Salt injection 'kills cancer cells' by causing them to self destruct.

12 years ago

I think this is a bad news for the drug companies who manufacture possible treatment for cancer patients.
Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by AnnaMolly

Salt injection 'kills cancer cells' by causing them to self destruct | Mail Online

What do you think?

I have been seeing tons of these new cancer cures recently. You would think they would finally get some traction and make one mainstream?

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437471].message }}

yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Sometimes I eat a bag of Oreo cookies in the waiting room at the dentist office.

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437495].message }}

MissTerraK 12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Sometimes I eat a bag of Oreo cookies in the waiting room at the dentist office.

LOL!

I'll bet the Dental Hygienist feels like a super hero after she finishes your teeth cleaning. =P

Terra
- [ 1 ] Thanks
- 1 reply
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437502].message }}
- Cali16 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  LOL!
  
  I'll bet the Dental Hygienist feels like a super hero after she finishes your teeth cleaning. =P
  
  Either that, or those are the days she seriously considers a new career!
  
  Thanks
  
  Signature
  If you don't face your fears, the only thing you'll ever see is what's in your comfort zone. ~Anne McClain, astronaut
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437799].message }}

LuckyIMer

12 years ago

I hope that this truly correct, if it is true, it will surely make a difference and save many people.

Thanks

Signature

Increase Sales With These Business Consulting Tips !

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437820].message }}

thunderbird

12 years ago

It is not a mere "salt injection" LOL. There's some fairly advanced science being applied to it. Grabbing a syringe and salt water and trying do-it-yourself wouldn't produce the same results.

Thanks

Signature

Project HERE.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9437826].message }}

HeySal

12 years ago

It probably isn't a "new" cure, but an old one that was taken out of circulation by the AMA and pharma. Baking soda injected into tumors also breaks them up, but there's a risk if it's not done correctly. Still - why don't we have this cure? It is practically free and doesn't result in chronic control needs. There's a book called "The Cancer Cure that Worked: 50 Years of Suppression" that gives a quite detailed chronology on how cures became suppressed.

We do not have health care now. We have a medical industrial complex. Name ONE "cure" that has been found in the last 60 years that has been allowed on the market - you can't. It hasn't happened. What has happened is "drugs for life" to "control" or, in the case of cancer, temporary fixes that leave the threat of the disease's return if someone doesn't learn how to otherwise prevent resurgence.

[ 4 ] Thanks
2 replies

Signature

Sal
When the Roads and Paths end, learn to guide yourself through the wilderness
Beyond the Path

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9438291].message }}

AnniePot 12 years ago

All the charities making big money out of so-called finding a cure for the various cancers really get my goat. My daughter has been a dedicated participant in the Avon Walk for Breast Cancer in Santa Barbara for more than 7 years, during which she alone has raised $20,000+ in sponsorship, and the group she walks with, more than $100,000.

She has a total commitment to this, but I'm afraid I see it, and all similar events, as just another "big business" charity, with those at the top raking off huge salaries.
- [ 3 ] Thanks
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9438829].message }}

Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Name ONE "cure" that has been found in the last 60 years that has been allowed on the market - you can't.

I can and I do. Various kinds of modern chemotherapy have reduced the death-rate in children with various types of leukemia from around 100%, overall (where it was 50 years ago) to around 30% (where it is now), and further progress is regularly being made.

Originally Posted by HeySal

What has happened is "drugs for life" to "control" or, in the case of cancer, temporary fixes that leave the threat of the disease's return if someone doesn't learn how to otherwise prevent resurgence.

This appears not to be so in the case of kids successfully treated for leukemia, Sal. The ones who are cured stay cured, at least for many decades, with non-disabled, totally normal lifestyles, and absolutely free from recurrences and any/all further medical interventions. Some types of cancer can be totally cured and never return, if they're diagnosed and treated early enough for the whole thing to disappear, and if they haven't already spread at all at the time of diagnosis. This is simply factual.

What you're saying above is true of many (perhaps "most") other kinds of cancer, of course - and I agree with about 90% of what you ever say, on this subject, as you know. But there are exceptions, and some of them affect tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of people.

Originally Posted by HeySal

Name ONE "cure" that has been found in the last 60 years that has been allowed on the market - you can't.

Again, I can, and I do: the chemotherapeutic treatment of some (mostly pediatric) lymphoreticular/hemopoietic carcinomas.

"Just saying".

.

[ 3 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9438841].message }}

seasoned

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I can and I do. Various kinds of modern chemotherapy have reduced the death-rate in children with various types of leukemia from around 100%, overall (where it was 50 years ago) to around 30% (where it is now), and further progress is regularly being made.

This appears not to be so in the case of kids successfully treated for leukemia, Sal. The ones who are cured stay cured, at least for many decades, with non-disabled, totally normal lifestyles, and absolutely free from recurrences and any/all further medical interventions. Some types of cancer can be totally cured and never return, if they're diagnosed and treated early enough for the whole thing to disappear, and if they haven't already spread at all at the time of diagnosis. This is simply factual.

What you're saying above is true of many (perhaps "most") other kinds of cancer, of course - and I agree with about 90% of what you ever say, on this subject, as you know. But there are exceptions, and some of them affect tens of thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) of people.

Again, I can, and I do: the chemotherapeutic treatment of some (mostly pediatric) lymphoreticular/hemopoietic carcinomas.

"Just saying".

.

Alexa,

I would NOT call this a cure AT ALL!!!!!! Does it get rid of the cancer? NOPE! Does it really help the child? NOPE!

What they do is try to kill as much of the marrow, cancer, etc... And they are left with a person that, while the cancer cells are hopefully dead, the person is DYING!!!!!!! They have to transplant marrow into the patient and give blood transfusions to hopefully help the child. To call such a thing a CURE is almost tantamount to calling ANYTHING a cure! Can we "cure" diabetes? SURE! over 50% is likely "curable"! Just replace the pancreas. Can we cure kidney disease? SURE, replace the kidneys.

Steve

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9440610].message }}

mkgg

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnnaMolly

Salt injection 'kills cancer cells' by causing them to self destruct | Mail Online

What do you think?

I have been seeing tons of these new cancer cures recently. You would think they would finally get some traction and make one mainstream?

This is just news, sensational news that the original researchers i doubt even intended to give out to public. If you read the article fully, you will read this

unfortunately this also destroys healthy cells which would have to be overcome for it to be useful in treating cancer.

a big DUH!...not really rocket science either because the body maintains salt (NaCl) concentrations in body/cells and if that is messed up the cells die. And no it isn't the insert a needle into your veins injection, the injection means to inject the salt into cancerous cells using microscope.

It is also NOT a cure, there are different ways you can kill cancerous cells but healthy cells die in the process and that is why there is NO CURE for cancer yet. So why the heck is this research such a big deal ? simply because it is just a proof of concept, it may help "pave the way for new anti-cancer drugs" or it could yield nothing and we will all forget about it. Its media job to sensationalize news, its our job to read the little details to understand what the truth really is. Cancer cure, pffff...i hope people don't start injecting salt into their veins because this is what the news is implying.

Also no offense but i expected the people here to be really mature but we still see the conspiracy theorists here. Nobody is hiding anything and the govt or any research company is not hiding a CURE for cancer, cancer is not common cold its a very deadly disease where your whole body breaks down. If it was possible to just take a few tablets like an antibiotic and kill the cancerous cells, trust me they would have made it already. Some people don't even know what the heck cancer actually do, your healthy cells turn into cancerous so even if you kill them, you still lose your body, your cells and you still die. The cure for cancer would achieve A) Kill cancerous cells, B) Turn cancerous cells into healthy cells C) Alter your genetic makeup to stop producing new cancerous cells, D) Speed up your cells dividing speed to fill up the empty space created by dead healthy cells so you don't die. Easy peasy huh ?.

Actually that is what current chemotherapy does, kills the cancer cells in its tracks before you "lose your body aka healthy cells". Too much of your body gets eaten by cancerous cells and just killing cancerous cells you will still die because in those cancer cells is somewhat of your body left that functions barely. Also very few would know that cancer cells RESIST dying just like bacteria, that makes things hard. How do you cure something that resists and evolves at faster speeds than normal cells, cancer cells are nothing but next step in evolution gone wrong but those nasty ****** know how to survive and resist dying because they evolve to do that.And even if you kill them you still die, that makes it so difficult which is why if diagnosed early the chances of survival are higher because less of your body has become cancerous and you can kill them safely, remember that these cancer cells are still your own body unlike bacteria/viruses which are outside entities and you can safely kill them (viruses are somewhat of an exception though especially HIV)

Please don't become the youtube comments section guys, you guys know better and there is no such conspiracy going on. If there was and there was a cure for cancer then there would be cure for ageing too because then we would know how to manipulate cells at our will and only those that we don't like will be killed. But its not possible, at least with the current knowledge we have, oncology is still at its fancy compared to other fields of biology.

[ 3 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439181].message }}

Raydal

12 years ago

This was a very interesting view of cancer--breakthrough if you ask me.
Shows that the environment of cells causes cancer not the cells themselves!

http://www.ted.com/talks/mina_bissel...ding_of_cancer

-Ray Edwards

Thanks

Signature

The most powerful and concentrated copywriting training online today bar none! Autoresponder Writing Email SECRETS

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439229].message }}

mkgg

12 years ago

We do not have health care now. We have a medical industrial complex. Name ONE "cure" that has been found in the last 60 years that has been allowed on the market - you can't. It hasn't happened. What has happened is "drugs for life" to "control" or, in the case of cancer, temporary fixes that leave the threat of the disease's return if someone doesn't learn how to otherwise prevent resurgence.

Lets see

Organ transplant (you'd be surprised how many lives it saves) - CURE
New antibiotics (MILLIONS OF LIVES SAVED each day) the research has been slow lately but i can name at least 4 new antibiotics off the TOP OF MY HEAD right now that were discovered/made in last decade. Quality of life improved - CURE
New ANTIVIRALS - CURE
New immuno-suppressants/modulators - again life savers. - CURE

The list is so long but of course its easier to ignore them because how easy that has made our lives that we don't even think of them anymore. If some evil company wanted to keep them for their profits, we would still be living in an era of penicillin and i don't know what people tried to do with even the most simplest of ailments then.

We aren't dealing with easier diseases anymore, just a century ago do you know what killed humans or what their life expectancy was ?. Pfff, do you know how much antibiotics you need for black death ? just one tablet of tetracycline and you're CURED. The diseases that killed humans a century ago aren't even affecting them anymore or cured so easily, a century later we may have a cure for cancer or maybe not. But i can tell you there wasn't lack of ignorant people a century back and there isn't now. Those ignorants worshipped sun or thoughts some ghosts were the cause of their trouble or whatever they thought was powerful than them, these days we have conspiracy theorists who think Illuminati has the answer to every human disease and problem but is holding out the solution for themselves LOL

[ 2 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439238].message }}

AnnaMolly

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mkgg

Lets see

Organ transplant (you'd be surprised how many lives it saves) - CURE
New antibiotics (MILLIONS OF LIVES SAVED each day) the research has been slow lately but i can name at least 4 new antibiotics off the TOP OF MY HEAD right now that were discovered/made in last decade. Quality of life improved - CURE
New ANTIVIRALS - CURE
New immuno-suppressants/modulators - again life savers. - CURE

The list is so long but of course its easier to ignore them because how easy that has made our lives that we don't even think of them anymore. If some evil company wanted to keep them for their profits, we would still be living in an era of penicillin and i don't know what people tried to do with even the most simplest of ailments then.

We aren't dealing with easier diseases anymore, just a century ago do you know what killed humans or what their life expectancy was ?. Pfff, do you know how much antibiotics you need for black death ? just one tablet of tetracycline and you're CURED. The diseases that killed humans a century ago aren't even affecting them anymore or cured so easily, a century later we may have a cure for cancer or maybe not. But i can tell you there wasn't lack of ignorant people a century back and there isn't now. Those ignorants worshipped sun or thoughts some ghosts were the cause of their trouble or whatever they thought was powerful than them, these days we have conspiracy theorists who think Illuminati has the answer to every human disease and problem but is holding out the solution for themselves LOL

I wouldn't call an organ transplant a cure. It may prolong your life, but you will never be the same.

bottom line s cancer is new and it is because of the chemicals we put in our body. GMOs, EMF radiation, pesticides, chemical preservatives in all processed food, and so on.

You cannot eat a modern diet and expect to be healthy. You must eat natural foods, grass feed and free range meat, natural vegetable, and stay away from anything GMO or processed.

Cancer can be prevented, and it starts with your diet. That also goes with most other diseases. ANY disease can be cured via diet in my opinion.

The fact is quality of life is falling FAST and not improving. The past decade especially, more disease than ever before, more health issues than ever before, more cancer than ever before. Cure? I don't think so.

[ 5 ] Thanks
3 replies

Signature

WSO - $9k per month in 60 days with no capital? For real.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439262].message }}

Karen Blundell 12 years ago

I lost both my parents to cancer and my Godmother (my mom's sister) as well - so this subject is very near and dear to my heart.

when I suggested taking my mother off all drugs because her immune system was so damaged that open sores on her legs wouldn't heal, I was met with all kinds of opposition. I wanted to at least try giving her high doses of vitamin C so that her immune system could be strengthened - I was told that it was too late for her - I was bullied into acceptance.

That will never happen again.

If I knew I had cancer - the last place I would go to would be a mainstream doctor for treatment. But that is just my opinion and I feel I have the right to decide what kind of alternative treatment I want especially if I'm willing to pay for it.

let's try to keep this thread civil - @mkgg - don't be calling my intelligent friends conspiracy theorists - they are not - they simply don't drink the kool-aid.
- [ 3 ] Thanks
- 1 reply
Signature
---------------
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439307].message }}
- Cali16 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Karen Blundell
  
  I lost both my parents to cancer and my Godmother (my mom's sister) as well - so this subject is very near and dear to my heart.
  
  It is to me as well, Karen. I lost my father to kidney cancer. The doctors initially told him chemo and radiation wouldn't help, then a few months later said they might give him a few more months. He declined, knowing full well that he didn't want to endure the suffering they'd cause just to live a little longer. He was still able to play golf up to a month before he passed.
  
  I lost a sister to the most aggressive form of leukemia in 2010. My oldest sister is a breast cancer survivor (over a decade now), and, fortunately, doing well. I lost a grandmother to lymphoma and an aunt to colon cancer. Considering my family history, I sometimes wonder if cancer, for me, is inevitable at some point.
  
  I agree that nutrition, diet, and lifestyle play a major role in causing cancer as well as preventing it, and in some cases, curing it. I've made major changes in my diet as well as the products I use in recent years, especially since my sister's horrific battle with leukemia 4 years ago. If I'm ever diagnosed with cancer I'm not sure I'd want to go the traditional medicine route either. Hopefully that's a decision I won't have to make for a very long time, if ever.
  
  I despise the use of genetic modification in our country, and the continued failed efforts to require that foods containing GMOs have labels indicating such. Europe and other countries have banned them for good reason. They didn't do it on a whim. Sadly, though, even if GMOs were banned tomorrow, the damage has been done. That can of worms has been opened; the impact will continue for a very long time. And GMOs are just part of the problem, as others have mentioned.
  
  I'd love to see this latest research prove to be promising, but I won't hold my breath. As for conspiracy theories - perhaps conspiracy isn't the right word, but deep pockets have a far too powerful say in the direction that research takes as well as the bills that are passed or quashed that directly impact medical treatment and our food supply.
  
  Making money is sadly often far more important than doing things that save lives, prevent illness, and improve health overall. Big Pharma makes millions (if not billions) from current cancer treatments alone. Less expensive (not to mention far less invasive) procedures and cures certainly would not be in their best interest.
  
  [ 4 ] Thanks
  
  Signature
  If you don't face your fears, the only thing you'll ever see is what's in your comfort zone. ~Anne McClain, astronaut
  
  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9440169].message }}

Claude Whitacre

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnnaMolly

bottom line s cancer is new and it is because of the chemicals we put in our body. GMOs, EMF radiation, pesticides, chemical preservatives in all processed food, and so on.
.

That must be true, because 150 years ago, when none of this existed, there was no cancer.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

â€œDo not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise; seek what they sought.â€ - Matsuo Basho

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439332].message }}

ThomM 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

That must be true, because 150 years ago, when none of this existed, there was no cancer.

Claude there is a very strong correlation between the increased use of GMOs, EMF radiation, pesticides, chemical preservatives in all processed food, and the rise of many diseases. Now there are studies that are proving those things are causing the rise.
Go back to before gmo's and look at the number of Autism cases and look at it now.
Look at how early children are maturing in this country as compared to countries that have banned rBGH use in cows.
Those diseases may have already existed, but not at the rate that they do now.
Do GMO Foods Cause Autism? Read About the GMO Crops Autism Connection | The Liberty Beacon

Factors Behind Early Puberty in Girls
- [ 4 ] Thanks
Signature

Life: Nature's way of keeping meat fresh
Getting old ain't for sissy's
As you are I was, as I am you will be
You can't fix stupid, but you can always out smart it.
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439378].message }}

TimPhelan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

That must be true, because 150 years ago, when none of this existed, there was no cancer.

Well, you are pretty close there Claude. The oldest evidence of cancer was from 3,200 years ago, so you are only off by 3050 years.

Oldest Evidence of Human Cancer Discovered in African Tomb - ABC News

ps... I know you were being sarcastic.

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Over 50 Dating

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439535].message }}

ThomM

12 years ago

I would do nutritional therapy. Max Gerson revolutionized cancer nutritional therapy and has clinics world wide. There are some good videos on Netflix.

By the time my wife's cancer was properly diagnosed it had traveled to far to be curable by any means. But the first thing we did was go out and buy every book we could find on nutrition and diet for cancer. We weren't looking to cure it (though we both always had hope) but where trying to make her as healthy as possible to fight the cancer and her treatments. The one thing that always stands out in my mind was how spinach effected her. She would go from not having the energy to get out of bed to wanting to go to the mall after eating a fresh spinach salad.
Whenever I have an issue I always look towards what I'm eating for the cause and the cure.
In fact I started eating coconut oil as a preventative to Alzheimer which eventually lead to using coconut oil to strengthen the disks in my back and keep my degenerative disk disease in check.

[ 5 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Life: Nature's way of keeping meat fresh
Getting old ain't for sissy's
As you are I was, as I am you will be
You can't fix stupid, but you can always out smart it.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439868].message }}

msdobe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

By the time my wife's cancer was properly diagnosed it had traveled to far to be curable by any means. But the first thing we did was go out and buy every book we could find on nutrition and diet for cancer. We weren't looking to cure it (though we both always had hope) but where trying to make her as healthy as possible to fight the cancer and her treatments. The one thing that always stands out in my mind was how spinach effected her. She would go from not having the energy to get out of bed to wanting to go to the mall after eating a fresh spinach salad.

I'm really sorry to hear about your wife's cancer.

I've watched a number of movies on Netflix about health and nutrition and, whereas I really thought I was fairly knowledgeable in that area, after watching those movies I found out how little I really knew... and they were a real eye-opener.

One thing I remember that really sticks in my mind was when they said 'we seem to think of the body as being compartmentalized.' In other words we take 1 drug (or vitamin) to treat 1 thing, and that's totally the wrong attitude. If we're deficient in 1 supplement it can affect numerous bodily functions, or if we have a problem in one area, it can affect other areas as well.

An example is impotence... which is one of the first signs of cardiac problems. Instead of treating the patient for heart problems today's doctor treats the symptom. Not smart...
Jenny

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

If you can read this.... thank a teacher.
If you can read this in English... thank a vet!

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439929].message }}

ThomM

12 years ago

Originally Posted by msdobe

I'm really sorry to hear about your wife's cancer.

I've watched a number of movies on Netflix about health and nutrition and, whereas I really thought I was fairly knowledgeable in that area, after watching those movies I found out how little I really knew... and they were a real eye-opener.

One thing I remember that really sticks in my mind was when they said 'we seem to think of the body as being compartmentalized.' In other words we take 1 drug (or vitamin) to treat 1 thing, and that's totally the wrong attitude. If we're deficient in 1 supplement it can affect numerous bodily functions, or if we have a problem in one area, it can affect other areas as well.

An example is impotence... which is one of the first signs of cardiac problems. Instead of treating the patient for heart problems today's doctor treats the symptom. Not smart...
Jenny

Thanks Jenny.
Yeah that "compartmentalized" crap is just that, crap.
Whenever I have a problem in conjunction with looking for what to eat I also look at what the possible causes could be and what I should eat to prevent the cause.
Of course what you eat is only part of the equation. For example I found out when I had the degenartive disk disease that prolonged sitting was the main cause. After I had surgery the doctor told me to not sit for long periods and to walk as much as possible. It was after it acted up a second time that I also looked into what to eat to help cure it.
Shingles is another example. Now there is a vaccine out to prevent Shingles. A friend of mine just got it. He asked me if I thought about getting it and I said no, I'd rather work on keeping my immune system healthy which is natures way of suppressing Herpes Zoster virus.
No matter what approach you take to an illness you can't put blinders on and depend on just one thing.

[ 2 ] Thanks

Signature

Life: Nature's way of keeping meat fresh
Getting old ain't for sissy's
As you are I was, as I am you will be
You can't fix stupid, but you can always out smart it.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9440103].message }}

mkgg

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AnnaMolly

I wouldn't call an organ transplant a cure. It may prolong your life, but you will never be the same.

bottom line s cancer is new and it is because of the chemicals we put in our body. GMOs, EMF radiation, pesticides, chemical preservatives in all processed food, and so on.

You cannot eat a modern diet and expect to be healthy. You must eat natural foods, grass feed and free range meat, natural vegetable, and stay away from anything GMO or processed.

Cancer can be prevented, and it starts with your diet. That also goes with most other diseases. ANY disease can be cured via diet in my opinion.

The fact is quality of life is falling FAST and not improving. The past decade especially, more disease than ever before, more health issues than ever before, more cancer than ever before. Cure? I don't think so.

True but depending on how close a match you find and the organ transplanted, you don't even need drugs. There are people who have lived more than 40-50 years of life after a transplant so its a cure. Maybe not for every type of transplant but you can't deny it, before organ transplants it was certain death.

I totally agree about the diet, it surprises me how easily GMOs find their way into markets when there is so little known about them. That is no conspiracy and i truly agree the people with power are responsible for this.

let's try to keep this thread civil - @mkgg - don't be calling my intelligent friends conspiracy theorists - they are not - they simply don't drink the kool-aid.

I was simply offering a differing POV that comes from actually observing and seeing things with my own eyes and meeting some of the brightest minds than reading a sensationalized news that is selling nothing more than a false hope to generate some readership. I guess it makes some sleep better knowing there is a cure for something scary than simply admitting there are some things that we still don't know crap about despite our best efforts.

Also i am not saying this to win some stupid argument but if your family had death because of cancers then you seriously need to check yourself depending on type of cancer as some are very genetic and run in families. I seriously hope that doesn't ever happen but what you said should raise serious concerns.

Anyway i am out. Truth be told i am not even in the position to be an authority on the subject as oncology is not my area, i touch some immunology in my micro classes and based on that, ^^i can tell you that our immune system is so sophisticated that it tries its best and is successful at that but the threat it deals with are no joke either, when it fails, it fails hard then it needs serious help which we haven't been able to provide as far as cancer is concerned. No conspiracy going on, just really hard science going on that needs knowledge to crack.

[ 2 ] Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439478].message }}

msdobe 12 years ago

Part of the article also says:
The researchers have overcome this by developing the synthetic way for transporting the ions but unfortunately this also destroys healthy cells which would have to be overcome for it to be useful in treating cancer. So it's really not available yet.

I absolutely believe in alternative therapies to treat cancer. Unfortunately these treatments aren't available in the US and other 'modern' countries where, believe it or not, they're against the law. This is why people have to go to Mexico or other nations to get treated. Anyone think this might be due to the BIG drug companies??? They're the ones with the big bucks that control how cancer is treated.

I would do nutritional therapy. Max Gerson revolutionized cancer nutritional therapy and has clinics world wide. There are some good videos on Netflix.
Jenny
- [ 1 ] Thanks
Signature

If you can read this.... thank a teacher.
If you can read this in English... thank a vet!
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439528].message }}

HeySal

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mkgg

True but depending on how close a match you find and the organ transplanted, you don't even need drugs. There are people who have lived more than 40-50 years of life after a transplant so its a cure. Maybe not for every type of transplant but you can't deny it, before organ transplants it was certain death.

And why is there such a need for transplant now? Could it be because several of our leading pain relievers that you can buy right on the shelf are proven to be the leading causes of kidney failure? Advil was taken off the market - went through lawsuits - yet got back into the market even though it's known to cause kidney failure. Hmmmm.

I totally agree about the diet, it surprises me how easily GMOs find their way into markets when there is so little known about them. That is no conspiracy and i truly agree the people with power are responsible for this.

There is not "little" known about them. There's been enough studies about the damage they do - to humans, to the animals fed them, and to the bees because of the toxic pesticides used with them, that whole countries are banning them due to the toxic nature of the GMOs. 2 cities in the US now have also banned the used of the toxins to save our bee colonies. Monsanto's reaction when the research company found conclusively that glysophate kills bees was to buy the company and silence the research.

I was simply offering a differing POV that comes from actually observing and seeing things with my own eyes and meeting some of the brightest minds than reading a sensationalized news that is selling nothing more than a false hope to generate some readership. I guess it makes some sleep better knowing there is a cure for something scary than simply admitting there are some things that we still don't know crap about despite our best efforts.

I don't need fluff to make me sleep. I do the deep research and would rather know than be "comforted". Those "conspiracy theories" I followed to save my dog from cancer weren't from Alex Jones -- they were from PubMed. They worked for my sister's breast cancer, too. Sleep tight.

Also i am not saying this to win some stupid argument but if your family had death because of cancers then you seriously need to check yourself depending on type of cancer as some are very genetic and run in families. I seriously hope that doesn't ever happen but what you said should raise serious concerns.

Anyway i am out. Truth be told i am not even in the position to be an authority on the subject as oncology is not my area, i touch some immunology in my micro classes and based on that, ^^i can tell you that our immune system is so sophisticated that it tries its best and is successful at that but the threat it deals with are no joke either, when it fails, it fails hard then it needs serious help which we haven't been able to provide as far as cancer is concerned. No conspiracy going on, just really hard science going on that needs knowledge to crack.

So why are immune systems failing at the rate they are. Learn to ask the right questions, and the answers aren't as complicated as you would think.

Alexa - I understand your perspective, and, of course, respect that progress has been allowed - but when I say "cure" - I don't mean progress. I mean "do this and it kills that" -- such as penicillin cures syphilis.

[ 4 ] Thanks

Signature

Sal
When the Roads and Paths end, learn to guide yourself through the wilderness
Beyond the Path

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9439975].message }}

Dain Supero

12 years ago

Treatment does not equal prevention or cure.

Chemotherapy = treatment.

Diet = prevention, reversal/cure.

Different routes entirely.

Thanks

Signature

Visit http://www.bettermindbodyself.com for proven advice and techniques to elevate your mind, body, and self-image.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9440029].message }}

Salt injection 'kills cancer cells' by causing them to self destruct.

Trending Topics

Google Adding Ads to AI?

What if we banned Google?

Local SEO for Healthcare Clients in 2026 - Looking for Advice & Real World Insights

I burned through a $550 budget

How to make affiliates sell my product??