Google Places Please Help

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This client didn't have a Places listing, so I had to start fresh. I know it needs some videos, and reviews. I did about 20 citations, that haven't shown up yet, as it has been less than 90 days since I created them.

My question is, even though it's new, shouldn't it at least show up when I type in the main keyword I am after for the area? Please help me understand, if I'm doing something wrong, or it takes a while for a new listing to index for the keyword.

Here is the area it should show up for, as this is the main keyword.

roofing greenville sc

his listing is andy morris construction greenville sc

The site is optimized for this keyword, and ranks organically at the top of page 2.

Thanks in advance for the help.
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  • Sorry to say but you are violating Google guidelines and it's very likely your client's listing will get rejected or suspended. Not sure if that's what's holding you back, but need to change it.

    You can't use geo keywords in the categories, so need to remove Roofing Greenville SC, Remodeling Greenville SC. You already have roofing contractor listed so do keyword research to find another key phrase and then use Home Remodeling contractor or company.

    To be on the safe side remove city from description. You have it in there twice which Google considers spamming. Plus don't repeat phone # in your added details section either.

    VERY IMPORTANT - he has bunch of citations he's not getting credit for due to having a different phone # listed. (864) 551-4000 "andy morris construction" (864) 551-4000 - Google Search

    Correct the # on Yahoo, Dex, Yellow pages and Super Pages and that will help a lot.

    Also your links in the added details section are wonky. This is not affecting the ranking but looks bad so should be fixed. Put something like visit us on Merchant Circle in the left box and the link on the right and that will fix it.

    Fix all that, add at least 3 YouTube videos about construction that are popular and have lots of views. Then wait a month and see if the ranking picks up.

    Hope this helps and best of luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author TracyZ
      Good reminder on avoiding the geo keywords in the categories. I made that mistake once (thought it was ok since it was approved during the verification process). Fortunately it was removed before it had a negative impact.

      It is safest to stick with the categories offered in the drop down menu.

      Another great resource on this subject are the official Google Places Help pages. Yes they are dry reading but necessary for following best practices!
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      • Profile picture of the author Deepikarajpal
        Same is with me..i have sites that appear on 2nd page of google places and i tried alot by doing is submission it to other business directories or websites also i promote url of that site by doing tiny url but till now it dont appear in first page of google..so anyone please suggest way to bring listing to first page
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        • Profile picture of the author SamyE
          Two Points.

          1/ if you want places on the SERPS you got to set the page up so it is local centric and local focused. See my earlier reply. Then you got to get google to see and list it under the places listing with the little red alphabet number next to it ... places style

          2/ Next
          You need to check and determine your ranking for google places once it has been picked up and ranked with in the places listings. Check the top 10 and list the number of citations, reviews, pic, vids, then list where the citations and reviews are coming from.

          Next is to work on you double check your on page seo for both the citation and local centric SEO

          Next once all the onpage set is complete and strong move on to the offpage seo and build strong citations, reviews, and targeted local centric backlinks using your preferred keywords and key word friendly anchor text.

          Google is now heavly useing the seo and key word ranking as one of the main factors in ranking places page. So now you need strong citations, strong reviews, and strong onpage and offpage seo rankings. Especialy in larg competative markets.

          You will need the ability to edit and change the web site for on page seo work. If your hands are tied because you can not get the changed made then you are doomed to fail. The only other option is to create a new different page and set that up correctly then 1) update and change the web site URL in the places page and 2) point your "location and directions" page to your places listing via a direct link and coping the places map code that places gives you. Many have uses InsiderPages.com as their web site and because it is authorative get good ranking when it is set up and using good seo. However this is not as flexable as your own web page.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tess D
            Hi Scionmarketing -
            I have sent you a PM with a list of the top 30 sites you need to be on for your citations specifically generated for your local area and keyword, to help you out.
            Also, I didn't see some info in your listing like service area, hours of operation, additional details etc - those little entries make google places happy.

            I do see you on google maps in the A slot, and you have a ton of organic rankings, so that is good. I rank sites in organic and places listings all the time, so I don't believe that you can't be in both as previously stated on the thread - that makes no sense at all.

            I would just suggest continuing to clean up the listing and get all of the info filled in, and also using the service that I sent to you in the PM - it is one I use and I've never had bad results.

            Best!
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            • Profile picture of the author mattlwil
              Anyone else notice that when you type in your keyword with geo, the places results are using the websites metas? And when you type in keyword without geo, places results uses the places account title and description?

              Keyword without geo is what I'm currently working on/trying to figure out. On my keyword in quotes I'm result #15 out of 7,090,000 pages and I'm not even in the 7 box on places >.< LOL

              Anyway, back on topic, thanks for the info in this thread. I'm always lurking trying to get information. I had a geo keyword in categories on another listing I'm working on and removed that right away. And I didn't know you could use some one else's you tube video in the listing.

              Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Casslay
    I can't understand what you want to say, Are you promoting your web link through putting links. But you can't do this..! If you putting your links as targeted then you can promote your web site at first page of Google.. It is so easy, By the way what is your target, then I'll tell you about your posts..!
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    • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
      Originally Posted by Casslay View Post

      I can't understand what you want to say, Are you promoting your web link through putting links. But you can't do this..! If you putting your links as targeted then you can promote your web site at first page of Google.. It is so easy, By the way what is your target, then I'll tell you about your posts..!
      WhAT?

      I couldn't understand that at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
        Originally Posted by Casslay View Post

        I can't understand what you want to say, Are you promoting your web link through putting links. But you can't do this..! If you putting your links as targeted then you can promote your web site at first page of Google.. It is so easy, By the way what is your target, then I'll tell you about your posts..!
        Originally Posted by Amir Luis View Post

        WhAT?

        I couldn't understand that at all.
        Amir,

        Can't you spot forum posting spam when you see it? :rolleyes:

        Wait a few days (or weeks) and watch what links this user drops into their signature. I've been seeing a lot of these spammers hit the WF the past few months.

        For years there have been marketers here selling packages and training on how to use other people's forums for spam backlinks... now we're seeing it here.

        Guess the chickens have come home to roost.


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  • Profile picture of the author localbusinessguy
    You should only include the city name and business type if that is actually the business name.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbrShorty
    Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

    This client didn't have a Places listing, so I had to start fresh. I know it needs some videos, and reviews. I did about 20 citations, that haven't shown up yet, as it has been less than 90 days since I created them.

    My question is, even though it's new, shouldn't it at least show up when I type in the main keyword I am after for the area? Please help me understand, if I'm doing something wrong, or it takes a while for a new listing to index for the keyword.

    Here is the area it should show up for, as this is the main keyword.

    roofing greenville sc

    his listing is andy morris construction greenville sc

    The site is optimized for this keyword, and ranks organically at the top of page 2.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
    Is your listing pending/suspended/rejected?
    If no - I don't think this is the problem.

    The Place has 0 reviews and 0 citations picked. It is impossible to rank high in this condition. Which directories did you submit it to? Some directories are getting picked as citations very slowly. I would suggest you to submit to Super Pages, Hotfrog, Judy's Book, City Search, Yahoo! Local, BridgAT, Mojo Pages, they are the fastest picked generic directories.

    When you start getting citations and a few reviews, your listing will definitely not only rank high, but it will probably soon go to rank 1, because the competition is rather weak for your keywords.

    Hope that helps,
    Nyagoslav
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by Casslay View Post

      I can't understand what you want to say, Are you promoting your web link through putting links. But you can't do this..! If you putting your links as targeted then you can promote your web site at first page of Google.. It is so easy, By the way what is your target, then I'll tell you about your posts..!
      Originally Posted by Amir Luis View Post

      WhAT?

      I couldn't understand that at all.
      Originally Posted by JoeCool View Post

      Amir,

      Can't you spot forum posting spam when you see it? :rolleyes:

      Wait a few days (or weeks) and watch what links this user drops into their signature. I've been seeing a lot of these spammers hit the WF the past few months.
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      Whoomp, There It Is! >>>> Phoenix Homes for Sale


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  • Profile picture of the author sconlinemarketing
    My listing is active, and why am I getting so much spam in this post. I would like some straight up advice, please. Thanks to those who are trying to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Woityra
    Ok first I would recommend "Google Places Unleashed by Mario Brown". Went through his course and it was awesome. It will show you step by step what to do. Second if you don't want the course and some advice, here it is. All citations have to be identical to get credit.

    Example:

    abcroofing.com
    ABC Roofing
    123 Elm Street Suite #A
    Miami, CA 33232
    1-800-555-5555

    This citation should be put in all of the description boxes for your youtube videos and identical for all other places. Sameway every time, NO EXCUSES!

    Mixed up keywords for roofers ==> tile roofs, rubber roofs, roofing leaks, roof repairs miami, roofers miami.

    All the examples above are fake but you can use them as an example. Just model after them.

    Hope this helps!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author sconlinemarketing
    I know you need citations, and they all need to be exactly like the G-places listing. My original question was, for new listings, even though they are active, and optimized, how long does it take to show up in the keyword listings. I now have 3 clients with new listings, and none of them are showing up for the keywords I optimized. Not even further back in the listings. So again, with your experience, how long does a brand new optimized listing take to show up in the listings? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
    Did you not see the very first response from Catalyst eMarketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author SamyE
    You need to properly seo optimize the web page for EITHER Places OR organic. Google will not allow the same web page to rank and list for both.

    If the client wants Places then you need to properly optimize the web page for places. Ist start with the suggestions by Catalyst eMarketing

    Then take the citation and add it to the footer of each and every page on the web site, then add a page called location and directions, and add the complete contact information and citation information, then gram the html code from places for the places map with his red dot location and insert it in the same location and directions pages.

    Right now Google is choosing to list the clients page under the ORGANIC listings and not the places listings. So you need to optimize it for places and "force" google to see it as belonging in the places listings and not the organic listings.

    Next Buy the product recommended above my Mario Brown.

    Next cut each of us a check and say thanks for helping and thanks for the suggestions. Lastly feel free to outsource the complete project and mark it up as much as you need.

    You can then continue building citations and creating lots of reviews, and don't forget that on page SEO is also a big part of places now with the new algorythem.

    You need a current google places product to lay out the complete sratagy and process as apparently you are using out dated teqniques that are frowned upon by google (see previous post)
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiduslite8
    Going back to the original poster.

    I just looked at the place page for Andy Morris Construction.
    5 pictures on place page
    no videos on place page
    no citations showing
    no office hours showing
    very basic description

    If you want this to rank, there is a bit more work that needs to be done. Along with a few others I recommend the "Google Places Unleashed" by Mario Brown. I bought the course from him, learned some things I didn't know before, and got a client ranked Page 1 Position A within 15 minutes of me making the change.

    And it was for a very competitive search term for the area. Previously the client was not appearing on page 1 local places.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedHat39
    As others have said you can optimize for Places or you can optimize for SERPs. Google in most cases won't give you both. My brother tried to do this with his asphalt sealing business and got his Places listing totally delisted. I went back through and optimized his site for a Places ranking and now he's #1 and getting two or three calls a day from it.

    The big key for getting my brother's Places listing showing again was:
    1) Having the "exact" address he had listed on his Places listing in the title of his website's first page (index page)
    2) Setting up hotfrog, super pages, and yellow page listings again using the "exact" address as it is on Google Places.
    3) Using a phone number in the Places listing that is area code specific to the area he was targeting - he was using an 877 or 866 number before.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattlwil
      Any live links for this "Google places unleashed" from this Mario Brown guy out there?

      Or an ETA if version 2.0?

      I'm not finding any live download links...
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