[Method] Flyers can make you easy cash!

11 years ago

I can't bring myself to get those low income likely compulsive gamblers to get into more **** than they already are. It's just me.

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Sander M

11 years ago

Sounds great, I've never really been in the gambling niche, I'll definitely try it out.

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Baadier Sydow

11 years ago

Morally sketchy but a very clever use of offline to convert online.

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Aaron Doud

11 years ago

I believe that yes this would be illegal in the US but a great idea.

Can people think of US legal versions? Does Aaron's or rent-a-center have an offer we could use? How about home security in better neighborhoods? This outside the box like this if you need cash now.

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s1ngular1ty 11 years ago

For US guys looking to put a spin on this. I think you need to look for two things.

First and most importantly an affiliate program that offers lifetime revshare. This is really important so that you dont spend the rest of your life handing out flyers, only getting paid once for every conversion!

Secondly you need to think about how you can target your flyering. You can target very precisely geograhpically, and you can target very precisely on household income, options that aren't often available online. How can you use this to your advantage?

There must be something out there that fits this criteria. Any ideas?
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jasonthewebmaster

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Aaron Doud

I believe that yes this would be illegal in the US but a great idea.

Can people think of US legal versions? Does Aaron's or rent-a-center have an offer we could use? How about home security in better neighborhoods? This outside the box like this if you need cash now.

There is nothing illegal about this!

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vndnbrgj

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster

There is nothing illegal about this!

No, there is nothing illegal about delivering flyers....
However, in most states, online gambling is illegal... And I believe that is what they were getting at.
There are some online gambling sites that are allowed in the US, but you have to check with your state laws to make sure it is legal in your state.
For example, it's illegal in Michigan, where I am.

So, I couldn't go out and market online gambling like the OP did..
I would have to market a different product/service.

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jasonthewebmaster

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by vndnbrgj

No, there is nothing illegal about delivering flyers....
However, in most states, online gambling is illegal... And I believe that is what they were getting at.
There are some online gambling sites that are allowed in the US, but you have to check with your state laws to make sure it is legal in your state.
For example, it's illegal in Michigan, where I am.

So, I couldn't go out and market online gambling like the OP did..
I would have to market a different product/service.

Most states have never prosecuted anyone for online gambling online, it's an un-enforced law.

Besides, if you actually READ THE LAW in your state, you will see that the laws against online gambling specifically refer to PLACING BETS, not activities such as playing poker or blackjack.

EITHER WAY you could STILL do this method even if it's illegal in most states, because most people will gamble online anyway, never get in trouble, and never realize it "may" be illegal.

I am not trying to pick a fight, just want people to know this method WILL WORK no matter where you live!!!

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RentItNow

11 years ago

I'll be trying this soon with payday loans but coming at if from a way different angle. s1ngular1ty, are you getting results on this? Very curious if this can give a ROI or not.

Btw, your statement regarding low-income and gambling is partially true but would be more accurate with middle-class. Millionaires are rarely gamblers according to the book Millionaire Mind. I lived in vegas for 13 years of my life and saw many a house-wife/middle class guy put in their families house into slots.

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s1ngular1ty

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RentItNow

I'll be trying this soon with payday loans but coming at if from a way different angle. s1ngular1ty, are you getting results on this? Very curious if this can give a ROI or not.

Yeh I am doing well out of it. My big tip is to make sure you keep the price of the flyers low, I made a mistake initally producing glossy colour flyers thinking that it would attract more attention. Problem was the flyers ended up being so expensive it was hard to get a decent ROI.

I have since discovered that so long as the headline offer is good, the quality of the flyers doesnt seem to make too much difference to conversions. Also, order as many flyers as you can, I'm talking 10,000 plus, gives you much more bargaining power with the printers.

Originally Posted by RentItNow

Btw, your statement regarding low-income and gambling is partially true but would be more accurate with middle-class. Millionaires are rarely gamblers according to the book Millionaire Mind. I lived in vegas for 13 years of my life and saw many a house-wife/middle class guy put in their families house into slots.

Interesting, I do ocassionaly mix it up and hit some middle class estates. But I couldnt say if they give a better ROI or not. I always just assumed working class people gamble more. Looks like I need to work on my targeting!

I'll try making different new URLs with different subid links attached and then assign them to hit specific income housing and then post my results.

Originally Posted by agonce

To the OP: You should try this with football(soccer) mate, I know England goes crazy about it and every bettor will be spending a lot of money once they are hooked up. Check out bet365 and other similar sites. I wish I was in the UK, this could easily make you thousands per month.

Funny you should mention this but I did try something very similiar. I made a load of flyers as described in the OP with free sports bets and then stood outside the soccer stadium on match day and handed them out. Can easliy hand out hundreds in no time. I guess you could try this with any sporting venue.

You could even put a further spin on this by making flyers with offers that would appeal to music fans, then stand outside a concert and hand them out!

You wouldn't even need to find revshare offers because you would spend such a relatively short amount of time handing them out. A couple of hours work flyering could really generate some income if you find the right offer.

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sweetcrabhoney18

11 years ago

I'm doing something similar here in California.. with mother's day only a month away it's time for the mom's in my area to start thinking gifts.. and woman love shoes so I'm marketing a shoe membership type site...I think it will be profitable.. The gambling idea is really smart. I'm glad it worked for you!

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agonce

11 years ago

To the OP: You should try this with football(soccer) mate, I know England goes crazy about it and every bettor will be spending a lot of money once they are hooked up. Check out bet365 and other similar sites. I wish I was in the UK, this could easily make you thousands per month.

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Jeff Lenney

11 years ago

I'd rather help poor people MAKE money, not take it from them....

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jasonthewebmaster Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

I'd rather help poor people MAKE money, not take it from them....

But if you never take any money from anyone, then you will never make money! LOL
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- mbitsol 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster
  
  But if you never take any money from anyone, then you will never make money! LOL
  
  He is talking about the poor people :rolleyes:
  
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  jasonthewebmaster Banned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mbitsol
  
  He is talking about the poor people :rolleyes:
  
  Duh. My point stands. How would you know who has money and who doesn't? Just because of a particular neighborhood they live in? Not everyone in the "ghetto" is broke! Haven't you ever heard of being "Ghetto Rich"? LOL
  
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- JMB Marketing Group 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jasonthewebmaster
  
  But if you never take any money from anyone, then you will never make money! LOL
  
  eljeffe77 didn't say that!
  
  He said, "I would rather help poor people make money rather than take from them".
  
  This means far from anyone! There are middle-class and rich people to take from (not just the poor, which I endorse and wholeheartedly agree with)!
  
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Eddie Spangler

11 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

I'd rather help poor people MAKE money, not take it from them....

Sounds good in theory but poor people DO NOT want to make money, they want to spend money, thats why they are poor.

A poor person that wants to improve their situation would not respond to a gambling offer anyway, that is the reality of the situation.

Id rather help them too, just for the records, but I would get better results and save time by just banging my head on the wall BEFORE leaving the house.

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MonteMichaels

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler

Sounds good in theory but poor people DO NOT want to make money, they want to spend money, thats why they are poor.

A poor person that wants to improve their situation would not respond to a gambling offer anyway, that is the reality of the situation.

Id rather help them too, just for the records, but I would get better results and save time by just banging my head on the wall BEFORE leaving the house.

That is what makes them a good target for something like this, as long as it is legal in the area. Poor people spend their money. Trying to get some rich people to open their wallet can be tough. You need a crow bar to get some of them open.

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jasonthewebmaster Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

I'd rather help poor people MAKE money, not take it from them....

I'll take money from anyone willing to give it to me... who are you to judge someone and say they are "poor" anyway?
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blythe 11 years ago

Originally Posted by eljeffe77

I'd rather help poor people MAKE money, not take it from them....

You're a good man... wish there were more people who thought like you...
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MonteMichaels

11 years ago

There is some good value in this post, as long as you are willing to overlook the gambling part.

There are so many different products and services that can be sold this way.

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RentItNow

11 years ago

"Interesting, I do ocassionaly mix it up and hit some middle class estates. But I couldnt say if they give a better ROI or not. I always just assumed working class people gamble more. Looks like I need to work on my targeting!"

It is something to test (can use adwords of facebook ads pretty fast). You can also look at profiles on popular gaming sites on alexa to get an idea the ideal customer.

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s1ngular1ty

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RentItNow

It is something to test (can use adwords of facebook ads pretty fast).

Sorry, but I don't follow. What do you mean by this?

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RentItNow

11 years ago

Originally Posted by s1ngular1ty

Sorry, but I don't follow. What do you mean by this?

You can use Adwords to test ideas and keywords. Also headlines, offers, call to action and scarcity items. Run two ads 30 clicks each and see which wins. Refine it and test again. It is a way to test out flyers REALLY fast and you can even target your city to make sure it hits the correct market. I do this all the time for store owners looking to do flyers and place expensive signs (actually an adwords ad transfers to a sign REALLY well).

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andymayhem

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RentItNow

You can use Adwords to test ideas and keywords. Also headlines, offers, call to action and scarcity items. Run two ads 30 clicks each and see which wins. Refine it and test again. It is a way to test out flyers REALLY fast and you can even target your city to make sure it hits the correct market. I do this all the time for store owners looking to do flyers and place expensive signs (actually an adwords ad transfers to a sign REALLY well).

This is what tim ferris done while choosing the title of 4 hour work week.

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agonce

11 years ago

hey OP , how did handing out flyers outside of the soccer stadium work out? Did you get any sign ups?

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jideofor

11 years ago

Hey folks this method had been discussed by a fellow warrior about a year or two ago and he made massive cash with clickbank. Google "warrior forum: This is what is working for me" and I bet you will a gold mine!

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cycler

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jideofor

Hey folks this method had been discussed by a fellow warrior about a year or two ago and he made massive cash with clickbank. Google "warrior forum: This is what is working for me" and I bet you will a gold mine!

Did not work for me, have a link?

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Matthew NY

11 years ago

This is the oldest method in the book, and coming from someone that has done it many times, it is neither cost effective or significantly profitable.

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AlisonM

11 years ago

.. now who would be an ideal candidate for a payday loan ? .. perhaps someone who is spending all their money on a bingo site :rolleyes:

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s1ngular1ty 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew NY

...coming from someone that has done it many times, it is neither cost effective or significantly profitable.

Did you try it with lifetime revshare offers? I can see how it would be hard to make much profit with normal offers, but with lifetime revshare it does work.

Providing you are promoting a deal that is really good.
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vitadon

11 years ago

thanks! I am partially responsible for the destruction of many forests - due to leaflet distribution and direct mail. Your ideas will help save the planet.

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s1ngular1ty 11 years ago

Originally Posted by vitadon

thanks! I am partially responsible for the destruction of many forests - due to leaflet distribution and direct mail. Your ideas will help save the planet.

I really don't understand... I'm advocating producing thousands of fliers and handing them out.

I'm here to make a living. Not save the planet.
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MartinBuckley

11 years ago

Thanks for sharing your offline flyer idea here with us. I like reading about others who are taking action and trying to make money offline.

I wish you much success,

Martin

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Hadders6543

11 years ago

Hi s1ngular1ty,
I am in the UK and wouldn't mind picking your brains further. Could you PM me? I don't have enough posts to PM you!

Thanks mate

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carrot

11 years ago

Hey, nice twist on an old idea.
If you dont mind, where are you finding rev share UK affiliate schemes.
I have done one off like this before, but didnt make a lot.

However i have distribution networks in place now, so worth another look.

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s1ngular1ty

11 years ago

Originally Posted by carrot

Hey, nice twist on an old idea.
If you dont mind, where are you finding rev share UK affiliate schemes.
I have done one off like this before, but didnt make a lot.

However i have distribution networks in place now, so worth another look.

Carrot, most uk bingo/gambling sites offer lifetime revshare.

Originally Posted by JerrickYeoh

You might figure to place big QR code as well while i believe lot of them would like to directly scan and claim the free chip and directly gamble on your site with phone.

Nice idea! I think this will work very well handing out flyers with QR codes for gambling offers outside soccer stadiums on match day. Should be a profitable few hours work!

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JerrickYeoh

11 years ago

Mostly free things, entertainment and foods stuff able to promote well in flyers.
It not only cheap cost for flyer printing and distribution , it easy to deliver to mass of people in the short time. You might figure to place big QR code as well while i believe lot of them would like to directly scan and claim the free chip and directly gamble on your site with phone.

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Rick Britton

11 years ago

can you post up or PM where to get the affilate sign ups for these? Nice idea

I will probably have something to share with you for the UK only so please stay in touch

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s1ngular1ty

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Rick Britton

can you post up or PM where to get the affilate sign ups for these? Nice idea

I will probably have something to share with you for the UK only so please stay in touch

I tried a few different bingo programs. Had most success doing the 888 ladies bingo affiliate program and the bingo liner one.

I do still get regular earnings from this method, that is the beauty of lifetime revshare, but I have sinced found a much easier method that requires no walking!

I released my new method as a WSO so PM me know if you want more info.

Anyway, this means I don't really know what are the best bingo revshare programs atm. But you should look for ones with a good no deposit offer to attract subscribers to the site and combine that with a high revshare.

For example I usually looked for around £20 no deposit, free play bingo offers, that offered me at least 30% lifetime revshare as an affiliate.

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End2End

11 years ago

US laws on flyers are already very tough. We do a lot of flyer marketing/ mailers for our financial niche programs, but they are not that beneficial anymore. That is how the conversions show us. It is possible that too many competitors started doing it or maybe they have lost the edge!

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club20coaching

11 years ago

Flyer distribution has the highest conversion of any other offline marketing technique. I have used flyers for 10 years for over 5 companies. We normally see a 5% conversion and charge $380.00 for 1000 flyers to be designed, printed, and delivered.

We target based on what people are selling and try to keep nice expensive neighborhoods so it's much easier for them to make a purchase.

I had a weight loss supplement that was $49.99 per sale

I had my guys pass out 5000 flyers and got a 1% conversion.. 5 is for local business and normally 2-3% for websites.

5000 flyers x 1% = 50 sales

50 sales x $50.00 = $2500.00

take profit $2500.00 and subtract cost of flyer design and distribution.

$2500.00- $529.00 = $ 1,971 in profit!! I have a great business and keep track of my crew with Google maps. They highlight the areas the visit on google maps and I check up at the end of the day.

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