Dealing with Big Client's Impression of your "Small" Company?

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When I'm dealing with big clients (those that employs thousands of employees), they often ask the question: How many employees do you have? It's a question which sometimes wants me to throw a big number and lie. But the truth is, the number of fingers in my hands are far greater than the number of my employees.

It seems to turn them off if you mention a low number that reflects you being a small company. It's clear that they would want to work with a company as "big" as them and I understand that they care about credibility. But it's annoying when in reality all that matters is results not company size.

Apparently, some of them would also ask if you have dealt with "corporate" accounts because having mom and pop shops in my portfolio doesn't impress them.

It's kind of a chicken and egg thing: Big clients wants to deal with big firms only. But then, how do small firms get big if they can't get deals from big clients in the first place?

So, how would you justify that you are okay to do business with? Since in reality what matters most is the results you can provide and not how many employees you have. Any tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
    Originally Posted by Mark Brian View Post

    When I'm dealing with big clients (those that employs thousands of employees), they often ask the question: How many employees do you have? It's a question which sometimes wants me to throw a big number and lie. But the truth is, the number of fingers in my hands are far greater than the number of my employees.

    It seems to turn them off if you mention a low number that reflects you being a small company. It's clear that they would want to work with a company as "big" as them and I understand that they care about credibility. But it's annoying when in reality all that matters is results not company size.

    Apparently, some of them would also ask if you have dealt with "corporate" accounts because having mom and pop shops in my portfolio doesn't impress them.

    It's kind of a chicken and egg thing: Big clients wants to deal with big firms only. But then, how do small firms get big if they can't get deals from big clients in the first place?

    So, how would you justify that you are okay to do business with? Since in reality what matters most is the results you can provide and not how many employees you have. Any tips?

    Mark,
    heres a simple way to diffuse that... I would say...

    Mr (Big Client) is a Big Corporation what you looking to work with? [be quiet here and wait for a response] if they say yes, you say Great, and take off with a leading question. If they answer is no, say Great, and take off with a leading or probing question.

    I can count on 2 fingers the times this has come up... Yep, Twice, both times, i handled it this way, with the same result. Secured new clients, without all the scuttle butt.

    Heres another great example...

    Do you offer Pink Elephants to Purple Gorilla Clients? Well sir, are pink elephants what your looking for ? Well not exactly, GREAT, let me ask you a couple of questions to better understand your business... DOES THAT SOUND FAIR?

    there you go...
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  • Profile picture of the author Digital Traffic
    Just tell people that you have a small in house staff, but you network with and employ many of the finest professionals in their respective fields on a case by case basis.

    Need a Graphic Designer, I have several, need a good Insurance Rep, I got the best there is. Etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Just dont try to act like a big shot in the first place. Tell them you are independent. You would be surprised how many people will work with you just because they are endeared to your entrepreneurial spirit... just tell them "Honestly we are just starting out...pretty much its just me and my partner..." (or whatever).

    Being pretentious about your company size leads to a tangled web later.

    yes, also add that you are a part of a huge network of internet marketers who you call on at will when you need assistance for big jobs.

    Then justify it by saying "it makes more sense for us at this point, than having to have a group of fulltime employees..., honestly we get the same results, maybe even for less cost..."

    They, having employees, will understand that justification.

    If not "CYA". Move on. dont jump through hoops in order to pretend you are something that you arent. It will be more headache than its worth down the road when they want to come visit your office. These days its no biggie to say We work from home.

    I know guys that have big companies with employees, and honestly you have as much chance getting an appointment with them as any big web company.

    Just make sure they are endeared to "YOU"... sell "YOU". Your character, the integrity you demonstrate, and knowing that you arent going to ditch them midstream is their main concern.

    Dont fall into the "pretentious trap" for anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Just dont try to act like a big shot in the first place. Tell them you are independent. You would be surprised how many people will work with you just because they are endeared to your entrepreneurial spirit... just tell them "Honestly we are just starting out...pretty much its just me and my partner..." (or whatever).

      Being pretentious about your company size on leads to a tangled web later.

      yes, also add that you are a part of a huge network of internet marketers who you call on at will when you need assistance for big jobs.

      The justify it by saying "it makes more sense for us at this point, than having to have a group of fulltime employees..., honestly we get the same results, maybe even for less cost..."

      They, having employees, will understand that justification.

      If not "CYA". Move on. dont jump through hoops in order to pretend you are something that you arent. It will be more headache than its worth down the road when they want to come visit your office. These days its no biggie to say We work from home.

      I know guys that have big companies with employees, and honestly you have as much chance getting an appointment with them as any big web company.

      Just make sure they are endeared to "YOU"... sell "YOU". Your character, the integrity you demonstrate, and knowing that you arent going to ditch them midstream is their main concern.

      Dont fall into the "pretentious trap" for anything.
      Agreed with John. Your true advantage is that you have hustle and that the company is yours. So you have to give them what an executive of a small company can, up front when possible.

      CT
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    • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Just dont try to act like a big shot in the first place. Tell them you are independent. You would be surprised how many people will work with you just because they are endeared to your entrepreneurial spirit... just tell them "Honestly we are just starting out...pretty much its just me and my partner..." (or whatever).

      Being pretentious about your company size leads to a tangled web later.

      yes, also add that you are a part of a huge network of internet marketers who you call on at will when you need assistance for big jobs.

      Then justify it by saying "it makes more sense for us at this point, than having to have a group of fulltime employees..., honestly we get the same results, maybe even for less cost..."

      They, having employees, will understand that justification.

      If not "CYA". Move on. dont jump through hoops in order to pretend you are something that you arent. It will be more headache than its worth down the road when they want to come visit your office. These days its no biggie to say We work from home.

      I know guys that have big companies with employees, and honestly you have as much chance getting an appointment with them as any big web company.

      Just make sure they are endeared to "YOU"... sell "YOU". Your character, the integrity you demonstrate, and knowing that you arent going to ditch them midstream is their main concern.

      Dont fall into the "pretentious trap" for anything.
      GREAT Share!

      Additionally yif perhaps you show results of high ranking keyword or professional portfolio regardless if you were working with mom and pops shops they would understand you have the ability and capability of achieving their goals ...maybe even for less.

      Add that with the quote above and I think it should fair pretty well? Sorry just my try at things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    I agree, just tell the truth. Yup we are a small company, we basically serve local business and therefor we don't need to be huge. Should your project require additional man power we are more then able to meet the demands of what you need. yadda yadda.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Ps. High probability selling isnt only limited to small companies. Dial alot of numbers and keep moving till you come across the CEO who is gonna give you low resistance, the secretary who puts you right through... with enough numbers you will get that. In the end , landing a client is worth it, and with enough dials, you absolutely will.

    Small companies are not the only kind that the high probability approach works on, despite what some think.

    Then after you have a few sales... even a HUGE one, you can say "Yeah we just did a project for coca cola (or whatever) , and using that credibility you will start closing every other person you talk to.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardHK
    Excuse me if already noted above but another key advantage to the client using a small(er) independent service is cost. The client is not paying for expensive overheads like plush offices and redundent staff. Tell them that too.
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  • Profile picture of the author mr2monster
    I've been asked that one time and I countered with "We have a community of workers that will have no problem getting the job done".

    I'm the sole employee of my company... but I have lots of contractors/outsourced workers that I work with. Rather than trying to explain that I don't want to employ anyone and would rather work with contractors.. I just call them my "community of workers".

    Seemed to work fine, I've had that client for just over a year now... As long as you can get the job done, does the amount of employees really matter?
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    • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
      If you have to be asked how many employees you have, you are not positioning yourself well enough from the get-go.

      I have no employees, and have never once been asked how many employees I have (and I've been in business for nearly 30 years).

      Think about all the advantages of having no employees (quick-moving, independent, no red tape, low overhead, etc.) and highlight those in the way you present yourself.

      This way, you don't need to be defensive about your ability to deliver the goods. Only the ones who understand and value those advantages will want to do business with you - and that is a good thing.

      Never try to be something you're not. It's one secret of having a thriving business.

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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    I only work with medium to large companies. My response is, "As a smaller organization, we're able to rapidly staff up and down as needed to meet the needs of our clients. You will usually only work with a single point of contact, me or one of my customer-facing top project leads."
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    • Profile picture of the author Etak
      I think one of the concerns the larger companies might have is that if you don't have enough employees, you won't be able to handle all the work that the company needs to be completed (just their belief since they are a bigger company...it may not be the case at all).

      Are you counting the people you outsource to? Technically, they may be independent contractors and not employees, but if they would be doing work on the project, I would definitely count them in the "employee" list to show the potential client that you have plenty of staff to work on their campaign.

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      • Profile picture of the author TK1
        Nice topic, many of my starting clients of my business template have this issue.

        You have following possibilities:

        Act like you are a big guy who has a big company - DUMB, NEVER DO THAT!

        Tell the truth like "I work by myself and I'm a little guy, but hey, give me a chance" - DUMB, TOO - Too much of the truth, people can't handle that.

        My suggestion is:

        Tell them all your clients are private and you don't disclose who you work for.

        Plus you can be lucky in today's times outsourcing is a MUST and you can get away with having your office at home.

        Jeff Walker told me once "They don't ask anyway" LOL

        Everybody knows that superficial stuff plays a bigger role than many would admit.

        Try meeting clients all in their offices or meet outside somewhere when starting out.

        Parking your 6 times crashed car NOT right infront of your prospects office will help too

        TK
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Personally i prefer not to deal with big clients who have big egos.

    Working with SME's is so much easier and still extremely profitable.

    If you do want to deal with the bigger clients then the advice given in this thread is extremely useful.

    I have conducted seminars for individual marketing departments of larger organisations but i prefer not to take them on as clients.

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  • Profile picture of the author Digital Info Diva
    Originally Posted by Mark Brian View Post

    When I'm dealing with big clients (those that employs thousands of employees), they often ask the question: How many employees do you have? It's a question which sometimes wants me to throw a big number and lie. But the truth is, the number of fingers in my hands are far greater than the number of my employees.

    So, how would you justify that you are okay to do business with? Since in reality what matters most is the results you can provide and not how many employees you have. Any tips?
    This is really easier than you'd think. One thing offline businesses understand
    today is downsizing and budget cuts. And that's exactly how you run your
    business - lean and mean.

    I sell my services as a "virtual business." This immediately separates me
    from their big business mentality and forces them to ask what that means.
    I then tell them that I keep a staff of virtual technical workers who work
    on special projects. I manage the virtual staff and their projects to the
    requirements of each client.

    All they really want to know is how high you can jump when they need
    you to jump!
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