Remove black borders from a GIF?

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I've been playing around with the software that someone recommended in my other thread. The software is Free Video to GIF Converter. When I use this software to convert a video to a GIF it has black borders on the sides. I have this problem even when I use the free online conversion tools. Is there any way to make a GIF from a video without the border?
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

    I've been playing around with the software that someone recommended in my other thread. The software is Free Video to GIF Converter. When I use this software to convert a video to a GIF it has black borders on the sides. I have this problem even when I use the free online conversion tools. Is there any way to make a GIF from a video without the border?
    You can try adjusting the output size on that free tool to try removing the black borders.

    The more advanced video to .gif tools allow cropping but I am not aware of a free watermark-less tool that has this function. They probably do exist, but I have not run across one.

    If you want to pay a few bucks you can get a very simple tool like this one that allows cropping.

    Purchase Amazing Video to GIF Converter

    Maybe you can try the demo version and if it allows you to sufficiently remove the borders then you can decide if it's worth the $20 or not.

    Cheers.

    -don
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    • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
      Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

      The more advanced video to .gif tools allow cropping but I am not aware of a free watermark-less tool that has this function. They probably do exist, but I have not run across one.

      If you want to pay a few bucks you can get a very simple tool like this one that allows cropping.

      Purchase Amazing Video to GIF Converter

      Maybe you can try the demo version and if it allows you to sufficiently remove the borders then can decide if it's worth the $20 or not.

      Cheers.

      -don
      Thank you. I'm open to the idea of paid software for this task. As it is something that I badly need. I'll check into this.
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

        Thank you. I'm open to the idea of paid software for this task. As it is something that I badly need. I'll check into this.
        I have converted several videos with that free software and I am not getting the black bars. Make sure you have "keep aspect ratio checked" and if that still does not work try unchecking that box and reducing the width dimension to see if you are able to eliminate the black borders.

        Here is a sample I converted quite quickly from a 1280 x 720 video.



        Notice no black borders... If my suggestions do not do the trick for you then probably the easiest way to get the result you are looking for is to use a program that will allow you to crop.

        Cheers

        -don
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          Check Amazon and eBay for Photoshop CS2. I've seen it on eBay for as little as $25. It's old but it's still a beast, especially if you can pick it up cheap. I bought it back in '08 and have managed to get pretty good at certain things. I just picked up CS5.

          As for your current problem, I don't know why you can't just crop around the part of the image that doesn't have the black edges. You could actually do that with MSFT Paint. I believe Paint will even let you save it as a GIF and several other formats. Good luck.
          Yes, gif has that issue, when l use Photoshop l always turn it into a Ping24 image, since it doesn't have any additional color around the edges1


          Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

          I have Photoshop cs2. You can actually get it free now from Adobe. Along with some other old software. I can't seem to figure out how to open a video file in cs2.
          Yes, been there tried that, the only problem with that is, it seizes up after 6 months, then is virtually impossible to use after that. You can restart, wipe it off, won't work!

          Best to go with a paid option. $25 on Ebay? Last l heard it was still a few hundred?

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          • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            Yes, gif has that issue, when l use Photoshop l always turn it into a Ping24 image, since it doesn't have any additional color around the edges1
            The OP is is trying to crop animated .gifs so you need to "keep" the image as an animated gif. To do this in the later versions of Photoshop you need crop each individual layer and then save the animated gif using the "save for web and devices" command. In Photoshop CS2 to work with animated gifs you would need to open the files with ImageReady.

            Below is the animated gif I did above edited in Photoshop (all I did was remove a bunch of frames (layers) in Photoshop and converted the image to sRGB.



            Cheers

            -don
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        • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
          Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

          I have converted several videos with that free software and I am not getting the black bars. Make sure you have "keep aspect ratio checked" and if that still does not work try unchecking that box and reducing the width dimension to see if you are able to eliminate the black borders.

          Here is a sample I converted quite quickly from a 1280 x 720 video.



          Notice no black borders... If my suggestions do not do the trick for you then probably the easiest way to get the result you are looking for is to use a program that will allow you to crop.

          Cheers

          -don
          Did you use Free Video to Gif Converter to make this?
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          • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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            Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

            Did you use Free Video to Gif Converter to make this?
            Yes, that what I meant when I wrote "that free software".

            Cheers

            -don
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            • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
              Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

              Yes, that what I meant when I wrote "that free software".

              Cheers

              -don
              I tried to send you a private message. I'm not sure that it went through. I keep trying and trying and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Is there any chance I could talk to you in private or away from the message board?
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              • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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                Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

                I tried to send you a private message. I'm not sure that it went through. I keep trying and trying and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Is there any chance I could talk to you in private or away from the message board?
                I replied your PM...send me the file and I'll help you out.

                Cheers

                -don
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Check Amazon and eBay for Photoshop CS2. I've seen it on eBay for as little as $25. It's old but it's still a beast, especially if you can pick it up cheap. I bought it back in '08 and have managed to get pretty good at certain things. I just picked up CS5.

    As for your current problem, I don't know why you can't just crop around the part of the image that doesn't have the black edges. You could actually do that with MSFT Paint. I believe Paint will even let you save it as a GIF and several other formats. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Check Amazon and eBay for Photoshop CS2. I've seen it on eBay for as little as $25. It's old but it's still a beast, especially if you can pick it up cheap. I bought it back in '08 and have managed to get pretty good at certain things. I just picked up CS5.

      As for your current problem, I don't know why you can't just crop around the part of the image that doesn't have the black edges. You could actually do that with MSFT Paint. I believe Paint will even let you save it as a GIF and several other formats. Good luck.
      I have Photoshop cs2. You can actually get it free now from Adobe. Along with some other old software. I can't seem to figure out how to open a video file in cs2.
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

        I have Photoshop cs2. You can actually get it free now from Adobe. Along with some other old software. I can't seem to figure out how to open a video file in cs2.
        You don't open videos in CS2 --> you would need to open the GIF file, crop each frame (which are on different layers), and then resave as a GIF. That is the long slow way to go about things so if I were you I would try to do the videro to .gif conversion so you don't get the black bars.

        Cheers

        -don
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      As for your current problem, I don't know why you can't just crop around the part of the image that doesn't have the black edges. You could actually do that with MSFT Paint. I believe Paint will even let you save it as a GIF and several other formats. Good luck.
      This is not so simple with animated gifs as you need to crop all of the layers. Last I checked paint does not allow you to open all of the layers to crop each individual layer. You need a program the deals with animation properly to do this.

      Cheers

      -don
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    If you don't mind editing the GIF after you save it from the video you should be able to crop the image with something like IrfanView. It's a free image view and editor, and still one of the best. I've used it for about 15 or 16 years.
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      If you don't mind editing the GIF after you save it from the video you should be able to crop the image with something like IrfanView. It's a free image view and editor, and still one of the best. I've used it for about 15 or 16 years.
      Hi Dennis,

      I've been using Irfanview basically for as long as you have as well. A very nice free tool, no doubt, but I don't think editing animated gifs is one of it's strengths. As far as I know the crop function is not available with an animated gif, and you would need to extract all of the images that constituted the gif, crop each individual image, and once that is done you would need to reconstitute the gif layers and the timing sequence and I don't think that functionality is available in Irfanview.

      That said, it's pretty amazing that Irfan Skiljan still supports this program and it's probably the "oldest" piece of functional freeware that I have on my machine.

      Cheers

      -don
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  • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
    It seems like editing each of the images in the file would be a lot of work. I may just have to live with the borders.
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

      It seems like editing each of the images in the file would be a lot of work. I may just have to live with the borders.
      Yeah, it can be a ton of work. Let me take a quick look at the file you sent me and I'll try to see what is going on.

      Cheers

      -don
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      • Profile picture of the author TinRoof
        Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

        Yeah, it can be a ton of work. Let me take a quick look at the file you sent me and I'll try to see what is going on.

        Cheers

        -don
        Thank you for your help.
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

        Yeah, it can be a ton of work. Let me take a quick look at the file you sent me and I'll try to see what is going on.

        Cheers

        -don
        Your problem is with the video itself. I took a quick look and the video appears to be a 5/4ish formatted video recorded in 16/9. The black borders are a part of the video and that is why you see the borders when you render the animated gif.

        In this case the easiest thing to do would be use a program to crop the video before converting, or crop during conversion. I'll take a few minutes to see if I have a free solution on my machine.

        Cheers

        -don
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by TinRoof View Post

    Thank you for your help.
    Here is an easy online solution you can use to crop the video, convert the video to gif, and download the watermark free animated gif. I don't know if it's the quality you are looking for but it's easy to do and it works.

    LunaPic | Free Online Photo Editor | Video Editing

    The site also has tons of other fun stuff and cool functions available.

    Note: I deleted my AVC posts above because this online tool probably does all that you need it to do. AVC is a decent tool for converting and/or optimizing video and it is used by millions but you need to be sure to uncheck the bloatware box when you install it. I don't know how effective the AVC crop and convert to gif function is as I only use AVC for simple video conversions and optimization and for that process it works great on my Win7x64 machine.

    I have successfully cropped and converted the video you sent me with the online platform linked above so give it a shot.

    Cheers

    -don
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Sample of the same video I used in the free video to gif converter this time I cropped and converted it to animated gif on the site I linked above.



    I cropped the video and I removed a bunch of frames...

    Cheers

    -don
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    @ TinRoof

    You can use this site to resize and crop animated gifs:

    Animated gif editor and gif maker

    Here is the same video converted at luna, cropped differently, and then uploaded to ezgif to resize and crop.

    Resized



    Cropped (I could have resized as well if I had wanted to)



    You can also do the entire video to conversion, the cropping, and the resizing on that site but I am not sure if you have as much individual frame control as you do at Luna.

    Anyway, you should be all set with these sites. You can convert the video, crop the video, convert the vidreo to gif, remove individual frames from the gif if you want to, crop the gif and resize the gif. What more do you want?

    Cheers

    -don
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

      The OP is is trying to crop animated .gifs so you need to "keep" the image as an animated gif. To do this in the later versions of Photoshop you need crop each individual layer and then save the animated gif using the "save for web and devices" command. In Photoshop CS2 to work with animated gifs would need to open the files with Image Ready.

      Below is the animated gif I did above edited in Photoshop (all I did was remove a bunch of frames (layers) in Photoshop and converted the image to sRGB).

      Cheers

      -don
      Yep, l did fool around with it a while ago, can't remember if l used imageready or not.

      I did this, a lot of work, (took a week) but a pleasing effect!



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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        I did this, a lot of work, (took a week) but a pleasing effect!
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