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Chris Cho

14 years ago

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Geeze... your website is awful.. a #1 ranking isn't going to help a site like that. You obviously had a joomla newbie on this one, I dunno how even a below average Joomla user could butcher this up so bad, no offense.

The rest... I mean, I dunno what he's done for back links, maybe you should try and get in touch with him. I personally don't see anything that could have been done, but that's something you should work out with him if you have a problem with the lack of results.

I didn't get to see the website but I thought this was funny.

A lot of people don't put enough work and want high ranking or millions of dollars by sending out emails. It trips me out.

It's like doing 10 situps and eating whatever they want and asking why they're not getting a six pack. :rolleyes:

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PhilaPM

14 years ago

How long have you been doing SEO on the site? What keywords are you targeting? It may be your keywords are really competitive and will take longer to rank.

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mayankgangwal

14 years ago

Hi, can you know the keywords which you are targeting and in which area your main focus is. Don't know about that guy what he is doing.
Let me know the kewyords and i would suggest you some changes so that i can help you.

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14 years ago

he is targeting "what is insurance" and its been a month.

@iAmNameLess what can i do to improve the site?

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14 years ago

Utilize keywords that are actually searched for, but have a decent chance at being ranked reasonably rapidly. Ranking involves various factors, both on-site and off-site. You can take a look at how we do it at our site below. Hope that helps.

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14 years ago

We need a lot more information about what you are doing in order to try to rank in Google's top Rankings.

-Mario

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14 years ago

I'm not the SEO expert, i hired someone from this forum, orpaz.

He said he's making backlinks.

I was just wondering what I could do, because its been a month and i haven't even cracked top 1000 under the keyword i hired him for. (what is insurance)

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BTbuzz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

I'm not the SEO expert, i hired someone from this forum, orpaz.

He said he's making backlinks.

I was just wondering what I could do, because its been a month and i haven't even cracked top 1000 under the keyword i hired him for. (what is insurance)

Thats does seem like a to broad of a keyword, I'd hire a pro if your invested in it.
Id forget about 5 dollar backlinks , you might show up on a Bolivia pornsite.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by buckoff

Thats does seem like a to broad of a keyword, I'd hire a pro if your invested in it.
Id forget about 5 dollar backlinks , you might show up on a Bolivia pornsite.

who did you hire?
How much did you pay?

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BTbuzz 14 years ago

I'm the owner of Ways To Make Money Online With Making Money Websites - Minisite Buzz. What I'm paying you could not afford , And i'm still not done with investing in the biz. heres one of our samples .http://whoinventedcomputers.com/. Point is it has attract a viewer once they land there and stay there.
You need a overhaul on that, Its not very well done at all. All the tech stuff he's talking about is essential, But lets not forget the artistic view of a niche site. You want the project to interest people.
Nameless is helping you, better to be upfront then bs you.
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- InsLibrary 14 years ago
  
  Buckoff, can i get your contact email?
  Do you work with joomla?
  
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  Originally Posted by InsLibrary
  
  Buckoff, can i get your contact email?
  Do you work with joomla?
  
  You can go to main site mini one and contact us, Were not ready to open yet
  But if your patient we could probably help you out. You have no pics no video
  A gazillion in bound links. If your paying someone now you should learn what you've read here and have a pow wow with him or her.
  Yes as he mentioned we deal in wordpress, Like I said i would go talk with the person you're paying now . We really don't time to help you right now , were up to our eye balls as it is..
  I was just trying to help you.
  http://www.miracletutorials.com/word...joomla-review/ some more education on the matter
  Its the old ford or chevy debate, no biggee
  
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FormerWageSlave

14 years ago

I think you'd be better off asking this in the SEO forum. Even then, you might want to go out and find an actual SEO forum, cuz true SEO experts are few and far between here on WF.

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14 years ago

So people advertising SEO here are basically lying?

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andrewrasel

14 years ago

Is there anyone who can teach me to learn more about SEO.

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FormerWageSlave 14 years ago

Originally Posted by andrewrasel

Is there anyone who can teach me to learn more about SEO.

I think you'd be better off asking your questions in the SEO forum.

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

So people advertising SEO here are basically lying?

I have no idea who's lying to you and who isn't. My experience, with SEO questions specifically, has been that I've gotten the best advice in other places.

Oh, and Caveat Emptor!
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Leo Wadsworth

14 years ago

No, not lying - but the rules DO keep changing. Google updates its algorithm about once a day on average. Most of these updates are minor to trivial (adding a new set of synonyms for a particular language, for example), but some are major. It can take time for people to catch up to what Google has done in a particular update.

Google has recently made some very significant changes regarding backlinks - they are really stomping down on backlinks that appear fake.

Your keyword "What is Insurance?" will be extremely hard to rank for -- because Google basically ignores words like "what is." This means you will be trying to rank for the keyword "insurance." That means you are up against every insurance agent with a website -- as well as the major companies with huge budgets. In the insurance market it is much easier to rank for localized content -- i.e. "insurance San Diego"

Also - be aware that SEO is MUCH MUCH more than backlinks. Your domain name, URLS, website content, etc. -- SEO involves all these and more. In addition, there are a huge variety of possibilities within "backlinks." Google expects to see variety -- having a sudden boost of just one type of backlink can cause you to get penalized by Google.

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14 years ago

So what do you suggest i do Leo?
Can you take a look at my site inslibrary.com
and advise me on some changes i could do?

Also, what would be a better keyword that i can target in on?
"Different types of insurance"?

Thanks a lot for the help

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Leo Wadsworth

14 years ago

This really belongs in the SEO forum. Start a new thread there and I'll respond there.

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14 years ago

I have moved the thread over here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6093838

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iAmNameLess 14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

he is targeting "what is insurance" and its been a month.

@iAmNameLess what can i do to improve the site?

First off, your layout is so old school joomla and really awful. I'm speaking nothing more than a user experience stand point right now. It looks like a highschooler made the website, and it's unorganized.

Get a real website made, or learn your way around joomla much better. Use a theme that already exists so you can learn better.

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

So people advertising SEO here are basically lying?

No.. They aren't lying, just unskilled, at least most that I see.

The ones that advertise it, usually advertise backlinks... backlinks that are very low quality. I have only seen a FEW people on this board that are actually very good about building backlinks.

I had a top 3 ranking website for cheap health insurance a while back, not sure if they're still up there... anyway it was hard work, and REALLY took a lot more than just blasting out backlinks in some software.
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stevhong

14 years ago

hi, i saw your website, its an information site.
I think you will need to make sure have a good keywords research.
The keywords MUST be locate in the site title, tagline.
Further better, keyword also needed to be in the post or pages information.
For example keywords as "insurance articles", this keywords MUST have it in site title, tagline and also posts/pages + others keywords in posts/pages

Hope the above can help you ^o^

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stevhong

14 years ago

Yeah, google is always changing the rules of seo, no doubt. Google is the top search engine, we must know the rules and follow googles.
For getting better seo ranking, i believe hire professional is the best approach rather than working on your own (which take TONS of your times) especially for building banklinks, bookmarks and etc....

Hope above helps the reader here ^^

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14 years ago

@iamnameless this is an existing template that i am using, I am not skilled in HTML.
What templates would you recommend for an informational site?
Keep in mind that my readers (about insurance) won't want a website full of flash and dark in nature. Most informational websites are clean, white and simple.

@stevhong

since my site is being SEO'd by an individual under the keyword "what is insurance"
i should incorporate that in as much articles as possible?
or just incorporate the word "insurance"?
Should i just link "what is insurance" a lot in my article or do you just need the word "what is insurance"

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

@iamnameless this is an existing template that i am using, I am not skilled in HTML.
What templates would you recommend for an informational site?
Keep in mind that my readers (about insurance) won't want a website full of flash and dark in nature. Most informational websites are clean, white and simple.

@stevhong

since my site is being SEO'd by an individual under the keyword "what is insurance"
i should incorporate that in as much articles as possible?
or just incorporate the word "insurance"?
Should i just link "what is insurance" a lot in my article or do you just need the word "what is insurance"

I do web design for clients all over, you don't need to tell me what your readers want, I already know much more of what they want than you do! LOL. No offense.. Your current website is simple.. but it isn't simple in a good way it is simple in an unorganized, cluttered, awful looking way.

Check out the yootheme templates, those are all pretty good... or you can just search free joomla templates and you will be much better off than the garbage you're using now. Another problem is it looks like you don't know how to set up the front page format. If you want a blog style, you need it set up that way instead of pulling all the different module positions like you are.

Just search for free templates, and free tutorials. You'll be in a lot better shape.

As for the SEO.. I'd suggest YOU not try doing anything until you learn more about it, else you will end up being further off than you are now.

To give you an idea on when you can rank for "what is insurance"... you'd be looking 6-12 months even if using a professional service or firm. If you went with Fathom, you would be spending 5-7K/mo and waiting for 12 months for any kind of results. THAT is how competitive insurance is. Even if you leave SEO alone for just 1 week in that niche, you get left behind.

IT takes MUCH much more than hiring someone to spam out some backlinks.

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14 years ago

@iAmNameLess

Although I find your attitude very needlessly insulting, i do find your words useful.

At first, I didn't want a blog type setup, just a regular informational site, but as i was discussing with people here on the forum more, they said adding a blog would greatly increase my chances. So i plan to create another section of the site, inslibrary.com/blog to fill that need which will link back to inslibrary.com

This is a free template that i found, i didn't make this...
Its the a4joomla-Oxygen template

I don't do the SEO, I hired someone from this forums that is currently doing SEO.

What if i switched my keyword to "different types of insurance"?

Anyone know why i wasnt approved for adsense yet? and are there any good alternatives?

P.s. I like the yootheme templates, but I would only switch when the site can pay for it

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

@iAmNameLess

Although I find your attitude very needlessly insulting, i do find your words useful.

At first, I didn't want a blog type setup, just a regular informational site, but as i was discussing with people here on the forum more, they said adding a blog would greatly increase my chances. So i plan to create another section of the site, inslibrary.com/blog to fill that need which will link back to inslibrary.com

This is a free template that i found, i didn't make this...
Its the a4joomla-Oxygen template

I don't do the SEO, I hired someone from this forums that is currently doing SEO.

What if i switched my keyword to "different types of insurance"?

Anyone know why i wasnt approved for adsense yet? and are there any good alternatives?

P.s. I like the yootheme templates, but I would only switch when the site can pay for it

Oh.. I'm sorry, I'm not going to continue giving advice to those who find my attitude insulting when this is something I charge for regularly. You're the one needing help, my friend... And with all the bogus responses you have received, you should be extremely thankful.

Bridge burned.. good luck.

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rhinocl

14 years ago

Insurance is a super competitive field. I would strongly suggest you work on some easier micro niches first. Then you can see progress, analyze what works and apply what you have learned to a more competitive niche. You learn nothing from having a site that stays in position 300 for 2 years except that things are harder than you thought and that you should have started with a different niche.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by rhinocl

Insurance is a super competitive field. I would strongly suggest you work on some easier micro niches first. Then you can see progress, analyze what works and apply what you have learned to a more competitive niche. You learn nothing from having a site that stays in position 300 for 2 years except that things are harder than you thought and that you should have started with a different niche.

What would you say is micro niches?

I was thinking of doing "different types of insurance"

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

Oh.. I'm sorry, I'm not going to continue giving advice to those who find my attitude insulting when this is something I charge for regularly. You're the one needing help, my friend... And with all the bogus responses you have received, you should be extremely thankful.

Bridge burned.. good luck.

I am thankful, thats why i said your words are extremely useful, but your a tad rude.
You've been insulting me non stop, but its okay cuz your helping me..

Thanks for your help

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

@iAmNameLess

Although I find your attitude very needlessly insulting, i do find your words useful.

At first, I didn't want a blog type setup, just a regular informational site, but as i was discussing with people here on the forum more, they said adding a blog would greatly increase my chances. So i plan to create another section of the site, inslibrary.com/blog to fill that need which will link back to inslibrary.com

This is a free template that i found, i didn't make this...
Its the a4joomla-Oxygen template

I don't do the SEO, I hired someone from this forums that is currently doing SEO.

What if i switched my keyword to "different types of insurance"?

Anyone know why i wasnt approved for adsense yet? and are there any good alternatives?

P.s. I like the yootheme templates, but I would only switch when the site can pay for it

InsLibrary, you're walking away from some valuable knowledge here. Most SEO experts are pathological liars or rank amateurs. Whatever expertise they do possess is in skillfully misleading people, including themselves. IAmNameless isn't one of them.

He gave you very strong, well-considered, knowledgeable advice and showed you where you have been mislead and misguided. I recommend you follow it. I understand why he's rude in these forums. It happens to me too. You have to be to sometimes to overwhelm the advice you get here from the self-appointed experts here who are typing to you from you their parents' basements.

His comments about good content vs. unique content, Wordpress, and not attempting on-page SEO until you know what the hell you're doing is so fundamental that they make a reliable litmus test. If anyone disagrees with them, they can be instantly identified as doofuses or snake oil salesmen.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by beeswarn

InsLibrary, you're walking away from some valuable knowledge here. Most SEO experts are pathological liars or rank amateurs. Whatever expertise they do possess is in skillfully misleading people, including themselves. IAmNameless isn't one of them.

He gave you very strong, well-considered, knowledgeable advice and showed you where you have been mislead and misguided. I recommend you follow it. I understand why he's rude in these forums. It happens to me too. You have to be to sometimes to overwhelm the advice you get here from the self-appointed experts here who are typing to you from you their parents' basements.

His comments about good content vs. unique content, Wordpress, and not attempting on-page SEO until you know what the hell you're doing is so fundamental that they make a reliable litmus test. If anyone disagrees with them, they can be instantly identified as doofuses or snake oil salesmen.

Guys, I by no means discredited his advice

I am very grateful for his advice, I just didn't understand why he was so rude.

But let me make this clear, i already made notes on his advice and plan to take action for it.

I am very thankful for his advice in particular. And I'm feeling at a loss that he feels that i discredited his advice.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

Guys, I by no means discredited his advice

I am very grateful for his advice, I just didn't understand why he was so rude.

But let me make this clear, i already made notes on his advice and plan to take action for it.

I am very thankful for his advice in particular. And I'm feeling at a loss that he feels that i discredited his advice.

I wasn't directly insulting you, just saying your website is awful, because it is. It isn't your fault, you aren't a professional web designer, you don't know any better. The guy you hired for SEO should have given you a heads up about your website.

I'm not in the business of beating around the bush, or making people feel good about bad decisions.. I'm in the business of getting results. If you take my attitude the wrong way, sorry, it's just how I am and I don't change that.. I'd rather be straight forward instead of wasting everybody's time.

The rest.. I wasn't even talking to you, but referencing all the horrid advice in this thread.

You said you don't want a yootheme template until the site can pay for it... that isn't going to happen, in my opinion. I legally can't suggest using a pirated template.... LOL. Anyway, there are many options that are available to you, and FREE templates that are MUCH better than what you have, you just have to dig for them.. take a look, do a few searches for free joomla templates, and look for some tutorials. If you don't know how to do something.. ask.. especially with joomla, if you create a thread here calling for me, I know that CMS, along with drupal and others better than most. With a little more effort, you can turn an awful site into an above average website.

On page optimization... Your title tag needs to remove Is, Of, all explained here... because those are useless words that are making your title go over 70 characters... try to keep it at or around 70.. I have found even 80 is okay in terms of ranking. Use your h1 and h2 tags, right now you don't have them. You need a sitemap... and your gzip setting in the admin panel is screwing your website up because a spider is trying to detect it but it doesn't work.

Remove the 6 pack module positions you have under your front page article.. Instead, have them linked on the side in a side menu.

Lower your keyword density. You have 7% density for the word insurance... put that around 3%.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

I wasn't directly insulting you, just saying your website is awful, because it is. It isn't your fault, you aren't a professional web designer, you don't know any better. The guy you hired for SEO should have given you a heads up about your website.

I'm not in the business of beating around the bush, or making people feel good about bad decisions.. I'm in the business of getting results. If you take my attitude the wrong way, sorry, it's just how I am and I don't change that.. I'd rather be straight forward instead of wasting everybody's time.

The rest.. I wasn't even talking to you, but referencing all the horrid advice in this thread.

You said you don't want a yootheme template until the site can pay for it... that isn't going to happen, in my opinion. I legally can't suggest using a pirated template.... LOL. Anyway, there are many options that are available to you, and FREE templates that are MUCH better than what you have, you just have to dig for them.. take a look, do a few searches for free joomla templates, and look for some tutorials. If you don't know how to do something.. ask.. especially with joomla, if you create a thread here calling for me, I know that CMS, along with drupal and others better than most. With a little more effort, you can turn an awful site into an above average website.

On page optimization... Your title tag needs to remove Is, Of, all explained here... because those are useless words that are making your title go over 70 characters... try to keep it at or around 70.. I have found even 80 is okay in terms of ranking. Use your h1 and h2 tags, right now you don't have them. You need a sitemap... and your gzip setting in the admin panel is screwing your website up because a spider is trying to detect it but it doesn't work.

Remove the 6 pack module positions you have under your front page article.. Instead, have them linked on the side in a side menu.

Lower your keyword density. You have 7% density for the word insurance... put that around 3%.

Hey my SEO guy says my keyword is "what is insurance" people say longer keywords are easier than pure "insurance"

What is gzip?
Isn't this http://inslibrary.com/index.php?opti...component&id=4
the site map?

Hey, how much would your company charge to all that on page optimization? such as the tags, keywords, changing to a better template, tags, and all the likes?

If possible, i rather it being done by someone who knows than myself.

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amacg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by daithanh

i have a question, do adword help your seo?

i read some article mention that bounce rate do effect your site, but from the stat analysis show that, traffic from adword have the highest bounce rate ever.

not sure how the new panda really work any one care to point this out

Good content! In all seriousness, it's clear search engines are favouring websites with good content and penalizing those that do not.

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mariashern1

14 years ago

Originally Posted by InsLibrary

Hey guys,

I have a site inslibrary.com thats being SEO'd

So far i haven't been seeing any good progress, is it because of the recent changes that google has made?

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If you use this it wil be good for you with new seo rukes

1. You still need to be writing content, genuine valuable content for your target market. Depending upon your time restraints aim to do at least 1 blog per week, if you can do more thats great however you need to be consistent.
2. Remember your key words, they are still important. Naturally pop them through out your blogs and through your pages and be careful of not to over do it.
3. Social networking is still crucial, in our personal training studio we generate a ton of leads through our Facebook fan pages and posts.

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Pathway Insurance

14 years ago

I am in the insurance business in the U.S. and I have definitely found significantly worse insurance sites than this one, however your site is too boxy...take a look at my web site: Cincinnati Auto Insurance,Cincinnati Home Insurance, Cincinnati Business Insurance

I'm considering a redesign on my site, I have used this same type of custom theme for about 3 years, but it always good to refresh your site from time to time.

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Amsterdam81

14 years ago

Your website looks ok. However, you see, obviously if you want to "get higher serp" on google, it is much better off changing platform to wordpress, google loves wordpress, and their on site seo is easier as lotsa plugins out there available, and with a good onpage seo, and some off page seo, I suppose most IM'ers will agree that wordpress sites are easier to rank

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by daithanh

i have a question, do adword help your seo?

i read some article mention that bounce rate do effect your site, but from the stat analysis show that, traffic from adword have the highest bounce rate ever.

not sure how the new panda really work any one care to point this out

No, adwords does not help your site. It is a different algorithm that is unrelated.

Bounce rate, in my opinion is a factor in ranking. I don't think it is a major factor though.

Originally Posted by mariashern1

If you use this it wil be good for you with new seo rukes

1. You still need to be writing content, genuine valuable content for your target market. Depending upon your time restraints aim to do at least 1 blog per week, if you can do more thats great however you need to be consistent.
2. Remember your key words, they are still important. Naturally pop them through out your blogs and through your pages and be careful of not to over do it.
3. Social networking is still crucial, in our personal training studio we generate a ton of leads through our Facebook fan pages and posts.

I think you mean well, but your outlook on SEO is misguided but partially true.

Originally Posted by amacg

Good content! In all seriousness, it's clear search engines are favouring websites with good content and penalizing those that do not.

Another misguided soul. It isn't about good content, it isn't about unique content... it is about RELEVANT content. So many people misunderstand the Panda update and are so stuck behind because they refuse to see another path besides popular opinion. This is why I stopped hanging out in the SEO part of the forum. Too many people that REALLY don't know what they're doing, that refuse to see another way of doing things.

Originally Posted by Amsterdam81

Your website looks ok. However, you see, obviously if you want to "get higher serp" on google, it is much better off changing platform to wordpress, google loves wordpress, and their on site seo is easier as lotsa plugins out there available, and with a good onpage seo, and some off page seo, I suppose most IM'ers will agree that wordpress sites are easier to rank

THIS response is the most irritating because it is pure lies. You either have no idea about SEO, or you just listen to the line of ignorance speaking on the subject.

Let's break this down so new members and browsers don't take your advice.

1.) Changing from Joomla to wordpress, or Drupal to wordpress is something that doesn't make sense. Wordpress is minor leagues my friend, the others are in the big leagues. I know... most of you get the perception that wordpress is the best, but it isn't, by far. Wordpress might be the only one your brain can grasp, but that doesn't mean it is the best. Wordpress might be easy for you and others who don't have the attention span or capability of caring more about their websites, but that doesn't make it better.

2.) Google DOES NOT LOVE WORDPRESS. Wordpress is originally, and at heart, meant to be a BLOG! What does Google REALLY LOVE? Updated, fresh, RELEVANT content. Not wordpress... Google doesn't care whether you use a CMS or not. Google doesn't care if you use wordpress, drupal, Joomla, Magento, prestashop, etc.

3.) Plugins and on page optimization... this is where you truly show how uneducated you are on the matter... Joomla, you use a couple buttons, and your website is SEF. You essentially have the same options as wordpress, WITHOUT ANY PLUGINS!

4.) Most IM'ers will agree only that it's easier. The ones that say wordpress is easier to rank, are out of their mind. A lot of what you said is total BS and entirely untrue. Just because you're only capable of using wordpress doesn't mean that it is the best.

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Stephen B

14 years ago

SEO is 10% on page factors and 90% off page factors such as backlinks. I always try to teach my local business clients that the on page is trying to tell Google what the page is about so that includes putting the keyword you are trying to rank for in the meta title, the main <h1> title, the first image named as the keyword and the title and alt tag of the first image is the keyword.

That plus some other techniques would get you ranked on page one or two of Google for local search but what you are trying to achieve with the keyword 'insurance' is unlikely to succeed due to the competition.

You would be better off finding the long tail keywords such as 4 - 5 words and competing for the low hanging fruit.

The backlinks shows Google your page is popular and also confirms the topic on the page by having the keyword in the anchor text of the backlinks.

If you are in the insurance market be prepared for a long haul.

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14 years ago

I just told you why he was so rude.

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InsLibrary 14 years ago

Originally Posted by beeswarn

I just told you why he was so rude.

I acknowledged that

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14 years ago

Gotcha. Sorry.

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InsLibrary 14 years ago

Originally Posted by beeswarn

Gotcha. Sorry.

its okay, no problem here.

But for this part

not attempting on-page SEO until you know what the hell you're doing

Where can I learn about this or what should i do for onpage SEO?
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14 years ago

Honest to God, the best fundamental info is here: Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

The specific advice like nameless gave you for your actual site will help too.

If you will take the time, I hope you'll read this http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...yone-else.html

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by beeswarn

Honest to God, the best fundamental info is here: Webmaster Guidelines - Webmaster Tools Help

The specific advice like nameless gave you for your actual site will help too.

If you will take the time, I hope you'll read this http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...yone-else.html

Thanks, I'll give these a read.

If you have anymore advice please feel free to share, I'd be happy if you take a look at the site and give me any feedback.

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14 years ago

When I read through this thread the first time, I was stunned by the bs and bad advice here. Consequently, I missed what Leo Wadsworth offered in #13 above. It's pretty solid stuff too.

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JamesCx

14 years ago

I think spending a bit of time researching basic SEO strategies and just the outright foundations would benefit you when you're hiring someone to optimize your sites. That way you'd be a bit more clued up on what to expect.

But at the end of the day, if you aren't happy with the service he/she's providing; contact them and discuss it. That's all you can do.

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14 years ago

InsLibrary. The website he's showing you is Wordpress. Stay away from Wordpress.

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wilder1047

14 years ago

Originally Posted by beeswarn

InsLibrary. The website he's showing you is Wordpress. Stay away from Wordpress.

Curious as to why?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Terry Gorry

Yes, me too.

(I have just spent the last week battling with getting an Attack Site message from Google off my biggest and best Wordpress site and it has been a scary experience as this site delivers over 80% of my new clients for my legal practice)

One of the reasons is what you just stated. There are so many security exploits known, and many more that aren't known. It is VERY easy to use a plugin that included hidden backlinks to "bad neighborhoods" and things you wouldn't want on your website.

Someone from this forum, emailed me a couple weeks ago, they spent $1,300 on a big wordpress website, only to realize it was covered in malware, hidden backlinks, and tons of malicious code.

I used to do wordpress sites a few years ago, and switched, completely. Wordpress is NOT the best solution like all these internet marketers claim it is.

MANY people have security issues with wordpress, SQL injections, script exploits, etc.

Of course other CMS's have the same issues, but not as loose as wordpress.

In terms of flexibility, wordpress is the most limiting platform at its core, AND when it is extended. Joomla and Drupal platforms are much better. Security, Joomla and Drupal, drupal even more than Joomla.

It depends on WHAT the goal of the website is, and what features you want, expected traffic, security needs, etc. Each CMS has advantages and disadvantages. I have never seen a position or circumstance where wordpress is actually ideal, OTHER THAN an internet marketer wanting a website up in 30 minutes, even if it is low quality.

Many many more reasons too...

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RedShifted 14 years ago

One thing that took me a long time to learn about SEO (not sure why) was how important it is to have a large site that targets a lot of different keywords.

You should be dividing your site into as many related niches as possible, then begin building quality content for each related niche. You should also target less competitive long tailed keywords.

I am not an SEO expert, in fact all I know about SEO is what I have done on my own site. And so far only 2 moderatley competitive keywords are on page 1. But that tells me I'm doing something right as all my pages continue to move up the SERPS.

It takes A LOT of work, because ideally you want each page to have as much "charisma" as possible. You want a variety of links pointing as pages all over your site so google learns to trust the entire site and not just the homepage.

Use both text links and image links (or make sure your SEO guy is using both).

Once you have your site divided into as many related keywords as possible, then begins the article writing process. It could take as many as 1500 articles and 20 high trust rank links to get your site ranked. You want as many social media accounts as possible. You want the best content you can get on your site and so far I'm honestly not seeing any of this.

I'm not sure when you began doing SEO on the site but realize it will take a lot of time before google begins to associate trust to your site. I remember reading somewhere it can take between 2-6 years to really get a site (this competitive) situated how you want.

Although it will mostly depend on what YOU know and not your SEO guys. If you don't know anything about SEO, you really have no idea whether your SEO guy is even good. This is the main reason I read about SEO everyday because there are so many people out there that just want to get paid and probably do not give 2 ****s whether your site gets banned or not. I have seen some SEO guys charge enormous fees just to spam the hell out of nonrelated blogs. Its a total waste of money so make sure you learn SOMETHING about SEO.

Do not be one of those website owners that just pays for backlinks over and over and you wind up with a ton of links but the site itself performs like garbage.

SEO is a very tedious thing, so be patient, get your feet wet at least a little bit about what SEO really is, and if you keep working at it and never give up at some point you should definitely begin to see results.

good luck - Red
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mary5428

14 years ago

Doing SEO is really a tough one job, you really need a lot of time and effort to build links.

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pinkdeanna

14 years ago

InsLibrary, the first and most crucial step is to determine what niche and keywords you'll be targeting. Niche and keywords are two different things. I read a suggestion somewhere saying you have to focus on one aspect of insurance like motorcycle - this can be your niche. Keywords on the other hand are the words that your prospects are going to use when they are in the market to get an insurance for your motorcycle.

In your earlier post, you mentioned that your SEO guy was target "what is insurance." For one, that is not a keyword that potential prospects would use if they were at least 50% ready to buy an insurance. They may be just doing a research for school work when they used that keyword.

But it's a different story if you used motorcycle insurance price comparison. You know that they are using that keyword because they are interested and are most likely in the market to get an insurance for their motorcycle.

Regarding the size of your website, Red mentioned about having a big, authority site with different niches. You can choose to do this too but as mentioned, this takes a lot of time. However, if you want to target all sorts of insurance, then by all means go for a big authority site. But if you, as a branch manager, only deal with let's say life insurance, then what's the point of targeting the other types of insurance? Why not narrow down the work and minimize your spending by just focusing on your area?

Just my 2 cents.

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shubham05

14 years ago

Its totally depends upon google panda because its changes monthly.

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satilydregon

14 years ago

The search engines has lately made some very considerable changes in its position formula. The newest upgrade, known as by The search engines message board customers as "Allegra", has eventually left some web websites in the dirt and launched others to top roles.

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