Hell is breakin' loose next week.

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Leaving tonight - Will be meeting up with Terra next week. Going home for my dad's 90th birthday. Will be a pretty good party - food, music, and dancing with my dad again. He still does a mean polka and fox trot for an old guy.

Then a couple of days of crystal hunting on the border of NV/CA on the way back.

Can't ask for a better vacation than that one!

You guys don't tear the place up too bad until I get back to help with that.
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    Have a great one, Sal! My mother hit the big 90 this year and of course she is a polka fan.

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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    Leaving tonight - Will be meeting up with Terra next week. Going home for my dad's 90th birthday. Will be a pretty good party - food, music, and dancing with my dad again. He still does a mean polka and fox trot for an old guy.

    Then a couple of days of crystal hunting on the border of NV/CA on the way back.

    Can't ask for a better vacation than that one!

    You guys don't tear the place up too bad until I get back to help with that.
    Enjoy your vacation. Especially make sure you make plenty of time for your parents....you won't have them for much longer you know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Have a great time Sal and enjoy every minute of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Didn't you just take a week off a month or two ago? The life of Riley!

    Have a great time, you and Terra.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Have a safe trip and enjoy your time with your family.
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  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    Leaving tonight - Will be meeting up with Terra next week. Going home for my dad's 90th birthday. Will be a pretty good party - food, music, and dancing with my dad again. He still does a mean polka and fox trot for an old guy.

    Then a couple of days of crystal hunting on the border of NV/CA on the way back.

    Can't ask for a better vacation than that one!

    You guys don't tear the place up too bad until I get back to help with that.

    Sweet!

    I can't wait.

    I took Monday through Sunday off next week. I busted my butt this week finishing up recording an eBook for a client so I could have free time! You know what's cool? My brother, locpic63 is coming home from Missouri and is staying at my house next week too. He'll be here Sunday night, about 10:30ish. I already told him I had plans with you too. He's cool with it.

    Call me as soon as you can girl! I can't wait to go to the beach and spend the day with you and your family.

    Oh, what on earth should I get your Dad for a birthday gift? lol!

    Talk soon!

    Terra
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yep, have a good one, both of you!


      I will try to keep Claude under control, But that will be impossible without Dan's help!



      Hopefully the Man Made global Warming, and ghost threads will be kept down to a minimum?

      Especially since Australia, came to their....,ahem, Got rid of the Carbon Tax yesterday!




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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Hi Terra -

    Please tell Locpic63 I said hi. He might remember me from his short stint @ PIPS

    Sheesh, what were your parents thinking when they named your brother dat (just joking).

    Have fun - tell Sal to leave some Asti for the other citizens @ 'all hell is breakin' loose'...
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    • Profile picture of the author LouiGeeinMD
      Awww. I want to have a vacation too!
      Enjoy !!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    Have fun Sal and Terra!

    We want to hear all about it when you get back.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Terra it up and paint it red.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Enjoy your break, Sal. You deserve it! Just bring a shovel and some rubber gloves when you return, to help bury the bodies.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm baaaaaaaaaack.

    Was a great time. Forgot my phone book so Missed Terra. Called you at work, Terra, and they told me you were off for the week so had Thom post a message to ya. I couldn't get into this forum to save my life from there and my dad has a laptop that is anything but userfriendly - so I just hung it up for the week.

    Dennis - I was only gone 5 days last time. Hardly a "vacation", although we did get some incredible rock. That was my website meetup - we did the ID/OR border area. The story and pics are in my blog on my main website (rockhoundstation1 - which is so familiarly known as RHS1 that I should buy the domain. Anyhow - we had a riot on that one, too.

    I drove down to CA after work on Friday, stopped for a few zzzs for a few hours then got there on Saturday and hung out at the niece's. Then was on the plane at 5:30 Sunday morning in Sacramento with my sister for MI.

    My dad had a party at the local golf club and I was one of the youngest there. LOL. One of the old timers with a bit of dementia fell in the bathroom and they couldn't get in the stall, no room at the bottom and she was blocking the door so I went over the doors and was the party hero for being able to swing over the door. Of course, I gave dad the credit that I can do that kind of thing at 60 (or almost). We danced and I was the one messing us up because of the adreline of having to go make a rescue a few minutes before. The next day we had another party with my dad's organ lessons group. That was like listening to a bunch of kids beginning to play but the people were fun and nice so it was all good after we had to listen to everyone play. yikes.

    Had my step brother and his wife (from Germany) there so really had a good party time with them over the week. There's a very impressive botanical garden right down the road that we took a walk through. This is my dad's third wife. At the wedding I told her "he's buried 2 now, are you sure you want to do this", LMAO. Okay here's some fun............my dad's wife was my mom's best friend. I used to play with my step brother a lot when we were kids (don't make anything evil of that one, please, Claude). Her husband died the year after my mom and around 97 she came back after having moved away for a class reunion and my dad went to see her to make sure she was doing okay (this is several years after burying #2 - who was a catlady from hell). So - my dad is married to my mom's best friend now. She was nervous we kids would be upset but I think it's great to have that history at that age.

    Anyway - went rockhunting for a couple of days with my niece on the return trip. We got hundreds of pounds of soapstone, which carvers use - and smoky quartz crystals and a few amethyst. Then I came home.

    The end. Back to the damned grind now.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm baaaaaaaaaack.

      Was a great time. Forgot my phone book so Missed Terra. Called you at work, Terra, and they told me you were off for the week so had Thom post a message to ya. I couldn't get into this forum to save my life from there and my dad has a laptop that is anything but userfriendly - so I just hung it up for the week.
      Sal, as you know, my brother was here and he is scaring the heck out of me. Has been having episodes of losing control of his body/muscle control. He stays conscious the whole time, but shakes terribly, not like Parkinson's or Lou Gerig's, but his legs and arms and torso are like he's a marionette puppet and someone very inexperienced is trying to work it. His doctor wanted to do an MRI and possibly a cat scan but he told him, no, not until he got back because he had to see his kids and his sister. If the doc wanted to do emergency surgery or something after the test/tests, he wouldn't be able to come home.

      Needless to say, he can't drive. He took the train here. Anyway, he wanted to go to Traverse City for a few days and I told him we had to wait until I heard from you. I was expecting you to call me. I checked the forum a couple of times but you hadn't been on. After a couple of days, I told my brother that we weren't going to Traverse City, but because you had mentioned a day at the beach in Tawas, I told him I was only driving there, so when I heard from you, I would be close. I called home on brother's cell every night to ask Bill if you had called. Mine didn't get reception up there. = (

      I just thought maybe because you hadn't been home for a bit, family had an itinerary for you and there just wasn't time. I am bummed we missed each other. =(

      When I got back home and checked the forum, I got Thom's PM and called the number you left with him, but by then, I guess it was too late. That sucks, but I'm very elated that you had a wonderful time!

      We'll definitely hook up next time!

      Now, I'm off to call Brother and stay on his arse about getting those tests done!!


      Edit: Pat, yes, he remembered you and told me to say hello, right back atcha!


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    It's okay, Terra. When your employer told me you were gone I figured if you were in the area you'd get back to me, if not, then you probably had family to attend to. Sorry we didn't meet, but it wasn't a big deal. My time was pretty much planned for me there.

    I sure hope your brother is okay.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Sal and Terra meeting up in the same place???
    Oh man I've been gone way to long!

    God, I know it's been a while since I've talked with you but I need a favor...lol

    Hope you both have a great time and what ever you do don't let them know you may know Thom personally...

    Have a Great Time!
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Sal and Terra meeting up in the same place???
      Oh man I've been gone way to long!

      God, I know it's been a while since I've talked with you but I need a favor...lol

      Hope you both have a great time and what ever you do don't let them know you may know Thom personally...

      Have a Great Time!
      Michael
      Ah - everyone knows I know Thom personally. I mean...really......whose gonna be brave or stupid enough to have comments about that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Omigod Terra -

    Now I am concerned about your brother for real - please be sure to let us know what is going on with him. I will pray for him. Poor baby.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Terra,

    Sorry to hear about your brother. I had a similar
    reaction to prescribed meds - not as extreme.
    And just a one time event. I hope it's just something
    along those lines.

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Thanks, Dan.

      He's had 4 episodes since January but is otherwise healthy and doesn't take any medication. The doctor's haven't been able to find any common denominator when they occur.

      I've called him twice since he's been home, but no answer. He doesn't have his voice mail set up. I'm trying not to worry because I know he was going on 12 hour days when he got back and he works the afternoon shift while I work morning shifts.

      I just wish he'd call me back. He's probably avoiding my calls because he doesn't want to hear me admonish him, lol!


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Terra - sounds like a mineral deficiency. Tell him to try eating a quarter cup of raw pumpkin seeds or nuts (can't eat em so can't remember off the top of my head which kind are best) every day and switch to sea salt...preferably Himalayan sea salt - it has the most trace minerals (around 80) that the worthless sodium chloride alone (regular table salt) has.

    Mineral deficiencies do all sorts of crazy stuff like that to you.

    I also agree that if he's on pharms, he needs to consider those real hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Terra - sounds like a mineral deficiency. Tell him to try eating a quarter cup of raw pumpkin seeds or nuts (can't eat em so can't remember off the top of my head which kind are best) every day and switch to sea salt...preferably Himalayan sea salt - it has the most trace minerals (around 80) that the worthless sodium chloride alone (regular table salt) has.

      Mineral deficiencies do all sorts of crazy stuff like that to you.

      I also agree that if he's on pharms, he needs to consider those real hard.
      Thanks Sal!

      I will when he returns my call. He might call me tonight on his lunch hour.

      He's on no meds, grows his own veggies, does use sea salt but I'm not sure if it's Himalayan or not. He just started raising his own chickens early this year. He has bee hives and produces his own honey. Oh, that reminds me, he brought you a bottle of it. It's still at my house. He has a lucrative side business in his honey. He has a huge waiting list for it too.

      Oh, he did mention that the ticks were really bad in his part of Missouri this year. I asked him about them but he says he's sure he didn't get bit.



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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    If he's already eating sea salt he's getting the trace minerals. Mg is a common deficiency though and he needs to make sure he's getting enough.

    If these episodes accompany a fever they are called "rigor" and indicate bacterial infection. It didn't sound like he's getting a fever with these things though. Could be partial seizures, could be a lot of things. I'd try to balance out the minerals before doing anything else. This is the type of thing doctors have a real problem diagnosing - and they just turn to prescribing multiple meds because they don't know.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Sal, he called me last night on his break just as I suspected. He is going to try the quarter cup of raw pumpkin seeds and look for the Himalayan sea salt and try that instead of the kind he uses currently.

      There is no fever involved however he told me last night that he woke up having another episode. He said he never had one during his sleep before and also said that heat, as like in cuddling up in a thick comforter eliminates the duration of them.

      I'm not sure if that is the case or just that he either slept through part of it or just had a shorter one than the times before.

      Anyway, being his sister, I could tell he was partly so eager to try that to put off calling his doctor, which he hasn't done since he got back home. lol!


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      • Profile picture of the author Patrician
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Sal, he called me last night on his break just as I suspected. He is going to try the quarter cup of raw pumpkin seeds and look for the Himalayan sea salt and try that instead of the kind he uses currently.

        There is no fever involved however he told me last night that he woke up having another episode. He said he never had one during his sleep before and also said that heat, as like in cuddling up in a thick comforter eliminates the duration of them.

        I'm not sure if that is the case or just that he either slept through part of it or just had a shorter one than the times before.

        Anyway, being his sister, I could tell he was partly so eager to try that to put off calling his doctor, which he hasn't done since he got back home. lol!


        Terra
        Support to the Sister: I agree = He really needs an MRI and maybe a neurologist -before there is any permanent damage - like the way a 'stroke' would leave somebody impaired. Just see what you are dealing with if possible and see if they can't stop it right now before it gets worse.

        Then if NOT, it may be sub-clinical and you can opt only to do naturopathic cures, etc. - but they take a long time to work, if they ever do. Maybe he will be blessed and it is just a severe allergy to something. Either way it will take time to figure it out.

        I hate to say it but it does sound like some kind of poison - maybe carbon monoxide(?) (not sure) but I watch too many reality forensics shows and when women poison their husbands with arsenic in their food slowly over time - it sounds kind of like what you describe. (another reason to try to find out what is doing it and stopping it before it adds up and becomes fatal). Maybe even lead poisoning(?) from old paint. (again i am really not sure what the symptoms are). Or some chemical related to his work?

        I would at all costs, find alternatives to their drugs for whatever they try to give them to anybody for - serious

        - but the natural stuff takes longer and it doesn't sound like he should let it go on that much longer in any case. Like it is a little late to eat pumpkins seeds - to go forward, yes eat pumpkins seeds, but somehow it seems more serious than that right now.

        I really hope you can get it to go away.


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    I still trying to figure out Himalayan sea salt. I wasn't aware there was even a sea in the Himalayas?

    Isn't it being hyped by the world famous gambler The Bettin' Tibetan? I know he's from those parts.

    I'm guessing you'll find the Himalayan sea salt right next to the dehydrated water...
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I still trying to figure out Himalayan sea salt. I wasn't aware there was even a sea in the Himalayas?

      Isn't it being hyped by the world famous gambler The Bettin' Tibetan? I know he's from those parts.

      I'm guessing you'll find the Himalayan sea salt right next to the dehydrated water...
      I've always just known it as Himalayan Pink Salt. Sea Salt is a whole different thing. Pink Salt is mined Sea Salt is made from evaporating sea water.
      It comes from Pakistan from the second largest salt mine in the world.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I've always just known it as Himalayan Pink Salt. Sea Salt is a whole different thing. Pink Salt is mined Sea Salt is made from evaporating sea water.
        It comes from Pakistan from the second largest salt mine in the world.
        Thanks. I didn't know that. I just knew it is the salt with the highest trace mineral content.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I don't know why it's called that - probably from the Dead sea or something - but it has more minerals than any of the sea salts.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I kind of echo Patricia and Sal. I'd encourage him to go two tracks.
    Rule out major med stuff as Patricia is suggesting AND get him with
    a naturopathic doc.

    Sal could be right on track on the mineral deficiencies.
    I've heard that restless leg syndrome (which seems to
    occur at night) is related to mineral deficiencies.
    Magnesium (and there are three crucial types of magnesium),
    potassium, and calcium seem to work together.

    If there is a severe deficiency, I'd think he'd want to take
    supplements to get back up to balance. Under the guidance of
    a naturopath.

    So many variables.

    A friend of mine was diagnosed with lyme disease.
    It may have been a decade after his likely tick exposure. It is very hard
    and tricky to diagnose. His symptoms were not the same as your
    brothers. He had severe cramping and pain and his hands would crimp
    up like those with severe arthritis...I don't think he had any twitching or seizure
    like episodes.

    Anyway, I do hope it is something simple and he gets well soon and does not
    get messed by MD's who blindly prescribe junk.

    But, it does sound like time for the right professionals to be involved.
    More and more MDs do seem to be open to "Complimentary and Alternative"
    practitioners.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I agree that getting checked out isn't a bad idea - what many people with these types of condition are finding, though, is that testing turns up nothing and many doctors call the person delusional and give them anti-depressants which help..........nothing. If heat is helping, he might be feverish when he has these and that would more than likely mean an infection - that would be easy to diagnose at least.

    Not saying he shouldn't try - just to be prepared for a lot of nothing.
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