What can I do to live on my own?

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Hey guys, may I first say how maxing everyone on here is? Having said that I'd like all of your opinions on something.

I turned 22 this year, and it's been a turning point on my life. I used to be sick but I'm better now. I don't have a car, job or apt I love at home and all the free time and lack of money is effecting me negatively.

My goals right now are small, just to provide for myself, to have a steady source of income. Enough to pay for an apt, car and food -- that's all. I just need a way to do that, an idea that you all know will help me.

Also keep in mind I'd also like to create a lifestyle for myself that's respectable.
So what can I do to earn a good enough money to provide for myself. I just want to do something that you all know works -- and is reliable.
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  • Profile picture of the author subisa852
    Apply for a job now and don't make excuses. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Originally Posted by subisa852 View Post

      Apply for a job now and don't make excuses. Good luck!
      Get a job, or one job and a part-time job to make enough money. Then start to learn to work online. Don't even think you can nail a living income right away--there's a fair-sized learning curve that you should take your time to get through while you aren't worrying how to get your next meal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
    What do you do with your time currently?
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Apple and Google make a lot of money but you know what? They REALLY don't know how much they will make next year, and MOST money is spent by selling things at a price higher than what they cost. There is a RISK!

    If you become a persons affiliate, they could make a mistake, or have a change in policy, and the money could disappear overnight. If you create your own business? Well, whole INDUSTRIES have disappeared.

    So if you want reliable, a job is best short term. You can work at a business and try to get enough good months under your belt, and enough ideas for the future, to ride out the bad months ahead, and ***THEN*** think about quitting.

    A word of advice. In MOST places, at least in the US, it would be a VERY good idea to get a car. Even for a USED car now, you may be able to get a 5year loan. A 2year old car will likely still have a warranty, and cost about HALF the price of a new one. If you can take a bit more risk, you may be able to get a nice car for $3000. If you can get a parent to cosign for you, and you make all the payments, you can build your credit.

    In most other areas, try to learn public routes and take advantage of various deals. They tend to be low priced. In washington DC, for example, there is a special card you can order. Once you get it, you can fill it up and use the local buses, "metro", etc... almost as if you owned the place while others struggle to get tickets and waste time.

    Steve
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  • I agree with April: start with a 'day job.' While you're there, decide on an online business that you can be both good at and passionate about, and develop it as a side business at first.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkfloyd247
    Ok, so you guys are saying to get a regular job first. I got it. Let me address everything.
    I'd like to move to Nyc I live not to far from there in another state. Can I use Nyc to make money there? I mean maybe there's one simple thing I can do to give me the best of both worlds -- be employed by myself AND make routinely good money. Shouldn't there be thousands of opportunities? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

    Secondly, what type of Job can I get?? (I don't have a high school diploma -- long story).
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      Secondly, what type of Job can I get?? (I don't have a high school diploma -- long story).
      What can you do?

      Pink, here are my thoughts for you based on what I've learned about you from two posts. You're 22, live at home, have no education and just got over being sick -- and when you said 'sick' I took it to mean gravely ill. My thoughts - and they're just mine -- are that you're jumping the gun.

      Get your GED, get into college or a vocational program, and slow down. You're chomping at the bit to start your life. Speaking from experience, this is where long-lasting mistakes are made. Your early 20's are a time to find yourself, to figure out what you want to do with your life. Don't rush into life by making decisions that shackle you to a future you don't want.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      Ok, so you guys are saying to get a regular job first. I got it. Let me address everything.
      I'd like to move to Nyc I live not to far from there in another state. Can I use Nyc to make money there? I mean maybe there's one simple thing I can do to give me the best of both worlds -- be employed by myself AND make routinely good money. Shouldn't there be thousands of opportunities? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

      Secondly, what type of Job can I get?? (I don't have a high school diploma -- long story).
      OH, there are LOTS of opportunities in New York city. MOST are NOT ones that YOU can take advantage of! Good news? You probably WON'T want to get a car. BAD news? ******EXPENSIVE*****!!!!!! I don't know why you would want to MOVE there. I wonder what state you are in. I had a job in Jersey City new jersey. I could literally WALK to new york. The streets were a MESS. They had one, that I believe was 12 lanes. It went through a place called the holland tunnel. If you are in new jersey, going to new york, you can consider that a taste of what new york city is like. Do yourself a favor! RESEARCH! Go to the area! Look at the apartments, wages, and parking accommodations. And if you REALLY want to go to new york, the STATE, you could go to a place like ARMONK! It is nicer, and probably cheaper.

      As for your education? The first level of decent starting jobs used to require High school or better. NOW, they want bachelors or better. I would say get a GED!!!!
      They are checking more and more, so if you have skeletons, or lie about something like jail or education, they ARE likely to find out. Still, your options WILL be limited. At least you may set off fewer red flags.

      I REALLY think you should look someplace else besides New York City.

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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      I mean maybe there's one simple thing I can do to give me the best of both worlds -- be employed by myself AND make routinely good money. Shouldn't there be thousands of opportunities?
      There are as many opportunities as you can create for yourself.

      Self-employment isn't something you go pick up from a store shelf. You have to dream up the opportunity, and then hammer and forge it into a viable income.

      It takes a LOT of hours, a lot of dedication, and a willingness to learn, and enough humility to learn from your inevitable mistakes.

      You said you're living at home and have all sorts of free time. How wisely are you using it? Right now is when you should be learning all you can, creating a plan, and executing it.

      If you're not taking advantage of your free time now, moving out probably won't help because it only gets harder on your own.

      I would advise you to get a job, save some money, and use your free time to learn about entrepreneurship. We don't have your answers, you do, even though you may not realize it right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Been thinking the same thing too.. but what I have now is a job (but not yet stabled)

    Anyway, find a stable job and after that establish a small business online where you can grow your money. Make sure to create a timeline so you can track your progress. Good luck to both of us!
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Get at least a part-time job so you have money coming in and
    can structure your time so you are no longer negatively
    effected by all the free time and lack of money. This will probably
    help your social life as well.

    Get the GED too.

    You don't say anything about pressure from the family to move out,
    but at least start paying something for rent so they continue being
    supportive and you don't get the financial/slacker tensions.

    Since you're recovering from what sounds like a major illness,
    we can't tell what you are physically capable of doing.

    But, take two tracks. Learn a way to make money that you can always
    rely on. Maybe bartending. Maybe bath and kitchen repair and
    remodeling. Maybe painting, fixing things, and cleaning and offering
    those services. Maybe auto repair so you can be a mechanic and/or
    fix and flip cars. Maybe buying in demand products low and selling
    them for profit on Amazon or Ebay or at flea markets...
    Anyway, one track you can do and rely on.

    Another track. Longer term. Figure out what you want to do
    and get the education needed (formal or not) and go for that.

    As Dan Riffle pointed, it's a more gradual process and Rome was
    not built in a day.

    Dan

    PS - It may be hard to imagine at 22, but there are people I
    know and respect who had the foresight to get jobs they could
    do for 20 years and get a pretty good retirement income.
    So, while just in their early 40's, they had the option to
    pursue other things and still have a good income.

    One gal worked the counter at FedEx, others were military or
    law enforcement or other government positions. Others worked
    for grocery stores.

    Now, positions like that are fewer and harder to find, but it's
    something to think about.

    PPS - Just another example. I know someone who practiced law
    for a lot of years so he could provide for his family. On the side,
    he wrote a novel that was based upon a true story. It was
    interesting to a lot of people, became a made for TV movie,
    and earned him a small fortune.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkfloyd247
    Dan, Dennis - and everyone else -- thanks for your response(s). Honestly some of these answers took away hope I had and were a bit depressing... It looks like I have nothing to look forward to in life.

    I want to execute a plan as soon as possible -- I'm just unable to excogitate one. Yes, Dan, I was sick, I have a rare muscle disease that left me bed ridden for a while and took 5 years out if my life. I'm better now (thank God) and I want to create a better life for myself.

    About school... (Keep in mind I have depression so I'm apathetic about life as it is) I have no desire to go to school or graduate and all that. Why? Nothing I'd like to do requires me going to school. I love music and am trying my best to get that going. A senior representative of Sony actually heard my music today!

    I visit Nyc all the time and its so much more interesting and fun compared to the quite little town I'm in now, with negative people -- I don't feel comfortable here. My plan was to get a roommate in queens -- the rooms go for 600-900$ per month. Not bad. See I'm not that stupid, lol.

    Although I want to make sure I don't waste time in my life, I feel I found myself. I know who I am and I'm constantly improving. I just don't know what to do to fix the issues of where's my futures going -- I need guidance. There's no adults in my life that can help me, which is why I asked you guys. Here's things I like doing/skills I have:

    I'd like a job that's: adventurous, always keeps me guessing, is challenging and different everytime.
    I like Traveling, Music, Helping people & Adventure (something risky that involves adrenaline). I'd like something elagent that has an interesting lifestyle.

    Skills: I'm great at giving advice, philosophy, writing music, decoding body language, things relating to woman and understanding them, psychology.

    Don't let my skills limit or shape your answer -- I can always learn something new. Feel free to tell me what job you think fits that. This was the best I was able to describe what's in my heart, if you have any questions needing a further explanation let me know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post



      I like Traveling, Music, Helping people & Adventure (something risky that involves adrenaline). I'd like something elagent that has an interesting lifestyle.
      Why don't you train to become a smokejumper? They're the folks that sky dive out of planes to help fight forest fires. This would fulfil three of your likes: traveling, helping people and adventure/thrill seeking.

      Try to volunteer at a sky diving company in exchange for some free lessons, etc. You may also be able to volunteer at a local firefighting unit. Both will give you some related experience. It may take a couple of years to get the experience and training, but you'll have a career you'll enjoy with some pretty good pay, while providing a desperately needed service to man, animal and property.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      Dan, Dennis - and everyone else -- thanks for your response(s). Honestly some of these answers took away hope I had and were a bit depressing... It looks like I have nothing to look forward to in life.
      You have 16 years to live before you reach my age. That comment just depressed me. Being 22 is enough of a reason to be happy. Some people don't even get there.

      Bear in mind, Dan and Dennis speak from a great deal of real life experience, not what one perceives the future to be at 22. At 22 I was doing things that scare me now, my view of where I'd be now was that I'd probably be dead or in prison. Either way just 10 years ago my thoughts of where I'd be now are well off.

      Sometimes you have to learn to appreciate where you are today, what you have today and learn to enjoy today. Learn to enjoy right now.

      I want to execute a plan as soon as possible -- I'm just unable to excogitate one. Yes, Dan, I was sick, I have a rare muscle disease that left me bed ridden for a while and took 5 years out if my life. I'm better now (thank God) and I want to create a better life for myself.
      Great, that's splendid, you sound positive already. I can see after that why you'd be in a rush but I can assure you will look back in years to come and wonder what the rush was.

      About school... (Keep in mind I have depression so I'm apathetic about life as it is) I have no desire to go to school or graduate and all that. Why? Nothing I'd like to do requires me going to school. I love music and am trying my best to get that going. A senior representative of Sony actually heard my music today!
      Actually you can learn just about anything at school or college. They even do a degree in Mylie Cyrus over here. Trust me, you can learn anything. Including music.

      What did the senior rep of Sony say about you music and how did he come to hear it? You're obviously taking some action, well done.

      I visit Nyc all the time and its so much more interesting and fun compared to the quite little town I'm in now, with negative people -- I don't feel comfortable here. My plan was to get a roommate in queens -- the rooms go for 600-900$ per month. Not bad. See I'm not that stupid, lol.
      Imagine how happy you could be if you could learn to appreciate where you are now. Appreciate the fact you're alive and well.

      Although I want to make sure I don't waste time in my life, I feel I found myself. I know who I am and I'm constantly improving. I just don't know what to do to fix the issues of where's my futures going -- I need guidance. There's no adults in my life that can help me, which is why I asked you guys. Here's things I like doing/skills I have:
      And we're trying to help you. I don't think you've had time to waste your life yet. I also think the "Issues of where your futures going" are normal for most people of your age and I don't think there are any issues outside of the ones you have made up in your mind.

      Put it this way, you're 22, bright, constantly improving, you've found yourself, you're adventurous, you like challenges and if you like things to be different you can embrace change - Many can't. You're good with music, helping people, giving advice, you're a philosopher, a reader of body language, psychology and you understand women which with all the worldy experience he has, Dan hasn't mastered that yet.

      You can also learn something new, which is one reason you could go to college or something.

      My point is, you don't have much faith in yourself but you have way more skill than a lot of people and you're only 22.

      The key here is to not feel sorry for yourself and be happy where you are. Once upon a time I was in a bad place, a long time ago. I didn't have anywhere to live at the time. Eventually a friend took me in and while I was in the shower, and I had nothing but the clothes I was wearing (not in the shower of course), I realised I was happy and at that point I vowed I'd be happy no matter what my situation was because whatever the situation is, it is. You have to deal with it and it's a lot easier if you can appreciate whatever good bit there is about it.

      You were very ill, now you're not. If nothing else, focus on the fact you're grateful to be better and infinitely more happy today than when you were bed ridden. That's better than making up issues about a future that doesn't exist yet.

      Carry that thought with you for the rest of your life because life will always be better than being in that bed again.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      Dan, Dennis - and everyone else -- thanks for your response(s). Honestly some of these answers took away hope I had and were a bit depressing... It looks like I have nothing to look forward to in life.

      I want to execute a plan as soon as possible -- I'm just unable to excogitate one. Yes, Dan, I was sick, I have a rare muscle disease that left me bed ridden for a while and took 5 years out if my life. I'm better now (thank God) and I want to create a better life for myself.
      I know where you're coming from. If things came as easily as you implied, EVERYONE would be doing it! I mean you can look at corn growing and think WHAT A LIFE! I'll do THAT! But if you realize the startup costs for land, the maintenance costs, harvesting, replanting, etc.... It doesn't seem so great. Information and software IS easier today, but STILL, there is advertising, competition, acceptance, support, etc....

      STILL, people that have been poor and backed into a corner HAVE achieved and become rich.

      About school... (Keep in mind I have depression so I'm apathetic about life as it is) I have no desire to go to school or graduate and all that. Why? Nothing I'd like to do requires me going to school. I love music and am trying my best to get that going. A senior representative of Sony actually heard my music today!
      WOW, THAT attitude will get you a nice part time job! (SARC). As I understand it, the GED is just a test like the SAT. https://ged.com/ If you know enough, you may not have to study AT ALL! I was certainly NOT suggesting that you gothrough regular school again.

      I visit Nyc all the time and its so much more interesting and fun compared to the quite little town I'm in now, with negative people -- I don't feel comfortable here. My plan was to get a roommate in queens -- the rooms go for 600-900$ per month. Not bad. See I'm not that stupid, lol.
      OK.

      Although I want to make sure I don't waste time in my life, I feel I found myself. I know who I am and I'm constantly improving. I just don't know what to do to fix the issues of where's my futures going -- I need guidance. There's no adults in my life that can help me, which is why I asked you guys. Here's things I like doing/skills I have:

      I'd like a job that's: adventurous, always keeps me guessing, is challenging and different everytime.
      I like Traveling, Music, Helping people & Adventure (something risky that involves adrenaline). I'd like something elagent that has an interesting lifestyle.

      Skills: I'm great at giving advice, philosophy, writing music, decoding body language, things relating to woman and understanding them, psychology.
      WOW! From good times to life styles of the rich and famous!

      For those that don't know....

      Good times is a tv series about a family in the chicago projects that is barely scraping by:
      The theme song is very telling about the overall tone.


      Lifestyles of the rich and famous is a pretentious braging platform that shows wasteful opulence.


      It COULD happen, but it is unlikely.

      Don't let my skills limit or shape your answer -- I can always learn something new. Feel free to tell me what job you think fits that. This was the best I was able to describe what's in my heart, if you have any questions needing a further explanation let me know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd247 View Post

      Dan, Dennis - and everyone else -- thanks for your response(s). Honestly some of these answers took away hope I had and were a bit depressing... It looks like I have nothing to look forward to in life.
      Why would you let strangers on a forum take away hope? You're giving others way too much power over your emotions and thought processes if that's true.

      Life is what you make it. Choose your dreams and chase them down. You're lucky to have that opportunity. If you were born in North Korea, to cite one example, you wouldn't have that opportunity. You wouldn't even get to choose how to wear your hair, all the men have to have the same haircut. From what we read, life there is like an open prison. One misstep and you can be shot.

      So much about life depends on the attitude we choose. Focus on the good, look for the good, and you'll have a very good chance of finding the good and living a happy life. If you focus on the bad you'll have a very good chance of finding the bad and leading an unhappy life. What you consistently focus on expands. As you choose your thoughts, you choose your life.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Unless you've been diagnosed as clinically depressed, then I'd say you're probably just over whelmed with figuring this stuff out. Maybe need some nutritional, vitamin, and mineral improvement.

    Anyway, you do write well and are intelligent. You can figure this out.

    Good luck with Sony. Of course, don't get flat out scammed. Don't become a
    tax write off contract for a major label. (I've known a couple of people who
    fell for that with major labels.) If your music is any good, only take the right
    deal with the right label. Or, go direct to market via ITunes, CDBaby, YouTube....

    As you know, the music industry has many ways to make a career out of it.
    As a performer, writer, publicist, or behind the scenes in publishing, production,
    sound...

    Based upon what you just posted, my gut reaction is to either pursue
    your music and/OR try to get on with an Energy drink company like Monster.
    Companies like Monster have marketing/promotion teams that travel all over
    for all the different sporting (bike races...) and music events they sponsor.

    You also might look at getting into the music and video production end of
    marketing.

    Or something like Warren Miller films, or other adventure film companies.
    GoPro cameras would be another company to try and get on with.

    Also, the X-Games might have something up your alley.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
    Take any kind of job you can get, where selling is required and learn how to sell.

    You can WORK yourself out of any situation by learning sales skills.

    Here's what one New Yorker did. He became a millionaire. (not required)

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    • Originally Posted by Ron Lafuddy View Post

      Take any kind of job you can get, where selling is required and learn how to sell.

      You can WORK yourself out of any situation by learning sales skills.
      One word of caution here: to do really well in sales you have to be exceptionally good at selling - which hardly anyone is.

      However, learning how to sell even adequately is a very important skill for any kind of business you may want to start.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
        Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic View Post

        One word of caution here: to do really well in sales you have to be exceptionally good at selling - which hardly anyone is.

        However, learning how to sell even adequately is a very important skill for any kind of business you may want to start.
        Actually, there are great salespeople everywhere. They are quite common, in that respect. Some work for others, some work for themselves.

        How do we know they are great?
        Because they are paid, based on how much money they generate from sales. And they make an exceptional living.

        Anyone who really wants to, can jump into sales at any time and move right towards the top of their industry. There are opportunities everywhere.

        Having been very successful in sales for over 40 years, I can tell you that it has little to do with being "exceptionally good at selling" and more to do with doing the right things, right.
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    I have to wonder about rent control, and when he got the park avenue apartment. TODAY, they are supposed to be expensive.

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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    I would say going back to school and taking music classes would probably be beneficial to you. Sure your music may be good now, but think how much better it could be if you knew all the various techniques and forms you would be exposed to in college? You'll be exposed to some good stuff you never would have thought existed, just by making friends. Your professor would also expose you to new influences. Most of the great musicians have MANY influences to draw from, and have some sort of formal training.

    College isn't just about getting your degree, it's about life experiences and growing as a person. I wish it on everyone who doesn't have at least a 2 year degree.

    You don't have to go to school full time if you don't think you can handle it, you can go part time and get a part time job at say a music store?

    Look into something called the Pell Grant after you get your GED. MANY people with low income use it to go to school. Also don't worry about going to a major university the first couple years. Go to community college to get the hang of it.
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