How to speak with conviction on a cold call

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I find myself changing my script everytime i get owned by a dm or gate keeper.

But i find that sometimes when i yell or talk louder and kinda slow, i get better results i dont know.

Sometimes i feel like im hitting my head to a brick wall when i cold call. I was able to set an apointment with one guy yesterday.

I said this

When talking to a dm (you can lie to get past a gk, but choose not to). I havent found a way to get around a gk.



"Yes hi, im calling to set an appointment where you and i can talk about getting you more customers from google"

"What does your calendar look like for this week or next week" ?

I then follow up with a qualifing question and then ock and close appointment. Sometimes my voice sounds unconfident. But my voice is deep though, so i dont see what im doing wrong.

Today, people just hanged up on me, im thinking what could have i done.

Im trying to fill my pipeline up.

Why is it so hard to get your first seo client lol

Any suggestions cold call kings ?
#call #cold #conviction #speak
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    When you get the DM on the line start with a contract:

    "Do you have 40 seconds and an open mind so I can tell you how I might be useful to your company"

    Then do your 40 second pitch

    Then ask, "does this interest you" then close for appointment.

    Off all the calls I've done with DM, I've only had 1 guy say no to the 40 seconds
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Below is an alternative that works.

    Orig Thread here:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...atekeeper.html

    Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

    A real simple thing I never hear anyone talk about is simply asking

    Who do i talk to about referrals? Oh, thats BOB,

    Great, is Bob a sales rep, or can he actually pay me for a referral.

    Then you usually hear, actually you want Jack.

    Now you got who you want to talk to, AND you know they are interested in
    more customers.

    Easy foot in the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimanierick
    How you present yourself is very important or Maybe you called the wrong guys. Before approaching someone be sure that they need your service and that means doing some prior research. All the best pal dont give. Mistakes just makes you stronger,
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      You were struggling about a year ago with Web-design sales this year is SEO take a look at this thread you posted. http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ing-wrong.html

      You are making similar mistakes. Not trying to bust chops, but Ron Rule and a few others offered you great advice. You can learn from mistakes. Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author Clautusoar
        Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

        You were struggling about a year ago with Web-design sales this year is SEO take a look at this thread you posted. http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ing-wrong.html

        You are making similar mistakes. Not trying to bust chops, but Ron Rule and a few others offered you great advice. You can learn from mistakes. Good Luck


        Yeah i remembered last year, i had no idea what i was doing, and i was looking for a shortcut to a sale. This year, i learned alot from last year, i made some changes and as a result i made some progress. I was not consistent as i am now.

        I want to do 1000 calls a day, i just need to pay someone to build me a list of my specific niche of businesses.

        I love it when people point out my past, it gives me a deeper insight on progression.
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  • Profile picture of the author chaotic squid
    I find myself changing my script everytime i get owned by a dm or gate keeper.
    Problem is your not consistent. Find something and stick with it.

    But i find that sometimes when i yell or talk louder and kinda slow, i get better results i dont know.
    What do you mean better results? You haven't made a sale yet. That doesn't mean anything.

    I havent found a way to get around a gk.
    Get around the gk? Gatekeepers are your friends, not your enemy. Butter them up and have them work for you. If you try to fight them, you'll lose every time.

    Yes hi, im calling to set an appointment where you and i can talk about getting you more customers from google
    Ok what the hell is that? Maybe you should just pay someone to make you a script.

    What does your calendar look like for this week or next week
    Pin down an exact day and time. Like: "how about this Wednesday at 2PM or would the morning work better?"

    I then follow up with a qualifing question and then ock and close appointment. Sometimes my voice sounds unconfident. But my voice is deep though, so i dont see what im doing wrong.
    If you're not confident maybe it's because you don't believe in what you're selling. If you have a burning passion for what you're selling and know in the depth of your heart that you are proving massive value to help them grow their business....the confidence will come. If you're selling SEO, then you need to love it! Just thinking about SEO should make your dick jump.

    Today, people just hanged up on me, im thinking what could have i done.
    It's your opener. Burn up your script and piss on the ashes. Pay someone to make one because you seem very lost. Also, there are other ways to get clients besides cold calling. Maybe there's another method that you would be more comfortable doing? Lots of ways to get business.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Originally Posted by Clautusoar View Post

    I find myself changing my script everytime i get owned by a dm or gate keeper.
    Over the course of your first couple of hundred calls, unless you are using a tried and true proven one, , you are "formulating" your script ("Live" ) and finding out what works best for you. Then you get it down to a science, and it rolls off the tongue better... and you will begin say that the same way, consistently.

    There are only so many things you can say to a resistant gatekeeper.... if they give you too much grief, then they arent worth it. Move on.... No one knows how to get through every single gatekeeper or even close. It's just sales.

    It's easier to change your audience (as someone said) than your script. So you just move on to the next, if you dont get a favorable response. Someone will show interest. There's no harm in offering a couple of rebuttals if you like, but dont get hung up on individuals. There are alot of prospects out there.

    Originally Posted by Clautusoar View Post

    But i find that sometimes when i yell or talk louder and kinda slow, i get better results i dont know.
    That will change from day to day. Usually your first fifteen minutes of dialing is just finding out what kind of groove is working for you that day. If Im in a bad mood I sound insincere trying to be all sweet.... So the authoritative tone works better for me and come across as more authentic. If Im in a wistful mood, then the sweet thing works for me.... Each day you may be in a different mindset, and a different tone may work better for you.

    That is a gem I dont talk about much.... But usually it takes a few minutes to figure out what tone is going to work for you for the day. This is said by someone who has faced the phone for at least a thousand 8 hour days. Some mornings I felt like it, and some I didnt. Some days I would go in after arguing with my wife, and other days I was on cloud nine.... Some days I was even sick, or having a toothache or something... You are going to be in different moods and your tone is going to change.

    Seriously, on certain days I come across authoritative, and others as calm as a marriage counselor.... Just work with the tone that is most natural for you that day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clautusoar
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Over the course of your first couple of hundred calls, unless you are using a tried and true proven one, , you are "formulating" your script ("Live" ) and finding out what works best for you. Then you get it down to a science, and it rolls off the tongue better... and you will begin say that the same way, consistently.

      There are only so many things you can say to a resistant gatekeeper.... if they give you too much grief, then they arent worth it. Move on.... No one knows how to get through every single gatekeeper or even close. It's just sales.

      It's easier to change your audience (as someone said) than your script. So you just move on to the next if you dont get a favorable response. Someone will show interest. Dont get hung up on individuals. There are alot of prospects out there.

      I always apperciate your input, with that being said. What are your thoughts on making 1000 calls a day ? And staying consistent ?
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by Clautusoar View Post

        I always apperciate your input, with that being said. What are your thoughts on making 1000 calls a day ? And staying consistent ?

        Have to go run an errand, but will be back to answer that one. Thanks for valueing my advice. Im glad to offer it.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by Clautusoar View Post

        I always apperciate your input, with that being said. What are your thoughts on making 1000 calls a day ? And staying consistent ?
        Honestly, Im not even sure if you COULD make a thousand calls per day consistently, without being extremely hardcore.... working from home , most , including myself, couldnt stay on the phone twelve hours per day consistently... at least not without being forced by a boss.

        However , if Im wrong thats great. Generally 200 to 300 calls per day consistently will bring you all the success you want. Even 100 calls per day done consistently.

        If you are doing that then I would hire someone else to work with me to double the number.

        500 calls per day is pretty massive action for an individual working alone.

        It's important to be consistent but not burn yourself out... you HAVE to work yourself past burnout in a call center because a boss is breathing down your neck, but even myself would leave at a half day in that situation, if I had a choice.

        200-500 calls per day will make you rich. If you can do that consistently for a year, then, you are a man among men...with ultimate self discipline, personal development, and money falling out of your pockets.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Look at the posts linked here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ml#post9724002

    You'll find a valuable opening with gatekeepers in the Little Unsure technique. I even posted an updated version in 2014 as the initial examples had been done in 2011...what works still works!

    Get a consistent approach together so you know where you're at in the call. That's where your confidence comes from.

    Right now you're too concerned with "making the sale".
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Get fired up by the fact you're going to make a positive impact on somebody's
    business. If not the current call, then one of the next ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I actually talked about the unsure technique alot on the old TMF forum, although I didnt give it a name or anything... I didnt invent it.... and I dont know how Jason explains it honestly, but here's my take on it:

    The basic idea is that a gatekeepers job and first instincts are to "help" and to "guard".... Their immediate response when one calls selling something is to guard...they are trained to do that, however, just as strong, is their instinct to "Help".

    When you say something like "Im not quite sure who I should be speaking about this to... but I was hoping maybe you could help me out and point me in the right direction..." The gate keepers mentality immediately jumps from guarding mode to "helping" mode... and suddenly they are glad to "help you out".

    You kind of cut the guarding instinct off at the pass.

    Works like a charm and has for years. Not with every gatekkeeper , but with alot of them. You have to play their instincts. They have natural instincts that kick in when someone says "I was hoping you could help me out".

    Many times the question "who are you?", can be avoided altogether by asking for help. You may , rather, get a response like "Ummmm.... let me think.... I think you may be looking for Bob in the ______ department, give me a sec and I will transfer you over".

    Jason has done a great job of popularizing this specific idea on the WF, and it has helped alot of people out. Excellent, classic technique, that works for good and logical reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    The 'unsure technique' also works great as an exit check. If you are dealing with smaller businesses or organisations very often the gk is a spouse or partner. Although they may not initially recognise it they are the DM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    Another thing, don't get hung up on not knowing the DM name. Even if you're getting blocked and no name is giving (because they know you're a salesperson), your mindset should be like: NEXT

    There's always another record where you have the name available.
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  • Profile picture of the author onehalf
    Important basic cold calling techniques are:

    1. Preparation - self, environment, knowledge, and who you represent
    2. Introduction - key phrases explaining and positioning yourself and your purpose
    3. Questioning - help, facilitate and enable rather than assume, sell and push
    4. Objectivity - the mark of an advisor - do not sell
    5. Listen and interpret - do not sell
    6. Inform and educate - do not sell
    7. Involve and coordinate - do not sell
    8. Keep in touch - keep notes and keep informed - keep ultimate ownership (by now you will probably be selling)
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    • Profile picture of the author themoney222
      A lot of the time getting hung up own is very common because most businesses are getting telemarketing calls multiple times a day.

      It's very important to ensure that the call doesn't sound like a sales call, because once the GK senses that it's a sales call they'll either hang up on you, or lie and say that the DM isn't available or whatnot.

      This is why the little unsure technique is very effective.

      Sounding very confident when talking with both the GK and DM is very important because only then can they be confident in your purpose of the call, and the DM's confidence in the value that what you are offering can value their business.
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