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Video and Image Services

by John Marshall
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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

Many thanks,

John
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.
    You've only asked one of two very important questions.

    1. How much demand is there for video services?

    You forgot -

    2. How many people currently offer this service?

    The answers are -

    1. Huge, ever-increasing demand.

    2. Probably way more than can actually eke-out a living doing it.

    Go to Fiverr. Punch in "Video Services." Then review the untold listings. That's just Fiverr, remember.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

      You've only asked one of two very important questions.

      1. How much demand is there for video services?

      You forgot -

      2. How many people currently offer this service?

      The answers are -

      1. Huge, ever-increasing demand.

      2. Probably way more than can actually eke-out a living doing it.

      Go to Fiverr. Punch in "Video Services." Then review the untold listings. That's just Fiverr, remember.
      Great point, well made. Many thanks
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      Great information you have shared. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    In this modern era of social media... success breads success. If this is something you want to do for a living... then you need to be doing it. You should have a Insta account.. you should have a youtube account.. you should be producing content image and video that represents you as an artist, and displays your abilities. In theory... jobs could and should follow ~ if you have the skills.

    Regardless if jobs do make their way to you via these platforms.. having these in place to use as a portfolio is pretty much a requirement.

    In terms of people to look to, in terms of your desire to work in the industry.. I would be watching Gary Vaynerchuck. I would probably watch Casey Niestat. Without question I would be looking at Peter McKinnon. I might actually suggest looking at this video.



    Hope that helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      In this modern era of social media... success breads success. If this is something you want to do for a living... then you need to be doing it. You should have a Insta account.. you should have a youtube account.. you should be producing content image and video that represents you as an artist, and displays your abilities. In theory... jobs could and should follow ~ if you have the skills.

      Regardless if jobs do make their way to you via these platforms.. having these in place to use as a portfolio is pretty much a requirement.

      In terms of people to look to, in terms of your desire to work in the industry.. I would be watching Gary Vaynerchuck. I would probably watch Casey Niestat. Without question I would be looking at Peter McKinnon. I might actually suggest looking at this video.




      Hope that helps!
      Most appreciated. Very helpful. Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
    More thoughts from experienced off liners would be most appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
    Here's my take - if you can produce quality anything ... sell it direct to businesses.

    No one on Fiverr is your competition. Business owners, by and large, do NOT check out Fiverr.

    Competition is good. It means there's both money and demand.

    Do what most won't do - Sell direct.

    Businesses that have to support 10 F/T employees or more. Payroll + Benefits = $ 500K +

    These business owners don't hang out online the way IM-ers do.

    You have to meet them where they are.

    They are extremely common.

    But they don't hang out on forums, freelance sites, or Fiverr.

    P.S. I am from the old school Warrior Forum. Back when we aspired to be Major League.

    Do you think MLB players care about guys who play softball?

    Nope.

    Fiverr is the guys who play softball. Go be Major League.

    P.P.S. Here's how old school Warriors tested an offer:

    They ran real traffic to it. The best traffic they could. They didn't wait for folks to tell them Yes or No.

    Face it, the last of the Warriors these days are more likely to try and talk you out of anything.

    Under the guise of being "realistic."

    Guess what?

    The average American is: Fat, Broke, and Unhappy.

    That's what realistic gets ya.

    Don't be realistic.

    Be f-ing phenomenal.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

      Here's my take - if you can produce quality anything ... sell it direct to businesses.
      As if everyone can sell, proficiently.

      No one on Fiverr is your competition. Business owners, by and large, do NOT check out Fiverr.
      As I said, Fiverr is just one of many sites where a business can obtain a video.

      These business owners don't hang out online the way IM-ers do.
      Maybe - but they all know how to go online long enough to do a Google search for 'video services.' Any successful business owner knows how to find what they need, when they need it. Randomly calling businesses in the hope that they might need a video is nothing but a time-suck.

      Encouraging people is always a good thing. Believing that they can do something just because you can, rarely works to their benefit. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes to see how you might help them is the best way to approach a problem. Trying to put them into your shoes, rarely, if ever, works to their advantage.

      Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjbwebs
    Do you have site or some examples?
    Thanks

    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

    I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

    Many thanks,

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by cjbwebs View Post

      Do you have site or some examples?
      Thanks
      Hi,

      I am still at the "figuring out if this is the way to go" stage. I would only ant to offer something where there is a least some sort of demand so I thought I'd start by asking a group of people whom I believed would actually know.

      I'm putting together a youtube channel with some videos to promote my mobile apps so I'll try to remember to pop back and leave the link (if OK with the mods) when I've to a few up. Let me know if you actually want a video and I'll see what I can do to help

      John
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  • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
    OptedIn,

    You speak as though you and you alone know what's good for people. That's not you putting yourself in their shoes.

    That's you feeding your own ego.

    Sales is not complex. It's matching. Nothing more than matching. If the OP can make a targeted list of people who want to buy his services and he contacts those businesses, all that's left is a negotiation of price/fee.

    It ain't rocket science.

    OP can handle that.

    P.S. Most successful business owners are not Googling for video services even if they need them.

    There's a reason why b2b still uses direct mail and direct sales HEAVILY.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

      OptedIn,

      You speak as though you and you alone know what's good for people. That's not you putting yourself in their shoes.
      Actually, no - that's precisely what you were doing, telling the OP how to go about his business. No where did he mention wanting to sell. You interjected that because you believe it's what he should be doing, so apparently it's you who thinks he alone knows what's good for people.

      That's you feeding your own ego.
      That's what people say when they don't have a valid argument to defend their position. lol

      Sales is not complex. It's matching. Nothing more than matching. If the OP can make a targeted list of people who want to buy his services and he contacts those businesses, all that's left is a negotiation of price/fee.
      Ridiculous. I'm willing to wager that I have been selling in one form or another for longer than you have been alive.

      1. Sales as a theory is not complex at all. Being successful at it is another thing altogether, that's why the majority of people fail, miserably.

      2. How do you propose the OP "make a list of people that want to buy his product or service?" Again, this is NOT something that any desire to do has been expressed at any level.

      It ain't rocket science.

      OP can handle that.
      Really? Why don't you ask the OP if that can be handled, rather than assuming you have any idea whatsoever what he is capable of and wants to do going forward?

      P.S. Most successful business owners are not Googling for video services even if they need them.
      Wrong. And you have absolutely nothing to back up such an incredibly ludicrous comment. Nothing, at all.

      There's a reason why b2b still uses direct mail and direct sales HEAVILY.
      Yes, I've done both, but they still have nothing to do with the OP's original question. Perhaps you should sell for him and he can just make videos. That seems like a win-win to me.

      Cheers.

      P.S. No need to worry about my ego being fed. It's always very well satiated. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Actually, no - that's precisely what you were doing, telling the OP how to go about his business. No where did he mention wanting to sell.
        The OP wants to offer a service to businesses in exchange for payment. That IS the very definition of a sale.

        That's literally a sales transaction.
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

          The OP wants to offer a service to businesses in exchange for payment. That IS the very definition of a sale.

          That's literally a sales transaction.
          "I am considering offering these skills as a service."

          There is more than one way to offer services. Of course the end result is a sale, but if you go to a freelance site and list your services, are you marketing or selling? Most people perceive the "sales" process to include a conversation when selling this type of service.

          It ain't like selling a Kindle book on Amazon, which is also a "sale."

          Let's leave it there. Everyone can see what you're posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
    So far you have argued against:
    • Targeting
    • Prospecting
    • Testing an offer
    • Customer profiling
    • The definition of a sales transaction
      Etc, Etc.

    Yet you want people to believe you know sales and were actually good at it?

    So I am fine with what I posted.

    It's the basic skeleton of testing an offer to likely prospects using the means by which it will most likely be accomplished.

    Yeah, what a freaking horrible idea!

    (Sarcasm)

    I go back to that, "What happened to this forum?"

    P.S. Put your leg down. There's no need to mark territory. I first became a Warrior in the mid 2000s. I post a few times ... go away for months, post a few times, go away for months.

    Since this place is looking deader than it was just a couple years ago, the next time I go away for a few months, I probably won't be back.

    So there's no threat to whatever you get out of being the last troll on WaFo.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

      So far you have argued against:.
      The only thing I have stated is that I don't see where you telling someone that they should do something that they never inquired about will benefit the OP in any way.

      "My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?"

      Nothing more.
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        The only thing I have stated is that I don't see where you telling someone that they should do something that they never inquired about will benefit the OP in any way.

        "My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?"

        Nothing more.
        Let me answer this, because i am not just starting out, but actively participate in this niche of advertising. There is GREAT demand.. there are FEW active inquires. Most every business KNOWS they need still shots and video.. but more than many do not actively persue someone to do this for them. Most still images are taken from thier cell phone and they beieve it is good enough.

        Some examples of demand for still images. Web development.. I like to work locally for this reason in particular. If a image speaks a thousand words, I dont want quick spur of the moment.. " that dang web developer keeps asking for photos.. click click click.. here shut up already and build my site " I take STAGED well lit shots, placing the business in the best light ( pun not so intended ) possible.

        Social media... simple little snap shots may " Work " but not in the same manor as a professionally taken shot. Food shots, Product shots, Location shots etc are all key for social media. ESPECIALLY when therer is a Google business account involved. ( I may get into this later but maybe not this evening )

        Images for print media. Having a photographer that understands the need for blank space in a image to be used for print media.. REALLY helps!

        Video... This segment is more to do with the technology savvyness of the business owner. Do they understand what it will ADD to thier website? Do they understand whatit can do for thier social media? Maybe not something you can push on each and every business, but something that can be set in motion if the potential client sees the value.

        There is simply a lot of this work to be had from small mom and pops, right on up to big Corp America.

        Selling this stuff is about positioning.. ensuring your instagram and YouTube accounts are within context of what type of imaging you would be providing. You dont want to have an instagram account full of foodie shots if you are out selling product images... You dont want a youtube account full of drone footage if you are trying to sell Meet the Owner videos. - Would you hire a foodie photographer to shoot a wedding? probably not.. you would hire a wedding photographer.
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      • Profile picture of the author 1Bryan
        John,

        If someone handed you a list of 50 businesses who wanted to buy exactly what you had to offer ...

        And gave you the contact details of the decision makers ...

        As well as some basic details of those businesses so you know what their goals are ...

        Would you be able to close 5 of em?

        Probably.

        So how do you make that list for yourself?

        That's one of the "secrets" to prospecting that's not really a secret at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
          Originally Posted by 1Bryan View Post

          John,

          If someone handed you a list of 50 businesses who wanted to buy exactly what you had to offer ...

          And gave you the contact details of the decision makers ...

          As well as some basic details of those businesses so you know what their goals are ...

          Would you be able to close 5 of em?

          Probably.

          So how do you make that list for yourself?

          That's one of the "secrets" to prospecting that's not really a secret at all.
          Thank you for that, Bryan, and all of your contributions. You've been most helpful.

          30 years ago I went to the city central library and sat in the "business" department with a load of company directories and started to make a list of prospects. It's that long since I did this stuff! I'll have to figure out how these things are done in this day and age!

          John
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            Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

            Thank you for that, Bryan, and all of your contributions. You've been most helpful.

            30 years ago I went to the city central library and sat in the "business" department with a load of company directories and started to make a list of prospects. It's that long since I did this stuff! I'll have to figure out how these things are done in this day and age!

            John
            Today, your library should have access to online business databases,
            either AtoZ Databases or Reference USA.

            You can access them online from home or office
            so long as you have a library card.

            Best,
            Ewen
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            • Profile picture of the author animal44
              Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

              Today, your library should have access to online business databases,
              either AtoZ Databases or Reference USA.

              You can access them online from home or office
              so long as you have a library card.

              Best,
              Ewen
              I don't think that's true in UK... (At least last time I looked)
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              • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
                Originally Posted by animal44 View Post

                I don't think that's true in UK... (At least last time I looked)
                My mistake, I assumed he was from the USA.

                Best,
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    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

    I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

    Many thanks,

    John


    Stay away from IMers and sites like Fiverr, the majority of those people will buy low end 3rd world before they buy quality.

    I have a family member that is a video editor, makes 6 digit salary making videos for offline businesses. The recurring jobs are informational videos, like training videos for offline businesses. Those types of jobs are consistent and repeat year after year from the same buyers (update training material, etc...). He also does TV commercials for big box stores.

    Anyways, stick with businesses that are well established, they can usually afford to buy quality services.

    If you're serious about this, hire some local help and start a film crew, buy the necessary equipment as needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
    Thanks to everyone for a lively and most enlightening debate! I hadn't intended to raise such a fever!

    The arguments above are really interesting. It would be lovely to work online only but is this at the risk of only finding low paying jobs because of all the competition or maybe finding no jobs at all? Countering this I notice on People Per Hour that there are UK based people (where I am) who have had 200+ sales.

    The other side of the coin is to go for real, offline businesses, which is what was on my mind when I posted the initial question. The thinking here is that this entails selling but could find better paying work and may even lead to a "proper" business.

    Two different routes. There is a skill in knowing where and how to find work online and a different skill in finding businesses and then selling to them offline. I'm not a great sales person but sometimes you have to push yourself if you want to move forward.

    Once again, thank you to everyone who has contributed. It looks to me as though there is some merit in offering videos services to the offline community. I'll consider online, too, though.

    I have a bunch of questions on my mind now (how to get set up, how to prospect, approach businesses etc - where to sell online if I go that route - you know the drill) but you are welcome to continue the existing debate. I look forward to hearing more from you all.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author cybernext
    Hey,

    If you want to focus on multiple niches using one domain, you have a huge task ahead. You would need content of great quality to cover all those niches.

    If you wish you make this domain to be able to rank high for different terms in multiple niches, you should prove the credibility of your website in terms of content quality and usefulness of it to the visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author affmarketer101
    Just find job posting on Upwork, Freelancer, etc then you will know the demand.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashtonthecopychief
    I would suggest go with fiverr and upwork.Try it out there...
    Theres tons of opportunity and everyone loves videos more.
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  • Profile picture of the author salsym
    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

    I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

    Many thanks,

    John
    I have seen many people selling similar services on Fiverr but their quality is not that great. Most of them have a few templates and they keep changing these templates to suite the new requirement. If you can create really good images and videos unique for each requirement, you may charge premium price for your services. Quantity is available in the market but quality is missing. And good quality customized images and videos are too expensive. You can place your services somewhere between the two extremes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian5
    Nowadays , there is a enough demand for this type of service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aqeedat
    Hi john . Nice to see you.
    I had personally no experience of video marketing but I had a close fellow who worked on it. You just can not believe it that She used to earn more than enough from it. The demand of it is increasing day by day. You can use different platforms to provide yours services and can earn well
    wish you best luck for that
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler Anderson
    Just find job posting on Upwork, Freelancer, etc then you will know the demand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amit Patel
    John, go with the philosophy that you have 7 billion people on this planet of which you need 3 or 4 every month for this to work out. So if you ask me there are enough customers.

    But the problem as mentioned in this thread is there are also a lot of people giving this service.

    This means you have to come up with clever differentiation of yourself in a way that you separate your service from most of the people out there.

    Try to find out the exact problems that people who need your service are facing.

    Go to blogs that have these services mentioned and read comments of people.

    Go to Amazon and check the how-to books in this area and read comments of 3-star ratings.

    Collect as much information as you can so that you can design an irresistible offer.

    This exercise may take some time but when done correctly you will be able to get a steady stream of customers who you would have nailed with your offer.

    On the contrary, if you just go and list yourself with Upwork or RemoteCo or whatever then you are just going to fight for crumbs.

    Every extra hour you spend researching and creating your irresistible offer you are going to earn more no matter what.

    Best of Luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by Amit Patel View Post

      John, go with the philosophy that you have 7 billion people on this planet of which you need 3 or 4 every month for this to work out. So if you ask me there are enough customers.

      But the problem as mentioned in this thread is there are also a lot of people giving this service.

      This means you have to come up with clever differentiation of yourself in a way that you separate your service from most of the people out there.

      Try to find out the exact problems that people who need your service are facing.

      Go to blogs that have these services mentioned and read comments of people.

      Go to Amazon and check the how-to books in this area and read comments of 3-star ratings.

      Collect as much information as you can so that you can design an irresistible offer.

      This exercise may take some time but when done correctly you will be able to get a steady stream of customers who you would have nailed with your offer.

      On the contrary, if you just go and list yourself with Upwork or RemoteCo or whatever then you are just going to fight for crumbs.

      Every extra hour you spend researching and creating your irresistible offer you are going to earn more no matter what.

      Best of Luck.
      Hi Amit.

      Thanks for leaving such useful information. I've made a note and it will be very useful to me and others, no doubt.

      Thanks,

      John
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

    I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

    Many thanks,

    John
    1. Yes, businesses need images and videos. No, they don't actively pursue it and they certainly don't know what they're talking about on this subject--meaning they don't know how to pick a good provider. In plain English, they don't know how to buy.

    That's good news.

    2. No, you do not want to compete in a freelance marketplace alongside many other similar providers. See #1 for the reason why: the market cannot tell the difference between y'all...so the service devolves to the lowest price.

    3. You DO want to appear in isolation: away from all other video/photo experts, so the prospect can't line you up against the others and make a spreadsheet to see what they can get for the lowest price.

    This means you need to develop your own target market.

    How do you do that?

    Niche down. WHO do you do these services for? What specifically do you take images and videos of? What outcome/result/purpose do you do these things to help your clients achieve?

    "Everyone" is a terrible target market. It's practically impossible to differentiate yourself with "everyone." Get specific. Who is likely to value you the most? Who can you get in front of, since your work is likely to be local for now?

    In your marketing, you stand out by a) appearing when unexpected and b) NOT TALKING ABOUT VIDEO/PHOTOGRAPHY.

    Talk instead about the problems you solve and the results your solutions bring your customers.

    Since I know your target market doesn't understand photography or videography, but they have a vague awareness that they need it, I would prepare a short report to educate them. WHY they need your services (show them an ever-expanding list of outcomes and reasons why and how they can incorporate what you do into their world)...and HOW to know a good provider from a bad one. You want to set up this list so it positions you as the ONLY provider who can do what they now suddenly know they need done. Hence the niching down: much easier to do the positioning job when you're talking to a specific person.

    Talk about what you do and you'll only succeed in driving yourself into the commodity realm.

    Talk instead about your niche, their problems, the results you get them.

    Oh, and get this book (not an affiliate link) https://www.amazon.com/When-They-Tha...dp/B00O94P30U/
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      1. Yes, businesses need images and videos. No, they don't actively pursue it and they certainly don't know what they're talking about on this subject--meaning they don't know how to pick a good provider. In plain English, they don't know how to buy.

      That's good news.

      2. No, you do not want to compete in a freelance marketplace alongside many other similar providers. See #1 for the reason why: the market cannot tell the difference between y'all...so the service devolves to the lowest price.

      3. You DO want to appear in isolation: away from all other video/photo experts, so the prospect can't line you up against the others and make a spreadsheet to see what they can get for the lowest price.

      This means you need to develop your own target market.

      How do you do that?

      Niche down. WHO do you do these services for? What specifically do you take images and videos of? What outcome/result/purpose do you do these things to help your clients achieve?

      "Everyone" is a terrible target market. It's practically impossible to differentiate yourself with "everyone." Get specific. Who is likely to value you the most? Who can you get in front of, since your work is likely to be local for now?

      In your marketing, you stand out by a) appearing when unexpected and b) NOT TALKING ABOUT VIDEO/PHOTOGRAPHY.

      Talk instead about the problems you solve and the results your solutions bring your customers.

      Since I know your target market doesn't understand photography or videography, but they have a vague awareness that they need it, I would prepare a short report to educate them. WHY they need your services (show them an ever-expanding list of outcomes and reasons why and how they can incorporate what you do into their world)...and HOW to know a good provider from a bad one. You want to set up this list so it positions you as the ONLY provider who can do what they now suddenly know they need done. Hence the niching down: much easier to do the positioning job when you're talking to a specific person.

      Talk about what you do and you'll only succeed in driving yourself into the commodity realm.

      Talk instead about your niche, their problems, the results you get them.

      Oh, and get this book (not an affiliate link) https://www.amazon.com/When-They-Tha...dp/B00O94P30U/
      Many thanks, Jason.

      Your contribution is excellent

      John
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    Originally Posted by John Marshall View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to this section of the forum and I'd appreciate some feedback from experienced offliners.

    I've developed a set of very good skills in making high quality videos and images. I am considering offering these skills as a service. I can make very good quality and engaging videos which may be useful to businesses in promoting their products and services either on their own websites or by sharing on social media.

    My question is - how much demand is there from businesses for this type of service?

    I'd be grateful for your thoughts about this - especially if you are an existing and experienced offliner.

    Many thanks,

    John
    These days video automation tools are taking over the video creation space.

    These type of software tend to be more an more sophisticated.

    People are looking for a software they can use to create a video with just a push of a button in a couple of minutes.

    Drag and drop some images and titles with music and narration, push a button and your video is ready.

    Then, upload it to all the platforms.

    This is what people want.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

      This is what some people want.
      Edited for accuracy.
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Edited for accuracy.

        Originally Posted by animal44 View Post

        Most (business) people want more sales...
        Hey guys, I get it. Not everyone wants an automated solution. I also get it that some businesses are going to create a professional promo video.

        A couple of thoughts about this:

        1. The market for video creation is huge. Over 90% of this market is video creation automation. That's my guess... I have not done any research on this. I am just trying to make a point.

        2. Businesses with more than 10 employees with a mid 6 figure turnover are more likely to hire a professional video production company to produce their promo video. They are likely to pay even upto $20K for this production. But, they will go to an established production company; they don't just hire a guy they find on a forum...

        That's my 2 cents...
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

          1. The market for video creation is huge. Over 90% of this market is video creation automation. That's my guess... I have not done any research on this. I am just trying to make a point..
          You can't make any point by pulling statistics out of your butt and then admitting their phony.

          This is beyond ludicrous. It's offensive.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Ray
            Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

            You can't make any point by pulling statistics out of your butt and then admitting their phony.

            This is beyond ludicrous. It's offensive.
            Talking about offensive... That's funny. Read your own comment, when you calmed down, then apologize.
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            • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
              Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

              apologize.
              Don't hold your breath. Over 100% of people that hold their breath for more than 4 minutes will probably die of asphyxia. That's my guess. I haven't done any research on this. I am just trying to make a point. lol

              Epic fail.

              P.S. I find it absolutely hysterical that you have "Data Science' in your avatar. You wouldn't know either if you tripped over them
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              • Profile picture of the author Joe Ray
                Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

                Don't hold your breath. Over 100% of people that hold their breath for more than 4 minutes will probably die of asphyxia. That's my guess. I haven't done any research on this. I am just trying to make a point. lol

                Epic fail.

                P.S. I find it absolutely hysterical that you have "Data Science' in your avatar. You wouldn't know either if you tripped over them
                Get some help... Praying & meditation, and/or more exercise and a vegetarian diet might help. Or, try fasting for a day.

                God bless.


                Btw, I am not religious, but I think you need a divine intervention. Most of us need a spiritual awakening, I am not putting you down; but, you're hostile in your posts for no reason. That's a sign of a problem with your perception of reality. I was not attacking you...

                PS. now I am noticing that you're picking a fight with others on the thread, not just me.

                Peace brother...
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                • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                  Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

                  Get some help... Praying & meditation, and/or more exercise and a vegetarian diet might help. Or, try fasting for a day.

                  God bless.


                  Btw, I am not religious, but I think you need a divine intervention. Most of us need a spiritual awakening, I am not putting you down; but, you're hostile in your posts for no reason. That's a sign of a problem with your perception of reality. I was not attacking you...

                  PS. now I am noticing that you're picking a fight with others on the thread, not just me.

                  Peace brother...
                  All I did was call-out your BS. They're your words. Even though you can't defend them, you should at least, as a man, cop to them. I understand, though. I'd be ashamed of them, also. :-)

                  "Over 90% of this market is video creation automation. That's my guess... I have not done any research on this. I am just trying to make a point."

                  You keep posting, though. You expose more of your true-self with each additional sentence and it is quite entertaininge.

                  Oh - BTW - I ain't your brother. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author animal44
      Originally Posted by Joe Ray View Post

      This is what people want.
      Most (business) people want more sales...
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    A few years ago I was talking with a video guy telling me he wanted to get into commercial jobs doing videos for business because he found bigger companies were paying up to $65,000 USD to the established video companies doing that kind of work. We're talking trucks showing up filled with A/V equipment and that level. I'm not certain but at lower levels looks like it may be helpful to not just do audio/visual but also provide the marketing copy, concept, etc. So maybe you want to hook up with a marketing company that could use an a/v arm to ramp up what they offer to their clients rather than going direct to business owners yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      A few years ago I was talking with a video guy telling me he wanted to get into commercial jobs doing videos for business because he found bigger companies were paying up to $65,000 USD to the established video companies doing that kind of work. We're talking trucks showing up filled with A/V equipment and that level. I'm not certain but at lower levels looks like it may be helpful to not just do audio/visual but also provide the marketing copy, concept, etc. So maybe you want to hook up with a marketing company that could use an a/v arm to ramp up what they offer to their clients rather than going direct to business owners yourself.
      Hey, it's the author of that book!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Marshall
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      A few years ago I was talking with a video guy telling me he wanted to get into commercial jobs doing videos for business because he found bigger companies were paying up to $65,000 USD to the established video companies doing that kind of work. We're talking trucks showing up filled with A/V equipment and that level. I'm not certain but at lower levels looks like it may be helpful to not just do audio/visual but also provide the marketing copy, concept, etc. So maybe you want to hook up with a marketing company that could use an a/v arm to ramp up what they offer to their clients rather than going direct to business owners yourself.

      Great contribution!

      Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author ctrlaltdelete
    Oh, it's always in demand alright.

    You could do some freelancing editing work on the side, but you'll have a lot of competition. Plenty of us (myself included) who hire from freelancing sites tend to pick first from the ones who charge the lowest prices (ex. India, Philippines. I do prefer the latter though. More pleasant to deal with most of the time. And I often get a bang for the buck).

    Video production would be a damn good idea. Once you have the capital, you could start your own production firm. The businesses who can pay you more are those who prefer having a professional team do their videos.
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    Not soo much
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Kren
    Trying to sell anything is hard unless you can show the business owner actual results that you have gotten for someone else. For example, with video, you used a video on FB to get 245 leads at $x per lead, and they made $xxxxxx revenue as a direct result.

    That makes the new guy want to buy, not the video or ad service offer.

    So if you know what you're doing then give it away a couple of times. manage someone's ad account for free (they still pay for the ads) and get them results in exchange for their case study and testimonial. Never try to sell "videos". You won't even be able to give them away.
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  • Profile picture of the author saibat11
    In this modern era of social media... success breads success. If this is something you want to do for a living... then you need to be doing it. You should have a Insta account.. you should have a youtube account.. you should be producing content image and video that represents you as an artist, and displays your abilities. In theory... jobs could and should follow ~ if you have the skills.
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  • Profile picture of the author electricguitar
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    In this service there is really a very high demand because lots of peoples are using this kind of video image services.
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  • Profile picture of the author acnescars
    This was really a great information to know about video image service. I think i am the only person who is not in update about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Expert
    This is one of the high demanding service Offline. People love visuals and business owners knows it as well. All you need to put up some great samples in an ipad, and reach out to some of the local clients like restaurants , Doctors , auto parts etc and show them what you can do. Should get some orders in the first week.
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