The Wolf Of Wall Street. Did you watch it? Tons of spoilers

I agree. Watching DeCaprio and Jonah Hill act like maniacs is like living through the "Terrible twos" all over again.

Phenomenal acting from both actors.

I loved the movie. Now that I've said that. (Did you catch the Jordon Belfort cameo?)


He's a sociopath. You simply cannot be so excited about knowingly ripping people off, without being a scumbag. Yes, that's a moral judgement.

The hookers? The drugs? The yacht? The more hookers? Boys will be boys.

The work ethic these guys had was astounding, and my hat's off to them.
I have Jordon Belfort's sales course, and it's very good.

But selling someone something, knowing for a dead certainty, that they are going to lose all their money? That's a special kind of low.

He could have made just as much money, selling real offers, that were not an outright fraud.

But the movie? I think I was laughing more than anyone in the theater. Jonah Hill is inherently funny. Sorry, but it's true. And he showed that he has serious acting chops. His teeth killed me. The "Yacht in the storm" scene was amazingly funny. Watching these guys on the jet (where Belfort gets restrained) is hilarious.

Oh, and Matthew McConaughey was great too.

Um...I wouldn't take a kid.

She was in the Aussie soap Neighbours. Lots of very comely lasses have emerged from that TV show: Kylie Minogue, Delta Goodrem, Natalie Imbruglia, just to name a few.

Off topic but value to me

The title implies revealed content. Did we watch it? Yes, but no comment because Laurence needs to catch up. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's!

MARGOT! MARGOT! MARGOT!

Laurence, this isn't a mystery or a whodoneit movie. Claude read the book before and most who see the movie have some sort of idea of what the story is about. I read a review before seeing it which went into a lot of detail and that didn't spoil it for me.

Oh c'mon, it was a trip! Large and loud and mean and intoxicating. Scorsese makes some big pictures.

Actually, while I was watching it, I gave it quick consideration. Here's about what I was going to say;

"Think about all the important things you have accomplished in your life...all the impressive things you've acquired. All of these defining moments required your signature. haven't they." (Yes)

'Imagine all the future accomplishments that you'll achieve. Your signature will be there forever for everyone to see. Don't these moments deserve a fine writing instrument to match the quality of the documents you will be signing?"
(yes)
"Feel the pen's weight. Hefty, to give a smooth line. Comfortable, to match the calm assurance you have while making these decisions. And the people present, will see another perfectly crafted piece of evidence, that everything about you is top shelf, including your pen. The signatures you write will represent millions of dollars in future income. And for a pen that will last your lifetime, $349 is a drop in the bucket, isn't it?" (I suppose so)

"Did you just want one? Or should you also have a backup in case yours gets misplaced?"


Off the top of my head.


That's how to sell a pen.

added later; I also should have added, at the end "Don't you deserve the best? Haven't you earned a pen like this?"

I have the scripts they used and the rebuttals to objections.

There are some gems to take away. But the majority of it is pure intimidation, posturing, and appealing to greed. They made tons of money because they could call several hundred people a day.

Would it work today? Maybe, but you have to be a complete scumbag to use these tactics. I've never seen so much lying, and outright deception in any sales script. It's fraud. No matter how you dress it up.

I could see making several major sales a day. I can also see most of them cancelling. Only a sociopath would sell, the way Belfort taught his guys to sell....and it would have to a less than brilliant sociopath.

The take-away here is to be fearless, call for 8 hours a day, and go for the close. That's the real "secret" here.