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< Rant > does it annoy you when ....

by kenmichaels
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does it annoy you when ....


When people who don't know squat come into the offline forum,
read a little here and there, ask a few dumb questions ( that part is optional )
disappear for a while, and basically copy and paste a few things together,
come back to the forum. Post their garbage, to either build a list
or pre sell a wso.

I mean come on, who are these people fooling.

Personally i think all these brand new "experts" get away with it
because the new guys, the real ones who want to start a business
know even less then the poster.

I know, i know, i should not really care, it is a dog eat dog world.

I usually just ignore these posts, but for some reason, lately
i just want to nuke em.
#&gt #&lt #> #< #annoy #rant
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  • Profile picture of the author David Miller
    Couldn't agree more! I hate it and I think the majority of the people here feel the same way.

    I think at any given time there's at least one thread on the top half of the first page that is complete BS self promotion. What sucks is becoming part of a conversation in good faith and than find out it's some POS trying a cheap hustle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colm Whelan
    Couldn't agree more particularly about the newbies (myself included).

    I can sit down with a prospect now and make them believe that I'm an expert on small business online marketing - when in fact I know diddly-squat, really. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. That's why I'm being VERY slow and careful with the couple of customers I've recruited - I want to keep them - and my reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Same... I hate it all..

    One had a few quite popular threads with about 100 or more responses just rehashing material that was talked about a year ago. Funny thing is he started coming at me because I called him out, and had to remind him and show him the posts where he was asking for help from me, LOL!

    It's annoying.. they're usually just trying to build a following. People don't realize that when you provide value to this forum, you could be in a much better position to sell than just posting your BS offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author beeswarn
    This doesn't annoy me as much as do the people who offer help with no earthly idea what they're talking about. I don't know why they do it, but check this one out for a laugh http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ml#post6064767
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      I find it annoying when a useless thread is second from bottom on the page and then some idiot goes and writes something pointless putting it back near the top again.

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    • Profile picture of the author jacquic
      I'm assuming you are talking about my post. At no point did I advise it, and I was also interested in why you said it didn't work, but you haven't answered.

      I'm not in the ranks of John Rhodes, etc, but I do have a lot of success with clients and I do my best to help people on the forum, freely offering help and not selling one thing, and I'm sorry if that rankles with you.

      Originally Posted by beeswarn View Post

      This doesn't annoy me as much as do the people who offer help with no earthly idea what they're talking about. I don't know why they do it, but check this one out for a laugh http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ml#post6064767
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Good i am glad that im not the only one that feels this way!

    I recently quit smoking, and i wasn't sure if i was just being an obnoxious
    prick for no reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      Good i am glad that im not the only one that feels this way!

      I recently quit smoking, and i wasn't sure if i was just being an obnoxious
      prick for no reason.
      Congrats... same here... I have 10 days of quitting, going on the 11th at 830pm tonight... cold turkey!

      I've noticed the first three days, where people say are the hardest, definitely aren't the hardest LOL. I talk to idiots every day, and smoking allowed me to deal with it better. It's tough.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Congrats... same here... I have 10 days of quitting, going on the 11th at 830pm tonight... cold turkey!

        I've noticed the first three days, where people say are the hardest, definitely aren't the hardest LOL. I talk to idiots every day, and smoking allowed me to deal with it better. It's tough.
        I am 7 days in, and friggin miserable... Its seriously hampering my MOJO
        and yea, that first 3 day IMO was easier then yesterday /today.
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          I am 7 days in, and friggin miserable... Its seriously hampering my MOJO
          and yea, that first 3 day IMO was easier then yesterday /today.
          Don't give in... you have a week in the physical addiction is supposedly gone. Go to quitnet.com its a board for everyone who quit smoking. It has a quit date calculator that calculates the amount of time you quit, how much money you saved and the amount of time added to your life.

          It's cool for motivation. Everytime I really am tempted I go on there and read or make a post. Good support especially if you don't have real life support.

          Think about it like this... if you smoke a pack a day... you're wasting 2 hours of productivity a day. I have got so much work done that it is incredible, and makes me wonder how I got stuff done before.
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          • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Don't give in... you have a week in the physical addiction is supposedly gone. Go to quitnet.com its a board for everyone who quit smoking. It has a quit date calculator that calculates the amount of time you quit, how much money you saved and the amount of time added to your life.

            It's cool for motivation. Everytime I really am tempted I go on there and read or make a post. Good support especially if you don't have real life support.

            Think about it like this... if you smoke a pack a day... you're wasting 2 hours of productivity a day. I have got so much work done that it is incredible, and makes me wonder how I got stuff done before.
            Cool, Thanks ill check it out.
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      • Profile picture of the author wally247
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Congrats... same here... I have 10 days of quitting, going on the 11th at 830pm tonight... cold turkey!

        I've noticed the first three days, where people say are the hardest, definitely aren't the hardest LOL. I talk to idiots every day, and smoking allowed me to deal with it better. It's tough.
        It NEVER gets easier.

        5 years from now you will see someone smoking in a movie, and you'll be like
        "holy crap, that looks good!"

        It's brutal, but it can be done! Good job.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCG
    My favorites are the ones that come in here and post for a bit then launch a WSO or 2 and all of a sudden they are the big offline expert guys around by the serial product buyers.

    Guess what? Then you NEVER see them offer any advice in the forum anymore. All their posts are in the WSO section.

    Why help anyone for free when you can sell it?

    One guy in particular is a BIG disappointment to me. I really liked reading his contributions for a while but now he is 1000% focused on creating material to sell to newbies. It is all about product creation, JVs, blah, blah, blah.
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  • Profile picture of the author beeswarn
    Ken, how'd you quit?
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by TheCG View Post

      One guy in particular is a BIG disappointment to me. I really liked reading his contributions for a while but now he is 1000% focused on creating material to sell to newbies. It is all about product creation, JVs, blah, blah, blah.
      Well if you ever see me doing that, you have my permission
      to shoot me, right between the eyes.


      Originally Posted by beeswarn View Post

      Ken, how'd you quit?
      Cold turkey. But i have been prepping for a while, like no smoking in the car, no smoking in the house, then no smoking after food... you get the point. then last wk when i was out of smokes, that was when i decided
      it was time.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheCG
        Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

        Well if you ever see me doing that, you have my permission
        to shoot me, right between the eyes.
        You got it, Ken!
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  • Profile picture of the author beeswarn
    Self-appointed experts here really bug me. Here's one from last night. Apparently only NameLess caught it http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ml#post6060703

    Reading and listening to so many cliches and vague bromides like this is like listening to one of those psychics on late night TV. When the psychic is drunk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    What he said. I just don't go there anymore unless I'm looking for something specific.

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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh
    Ken,

    I quit smoking over 30 years ago. 5 years later I would wake up in
    the middle of a dream that I was smoking. Crazy. But next to
    choosing my wife, was the best decision I ever made. I try not
    to preach it, though.

    Hugh
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

    does it annoy you when ....


    When people who don't know squat come into the offline forum,
    read a little here and there, ask a few dumb questions ( that part is optional )
    disappear for a while, and basically copy and paste a few things together,
    come back to the forum. Post their garbage, to either build a list
    or pre sell a wso.

    I mean come on, who are these people fooling.

    Personally i think all these brand new "experts" get away with it
    because the new guys, the real ones who want to start a business
    know even less then the poster.

    I know, i know, i should not really care, it is a dog eat dog world.

    I usually just ignore these posts, but for some reason, lately
    i just want to nuke em.
    Being a person who works his tail off to always be 100% original... yes it annoys me. The other part of me cant even believe people really give "posing" that much forethought when its so easy just to be legit.

    Im fully aware of how unscrupulous some of these guys can be... But a part of me still does not process it... I know (but cant prove) that some people have 5 usernames in some cases... and it just about drove me nuts last year because they will gang up all 5 on you....

    You can be having a conversation with one nice person, and they are just setting you up to get the crud smacked out of you by their tag team partner.... and the tag team partner is THEM! lol

    They willl act like they are needing help and have you write a whole book for them...lthen the next day all their posts are gone from the thread and you realize you have been had...the next week all your ideas come out in a new report.

    Talk about feeling used.

    Or they are part of other groups than WF and they literally ORGANIZE how they are going to gang up on you and take you out. lol


    Ultimately you cant prove any of this and even if you could it wouldnt change the situation... I know

    I know I have been referring to Paul Myers alot lately, because his material has been in the forefront of my mind, but I gotta tell you... if the "posers" are driving you crazy there is onl;y one cure...and it WILL cure you.

    Ready?

    Google Paul Myers "The voice" or go to my forum and get it from the classifieds...

    This is the absolute "BIBLE" for advanced understanding of these things and why they are attracted to us...and why we are bothered, and how to control your emotions over the issues...

    Last year I had a whole mob of haters chasing me for months like a mob... trying to attack from every angle...

    It was bringing me down... "The Voice" helped me understand, and it brought me to an ENTIRELY NEW LEVEL...the potential of which is only beginning to be seen...there is a mountain underneath the surface that is fixing to emerge as a result of getting those understandings.

    No one has ever held me back since but myself. The voice will help you work on that culprit too!

    You ever notice how Paul and the mods are moved by NOTHING?

    Nothing moves them, they are always objective ...its because of the understandings they get from overseeing all these people. Its like they see it from am much higher vantage point ... what you think is an individual misbehaving , is a type they have seen a million times and understand.

    Its amazing how they can deal with someone, and you wont understand, it wont make sense, then weeks later you see they were right on...

    The voice will really help you understand peoples motivations, and help you view it all more objectively.

    I dont make a dime or even get a "prop" for telling you this. Im telling you because last year it changed a big [part of my life for the better...my world is still churning from the understandings and Im only beginning to see the growth potential.


    Ps. It doesnt just change your perspective... it actually makes your enemies GO AWAY! I have alot of issues right now, but people hating me on the forum and attacking me isnt one of them anymore, like it used to be.

    Thanks to "The Voice".
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    You know what though... it really makes me wonder how clients could even stand to be in the same room as me. Do you notice how bad people smell when they smoke now?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

    You know what though... it really makes me wonder how clients could even stand to be in the same room as me. Do you notice how bad people smell when they smoke now?
    Boy you are really doing some cleansing this week huh...questioning every aspect of yourself (just below the surface). This is what people can do to your mind like the bully abusive client... if you dionrt recognize the process.

    The abuser isnt smart enough to do it intentionally, he does it instinctively, but still there is a pattern , and there is a pattern of how these things become internalized and affect us that can be understood and overcome.

    It happens alot when people are at the place you are Iamnameless, on the brink of their greatest successes. Thats when we start looking deeply inside about how we got there and how are we going to maintain it, and "do I really deserve this"...and all those things.

    Alot of people wont get how Im talking to you right now, because they arent where you are, at a crucial place where success is breaking for you and you are acclimating to a whole new set of thoughts and ways of percieving.

    In short

    You are okay bro. Just like you are, just keep doing what you are freaking AWESOME at... and be stronger than your enemies.

    I really think you need the voice,. Its good timing for you. Next week that guy will look like such a small insignificant person to you.... and you will know how to make him disapear!

    I know your post wasnt specifically revealing where you are, but your BODY of recent posting does... if a person is caring enough to try and really read them...

    We all know you are on the brink of really breaking over, and this year has been amazing for you as far as epiphanies...they NEW phase is where you are "processing" all of those epiphanies.

    I personally think you are a rising star bro, and Im not gay or anything...but I pay attention to people who are beautiful and truly appreciate their amazing qualities...you have something special.

    ... and I feel like there is no shame in loving your brother enough to tell them if you see that...

    You are one of those guys who I would have really nurtured on my team because you apply yourself.

    ... So listen to us not the negative voices!
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      You know what though... it really makes me wonder how clients could even stand to be in the same room as me. Do you notice how bad people smell when they smoke now?
      I am not at that point, right now, they smell yummy....


      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Google Paul Myers "The voice" or go to my forum and get it from the classifieds...
      Ill get that tonight. thanks for the advise.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

        I am not at that point, right now, they smell yummy....




        Ill get that tonight. thanks for the advise.
        Its one of those books that find you when the time is right...alot of people could read it right now and it wouldnt make sense to them, but if you are at that crucial place...lets just say when the student is ready the teacher appears.

        Pauls book isnt about advanced marketing strategies, its about how to handle becoming an advanced marketer and perceive everything around you, because its different at that vantage point!

        You will love it.

        I have read Og Mandino books that did not move me...and others that i believe he was absolutely under the influence of divine guidance in writing it and they contain literal POWER...

        The voice is that.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Boy you are really doing some cleansing this week huh...questioning every aspect of yourself (just below the surface). This is what people can do to your mind like the bully abusive client... if you dionrt recognize the process.

      The abuser isnt smart enough to do it intentionally, he does it instinctively, but still there is a pattern , and there is a pattern of how these things become internalized and affect us that can be understood and overcome.

      It happens alot when people are at the place you are Iamnameless, on the brink of their greatest successes. Thats when we start looking deeply inside about bho0w we got there and how are we going to maintain it, and "do I really deserve this"...and all those things.

      Alot of people wont get how Im talking to you right now, because they arent where you are, at a crucial place where success is breaking for you and you are acclimating to a whole new set of thoughts and ways of percieving.

      In short

      You are okay bro. Just like you are, just keep doing what you are freaking AWESOME at... and be stronger than your enemies.

      I really think you need the voice,. Its good timing for you. Next week that guy will look like such a small insignificant person to you.... and you will know how to make him disapear!

      I know your post wasnt specifically revealing where you are, but your BODY of recent posting does... if a person is caring enough to try and really read them...

      We all know you are on the brink of really breaking over, and this year has been amazing for you as far as epiphanies...they NEW phase is where you are "processing" all of those epiphanies.

      I personally think you are a rising star bro, and Im not gay or anything...but I pay attention to people who are beautiful and truly appreciate their amazing qualities...you have something special.

      ... and I feel like there is no shame in loving your brother enough to tell them if you see that...

      You are one of those guys who I would have really nurtured on my team because you apply yourself.

      ... So listen to us not the negative voices!
      Amazing post and I really appreciate it. Might have to print it out, because that is motivation right there!

      You're awesome John... thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Just have been where you are bro...want to help make sure that at the tipping point that you tip the right way! You dont need me for that, but all the reminders you can get are good at this crucial; point in life for you.

    As Myers said to me last year "Houston we have airspace".
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