone's problem.

        My dad was the Superintendent in my school system. You'd have loved to hear how he responded to parents that would call and whimper about their kid being disciplined in school.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        Basically it comes down to 2 points.

        Parents are not allowed to discipline their children.

        Parents defend their children when the school punishes them for misbehaving.
        This as well.

        This is exactly the reason the UK's gone to rat s*** as well.

        Well said and and if you want a career in politics and fancy running this place, you've got my vote.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    It is hard to defend oneself against totally random attacks such as those. It could happen any time, anywhere. Is this a nationwide phenomenon in the United States or just isolated to a few cities?

    In Vancouver, we've had "swarmings" that are unprovoked attacks by groups of youths against individuals, knocking them to the ground and repeatedly kicking them in the head.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      It is hard to defend oneself against totally random attacks such as those. It could happen any time, anywhere. Is this a nationwide phenomenon in the United States or just isolated to a few cities?

      In Vancouver, we've had "swarmings" that are unprovoked attacks by groups of youths against individuals, knocking them to the ground and repeatedly kicking them in the head.
      Exactly why Americans value their concealed carry rights.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        America only?

        Well, this brings into question the journalism.

        At 1.55 of the video a man knocks out a woman by a white van.

        I saw that on the news a year ago and it was here, in London and that game wasn't even mentioned.

        Shocking Video: Man Sucker Punches London Girl to the Ground With Vicious Blow to the Head | Video | TheBlaze.com

        Doesn't make it better but I believe the man in question was a crack head.

        That article also says it's a game that targets the homeless, though I didn't seem to see any homeless people being attacked.

        It's sad to see that the only thing they can do is that, because they're bored. If that's all they can think to do when they're bored there's not a lot of use for them and it's a sad fact that courage isn't something they want to even think about testing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hogre
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Exactly why Americans value their concealed carry rights.
        Boy am I gonna get flamed for this...but here goes,anyway.

        Did you see how the lights went out on these victims?They fell like tree trunks.No way your concealed weapon would help you in this situation.

        Even if you had the ability to pull out a gun, seconds after you got hit,and managed to shoot one of these idiots...you'd end up locked up for a looong time.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Hogre View Post

          Boy am I gonna get flamed for this...but here goes,anyway.

          Did you see how the lights went out on these victims?They fell like tree trunks.No way your concealed weapon would help you in this situation.

          Even if you had the ability to pull out a gun, seconds after you got hit,and managed to shoot one of these idiots...you'd end up locked up for a looong time.
          A LOT of these cases aren't simply a guy coming from nowhere and doing this. It is like the proverbial frog. BESIDES, who says THIS is the only reason why you could use a gun? And a lot of the appeal of a gun is NOT using it, but the fear that you MIGHT! Do you think the average 12th grader would attempt to knockout arnold swartzenegger in his prime? NO WAY!

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Hate for this to turn into "that" thread, but:

    Hogre does make an important point, though. The biggest weapon of thugs
    is not their size, strength, or even their guns-- but their ability to surprise their
    victims. When a person is surprised by what seems (to them) to be sudden
    violence, it is very difficult to recover and respond in any effective way.

    Hogre, my counterpoint to you would be that a person who has been
    surprised by a violent attacker already has such a low chance to protect
    themselves and their loved ones that the firearm my in fact be the only
    tool that they can use to save themselves.


    All of that being said, I don't believe this is a "firearm" issue so much
    as an "awareness" issue. People wonder around, barely alert to their
    five senses, living in their memories and their imaginations. I'm not
    saying that a person should be paranoid-- that's just as bad if not worse--
    but the utter lack of awareness is a problem. My point is that these
    punk cowards are not targeting people who look like they are going
    to fight back, are they? They are the weakest kind of turds,
    willing to dish it out but unable to take it in return. People who
    look like tough targets are not going to be their victims.

    And, as previously suggested, those little shits committing these crimes
    should be dealt with in the most severe manner allowed by law, preferably
    by removing them from the public they are a danger to for a good
    amount of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Those youths are disgusting sub-humans.

    Awareness is key.

    I would not walk by a group of youths, or a even a single person, as relaxed as the teacher was.

    Relaxed, walking slowly, being in a day dream, talking or texting on your smart phone
    as you are walking are all signs of an easy victim. Punks like that read that body language.

    Being aware, walking quickly, crossing the street, appearing confident could help
    avoid being attacked. Just don't look like an easy target.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Mike is absolutely correct regarding this being an awareness issue. Everyone should keep their awareness level on high when in public. You don't have to be a neurotic xenophobe to be aware. The people these punks attack are usually paying so little attention to their surroundings that they don't even see their attackers coming. A simple glance in their direction might have been enough to void the conflict.

    You might call me paranoid, but I constantly test my periphery in public, especially in parking garages, going around blind corners and through doorways. I use my whole field of vision to see what's going on around me and I've trained myself so that it's automatic. If somebody does get the drop on me, I should atleast catch enough of the approach to steel myself for the coming blow.

    I recommend everybody make a more concerterd effort to be more aware in public. Try it. You'll be amazed at how much you normally miss.

    I also recommend if you're carrying things, to carry them in your nondominant hand. You don't want to get caught momentarily having to defend yourself with your weak side.

    </sounding like a paranoid freak>

    Edit: Dammit, biz. You stole my thunder as I was writing.
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    Hate it when that happens, Mr. Riffle. Didn't completely steal your thunder as you added points to the discussion.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Hate it when that happens, Mr. Riffle. Didn't completely steal your thunder as you added points to the discussion.

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      Don't start that "Mr.Riffle" sh!t, biz. I start looking around for my dad when I hear that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian John
        someone posted this in the comments section below the vid...

        "And when one of these kids get shot to death by someone they tried to "knock out" suddenly they're just poor defenseless kids trying to have some fun"

        that^ about sums it up
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
          Originally Posted by Brian John View Post

          someone posted this in the comments section below the vid...

          "And when one of these kids get shot to death by someone they tried to "knock out" suddenly they're just poor defenseless kids trying to have some fun"

          that^ about sums it up
          I don't think that "sums it up"? If someone were to shoot one of these punks
          in self-defense, people making that ridiculous claim shouldn't be taken
          seriously. The vast majority of people would be very sad that it came to that,
          but they aren't going to blame the victim of the attack.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

            The vast majority of people would be very sad that it came to that,
            but they aren't going to blame the victim of the attack.
            Must.... Hold.... Tongue....
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          • Profile picture of the author Brian John
            Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

            I don't think that "sums it up"? If someone were to shoot one of these punks
            in self-defense, people making that ridiculous claim shouldn't be taken
            seriously. The vast majority of people would be very sad that it came to that,
            but they aren't going to blame the victim of the attack.
            think u missed my point, was meant to be a bit satirical. one would like to think that the victim wouldn't be blamed, but as we see time and time again once there's a strong self-defense retaliation (particularly when there's a firearm involved), and after the dust clears, the anti-gun rhetoric quickly builds with the sentiment that the tragedy could have been avoided had there only been no gun involved. what gets forgotten is that yes, the perpetrator would still be alive, but the one assaulted would have taken the full and complete brunt of the attack with no effective means to defend themselves. again, it’s easy for people to feel as u explained when watching a vid such as that, but when there’s a body of a 17 yr old lying on the ground, many of those same people all of a sudden lose much of their conviction. it’s human nature, just how it is, many (if not most) people lack the fortitude to stand fast to their beliefs (or to what they say they believe).

            this convo reminds me of something but can’t quite recall…something about skittles and iced tea.
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            • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
              just think

              in three years time, these young people will be able to go and buy guns legitimately
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              • Profile picture of the author garyv
                Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

                just think

                in three years time, these young people will be able to go and buy guns legitimately
                No need for legitimacy when you don't obey laws to begin with right...
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
              Originally Posted by Brian John View Post

              think u missed my point, was meant to be a bit satirical...
              No I understood it. And of course nobody wants dead 17 year olds.
              But my counterpoint is that the vast majority of people would not
              actually agree with that loud minority... It doesn't "sum up" the
              situation in any case, because it hasn't happened anyway.

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              Originally Posted by Brian John View Post

              this convo reminds me of something but can't quite recall...something about skittles and iced tea.
              Not that I want to revive that particular conversation, but there
              is a distinct difference here. In that one, the kid was on his way
              home and someone who crossed that line from awareness into
              paranoia created a situation in which a child was killed.

              In the situation described by the OP, these kids are the instigators
              that are actively looking for trouble. This situation actually has
              far more in common with those little shits in Oklahoma that shot
              and killed a stranger who was out for a jog "because we were bored".

              2 teens charged with first-degree murder in ballplayer's killing in Oklahoma - U.S. News
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              • Profile picture of the author Brian John
                Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

                Not that I want to revive that particular conversation, but thereis a distinct difference here. In that one, the kid was on his wayhome and someone who crossed that line from awareness into paranoia created a situation in which a child was killed.
                i see it a little differently, but i don't want to revive it either so we'll let that go
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    They should get a court ordered single punch from Tyson.

    GAME OVER
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      They should get a court ordered single punch from Tyson.

      GAME OVER
      If they were dogs, they'd be put down for aggressive behavior, but dogs that are put down are usually less deserving of it than these hoodlums.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I worked at a sexual assault crisis center for a few years. One of the biggest rules of being safe in public is to not let people get too close to you. If I'm in a parking lot and someone is walking behind me, I pay rabid attention to how close they are getting. I also have something in my hand that will make a deep impression on them if they decide to get funny with me. You'll often see me with something a little lethal in my hand when walking in public. Thugs don't wait for you to dig your pepper spray, etc. out of your purse. If you walk through a crowd with a hand in your pocket, it should be holding a crime deterrent in it. Once someone gets within arms reach - they are dangerous. Period. It can be a bit tough keeping away from people in a crowd, but if you can't keep away - at least keep an eye out for movement. A little martial arts can go a long way in teaching your body to block an unexpected arm coming in your direction, too. You swing an arm at me and all you will hit is my arm deflecting the punch.
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    We really life in a disgusting world...
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    I'd kill them all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      They should get a court ordered single punch from Tyson.

      GAME OVER
      Yes and yes again. I'd pay to watch that too.

      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      If they were dogs, they'd be put down for aggressive behavior, but dogs that are put down are usually less deserving of it than these hoodlums.
      This ^

      Amazes me sometimes they call a dog a man's best friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Here's an interview with one of the "Knockout" game victims, teacher James James Addlesburger, who was randomly knocked out cold by a kid and fell face first into a concrete curb.
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