Jack The Ripper finally unmasked?

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Jack the Ripper unmasked: How amateur sleuth used DNA breakthrough to identify Britain's most notorious criminal 126 years after string of terrible murders | Mail Online

So it was Kosminski.

-Chris
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    Wow. What a stunning article. Thanks for sharing this one. Most interesting thing I've seen today.
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    CNN is on CNN and it's not official either.
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Yeah it's probably him, but like a few people in the comments said it will never be 100% because he could have been a client before the murder took place.

    Obviously him though.

    The comment about Polish serial killers coming over and stealing British serial killers jobs cracked me up.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      The comment about Polish serial killers coming over and stealing British serial killers jobs cracked me up.
      This comment summed it up for me:

      This has been ' solved' umpteen times, and on each occasion there is a book deal involved.
      Also The Daily Mail is not exactly the most credible of media outlets.

      Interesting, nevertheless.
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      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      The comment about Polish serial killers coming over and stealing British serial killers jobs cracked me up.
      LOL - one for Nigel Farage, there.

      I wonder how many times during the last 130 years the Daily/Sunday Mail has "exclusively revealed the true identity of Jack the Ripper, the serial killer responsible for at least five grisly murders in Whitechapel", and how many different people it's "conclusively" been?

      (I always wonder, seeing "Mail" articles here, whether those not from UK quite appreciate that the standards of journalistic integrity involved there are on a par with those of the National Enquirer, on the other side of the pond.)

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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
    Big Deal... I'm more interested on finding out about the Zodiac Killer. Oh, and what season of CSI did they figure this out?
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    You could shoot this down in a SECOND in the US with 4 magic words!

    1. Chain of CUSTODY!
    2. Provenance

    I have to hand it to him though, he didn't pick the 2 main suspects. One theory, for example, was that the killer left LOTS of evidence and it indicated that he was a freemason and, having done that, the person in charge of the investigation, ALSO a freemason, removed the evidence and really didn't try to solve the case.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      What always fascinated me is WHY people are still so interested in Jack the Ripper. He didn't kill that many people and it was so long ago - yet he earned a place in history that many serial killers don't have. Must have been the dark alley and black cloak....at least that was in all the movies about it.

      Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Victims

      The official blurb being curated today refers to "Kosmanski, an insane Polish Jew". So it wasn't the "raging British Protestant" or the "wild-eyed French Catholic"? Sorry - I found that description hilarious.

      Edit: the idea a shawl with blood stains on it was passed down in a family for over 100 years and never washed is a bit much to believe.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What always fascinated me is WHY people are still so interested in Jack the Ripper. He didn't kill that many people and it was so long ago - yet he earned a place in history that many serial killers don't have. Must have been the dark alley and black cloak....at least that was in all the movies about it.
        He kills prostitutes with surgical precision. Today, we call that as a back story. But yeah, the fascination ends there. This was something unheard of during that time. What's his motive? CI channel would tell us more next week. (ho-hum)
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          This is a joke, of course it is. I'm sure we had extensive samples of blood and the DNA from known killers back in the 19th century to make a positive id. NOT!
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            This is a joke, of course it is. I'm sure we had extensive samples of blood and the DNA from known killers back in the 19th century to make a positive id. NOT!
            Their CLAIM is they used mitochondrial DNA. The claim IS that that changes little, if at all. Of course, it can NOT be as true as they claim. Think about it, that would mean that NOBODY ever had the same maternal line, because if they did, mitochondrial DNA would not be different between two people born around the same time.

            Of course, if everyone had different maternal lines, then the size of the population would be limited to less than the current size, since it was earlier so much smaller.

            I always contended that evolution generally requires TWO creatures to evolve, and THAT could be seen as damaging to evolution. "scientists" want it to be ONE. The idea of different maternal lines would make that TWO more like 2 MILLION+.

            SO, while I will admit to the chance they could somewhat go back a generation, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc... would obviously get progressively HARDER!

            As for washing, that IS interesting. I mean why keep it dirty for so long?

            As for the Jack The Ripper case, there are TWO conspiracy theories about it, and they think the police were involved in a coverup. Those types of cases always get a following.

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            • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
              Let's have a closer look at that mitochondrial stuff.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...drial-dna.html

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              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Their CLAIM is they used mitochondrial DNA. The claim IS that that changes little, if at all. Of course, it can NOT be as true as they claim. Think about it, that would mean that NOBODY ever had the same maternal line, because if they did, mitochondrial DNA would not be different between two people born around the same time.

              Of course, if everyone had different maternal lines, then the size of the population would be limited to less than the current size, since it was earlier so much smaller.

              I always contended that evolution generally requires TWO creatures to evolve, and THAT could be seen as damaging to evolution. "scientists" want it to be ONE. The idea of different maternal lines would make that TWO more like 2 MILLION+.

              SO, while I will admit to the chance they could somewhat go back a generation, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc... would obviously get progressively HARDER!

              As for washing, that IS interesting. I mean why keep it dirty for so long?

              As for the Jack The Ripper case, there are TWO conspiracy theories about it, and they think the police were involved in a coverup. Those types of cases always get a following.

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      • Profile picture of the author Chuckles88
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        What always fascinated me is WHY people are still so interested in Jack the Ripper.
        The evidence pointed at a foreign born Jewish man. I think that the number of news articles over the years have mainly been to conjure up non-Jewish suspects to muddy the water.

        There was the writing found on a wall, by a victim saying something like "The Jews are the ones that will not be blamed for nothing" (but in worse English). A couple of suspects were very violent Jews. You have the guy now claimed to be the killer and also Joseph Silver, who had a police record in South Africa for attacking women prostitutes.

        Silver was later exectued in Poland around the end of the WW1. Jews started revolutions in Russia, Hungary, Bavaria, etc. around this time. They were also commonly used as spies for all sides in WW1 (sometimes several sides at once - the last French Ambassador to the Russian court has something about this in his memoir). So he could have met his violent end for either of these shades of shiftiness.
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    I found it interesting and credible enough not to dismiss it outright. I'd like it to know the verdict of a peer review.
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  • Profile picture of the author Isabella
    The funny thing with how the news came up, I read comments from teenagers (via Livejournal) and it was kind of funny. Majority of them were disappointed with the news mainly because the mystery of who Jack the Ripper was now revealed and now they don't give a damn about the guy anymore. Though it did happen a long time ago and most of the stories or crime scenes today base their stories on this guy.

    No saying though if this is all true or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Someone is saying it's a German who floated between Germany, Britain, and America at the times of the murders. There are identical killings in Germany and the US around the same time.

    It's funny hearing all these stories come out, simply because they're pointless as the case can never be proven.
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