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The Debate About GMO Safety Is Over, Thanks To A New Trillion-Meal Study - Forbes

there should be more GMO, not less!
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Really?

      Talk about wishful thinking!

      All I have to say about the first half of the title "The Debate About GMO Safety Is Over" is, No it's not!

      And to the second half, "Thanks To A New Trillion-Meal Study", No thanks!

      It seems to me that spending a trillion dollars on other health issues would have been more effective for the human population.


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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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    the next US president should remove GMO labels.

    or rather he should randomly put GMO label on "organic" (wink wink) foood and remove some GMO labels on GMO. This way, he could go in his state of the union:

    "Haha, you've eaten GMOs for twenty years and then you didn't get cancer, I was right all along."
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    A dozen people against one guy and not one of them takes the time to read the article I've mentioned.

    Are you guys that emotionally threatened by the idea of GMOs? Look: somneone in your camp even made their kids into a suicide bomber.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      A dozen people against one guy and not one of them takes the time to read the article I've mentioned.

      Are you guys that emotionally threatened by the idea of GMOs? Look: somneone in your camp even made their kids into a suicide bomber.

      How do you know that?
      I read the article before my first post. The guys an idiot.
      If you believe gmos are safe for animal feed or anything else you're an idiot also.
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      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Look: somneone in your camp even made their kids into a suicide bomber.

      Suicide bomber? ... looks more like a popcorn maker to me
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      A dozen people against one guy and not one of them takes the time to read the article I've mentioned.
      For your information, I read the article in full and I still call bull crap!

      Growing up my grandpa called me a real little princess, my dad called me princess, and I was named after an Indian princess in a movie my parents watched while I was still in the making.

      So I could say I am a real princess and publish an article on the web stating I am a real princess but that wouldn't make it true. Or do you believe everything you read on the net is true?

      As for the trillion dollars, I was being conservative as to the price of meals as they could very well be cheaper in other countries. Expand your thought processing ability and you may just get it.


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  • Profile picture of the author HN
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    It doesn't matter if you read one article or a thousand if you haven't done any experiments yourself.
    Have you?
    Get some hamsters and feed them GMO. Then talk.
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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      Originally Posted by HN View Post

      It doesn't matter if you read one article or a thousand if you haven't done any experiments yourself.
      Have you?
      Get some hamsters and feed them GMO. Then talk.
      y u mad tho
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        @socialentry I read the article -

        and I don't believe the so-called studies -
        the thing to remember is that the media can be bought by any corporation with deep pockets. Bogus studies can be done and results can be altered to suit.

        Basically, I distrust the media and don't believe everything I read - and that goes for both sides of this GMO debate -

        the best thing anyone can do is take just about everything you read with a grain of salt - in my opinion, that is the secret of keeping sane in an increasingly insane world.

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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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    Wow. Uncouthness have invaded my peaceful thread very fast.

    The opposition is visibly upset and have resorted to personal attacks due to their lack of substantive arguments against GMOs.

    Thank you to all who will keep the WF free of personal attacks.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Wow. Uncouthness have invaded my peaceful thread very fast.

      The opposition is visibly upset and have resorted to personal attacks due to their lack of substantive arguments against GMOs.

      Thank you to all who will keep the WF free of personal attacks.
      I gave links showing the harmful effects of gmo's.
      There are numerous studies that prove that article wrong.
      Seems you're ignoring those as usual.
      By the way if you think I'm upset, well that's just further proof of my idiot theory.
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    Whats the line in that John Mayer song? "...when they own the information, they can bend it all they want"
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Do you know how many hundreds of millions of dollars Monsanto and the processed food industry are spending right now to keep you from knowing the harm of GMO's? I would love to know how much this person made for writing this crap.

    It seems that every time someone wants to lie to us now we hear "the debate is over". In this case - yes it is.
    GMOs do not yield more crops per acre.
    GMO's result in MORE pesticide use.
    The pesticides used for GMO are killing bees and the bacteria that makes soil. If you test any portion of fields with GMOs planted you will find it void of life other than the GMO crop.
    GMOs have been tested on animals and the result is huge tumors.
    The incidents of cancer are much higher in areas where GMOs are planted.
    GMOs have caused a terrible super-weed problem.

    Why do these companies fight so hard to force GMOs on you? Why do they spend hundreds of millions to deny you labeling that tells you what your food is made of? Why does Monsanto actively spend money to kill organic farming practices - to make heirloom seeds unavailable to the public?

    Monsanto is like a virus that's too strong for it's hosts. It's going to force it's products down its supporters throats until it kills off all of its supporters. Now that's just a special kind of stupid.
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      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Another idiot. For example
      The authors point out that the same testing is not required for conventional breeding or even mutation farming. It also cannot be assumed that such techniques are without risk.
      There have been instances where plants bred using classical techniques have been unsuitable for human consumption. For example, the poison α-solanine, a glycoalkaloid, was unintentionally increased to unacceptable levels in certain varieties of potato through plant breeding resulting in certain cultivars being withdrawn from the U.S. and Swedish markets due to frequently exceeding the upper safe limit for total glycoalkaloid content.
      Let's see they discovered the increase of a poison in potatoes through TESTING. So we know one statement he's making is a lie.
      When he says this "There have been instances where plants bred using classical techniques have been unsuitable for human consumption." is he using it as an excuse for gmo's being unsuitable for human consumption or an example of how if a food item is found to be unsafe it should be discontinued.
      Both these idiots are just using information supplied and approved by the bio-tech industry. There's real unbiased information out there on the real effects of growing gmos, feeding them to livestock, and feeding them to humans.
      You can continue to pump out this garbage all you want and cry that uncouthness has invaded your peaceful thread. IF you believe it you're an idiot, if you're trying to provoke people, then you're still an idiot.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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    Features of denialism:

    1) Cast doubt on the science.
    2) Question the scientists’ motives and integrity.
    3) Magnify any disagreements among the scientists; cite gadflies as authorities.
    4) Exaggerate the potential for harm from the science.
    5) Appeal to the importance of personal freedom.
    6) Object that acceptance of the science would repudiate some key philosophy.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Features of denialism:

      1) Cast doubt on the science.
      2) Question the scientists' motives and integrity.
      3) Magnify any disagreements among the scientists; cite gadflies as authorities.
      4) Exaggerate the potential for harm from the science.
      5) Appeal to the importance of personal freedom.
      6) Object that acceptance of the science would repudiate some key philosophy.
      Yep exactly what the gmo advocates do.
      You see gmo's aren't science. In fact they try to circumvent all the actual science of growing crops like agronomy, botany, and soil science.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Every independent study of GMOs proves that they are deadly. So how is siding with people not funded by the the foxes guarding the hen houses "non-scientific"?

    It's real simple. You want GMOs? Fine -
    don't grow them where I'm exposed to the tons of really poisonous pesticides that are required for them,
    Do not get them near organic fields where they can contaminate other crops.
    LABEL the damned foods with GMOs in them so I have as much choice about what I eat as you do.

    If they are as damned harmless as you want to think they are - why is it that the only ones saying so are those funded BY the GMO industry? Why are they trying to take my right to choose? If they are so harmless what's the problem with labeling them? (and don't say cost - we've already debunked the cost of changing a damned label. Any real marketer can figure that simple shit out)
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    'We now have a large set of data, both experimental and observational, showing that genetically modified feed is safe and nutritionally equivalent to non-GMO feed.'

    What a bunch of B---S--- Who actually believes that crap?
    Just read part of the following article and see if you REALLY want to eat GMO food. If you want to poison your body, go ahead... be my guest. But don't expect the rest of us to follow suit!!

    Meet the New Monsanto: Dow Chemical... and Their New 'Agent Orange' Crops*|*Andrew Kimbrell
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    Also wanted to add... I'll never forget the first time I had an organic apple. Couldn't believe the taste, it was like it was a totally different fruit. Haven't been able to eat a non-organic apple since.

    Oh and, btw, do you like chicken? Chickens have now been 'engineered' to grow in about a third to half the time it used to take before killing them. Consequently they grow so fast that many times their legs can't support their weight and they're laying in their feces all day.

    yummy chicken breast!
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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    The rection of the rednecks in this thread is hilarious. lol

    At first they go when they see the articles I've posted:
    Then they go:
    "they're LYING. No no no! You're a monsanto shill it's poison! "

    looooooooooooooooooool
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      The rection of the rednecks in this thread is hilarious. lol



      Then they go:
      "they're LYING. No no no! You're a monsanto shill it's poison! "

      looooooooooooooooooool
      wow! who are you calling a redneck? What is your definition of a redneck, I'd really like to know?
      I am actually very much a city woman. Now I live in a smaller city - I worked as the Website programmer for 8 years for a local heirloom seed company. I learned a lot about organics - our region is very much into it - the Niagara region of Ontario is a beautiful area, with lots of farms, orchards, and wineries - it's a grower's paradise. And most people in this area are anti-GMO - it has nothing to do with being a redneck, and everything to do with growing quality, safe food.

      If you support GMO foods, you support the destruction of the world. There is a reason that much of Europe has boycotted Monsanto and GMO foods - please educate yourself and don't believe the main stream North American media which, in the case of the article you first pointed out, was bought and paid for by the corporations who stand to gain from the production of GMO foods.
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        Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

        wow! who are you calling a redneck? What is your definition of a redneck, I'd really like to know?
        I am actually very much a city woman. Now I live in a smaller city - I worked as the Website programmer for 8 years for a local heirloom seed company. I learned a lot about organics - our region is very much into it - the Niagara region of Ontario is a beautiful area, with lots of farms, orchards, and wineries - it's a grower's paradise. And most people in this area are anti-GMO - it has nothing to do with being a redneck, and everything to do with growing quality, safe food.

        If you support GMO foods, you support the destruction of the world. There is a reason that much of Europe has boycotted Monsanto and GMO foods - please educate yourself and don't believe the main stream North American media which, in the case of the article you first pointed out, was bought and paid for by the corporations who stand to gain from the production of GMO foods.
        Unless OP is just trying to be provocative, then self education- in his case - is the problem. Unfortunately.

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    Looks like the guy in that painting ate too many GMOs.
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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      Originally Posted by KateHunter View Post

      Looks like the guy in that painting ate too many GMOs.
      loooooooooooooooooool,

      Edward Much painted the scream in 1893 *** BEFORE *** GMOs were ever invented.

      Are you guys ever done auto-pwning yourselves?
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        I'm sorry I must have missed the study that proves that humor has to be logical. Made you smile though.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          The rection of the rednecks in this thread is hilarious. lol
          Then they go:
          "they're LYING. No no no! You're a monsanto shill it's poison! "

          looooooooooooooooooool
          Actually the idea that the idiot who started this thread thinks they've made people angry is hysterical. Personally I don't think you've got the brains to be a monsanto shill. But if it makes you feel good to think that, then have fun.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            The guys an idiot.
            The Real Cost of GM Animal Feed? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
            Farmers Report Better Animal Health with Non-GMO Feed
            Ex-Biotech Scientist Gives TED Talk on the Dangers of GMOs

            Most important is the effects of growing gmos on the soil.
            Suffocating the Soil: An "Unanticipated Effect" of GM Crops
            The Environmental Impact of GMOs | One Green Planet
            and more
            Monsanto Loses GMO Permit In Mexico - Judge Sides With The Bees | Collective-Evolution

            C,mon, lets be fair, this guy either has...

            • Serious stocks in GMO?
            • A lot of friends, who make a lot of money in GMO's?
            • Is a Troll doing his best to make out this stuff is safe?
            • Is an idiot?


            At least he is well educated, l have gone to a lot of forums concerning, free energy and without fail there is a least one, individual who goes ape-sh** over proving it is nonsense!

            Even this forum had one, that tried to make out we were all idiots for believing in it!

            A few of us chewed him out, and he slid back into the primordial slime!

            The real concern with these well educated trolls, that lurk around popular forums is suppressing truth, or they are scared shitless that if free energy gets a foothold, (like electricity did) they or their oil stocks could plummet!

            But GMO's, big money, intelligent trolls!

            I am afraid this is the least likely place to find over-tech, fluoridated, zombies!

            Have a nice day!

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Actually the idea that the idiot who started this thread thinks they've made people angry is hysterical. Personally I don't think you've got the brains to be a monsanto shill. But if it makes you feel good to think that, then have fun.

            Priceless!!


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    Wow there, who is the troll?

    I have been civil throughout this whole discourse. The same cannot be said for the opposing parties.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Wow there, who is the troll?

      I have been civil throughout this whole discourse. The same cannot be said for the opposing parties.

      Okay, you tell me...

      Troll definition - One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

      It is no well kept secret that we have been discussing the dangers of GMOs for quite some time here. It is also obvious to anyone who can read that the majority of us here are anti-Gmo. You can read, right?

      I'm sorry, but the handwriting is on the wall of who here was trolling with their post.

      So have you figured out who the real troll is yet?


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      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Okay, you tell me...

        Troll definition - One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

        It is no well kept secret that we have been discussing the dangers of GMOs for quite some time here. It is also obvious to anyone who can read that the majority of us here are anti-Gmo. You can read, right?

        I'm sorry, but the handwriting is on the wall of who here was trolling with their post.

        So have you figured out who the real troll is yet?


        Terra
        So essentially a troll is someone with an opposite point of view?
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          So essentially a troll is someone with an opposite point of view?
          Only an idiot would read Terra's post and come to that conclusion. Well an idiot and a troll.
          At least he is well educated,
          That's highly debatable Shane.
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          So essentially a troll is someone with an opposite point of view?

          Please tell me that you're really just playing dumb here!

          Seriously?


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          • Profile picture of the author Cali16
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Please tell me that you're really just playing dumb here!
            Sadly, I don't think he's "playing" dumb....

            @Socialentry - you actually haven't been very civil in this thread. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a redneck??? That's laughable, and that comment speaks volumes about you. I'm a highly educated white collar professional. My grad school curriculum included several courses specifically geared towards research, including statistical analysis and experimental design. So I know a thing or two about how easily research can be skewed to fit a particular agenda - particularly when deep pockets are funding it.

            As for GMOs; I am 100% against them for many reasons. And just for the record, I read the article you posted. It didn't change my view in the slightest.

            Regardless of whether people are for or against GMOs, we're playing with fire - not only by continuing to develop, grow, and consume these franken-creations, but also by allowing egregiously toxic products (e.g. Round Up) to be developed by Monsanto and other companies to support them. We simply don't know the really long-term impact of GMOs on human health or the environment. However, Pandora's box has sadly been opened and it can't be shut. Even if GMOs were banned globally today, their impact will linger far longer than any of us - or our children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren - will be around.

            (Btw, since GMOs are banned throughout most of Europe, are all the scientists and other powers-that-be who supported or implemented the ban "rednecks" too??)
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            • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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              Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

              Sadly, I don't think he's "playing" dumb....

              @Socialentry - you actually haven't been very civil in this thread. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a redneck??? That's laughable, and that comment speaks volumes about you. I'm a highly educated white collar professional. My grad school curriculum included several courses specifically geared towards research, including statistical analysis and experimental design. So I know a thing or two about how easily research can be skewed to fit a particular agenda - particularly when deep pockets are funding it.

              As for GMOs; I am 100% against them for many reasons. And just for the record, I read the article you posted. It didn't change my view in the slightest.

              Regardless of whether people are for or against GMOs, we're playing with fire - not only by continuing to develop, grow, and consume these franken-creations, but also by allowing egregiously toxic products (e.g. Round Up) to be developed by Monsanto and other companies to support them. We simply don't know the really long-term impact of GMOs on human health or the environment. However, Pandora's box has sadly been opened and it can't be shut. Even if GMOs were banned globally today, their impact will linger far longer than any of us - or our children, grandchildren, or great grandchildren - will be around.
              NeuroLogica Blog » Features of Denialism
              Features of denialism:

              1) Cast doubt on the science.
              2) Question the scientists’ motives and integrity.
              3) Magnify any disagreements among the scientists; cite gadflies as authorities.
              4) Exaggerate the potential for harm from the science.
              5) Appeal to the importance of personal freedom.
              6) Object that acceptance of the science would repudiate some key philosophy.

              Cali16 and the legions of anti-GMO fundamentalist do not sound rational at all.
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by socialentry View Post


                Cali16 and the legions of anti-GMO fundamentalist do not sound rational at all.
                They wouldn't to the irrational, now would they?


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                • Profile picture of the author socialentry
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                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  They wouldn't to the irrational, now would they?


                  Terra
                  Irrationals like who, like you?
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                    Irrationals like who, like you?
                    No, not at all like me. The definition of irrational is as follows - not able to use reason or good judgment : not endowed with reason or understanding : lacking usual or normal mental clarity or coherence.

                    That sounds more like you, actually.


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                    • Profile picture of the author msdobe
                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      No, not at all like me. The definition of irrational is as follows - not able to use reason or good judgment : not endowed with reason or understanding : lacking usual or normal mental clarity or coherence.

                      That sounds more like you, actually.


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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                NeuroLogica Blog » Features of Denialism
                Features of denialism:

                1) Cast doubt on the science.
                2) Question the scientists' motives and integrity.
                3) Magnify any disagreements among the scientists; cite gadflies as authorities.
                4) Exaggerate the potential for harm from the science.
                5) Appeal to the importance of personal freedom.
                6) Object that acceptance of the science would repudiate some key philosophy.

                Cali16 and the legions of anti-GMO fundamentalist do not sound rational at all.
                About #5...... #5 says that GMO that provides protection against an herbicide like roundup SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED! Use of a plant that has a modified pollen SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!! So they kill their entire argument.

                WHY you say! It should be that 1 persons individual right! TWO PROBLEMS!

                1. The protection makes NO sense unless the herbicide is used. If it is used, it will destroy other crops!
                2. If the pollen is modified, you can bet it WILL spread! If it spreads, new plants will take on the aspects of this plant.

                So WHY deny that ONE PERSON the "right" to do this? You should deny it because the exercise of this ONE right denies BILLIONS of others from having the choice! Up to now, each seed created maybe 100s of replacement seeds. Suppose that ONE DAY, each seed is the LAST!

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                  OK, I don't want to reply tit for tat.

                  I think my thread didn't end well so please lock it.

                  Yes, I admit defeat. I have little respect and certainly no patience for people that resort to personal insults, dogpiling as a first debate tactic. Little respect either for people who source virtual unknowns.

                  So yeah, welcome all to my ignore list.

                  And yes, I have been given an education, an education in the nature of the American (and perhaps western) lumpenproletariat. A backward, retarded, culturally ignorant, and luddite minority that hopefully does not represent the whole.

                  Farewell.
                  Ok, that means most of Europe is culturally ignorant, retarded and backward!

                  And most of Australia is as well, apparently!

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    I don't believe that the dogpiling and petty insults reflect badly upon me in so much as they reflect badly upon the characters of the opposition (and their likely blue collar origins).

    Especially when they use "Emily Glass" as an authority source.

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      I don't believe that the dogpiling and petty insults reflect badly upon me in so much as they reflect badly upon the characters of the opposition (and their likely blue collar origins).

      Especially when they use "Emily Glass" as an authority source.

      The Environmental Impact of GMOs | One Green Planet

      Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

      Only an idiot would read Terra's post and come to that conclusion. Well an idiot and a troll.
      That's highly debatable Shane.
      Well, lets be fair at least at the moment, (sharpening my knives) he could just be young and impressionable?

      Well, a 20 year old, who goes ape-shit over other members of his family leaving the fridge door open, because it will destroy the planet .000000000002% faster, could be considered a Troll in training, or even considered insane by some members?

      But he or she will grow out of it, but a tongue lashing, etc, doesn't hurt!

      But l have to admit, that Troll like behavior is surfacing, but being young and stupid goes hand in hand.

      We need to educate these people and put them on the right, path, or tie them up in a room and throw sharp knives about, whichever comes first!



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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Here's all about your stinking vile "Forbes" article:
    GMW: US politicians bought and owned by Big Biotech
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    When the Roads and Paths end, learn to guide yourself through the wilderness
    Beyond the Path

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  • Profile picture of the author KateHunter
    I'm just curious, did the op remove the picture of The Scream painting in post 31, or did the mods remove it for copyright issues?
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by KateHunter View Post

      I'm just curious, did the op remove the picture of The Scream painting in post 31, or did the mods remove it for copyright issues?
      Probably removed for bandwidth issues.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

        Probably removed for bandwidth issues.
        That sounds reasonable. I was about to respond saying I highly doubt that socialentry removed it of his own volition. He seemed quite proud of his comment accompanying it.


        Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author KateHunter
    Thanks Bizgrower (Fluffy Bunny Breeder) and Terra (The Terra-izer) LOL Whether you are anti GMOs or you think eating pesticide is really good for you, I think we can all agree on the importance of optimizing images.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      NeuroLogica Blog » Features of Denialism
      Features of denialism:

      1) Cast doubt on the science.
      2) Question the scientists' motives and integrity.
      3) Magnify any disagreements among the scientists; cite gadflies as authorities.
      4) Exaggerate the potential for harm from the science.
      5) Appeal to the importance of personal freedom.
      6) Object that acceptance of the science would repudiate some key philosophy.

      Cali16 and the legions of anti-GMO fundamentalist do not sound rational at all.
      Hmmm, petrol on a fire!


      I stand corrected, a young troll, unfortunately!

      Remember socialentry, is a "Hyperactive Warrior", so it already sounds like he is practicing what he, is preaching!

      Can't think logically or irrationally after eating sterile, Roundup soil produced food!


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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Hmmm, petrol on a fire!


        I stand corrected, a young troll, unfortunately!

        Remember socialentry, is a "Hyperactive Warrior", so it already sounds like he is practicing what he, is preaching!

        Can't think logically or irrationally after eating sterile, Roundup soil produced food!


        Hmmm, maybe by the time he gets to be our age, he'll glow in the dark, well, that is if he even lives that long.


        Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Hmmm, maybe by the time he gets to be our age, he'll glow in the dark, well, that is if he even lives that long.


          Terra
          Yes, let's hope that he doesn't end up here with his hand out, saying, l have to have surgery for ....., and don't know why, l have eaten GMO certified food all my life????

          Someone who is that determined to be right or ignore the facts is a worry!

          The legal voting age, especially in AU, needs to be at least 25!

          18 is still in the, "accept this hype, save the planet trollop" so we can get reelected, etc.

          We have to vote in Au, or toss a coin?

          Sorry mods, no more P........!

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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    Banned
    OK, I don't want to reply tit for tat.

    I think my thread didn't end well so please lock it.

    Yes, I admit defeat. I have little respect and certainly no patience for people that resort to personal insults, dogpiling as a first debate tactic. Little respect either for people who source virtual unknowns.

    So yeah, welcome all to my ignore list.

    And yes, I have been given an education, an education in the nature of the American (and perhaps western) lumpenproletariat. A backward, retarded, culturally ignorant, and luddite minority that hopefully does not represent the whole.

    Farewell.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      OK, I don't want to reply tit for tat.

      I think my thread didn't end well so please lock it.

      Yes, I admit defeat. I have little respect and certainly no patience for people that resort to personal insults, dogpiling as a first debate tactic.

      So yeah, welcome all to my ignore list.

      And yes, I have been given an education, an education in the American lumpenproletariat.

      I am not American, but if the fact that I am against GMOs and stated an opinion, means I get put on your ignore list, then I feel sorry for you - you are going to be a very lonely Warrior with a huge ignore list of every single person who doesn't agree with you.

      I have been a member of this forum for over 6 years. I have had "run ins" with a few members back in the day - not one of them is on my ignore list - you know why? Because I'm mature enough to realize that not everyone is always going to like me, or agree with my opinions, and because sometimes, I too, as a normal human being, screw up.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      OK, I don't want to reply tit for tat.

      I think my thread didn't end well so please lock it.

      Yes, I admit defeat. I have little respect and certainly no patience for people that resort to personal insults, dogpiling as a first debate tactic. Little respect either for people who source virtual unknowns.

      So yeah, welcome all to my ignore list.

      And yes, I have been given an education, an education in the nature of the American (and perhaps western) lumpenproletariat. A backward, retarded, culturally ignorant, and luddite minority that hopefully does not represent the whole.

      Farewell.

      Awww! <sniff, sniff>

      And to think I was only being catty with my claws in.




      See ya around when you develop thicker skin.

      Hint - when you start throwing punches, you should first make sure you're tough enough to take 'em too.


      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I'm proud to be a redneck who is well versed in the scientific method. And who takes bloggers with a grain of salt - regardless of which publication they contribute to.
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