Anyone use infousa.com?

11 years ago

I work in this space so I'm familiar with them. I can tell you that infousa is expensive and there are others out there that are same quality and cost lest.

What is your goal for your mailing list?

ListShack.com is only $50 and gets you unlimited leads. T

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Synnuh

11 years ago

hmm, I'll check out listshack.

the main purpose is to find massive amounts of business owners in a specific sector that have website information like the URL and email address.

I'm trying to drum up large lists of businesses with junk websites in a certain industry, pretty much.

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eccj

11 years ago

Hmm I wouldn't go to INFOUSA for that or ListShack. check out IAMNAMELESS's blog incomebully.com. He has some info on that kind of marketing.

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jimbo42

11 years ago

listshack is great, especially for consumer list... not a ton of emails for businesses though... I use mobile renegade for that

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AffordableMarketingLists

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jimbo42

listshack is great, especially for consumer list... not a ton of emails for businesses though... I use mobile renegade for that

Well thanks

We are TERRIBLE for business emails because we have zero. We do include websites for businesses to the extent that they're available, but we only provide physical address and phone numbers vs emails.

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mich800

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AffordableMarketingLists

Well thanks

We are TERRIBLE for business emails because we have zero. We do include websites for businesses to the extent that they're available, but we only provide physical address and phone numbers vs emails.

Is listshack more for phone numbers or do the consumer lists include emails. The website seemed to emphasize the telemarketing side.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by mich800

Is listshack more for phone numbers or do the consumer lists include emails. The website seemed to emphasize the telemarketing side.

Very few lists have emails for every business. The last niche list I bought was 55K businesses. It had 17k with emails and 38k without.

Many list companies supply no emails at all. There are many companies and each list from each company has varied data offerings.

Cheers. - Frank

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mich800

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Very few lists have emails for every business. The last niche list I bought was 55K businesses. It had 17k with emails and 38k without.

Many list companies supply no emails at all. There are many companies and each list from each company has varied data offerings.

Cheers. - Frank

I was thinking more on the consumer side. I have used InfoUSA for email and was interested it trying out listshack as the price is much cheaper for the list. But if they do not have optin emails tied to the list of consumers it would be more useful for telemarketing.

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AffordableMarketingLists

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Very few lists have emails for every business. The last niche list I bought was 55K businesses. It had 17k with emails and 38k without.

Many list companies supply no emails at all. There are many companies and each list from each company has varied data offerings.

Cheers. - Frank

How much email marketing do you do? Are you focused on quality or just getting some data out there?

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by AffordableMarketingLists

How much email marketing do you do?

It's not something I do for myself, only for my clients.

Are you focused on quality or just getting some data out there?

I strive for quality in everything I do, to the extent of what I have to work with will allow.

I purchase extremely targeted lists and am fully aware of the wide disparity of email contact information from list to list, a fact that I make sure my clients are well apprised of. I make sure they set realistic expectations and we generally exceed them. That is how I keep my clients and keep them coming back for more of my services.

I tell them the truth, based upon decades of personal experience. That tends to work for me - and, them.

Cheers. - Frank
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AffordableMarketingLists 11 years ago

Originally Posted by mich800

Is listshack more for phone numbers or do the consumer lists include emails. The website seemed to emphasize the telemarketing side.

It's 100% phones and physical addresses, no emails. It does include websites to the extent available, but that's fairly limited.

Opt-in emails are their own breed of critter and will likely never be a part of ListShack. I may be launching another product that has emails as part of it, but that won't be for at least another six months and even at that, what people expect from email data is almost always not realistic.
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Synnuh

11 years ago

I think I'm going to get mobile renegade. I was debating the buy until you just said something.

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Noah Fleming

11 years ago

I used InfoUSA recently to find some data. I spent $150 to buy a list of contacts that fit my criteria... Actually, I used their counterpart of InfoCanada.

I closed two projects... One at $59,000 and one at $37,000. Worth the money :-)

The data was fine, but I had someone double/triple check all the data. For example, owners/ceos had changed in many cases. Some of the data was just old.... Old contacts. We called one to confirm the President's name and he had died 8 years ago!

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sdingram 11 years ago

Infousa has pretty good data. You're never going to find 100% accurate data but whatever you buy should be guaranteed to be about 92% accurate or better.

If you want a small list to test, you can run your own counts online for businesses or consumers at http://www.strategiclists.com and the minimum order is only 100 records. (This is my company.)

All the best,
Sdingram
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mario23

11 years ago

Yes...infousa is very expensive.
I use them a lot, but data very accurate, it may not be at 100% but its worth it.
Try them out, you won't be disappointed at all.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

I have used them and have been very happy with the lists purchased. They offer an 80% delivery rate and a credit for anything under that. Might be 85%. I can't recall. It's early.

Not cheap, but good lists, with emails included, never are.

Cheers. - Frank

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sdingram

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I have used them and have been very happy with the lists purchased. They offer an 80% delivery rate and a credit for anything under that. Might be 85%. I can't recall. It's early.

Not cheap, but good lists, with emails included, never are.

Cheers. - Frank

Their guarantee is 85% for phones and 92% for postal addresses.

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BigFrank Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by sdingram

Their guarantee is 85% for phones and 92% for postal addresses.

I was referring to emails, which is all I ever use. :-) Do you recall that number?

Cheers. - Frank
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MichaelWinicki

11 years ago

Highly recommend ListShack.com

I view getting emails as a multistep process.

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JamesBarefield

Banned 11 years ago

infoUS is definitely expensive, they had given me quote of $1,000 which was the highest compared to what other companies had given me..

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesBarefield

infoUS is definitely expensive, they had given me quote of $1,000 which was the highest compared to what other companies had given me..

Until you know the actual quality of what you purchased there is no way of determining the value of your expenditure.

My last purchase on InfoUSA was close to $6k. Money very well spent.

Cheers. - Frank

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AffordableMarketingLists

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Until you know the actual quality of what you purchased there is no way of determining the value of your expenditure.

My last purchase on InfoUSA was close to $6k. Money very well spent.

Cheers. - Frank

FWIW - Probably at least half the list brokers out there are reselling InfoUSAs data. I wouldn't necessarily start off with a $6k purchase with another vendor, but you can reasonably expect similar (if not identical quality) from a lot of other sources.

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by AffordableMarketingLists

FWIW - Probably at least half the list brokers out there are reselling InfoUSAs data. I wouldn't necessarily start off with a $6k purchase with another vendor, but you can reasonably expect similar (if not identical quality) from a lot of other sources.

That may be true, but try to get a refund from 'another vendor' if they don't meet their stated delivery % guarantee. Let me know how that works out for you. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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fantrom

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

That may be true, but try to get a refund from 'another vendor' if they don't meet their stated delivery % guarantee. Let me know how that works out for you. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

I think that's why he forewarned with:

"I wouldn't necessarily start off with a $6k purchase with another vendor"

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arc323

11 years ago

I have access to highly targeted lead lists if anyone is interested. No email addresses though. The data includes many things like advertising budget (est), utility expenses (est), gross sales, website address (if applicable), etc.

If you are interested in a small batch of targeted leads let me know. PM me with the criteria you want to search for and I will pull a sample so that you can determine if the data will work for you.

Cheers!

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AffordableMarketingLists

11 years ago

If you sell the data in bulk then please let me know. Send an email to josh(at)affordablemarketinglists.com.

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tonyalpha

11 years ago

there has been a fuzz in a skype group about purchasing list from infoUSA. Many people got their IP blacklisted by sending out mass email. That probably has something to do with sending behavior, not the list itself, but if so many people are buying the same list. Can the quality still be good? I don't believe. You may end up with a lot of spam complains and ip gets banned

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BigFrank

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by tonyalpha

there has been a fuzz in a skype group about purchasing list from infoUSA. Many people got their IP blacklisted by sending out mass email. That probably has something to do with sending behavior, not the list itself,

Precisely!

but if so many people are buying the same list. Can the quality still be good? I don't believe. You may end up with a lot of spam complains and ip gets banned

They have thousands of generic lists but most folks get get custom-built lists. I doubt anyone is buying the same list, over and over, again.

Cheers. - Frank

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