How Do You Build Your Offline Web Design/SEO Team?

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I've been going to some chamber of commerce meetings, aggressively pursuing potential clients, and some doors have opened for me

I'm getting more contacts who are interested in both websites and SEO.

So far I have outsourced article writing and link building on the warrior forum.

I also outsource the web building part.

I'm trying to think how I can outsource the whole thing, except for maybe the keyword research.

I want to outsource the facebook and google places part as well.

Any ideas from people who are succeeding by making their operation more efficient so they can take on more clients?

Thanks in advance,

Patrick
#build #design or seo #offline #team #web
  • Profile picture of the author titu01
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    You can technically outsource almost every aspect of your business then. Even keyword research you could just hire someone for that, along with link building and on page optimization. Find some warriors to do this for you, or outsource on fiverr.... I do everything myself for the most part, still outsource a few things here and there.
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
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    you can use odesk.....
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  • Profile picture of the author EliteIM
    The problem with outsourcing is finding a reliable service provider. This is why having an in-house team is always beneficial - the quality so gained would never come from freelancers since you would be personally overseeing all aspects, be it designing, SEO or PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Outsourcing can be a pain as some of the more experienced folks in here can tell you, but it's a good way to create a small and trusted team around you. You'll need time and dedication to achieve it but it can be done.

    One word of advice: freelancers (especially when they are "new" in your team) can take a lot of time from your daily schedule, so in the end you don't have more time to meet new clients Just a headsup.

    All the best!
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    Can anybody told me about Freelancer
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  • Profile picture of the author bhupindrverma
    m using odesk from last 5 months and i think this is the best site for outsourcing... you can also find employee there at very cheap rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Hale
    I like to use Odesk and create teams I have a programming team,design,SEO and article writing team. Most importantly, a project manager who manages them all =)
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  • Profile picture of the author redcell1
    In all reality all your outsourcers can be from WF.

    SEO can be handled by almost anyone here.

    Google places, there are a few threads with people who will create and optimize the listing. Also get you citations,backlinks etc.

    Facebook pages - There are various threads of facebook page designers that can design something quickly that your client will love for about $200 I think ?

    Web Design - this is a bit tricky but there are plenty of providers as well who are here that should fit what your looking for.
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    • Profile picture of the author Patrick Warren
      Thanks for all the great responses. Heading over to Odesk to check it out.

      Have a great weekend!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Tran
        I have a combination of inhouse team and external outsourced team.

        While it is "easy" to get people to work for you at places like oDesk, Scriptlance, ELance, and such, the hard part is project management and checking their work.

        Do yourself a favor. Find a project manager that you can trust. Hire her a fair rate. Then have her report the exceptions to you.

        BTW. I use Basecamp to manage people's tasks.
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        • Profile picture of the author Charliebee
          Originally Posted by Alex Tran View Post

          BTW. I use Basecamp to manage people's tasks.
          what is Basecamp? Does it work like M$FT Project?
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  • Profile picture of the author Warrior AllStars
    I have some good advice...

    Dont have a team.

    Have one person who is proficient at organizing teams. My one web guy can pull 3 different types of outsourcers together in ONE evening... and the only thing I pay is what I pay him. I never meet them or know their names, I never know who did what work,,, and furthermore, I dont care... its all him as far as Im concerned.

    I pay what you would pay anyone really. But he has ways and a network and resources that he profits that way.

    One partner handles sales and the other fulfillment.

    I dont have to talk to anyone but him.

    Thats what I do.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Originally Posted by Warrior AllStars View Post

      Dont have a team.

      Have one person who is proficient at organizing teams. My one web guy can
      pull 3 different types of outsourcers together in ONE evening... and the only
      thing I pay is what I pay him. I never meet them or know their names, I never
      know who did what work,,, and furthermore, I dont care... its all him as far as
      Im concerned.

      I pay what you would pay anyone really. But he has ways and a network and
      resources that he profits that way.

      One partner handles sales and the other fulfillment.

      I dont have to talk to anyone but him.

      Thats what I do.
      Wow, I could NEVER do that and couldn't recommend others to do the same.
      (pertaining to one person having total control) If I trust one person to do all
      that and am not familiar with the team and for some reason I'm out with that
      one person...

      I'm SOL, big time.

      If you want a project manager, teach him/her what you need and have him/her
      put the team together, but know their contact information and most all the
      details that's pertinent to YOUR business. Keep in some contact with the team
      so they get to know you and vice-versa. In the event you are out with the
      project manager, you can pick up the pieces and move on.

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  • Profile picture of the author IrisEyes
    Originally Posted by Patrick Warren View Post

    I've been going to some chamber of commerce meetings, aggressively pursuing potential clients, and some doors have opened for me

    I'm getting more contacts who are interested in both websites and SEO.

    So far I have outsourced article writing and link building on the warrior forum.

    I also outsource the web building part.

    I'm trying to think how I can outsource the whole thing, except for maybe the keyword research.

    I want to outsource the facebook and google places part as well.

    Any ideas from people who are succeeding by making their operation more efficient so they can take on more clients?

    Thanks in advance,

    Patrick
    Hello Patrick i think I can help you with the link building and the keyword research that you need,I am from the Philippines and you can pay me a way cheaper. I am looking for several opportunities at the moment too. If you are interested please send me an email thru ..yourbrain@gmx.com . looking forward to hearing from u.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bennette
      I use Odesk on occasion to find freelancers that I need for various tasks but it can be time consuming because you have to shift through a lot of B.S.

      I prefer to build my on team. What works for me is to find a key person and have them build for me. I've managed employees for yrs and have learned the key to keeping them a long time is to allow them to have input.

      I found my seo person from a forum and after working with him for over 6 mos I made him the manager. Then when I need people I let him build the team. That way he's responsible for managing them and he feels appreciated.

      I get reports of everything he is doing so if he quits I'm not stuck. This works best for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
    I think on WF you got everything you need to get started.Looking to hire people on odesk or other freelancer sites could be a pain in the a**.In here, we are all friends and want to succeed.Give it a try.
    If you need cheap custom mobile websites specific to every business i can help you.
    I hope you will finally get the team you're looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author ehawkmarketer
    Elance is a pain. Basecamp is a project management whiteboard so you can basically do conference calls and put everything on one page. It allows you to track daily progress, daily meetings, and make your company open-- its good if you need to talk a lot to your bees.

    I don't know what M$ST is.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I test about 10 people and put them on a testing phase....its almost like what they do with you when you enter a temp job.

    Then if you like them, keep them, if not, ditch them. Simple as that.

    Most people try to complicate this process. When it doesnt have to be that complicated at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    This is the process I have personally used and it works well for me.

    Right now you are doing a lot of things over and over. Some take a lot of time, some don't. The most valuable two things you have in your business are your knowledge and your time.

    If you have things that are taking a lot of time, then you can't apply your knowledge to multiple projects at once. The most successful people aren't the ones who work the hardest or know the most, they are the people who are good at getting other people to do things for them.

    Simply outsource the task that is taking up most of your time and keeping you from doing the things that make money.

    It doesn't matter which task it is, whichever one you find yourself doing constantly and wishing you could be doing other things is the one you outsource first.

    Simply create exact directions explaining the task. This could be a video, some text instructions, templates you use or whatever. Just be sure you give very complete directions. The people you are hiring may not see things the way you so do be sure to communicate every aspect clearly.

    If your budget to outsource is $100, split that up to 4-5 people with high reviews and good experience. Odesk is great for this.

    So, if you split it 5 ways, you will have 5 people you pay $20 each. The person who does it best...keeps doing it for you. Just eliminate the other four. Keep their info handy though...if the first person becomes unreliable, fire and replace them.

    Soon, you will have another task that is eating up your time, and you can do the same with that one.
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  • Profile picture of the author RKCastillo
    I focused on putting up ads on the philipinnes craigslist.

    And I try to find workers who can fulfill each part of my business.
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  • Profile picture of the author bkat52
    When you hire from odesk or elance or wherever...in the US, is there something you need to do as far as taxes? For those of you in the US who have hired someone from odesk, how do you pay them (paypal?) ?
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  • Profile picture of the author bkat52
    Maybe I'm cheap, but when I looked through odesk the rates people were charging seemed kind of high ..
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  • Profile picture of the author JRampage
    Originally Posted by Patrick Warren View Post

    Any ideas from people who are succeeding by making their operation more efficient so they can take on more clients?

    Thanks in advance,

    Patrick
    When Outsourcing dont just have 1 contact have up to min 3 so you dont have to depend on one particular person if things go bad.
    What i also did was hire a project manager (you can use a VA or an in house staff) to deal with the outsource people and the clients.
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