OMG! I'm A Liberal And Didn't Know It!

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    "Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded conservative; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are accepting of religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a traditionalist.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realist with a few strong convictions."

    Fairly accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    "Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist."

    Hey, jade is a valuable stone!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      Hey, jade is a valuable stone!
      I see what you did there.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Some of the questions were ridiculous so I answered in the neutral for many.
    Still, the canned profile is pretty accurate. :p


    Progressivism 52.5
    Socialism 25
    Tenderness 53.125

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a protective parent. It appears that you are tolerant towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate radical with an established worldview.

    This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.
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  • Profile picture of the author meepo
    I Disagreed Strongly with every question:

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are tolerant towards religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible pragmatist with a firmly established worldview.

    This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.
    I Agreed Strongly with every question:

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are tolerant towards religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible pragmatist with a firmly established worldview.

    This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.
    WTF???

    tl;dr i broke the test
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Social Attitude Test

      Political Values

      Progressivism 65
      Socialism 0 :rolleyes:
      Tenderness 43.75

      Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a pragmatic attitude towards humanity in general.

      Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

      To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible radical with many strong convictions.

      This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.
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      I'm not sure that "
      Progressivism" used here is the type of progressivism that is defined by the media.

      I'm almost proud of my Socialism score.

      There seems to be
      a bit of political slant in this line of questioning.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    This test reminds me of a horoscope or psychic reading ... general enough to fit whomever is taking the test to a strong enough degree that most people will see something of themselves in the results. I can see something of myself in everyone's results anyway.

    For the record...

    Your test scores indicate that you are a tender-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a protective parent. It appears that you are accepting of religion, and have a compassionate and sympathetic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a traditionalist.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a kind-hearted pragmatist with few strong convictions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Progressivism 90
      Socialism 18.75
      Tenderness 50

      Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a pragmatic attitude towards humanity in general, and you hide a very muscular body for a man your age. Women want you, and men want to be like you.

      Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian, and definitely not gay.

      To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate realist with an established worldview, and 25% smarter than someone else in Ohio that took this test, named Dan Riffle.




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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I was waiting for this. ^^^^^^^^^
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      open-minded cultural centrist
      tolerant...generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general

      Attitudes toward economics appear laissez-faire capitalist - would be described as a libertarian

      A considerate realist with few strong convictions.



      Actually, it's probably pretty close.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Progressivism 82.5
    Socialism 18.75
    Tenderness 34.375

    Your test scores indicate that you are a tough-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are distrustful towards religion, and have a pragmatic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate pragmatist with many strong convictions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    What does the question mean - "Race is just skin deep"?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      What does the question - "Race is just skin deep"?
      I took it to mean race is nothing more than the color of our skin. We're all the same on the inside.

      Except Whitacre. He's mostly nougat on the inside. His organs are made up mainly of fruit roll ups and crayon parts he swallowed as a child (teen, adult, senior citizen...)
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      • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        I took it to mean race is nothing more than the color of our skin. We're all the same on the inside.

        Except Whitacre. He's mostly nougat on the inside. His organs are made up mainly of fruit roll ups and crayon parts he swallowed as a child (teen, adult, senior citizen...)
        But doesn't "Beauty is skin deep" mean someone is beautiful inside?

        And Claude does sound delicious inside.
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        • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          But doesn't "Beauty is skin deep" mean someone is beautiful inside?

          And Claude does sound delicious inside.
          Except for the crayon parts.


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          I'd like to see their definitions of their terminology:

          Political Values


          Progressivism 55
          Socialism 37.5
          Tenderness 65.625


          Your test scores indicate that you are a tender-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a protective parent. It appears that you are accepting of religion, and have a compassionate and sympathetic attitude towards humanity in general.

          Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

          To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible pragmatist with several strong convictions.

          This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          But doesn't "Beauty is skin deep" mean someone is beautiful inside?
          Not quite. It means that just because someone is beautiful on the outside (physically) doesn't mean they are beautiful on the inside (attitude).

          The race question was apparently designed to find out if a person is a racist.

          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          And Claude does sound delicious inside.
          Quoted to preserve those words for future torment and perhaps monetary gain.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          And Claude does sound delicious inside.
          If you're very lucky, as it's nearly Christmas, Claude might well let you have a taste.

          I'd avoid the crayons though, bloody awful flavour.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            Quoted to preserve those words for future torment and perhaps monetary gain.
            Umm... Context is everything?

            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            If you're very lucky, as it's nearly Christmas, Claude might well let you have a taste.

            I'd avoid the crayons though, bloody awful flavour.
            Dibs on the liver.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Political Values

    Progressivism 70
    Socialism 25
    Tenderness 43.75

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a kind-hearted pragmatist with several strong convictions.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    50% Libertarian
    50% Scary Nazi Beeotch.

    Are you really from earth? Get off the planet lady.

    Oh -- just kidding. (maybe).

    Progressivism 47.5 Socialism 18.75 Tenderness 18.75
    Your test scores indicate that you are a very tough-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a nihilist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a traditionalist.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible radical with several strong convictions.

    I guess I'm 15% undecipherable or something, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Progressivism 75
    Socialism 43.75
    Tenderness 46.875


    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible idealist with many strong convictions.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay - is anyone watching this thing's numbers? I was left no word about what 15% of me is. TL is a little over a person and a half. Check everyone's numbers. Is ANYONE 100%?

    Even for just an entertaining amusement like this, they sure have some bad math skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay - is anyone watching this thing's numbers? I was left no word about what 15% of me is. TL is a little over a person and a half. Check everyone's numbers. Is ANYONE 100%?

      Even for just an entertaining amusement like this, they sure have some bad math skills.
      All three of the scales go to 100% I presume.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

        All three of the scales go to 100% I presume.
        Okay - they are all the same 3 attributes. I didn't notice that one. Progressiveness and Socialism are really similar ideologies in the US right now-- so they completely left out conservative, unless that is what they consider "tender". To me "tender" is how I prefer a steak.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Okay - they are all the same 3 attributes. I didn't notice that one. Progressiveness and Socialism are really similar ideologies in the US right now-- so they completely left out conservative, unless that is what they consider "tender". To me "tender" is how I prefer a steak.
          Half the test was OBVIOUSLY heavily one way, and much of the rest showed a popular bias they have.

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        • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Okay - they are all the same 3 attributes. I didn't notice that one. Progressiveness and Socialism are really similar ideologies in the US right now-- so they completely left out conservative, unless that is what they consider "tender". To me "tender" is how I prefer a steak.
          I don't think those are political ideologies. I believe those mean...

          Progressiveness - How open your to new ideas. (0 - Very Conservative, 100 - Very Open).
          Socialism - How much government control you'd like. (0 - No control, 100 - Totalitarian state)
          Tenderness - How much you care about other people. (0 -... well, self-explanatory)

          Progressiveness and Socialism aren't the same thing. Progressives believe in capitalism, socialists don't. I don't mind debating a progressive. Socialists, on the other hand, are so damn condescending.

          The American media makes those two out to be the same. That's why a lot of socialists get passed off as liberals/progressives. An Indian immigrant socialist got elected to some city council in Seattle recently. It was big news here. She wants to nationalize Amazon.com. Good luck with that.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

        All three of the scales go to 100% I presume.
        Things aren't always so cut and dry. I could see a question as having a certain ranking that would weigh maybe 50% one way and not the other. So let's give them the benefit of a doubt there.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, a lot of questions were loaded or too general, so I played the center THERE. My results?

    Political Values

    Progressivism 30
    Socialism 18.75
    Tenderness 46.875

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded conservative; this is the political profile one might associate with a police officer. It appears that you are accepting of religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a paleoconservative.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible radical with few strong convictions.

    This concludes our analysis; we hope you found your results accurate, useful, and interesting.


    Unlike many other political tests found on the Internet which base themselves on untested (and usually ideologically motivated) ideas, this inventory is adapted from Hans Eysenck's own political inventory which was developed after extensive empirical investigations in the 20th Century.
    As for the few strong convictions? I have PLENTY! But they are more specific than this test allows. In short, a thinking person HERE is asked to overlook things, or just lie. So I put little value on the test, though its overall assessment of my base political bent is correct.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    About Eysenck:

    Hans Eysenck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Life[edit]

    Eysenck was born in Berlin, Germany. His mother was Silesian-born film star Helga Molander, and his father, Eduard Anton Eysenck, was a nightclub entertainer who was once voted "handsomest man on the Baltic coast".[2] (pp. 8–11). Eysenck was brought up by his maternal grandmother (his grandmother was a fervent Lutheran; after her death in a concentration camp, Eysenck found out that she "apparently" was from a Jewish family).[2][3] (p. 80). An initial move to England in the 1930s became permanent because of his opposition to the Nazi party. "My hatred of Hitler and the Nazis, and all they stood for, was so overwhelming that no argument could counter it."(p. 40)[2] Because of his German citizenship, he was initially unable to gain employment, and was almost interned during the war.[4] He received his PhD in 1940 from University College, London (UCL) working in the Department of Psychology under the supervision of Professor Sir Cyril Burt, with whom he had a tumultuous professional relationship throughout his working life.[2] (pp. 118–119).

    Eysenck was Professor of Psychology at the Institute of Psychiatry, King's College, London (a constituent college of the federal University of London), from 1955 to 1983. He was a major contributor to the modern scientific theory of personality and a brilliant teacher who helped found treatment for mental illnesses.[5][6] Eysenck also created and developed distinctive dimensional model of personality based on factor-analytic summaries, bravely attempting to anchor these summaries in biogenetic variation.[7] He was the founding editor of the journal Personality and Individual Differences, and authored about 80 books and more than 1600 journal articles.[8] His son Michael Eysenck is also a noted psychology professor. Hans Eysenck died of a brain tumour[9] in a London hospice in 1997.[10]


    The Psychology of Politics[edit]

    In this book, Eysenck suggests that political behavior may be analyzed in terms of two independent dimensions: the traditional left-right distinction, and how 'tenderminded' or 'toughminded' a person is. Eysenck suggests that the latter is a result of a person's introversion or extroversion respectively.

    Colleagues criticized the research that formed the basis of this book, on a number of grounds, including the following.
    Eysenck claims that his findings can be applied to the British middle class as a whole, but the people in his sample were far younger and better educated than the British middle class as a whole.
    Supporters of different parties were recruited in different ways: Communists were recruited through party branches, fascists in an unspecified manner, and supporters of other parties by giving copies of the questionnaire to his students and telling them to apply it to friends and acquaintances.
    Scores were obtained by applying the same weight to groups of different sizes. For example the responses of 250 middle-class supporters of the Liberal Party were given the same weight as those of 27 working-class Liberals.
    Scores were rounded without explanation, in directions that supported Eysenck's theories.[13]
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    "Your test scores indicate that you are a tough-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have an indifferent and uncompassionate attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realist with several strong convictions."

    That's pretty accurate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Young Financier View Post

      "Your test scores indicate that you are a tough-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have an indifferent and uncompassionate attitude towards humanity in general.

      Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

      To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realist with several strong convictions."

      That's pretty accurate.

      It makes it sound like you kick homeless people for fun.
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        It makes it sound like you kick homeless people for fun.
        Nah, I give money to homeless people all the time. However, I'm not the type to feel sorry for people who haven't accepted responsibility for their situation, be they homeless or whatever.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
          Originally Posted by Young Financier View Post

          Nah, I give money to homeless people all the time. However, I'm not the type to feel sorry for people who haven't accepted responsibility for their situation, be they homeless or whatever.
          Hey, Young, I wasn't saying you actually kick homeless people, just that the test made it sound that way. I'm actually a little surprised my results didn't sound more like yours.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Political Values

            Progressivism 100
            Socialism 93.75
            Tenderness 56.25

            Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a university professor. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

            Your attitudes towards economics appear communist, ( lol ) and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a humanist.

            To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible pragmatist with many strong convictions.

            Not sure how they get the communist part.
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            • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              Not sure how they get the communist part.
              You are 94 on Socialism. Any more and you'd be Karl Marx.
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              • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
                Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

                You are 94 on Socialism. Any more and you'd be Karl Marx.
                Are you kidding me? I think Jesse Jackson would only get an 88. :rolleyes:

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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

                You are 94 on Socialism. Any more and you'd be Karl Marx.
                Most analog clocks that are broken are right twice a day!

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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by Young Financier View Post

          Nah, I give money to homeless people all the time. However, I'm not the type to feel sorry for people who haven't accepted responsibility for their situation, be they homeless or whatever.
          Their are actually different classes of panhandlers (not one and the same with homeless people, of course). Try asking a panhandler who the best panhandler in the city is. Ask what are the most effective techniques in panhandling. I've asked such questions and have gotten very detailed responses.
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          • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            Their are actually different classes of panhandlers (not one and the same with homeless people, of course). Try asking a panhandler who the best panhandler in the city is. Ask what are the most effective techniques in panhandling. I've asked such questions and have gotten very detailed responses.
            petty scammers that are working hard to perfect their craft.

            I see.
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            • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              petty scammers that are also hard working.

              I see.
              Hard, humiliating "work" (of sorts) for little gain. Absurd. There are actually similar occupations that provide much more gain, eg sales.
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            • Profile picture of the author meepo
              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              petty scammers that are working hard to perfect their craft.

              I see.
              panhandler =/= petty scammer

              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              I'm starting to wonder if these types of tests say more about the person that writes the questions than the person that answers them.

              For example, when did Haidt first think about having sex with chickens? How often does he think about having sex with chickens. Has he ever had sex with a chicken?
              Wow... erm... ok... that's a very telling Freudian slip...
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              • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                Originally Posted by meepo View Post


                Wow... erm... ok... that's a very telling Freudian slip...
                What do you mean? Are you confused about the difference between humor and a true Freudian slip?
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            Their are actually different classes of panhandlers (not one and the same with homeless people, of course). Try asking a panhandler who the best panhandler in the city is. Ask what are the most effective techniques in panhandling. I've asked such questions and have gotten very detailed responses.
            I had a hooker sit next to me in Las Vegas, and I paid her to tell me about how they decided who to approach, how they knew I wasn't a cop, how they decided what to charge, what the danger signs were. At the end, I felt very sorry for her. She didn't have many good answers, and I think I freaked her out a little.

            Next time I'm in San Francisco or maybe San Diego, I'll pay a panhandler to tell me exactly what you posted. I'm serious. The "selling" fascinates me.
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              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              I had a hooker sit next to me in Las Vegas, and I paid her to tell me about how they decided who to approach, how they knew I wasn't a cop, how they decided what to charge, what the danger signs were. At the end, I felt very sorry for her. She didn't have many good answers, and I think I freaked her out a little.

              Next time I'm in San Francisco or maybe San Diego, I'll pay a panhandler to tell me exactly what you posted. I'm serious. The "selling" fascinates me.
              Years and years ago there was a bar in Tampa were the transients and other "less fortunate" drank. A friend and I would go there and buy drinks for anyone willing to tell their story. Many a night we walked out of there thinking the "less fortunate" were more fortunate then we where.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Your test scores indicate that you are a tender-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a protective parent. It appears that you are accepting of religion, and have a compassionate and sympathetic attitude towards humanity in general.

      Your attitudes towards economics appear capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

      To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate realist with few strong convictions, with the exception that Ohio State has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the national championship.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        :p
        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate realist with few strong convictions, with the exception that Ohio State has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the national championship.

        <singsong>Look who is suddenly a Florida State fan.</singsong> How 'bout them Gators? :p
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          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          :p


          <singsong>Look who is suddenly a Florida State fan.</singsong> How 'bout them Gators? :p
          Oh,Snap!

          Considerate Realist,Mon Frere. Good Luck against Mich St.

          And it pains me to say this, But Fla St is the best team in the nation, and will steamroll whoever they play.
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            Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

            Oh,Snap!

            Considerate Realist,Mon Frere. Good Luck against Mich St.

            And it pains me to say this, But Fla St is the best team in the nation, and will steamroll whoever they play.
            We'll discuss this elsewhere, but check out this article:
            Why do Seminoles get a free pass to BCS title game if Buckeyes do not? - CBSSports.com

            The Bucks are ten point dogs in the anticipated contest. The defense is suspect. However, I'm more confident going into this game (if it happens) than I was against Miami -- but that's not saying much.
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    Progressivism 55
    Socialism 18.75
    Tenderness 40.625

    Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded cultural centrist; this is the political profile one might associate with a jaded materialist. It appears that you are tolerant towards religion, and have a generally optimistic attitude towards humanity in general.

    Your attitudes towards economics appear laissez-faire capitalist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a libertarian.

    To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a considerate radical with several strong convictions.

    Not too far off...
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    I agree that this test is about as important as astrology or 'mind reading' where they say really obvious things like 'I am getting the message that you have a mother' - and 'I bet there is a man who has died'. The math is weird and they are just weird period.

    I absolutely disagree with every single thing they said but see that trying to stay in the middle (as I am in real life - a conservative liberal lol - or liberal conservative) - doesn't work for this test that says I am a parental liberal (GASP!) but nearly equally % wise socialist.

    I don't have a parental bone in my body - either by example or as being one -- unless someone is a plant, which is about the only thing I like to take care of.

    AND my attitudes are definitely colored by the state of affairs in real life where things we may approve of ARE NOT WORKING very well on any level from capitalism to religion.

    Bogus - file it in the round file.

    p.s. i tripped on them asking what country of origin your last name is - I bet that is why they think i am socialist as 'we' came from there 3 generations ago - (Italy) - naturally we have not learned a-anything here in a-over a hundred years-a.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      I made it through the first 21 questions before I had enough.
      Some of the stupidest questions I've seen.
      For example, "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."
      What kind of question is that?
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I made it through the first 21 questions before I had enough.
        Some of the stupidest questions I've seen.
        For example, "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."
        What kind of question is that?
        YEAH, one of the ones I voted indifferent on, because I had the SAME question!

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      • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I made it through the first 21 questions before I had enough.
        Some of the stupidest questions I've seen.
        For example, "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."
        What kind of question is that?
        Actually, that's a fine question.

        You should read the book The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt. The author claims that liberals operate with 3 moral foundations - Care, Fairness & Liberty while conservatives operate with 6 - the previous three along with Loyalty, Authority & Sanctity.

        So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          Actually, that's a fine question.

          You should read the book The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt. The author claims that liberals operate with 3 moral foundations - Care, Fairness & Liberty while conservatives operate with 6 - the previous three along with Loyalty, Authority & Sanctity.

          So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
          I see your point, but question whether it's a good question. If the question is worded in a way that it is subject to the test taker questioning the validity, usefulness, or meaning of it, how good can the question be? I gave a neutral answer to the question it seemed ambiguous to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            I see your point, but question whether it's a good question. If the question is worded in a way that it is subject to the test taker questioning the validity, usefulness, or meaning of it, how good can the question be? I gave a neutral answer to the question it seemed ambiguous to me.
            Yeah. My point exactly with 'Race is just skin deep'. I was just pointing out that the question isn't as stupid as it looks on the surface. It gets the job done.

            One of the questions Haidt used to have on his surveys was...
            "A person buys a chicken from the store, has sex with it and then cooks and it eats for dinner. Did he do anything wrong?"

            Better than that right?
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

              Yeah. My point exactly with 'Race is just skin deep'. I was just pointing out that the question isn't as stupid as it looks on the surface. It gets the job done.

              One of the questions Haidt used to have on his surveys was...
              "A person buys a chicken from the store, has sex with it and then cooks and it eats for dinner. Did he do anything wrong?"

              Better than that right?
              Actually that question makes more sense and is easier to answer on the surface
              Yes he did something wrong, he didn't kill it, pluck it, or gut it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

              Yeah. My point exactly with 'Race is just skin deep'. I was just pointing out that the question isn't as stupid as it looks on the surface. It gets the job done.

              One of the questions Haidt used to have on his surveys was...
              "A person buys a chicken from the store, has sex with it and then cooks and it eats for dinner. Did he do anything wrong?"

              Better than that right?
              I'm starting to wonder if these types of tests say more about the person that writes the questions than the person that answers them.

              For example, when did Haidt first think about having sex with chickens? How often does he think about having sex with chickens. Has he ever had sex with a chicken?
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          The author claims that liberals operate with 3 moral foundations - Care, Fairness & Liberty
          Liberals today operate with an entitlement mindset. They use the word deserve to mask the word entitled.

          Doesn't everyone deserve a home of their own?
          Everyone is entitled to a house.

          Doesn't everyone deserve to be paid a minimum of $15.00 per hour?
          Everyone is entitled to get paid at least $15.00 per hour.

          You get the idea.

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          • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
            Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

            Liberals today operate with an entitlement mindset.
            I would argue that people with an "entitlement mindset" are not
            Liberals any more than Tea Party members are Republicans?

            They are just a very loud, childish minority within the group.



            In any case, I think the one thing that we can all agree on
            is that the "test" was ridiculous.
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            • Profile picture of the author lcombs
              Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

              I would argue that people with an "entitlement mindset" are not
              Liberals any more than Tea Party members are Republicans?

              They are just a very loud, childish minority within the group.



              In any case, I think the one thing that we can all agree on
              is that the "test" was ridiculous.
              Yeah, for the most part.
              There are a lot of ambiguous questions and others that are left to interpretation.

              But, it generated a lot of conversation, which is the point of the quiz.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          I voted against it because it is theft!

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          Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          Some of the stupidest questions I've seen.
          For example, "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."

          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          Actually, that's a fine question.

          So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          Actually, that's a fine question.

          You should read the book The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt. The author claims that liberals operate with 3 moral foundations - Care, Fairness & Liberty while conservatives operate with 6 - the previous three along with Loyalty, Authority & Sanctity.

          So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
          That is ASSUMING the reader has the same understanding as the writer. As for the rest? I prefer SCIENCE fiction!

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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

          "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."

          So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
          Hmm comrade... err...I mean Sumit. I marked strongly disagree for that one.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post
            "There is no harm in traveling occasionally without a ticket if you can get away with it."

            So, liberals are likely to vote agree on that previous question while conservatives wold vote disagree (because of the Authority foundation, I think).
            QUOTE=TimPhelan;8770355]Hmm comrade... err...I mean Sumit. I marked strongly disagree for that one.[/QUOTE]

            So did I and I'm not conservative. Go figure.:rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Hmm comrade... err...I mean Sumit. I marked strongly disagree for that one.
            So did I. Theft is theft, and it's wrong.

            And I'm not conservative at all.
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              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              So did I. Theft is theft, and it's wrong.
              I like that quote. I'm taking it.
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              • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
                Are you stealing it? :rolleyes:
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
                So did I. Theft is theft, and it's wrong.
                Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                I like that quote. I'm taking it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    While it's not off the mark in most of what it says about me, I have never considered myself a Libertarian and don't know a single one that I would vote for.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      While it's not off the mark in most of what it says about me, I have never considered myself a Libertarian and don't know a single one that I would vote for.
      I know. Stupid Libertarians expecting people and govt. to be responsible:rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I know. Stupid Libertarians expecting people and govt. to be responsible:rolleyes:
        It was a comment on the test being inaccurate Thom, as you know, politics isn't allowed. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          It was a comment on the test being inaccurate Thom, as you know, politics isn't allowed. :rolleyes:
          Sorry about that.
          Like I said I only made it 21 questions into the test before I couldn't take the stupidity of the questions
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    Wait, am I doing this right?



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      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      Wait, am I doing this right?



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      You are a very effective teacher, and you are very committed to those who learn from you. You put your all into everything you do, to some extent because you fear failure more than anything else. You are always seeking self-improvement, even in areas where there is nothing you can do to improve.
      I think so....but it seems there's a very huge defect in the responses.
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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    The test? - Ridiculous!

    The comments? - Priceless!!!!!
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    I mean, if the chicken's cute...
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    ^^Reminds me of Frank Donovan's current signature:

    "My editor calls me a compulsive plagiarist (his words, not mine)."

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      Yep, Frank's sig is great. I tweeted it earlier today.

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      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      ^^Reminds me of Frank Donovan's current signature:

      "My editor calls me a compulsive plagiarist (his words, not mine)."

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        Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

        Yep, Frank's sig is great. I tweeted it earlier today.

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        Now that Frank's signature is growing in fame and soon to be all over the Internet, I guess it's OK to steal it. Public domain, or something like that.
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    The test seems skewed to favor Socialists. I didn't go enough in the favored direction, so I am a "jaded materialist".
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