Give your price and LOSE THE SALE

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Here are a few points which I find important to share with you when it comes to price and when to bring the subject into the sales conversation.

No matter what you are selling whether it's web design or SEO or even just setting appointments, the subject of price is going to come up very early in the sales conversation, usually after you qualify that this is a prospect and not a suspect, in other words someone you should invest your call time with.

Usually the first thing a prospect is going to ask you is: 'How much is it?'

If you show your hand here 90% of the time you will shut down the sale, even if your price is the lowest or the best price on the market.

Here's the thing: price is important, but it's very rarely the deciding factor in buying anything. People buy value, they buy benefits. If price was a primary motivator in selling then no one would buy Rolex watches or a $700 pair of shoes.

Remember, when you first talk to your prospect they know FOR SURE how much $1,000 or $10,000 is worth to them and their business, but you and your product? Not so much..

Especially in dealing with smaller businesses they will be careful in handing over a check to you in return for are essentially promises of more leads and sales. For a lot of these companies it is their daily cash flow that they will be siphoning from, so as soon as you mention your price without giving all the benefits and value your product has for them, your sale is going to be viewed by definition, as a transactional commodity that can do without rather than a solution.

The sale is made and lost in the presentation, not at the close. When you start demonstrating all the wonderful things your product can do for your prospect that's when his desire is going to reach parity to how much he values his money. And the more you talk about benefits the stronger his desire to own your product is going to become.. and the corollary to this is the more you talk and fight and argue over price the more you are educating the prospect that price should be a primary concern.

What I've found to be the most effective strategy in dealing with price at the start of the call is to sidestep the issue entirely. I don't do ballparks, I don't give round or odd numbers or try to smooth my way past it.

When I get a question such as 'How much is it' or 'How much does it cost?'

'I appreciate that price is important to you, Mr. Prospect. May I come to that in a second?..'

And then keep going..

I can't remember the last time someone asked for price a second time after saying this.

I don't think price makes even the top 5 reasons for why people buy anything, to be quite honest with you. There's quality, suitability, warranty, delivery, service, all of these things adds to the psychic value which lays the foundation of making the sale. Price does not.

So if price isn't really that important then why does every prospect that we speak to seem to be obsessed with getting the lowest price and everything either seems to expensive or they can't afford it?

This is only my personal belief, but I think it comes from that fact that the language of money is universal. Languages and customs are different throughout the world, but money is ubiquitous in whatever country you may be in.

When customers ask for your price I believe they are attempting to create a relationship with you, between what your product costs and does and every other purchase they have made in the past. They want to know how it compares and to keep consistent with their personal buying strategy.

Whatever the theory may be, price is not a critical factor in any meaningful purchase.

If the customer says it's too expensive.

'Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?'

Most people have no idea how much things should cost.

If the customer says they can't afford it.

'How do you mean, Mr. Prospect?


Get behind the reason, find the meaning in what they are telling you if there is any.

If there isn't you can advance fearlessly knowing this was nothing more than a smokescreen.


Price is always going to be a contentious issue. But concessions do not increase attractiveness, and discounts do not work to make more sales, they only hurt profitability in the long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author bawls
    Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

    Here are a few points which I find important to share with you when it comes to price and when to bring the subject into the sales conversation.

    No matter what you are selling whether it's web design or SEO or even just setting appointments, the subject of price is going to come up very early in the sales conversation, usually after you qualify that this is a prospect and not a suspect, in other words someone you should invest your call time with.

    Usually the first thing a prospect is going to ask you is: 'How much is it?'

    If you show your hand here 90% of the time you will shut down the sale, even if your price is the lowest or the best price on the market.

    Here's the thing: price is important, but it's very rarely the deciding factor in buying anything. People buy value, they buy benefits. If price was a primary motivator in selling then no one would buy Rolex watches or a $700 pair of shoes.

    Remember when you first talk to a prospect they know FOR SURE how much $1,000 or $2,000 is worth to them or their business, but you or your product? Not so much..

    Especially in dealing with smaller businesses they will be careful in handing over a check to you in return for are essentially promises of more leads and sales. For a lot of these companies it is their daily cash flow that they will be siphoning from, so as soon as you mention your price without giving all the benefits and value your product has for them, your sale is going to viewed as a transactional commodity that can do without rather than a solution.

    The sale is made and lost in the presentation, not at the close. When you start demonstrating all the wonderful things your product can do for your prospect that's when his desire is going to reach parity to how much he values his money. And the more you talk about benefits the stronger his desire to own your product is going to become.. and the corollary to this is the more you talk and fight and argue over price the more you are educating the prospect that price should be a primary concern.

    What I've found to be the most effective strategy in dealing with price at the start of the call is to sidestep the issue of price entirely. I don't do ballparks, I don't give round or odd numbers or try to smooth my way past it.

    When I get a question such as 'How much is it' or 'How much does it cost?'

    'I appreciate that price is important to you, Mr. Prospect. May I come to that in a second?..'

    And then keep going..

    I can't remember the last time someone asked for price a second time after saying this.

    I don't think price even makes the top 5 reasons for why people buy anything, to be quite honest with you. There's quality, suitability, warranty, delivery, service, all of these things adds to the psychic value which lays the foundation of making the sale. Price does not.

    So if price isn't really that important then why does every prospect that we speak to seem to be obsessed with getting the lowest price and everything either seems to expensive or they can't afford it?

    This is only my personal belief, but I think it comes from that fact that the language of money is universal. Languages and customs are different throughout the world, but money is ubiquitous in whatever country you may be in.

    When customers ask for your price I believe they are attempting to create a relationship with you, between what your product costs and does and every other purchase they have made in the past. They want to know how it compares and to keep consistent with their personal buying strategy.

    Whatever the theory may be, price is not a critical factor in any meaningful purchase.

    If the customer says it's too expensive.

    'Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?'

    Most people have no idea how much things should cost.

    If the customer says they can't afford it.

    'How do you mean, Mr. Prospect?


    Get behind the reason, find the meaning in what they are telling you if there is any.

    If there isn't you can advance confidently knowing this was nothing more than a smokescreen.


    Price is always going to be a contentious issue. But concessions do not increase attractiveness, and discounts do not work to make more sales, they only hurt profitability in the long term.
    Advertise your price straight out...saves time and effort or just target people who can afford it.Remember you can only play the numbers when its a numbers game.
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    • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
      Originally Posted by bawls View Post

      Advertise your price straight out...saves time and effort or just target people who can afford it.
      It's not about them being able but being willing buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
        Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

        It's not about them being able but being willing buy.
        I am not sure about that.
        They have to be able to buy.

        For example:
        I am willing to buy a house for $10 mil
        But, I am currently not able to do so.

        I am willing to buy a lot of things... but I am not able to.

        First you have to find out if they are able.
        That they have the budget, and can make the decision.
        Then, your presentation has to make them willing.
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        • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
          Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

          I am not sure about that.
          They have to be able to buy.

          For example:
          I am willing to buy a house for $10 mil
          But, I am currently not able to do so.

          I am willing to buy a lot of things... but I am not able to.

          First you have to find out if they are able.
          That they have the budget, and can make the decision.
          Then, your presentation has to make them willing.
          People that legitimately are not able to pay are not prospects and therefore you should get off that sale as soon as possible.

          But then again look at the amount that people spend on credit cards, hire purchases, drugs, cigarettes, they drive cars that are uneconomical and buy houses which are mortgaged out the ass. Even if they technically aren't able to pay for something if their willingness is strong enough they WILL find the money to buy it.

          Obviously if you can't afford what I'm selling I'm not going to waste time with you. But the people that say they can't afford it, don't have the budget et al are more than likely lying to you because you haven't demonstrated value. I'm always suspicious when I hear this so I make sure this is a condition for the sale not progressing and not merely a fob off objection.
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          • Profile picture of the author bawls
            Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

            People that legitimately are not able to pay are not prospects and therefore you should get off that sale as soon as possible.

            But then again look at the amount that people spend on credit cards, hire purchases, drugs, cigarettes, they drive cars that are uneconomical and buy houses which are mortgaged out the ass. Even if they technically aren't able to pay for something if their willingness is strong enough they WILL find the money to buy it.

            Obviously if you can't afford what I'm selling I'm not going to waste time with you. But the people that say they can't afford it, don't have the budget et al are more than likely lying to you because you haven't demonstrated value. I'm always suspicious when I hear this so I make sure this is a condition for the sale not progressing and not merely a fob off objection.
            what you think they can afford is an assumption, I see small businesses that look like they are macking it hard...but the owner is personally broke.
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  • Profile picture of the author emozart
    PanteraIM - I've never gotten a sale when I answered the question "what's the price?" before they prospect has answered in their own words "what are my services worth to your business?"

    In negotiation - the person who answers the first question is generally at a disadvantage and loses some positioning in the negotiation.

    Your strategy is generally sound and any time you can reverse the line of questioning and force the other person to have to think on their feet (ie - 'expensive compared to what?' or 'what do you mean by that?') strengthens your position.

    I assume you are selling services with a flexible pricing schedule?
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    • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
      Originally Posted by emozart View Post

      PanteraIM - I've never gotten a sale when I answered the question "what's the price?" before they prospect has answered in their own words "what are my services worth to your business?"

      In negotiation - the person who answers the first question is generally at a disadvantage and loses some positioning in the negotiation.

      Your strategy is generally sound and any time you can reverse the line of questioning and force the other person to have to think on their feet (ie - 'expensive compared to what?' or 'what do you mean by that?') strengthens your position.

      I assume you are selling services with a flexible pricing schedule?
      Hey man,

      "What are my services worth to your business?"

      That's a great question to ask, and is a variation on what I use near the end of the presentation just after I establish the time frame and urgency needs for their project.

      I became good at structuring price in the conversation by selling to customers calling in to get quotes on a product that had no price listed on an advertisement and had a very rigid pricing structure, basically that was the price - take it or leave it, no negotiation whatsoever so you really had to SELL instead of giving concessions.

      At the moment I'm working for myself so yes, my prices are flexible, but I stand behind the model I was trained in because it WORKS even if it seems counter-intuitive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

    When customers ask for your price I believe they are attempting to create a relationship with you, between what your product costs and does and every other purchase they have made in the past. They want to know how it compares and to keep consistent with their personal buying strategy.

    If the customer says it's too expensive.

    'Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?'
    Your post contained a lot of well thought out ideas.
    But people ask price so that they will have something to say "No" to.

    The "Compared to what?" answer sounds good, and works occasionally. But if they say that "It costs too much", the momentum is in that direction.

    That's why it's important to not let them say "it costs too much".

    Good discussion, I think.


    Added a minute later after I thought about it;
    Postponing the "price" answer works sometimes, I suppose. But if I ask it, I want an answer.
    If you were being pitched, and asked the price....would not getting an answer be OK with you? That's why I give the price, when they ask.
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    • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Your post contained a lot of well thought out ideas.
      But people ask price so that they will have something to say "No" to.

      The "Compared to what?" answer sounds good, and works occasionally. But if they say that "It costs too much", the momentum is in that direction.

      That's why it's important to not let them say "it costs too much".

      Good discussion, I think.


      Added a minute later after I thought about it;
      Postponing the "price" answer works sometimes, I suppose. But if I ask it, I want an answer.
      If you were being pitched, and asked the price....would not getting an answer be OK with you? That's why I give the price, when they ask.
      Well said, Claude.

      Price out of place kills the sale.

      I've found that it's more valuable to maintain control of the conversation than to project how I would like to be pitched.

      Of course I don't want to be 'sold' to by someone and who does?

      But really good selling is enjoyable, everything just flows conversationally which I am sure is something you can appreciate as well.

      I still stand behind what I said.

      So If someone is really insistent on getting the price I say this:

      'I would love to tell you how much it is but there's something I need to SHOW YOU first'

      Get the price out of the way at the beginning of the conversation. Once you've established the fundamentals then you can introduce price along with the reasons why the price is more than justified.


      This is what you are trained to do if you go and work in some of the big lead gen call centres selling $$$$ ticket items, no one would call in if they knew it was going to be $2,000 for a piece of gym equipment they can get on Ebay for $450, so you have to SELL and position the price at the end.

      Top agents were turning over $2,000,000 per year individually at 400% mark up... It's actually not that hard with their price points and financing options, one or two Total Gyms at $2,500 a pop and then a few midrange $500 products will get you your $8k daily target working 8 hrs a day..

      Even answering inbound calls they are like 'How much is it?' Their whole sales strategy is centred around price positioning and this was one of the most successful direct TV advertising companies in the Southern Hemisphere.... so yeah.. it works.
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      • Profile picture of the author shane_k
        Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post


        Get the price out of the way at the beginning of the conversation. Once you've established the fundamentals then you can introduce price along with the reasons why the price is more than justified.

        This is what you are trained to do if you go and work in some of the big lead gen call centres selling $$$$ ticket items,
        It's great that you were taught a strategy that has worked for you in the past, and is still working for you.

        My advice would be to just make sure that you don't get so focused on the sales rules you have learned, and the order of steps you have to go through, that you miss the buying signals that your prospect is giving you while you are talking to them.

        I know alot of people say that when someone asks for the price, it means they want an excuse to say no, and this is not always true. (No offence to Claude)

        Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.

        It's your job as a sales person, to put your assumptions aside, and be able to see if them asking for the price is actually a buying signal, or not.

        It's about flexibility, and paying attention to the person in front of you, and not being so caught up in, "ok first I have to do step 1, then I go to step 2, then step 3, and then finally when those are done we'll move to step 4"

        Real life can be chaotic and unexpected, and sometimes you sales process jumps from step 1, to step 3, then a quick close.
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        • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

          It's great that you were taught a strategy that has worked for you in the past, and is still working for you.

          My advice would be to just make sure that you don't get so focused on the sales rules you have learned, and the order of steps you have to go through, that you miss the buying signals that your prospect is giving you while you are talking to them.

          I know alot of people say that when someone asks for the price, it means they want an excuse to say no, and this is not always true. (No offence to Claude)

          Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.

          It's your job as a sales person, to put your assumptions aside, and be able to see if them asking for the price is actually a buying signal, or not.

          It's about flexibility, and paying attention to the person in front of you, and not being so caught up in, "ok first I have to do step 1, then I go to step 2, then step 3, and then finally when those are done we'll move to step 4"

          Real life can be chaotic and unexpected, and sometimes you sales process jumps from step 1, to step 3, then a quick close.
          You have a million dollar attitude here man.

          God bless you.

          This is MY method and it works for me because I believe that it will.

          Claude may sell another way, but we're still warrior brothers on our own paths and destinies of success.
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        • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

          It's great that you were taught a strategy that has worked for you in the past, and is still working for you.

          My advice would be to just make sure that you don't get so focused on the sales rules you have learned, and the order of steps you have to go through, that you miss the buying signals that your prospect is giving you while you are talking to them.

          I know alot of people say that when someone asks for the price, it means they want an excuse to say no, and this is not always true. (No offence to Claude)

          Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.

          It's your job as a sales person, to put your assumptions aside, and be able to see if them asking for the price is actually a buying signal, or not.

          It's about flexibility, and paying attention to the person in front of you, and not being so caught up in, "ok first I have to do step 1, then I go to step 2, then step 3, and then finally when those are done we'll move to step 4"

          Real life can be chaotic and unexpected, and sometimes you sales process jumps from step 1, to step 3, then a quick close.
          I think this is the best answer in the thread, not all sales meetings (phone or in person) will be the same, i have had business owners that asked the price on the phone and paid within hours.. and i have had prospects that i talked with for at least two hours before they made the buying decision.

          You got to get a feeling for it, but when a prospect ask for a price i will give it to them, there is no real way around it so you better make sure your pitch came across before that question comes up.

          If you beat around the bush it will look like you're hiding something because you're stalling... Business owners will pick up on that and all your pitching will be for nothing, cus you lost all trust with them.
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          • Profile picture of the author James English
            This is a tricky one, and my experience has been more inline with the OP than anything.

            I understand what a lot of you are saying about giving the price when its asked for, but what if they ask for the price before I have had proper time to evaluate the problem and come up with a price?

            A number of us don't have rigid pricing structures. The price changes depending on the client and the amount of work involved. If a perspective client asks for a price before I have reached that point of the pitch, I have failed as a sales person.

            (Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, but this is the case most of the time)
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          • Profile picture of the author Brian Alaway
            What about answering that you customize your packages to the clients needs and then continue to inquire about their needs?
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            • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
              Originally Posted by Brian Alaway View Post

              What about answering that you customize your packages to the clients needs and then continue to inquire about their needs?
              This is a perfect answer. Make sure they understand if it doesn't satisfy give a range of where most clients have fallen in the past.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

          I know alot of people say that when someone asks for the price, it means they want an excuse to say no, and this is not always true. (No offence to Claude)

          Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.
          None taken. I was assuming the OP meant giving the price at the beginning of the presentation. Giving the price after some real value has been established is another matter. My approach would sound stupid (and derail the sale) if it was applied late in the presentation.

          And if they ask for the price late in the presentation, it's usually because they are considering it. But in the beginning? they want to disqualify you. At least that's my experience.

          Also, at the beginning...what other question would they ask? They don't know enough to ask many other questions.
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        • Profile picture of the author mojo1
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

          Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.
          It's your job as a sales person, to put your assumptions aside, and be able to see if them asking for the price is actually a buying signal, or not.
          I agree 100%.

          This describes my personal buying style. By the time I've asked for the price, I've already entertained myself owning, having, experiencing the damn thing so don't play mental hopscotch at that point.
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          • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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            I usually ask questions about their business as I go thru my presentation so price doesn't come up b4 I'm finished. If it does I still continue asking questions about his biz.

            Then...when I'm finished with spelling out the Benefits I use a phrase that has worked for me over the years.

            "Other than Price, is there any other reason why we can't do business today?"

            If he comes up with an objection or "stall", I answer it and get back to "Anthing else?"

            Don Alm....longtime sales guy
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            • Profile picture of the author PanteraIM
              Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

              I usually ask questions about their business as I go thru my presentation so price doesn't come up b4 I'm finished. If it does I still continue asking questions about his biz.

              Then...when I'm finished with spelling out the Benefits I use a phrase that has worked for me over the years.

              "Other than Price, is there any other reason why we can't do business today?"

              If he comes up with an objection or "stall", I answer it and get back to "Anthing else?"

              Don Alm....longtime sales guy
              Tip the bucket.

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            • Profile picture of the author misterme
              Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

              'I appreciate that price is important to you, Mr. Prospect. May I come to that in a second?..'

              And then keep going..

              I can't remember the last time someone asked for price a second time after saying this.
              Really? Because I would say to you, "No. I'd like an answer now."

              If the customer says it's too expensive.

              'Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?'
              Prospect: "Compared to everybody else."

              Originally Posted by bawls View Post

              Advertise your price straight out...saves time and effort or just target people who can afford it.
              It also makes it so people make decisions based solely on advertised price. People you may have gotten as paying clients. How many times do people spend more than they originally said they would? So the only time advertising a price works well to pull response is when you're the lowest price.

              Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

              Also personally I am not a fan of pricing based on what the customer can afford.
              Especially since you don't know what they really can afford. And we're not charities using an income based calculator to determine fees. Charge based on perceived value.

              Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

              Then...when I'm finished with spelling out the Benefits I use a phrase that has worked for me over the years.

              "Other than Price, is there any other reason why we can't do business today?"
              Yes, there are two more people I'm looking at and then I'm making my decision. Thank you.

              If he comes up with an objection or "stall", I answer it and get back to "Anthing else?"
              "Like I said, I'm not making a decision until I meet with everyone. By the way, I don't like being pushed. I'll make up my mind when I'm ready. Thank you. Have a good day."
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by misterme View Post


                If the customer says it's too expensive.

                "Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?"

                Prospect: "Compared to everybody else."
                Wow, you're a tough room.

                I agree with everything you said, and only mildly disagree on this one.

                I've said "Compared to what?" in answer to objections, as a way to ferret out the meaning of "too expensive".

                Because "Too expensive" can mean a multitude of things, and addressing the wrong meaning is sales suicide.

                It could mean;
                I don't have that much money
                I already have a better offer
                I have taken a solid vow not to pay more than half that
                My brother will give me the exact same service for half price
                I don't know...I always say "Too expensive" as my first line of defense.
                Saying "too expensive" is a reflex. I have no idea "compared to what?"

                Saying "Compared to what", hasn't made anyone mad that I've seen. And it sometimes brings out more information that's useful. But this was years ago.

                On the other hand, I can't remember the last time anyone said it to me.
                My presentation is engineered to not get that response.
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        • Profile picture of the author dave147
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post


          Sometimes when they ask for the price, it means they have heard enough, and have made a decision, and they are ready to move forward to the next step.

          It's your job as a sales person, to put your assumptions aside, and be able to see if them asking for the price is actually a buying signal, or not.
          Yes sometimes that is correct and yes it is your job to be flexible and recognise it as a buying signal, but when the price comes up 30 seconds into the presentation, more often than not, they have not heard enough to realise the value of your price, but yes it's great when an early price request is a buying signal and is recogised as such.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    Try reading or listening to one of Zig Ziglars masterpiece about closing the sale, it will explain everything and answer the questions you have here.

    Originally Posted by PanteraIM View Post

    Here are a few points which I find important to share with you when it comes to price and when to bring the subject into the sales conversation.

    No matter what you are selling whether it's web design or SEO or even just setting appointments, the subject of price is going to come up very early in the sales conversation, usually after you qualify that this is a prospect and not a suspect, in other words someone you should invest your call time with.

    Usually the first thing a prospect is going to ask you is: 'How much is it?'

    If you show your hand here 90% of the time you will shut down the sale, even if your price is the lowest or the best price on the market.

    Here's the thing: price is important, but it's very rarely the deciding factor in buying anything. People buy value, they buy benefits. If price was a primary motivator in selling then no one would buy Rolex watches or a $700 pair of shoes.

    Remember, when you first talk to your prospect they know FOR SURE how much $1,000 or $10,000 is worth to them and their business, but you and your product? Not so much..

    Especially in dealing with smaller businesses they will be careful in handing over a check to you in return for are essentially promises of more leads and sales. For a lot of these companies it is their daily cash flow that they will be siphoning from, so as soon as you mention your price without giving all the benefits and value your product has for them, your sale is going to be viewed by definition, as a transactional commodity that can do without rather than a solution.

    The sale is made and lost in the presentation, not at the close. When you start demonstrating all the wonderful things your product can do for your prospect that's when his desire is going to reach parity to how much he values his money. And the more you talk about benefits the stronger his desire to own your product is going to become.. and the corollary to this is the more you talk and fight and argue over price the more you are educating the prospect that price should be a primary concern.

    What I've found to be the most effective strategy in dealing with price at the start of the call is to sidestep the issue entirely. I don't do ballparks, I don't give round or odd numbers or try to smooth my way past it.

    When I get a question such as 'How much is it' or 'How much does it cost?'

    'I appreciate that price is important to you, Mr. Prospect. May I come to that in a second?..'

    And then keep going..

    I can't remember the last time someone asked for price a second time after saying this.

    I don't think price makes even the top 5 reasons for why people buy anything, to be quite honest with you. There's quality, suitability, warranty, delivery, service, all of these things adds to the psychic value which lays the foundation of making the sale. Price does not.

    So if price isn't really that important then why does every prospect that we speak to seem to be obsessed with getting the lowest price and everything either seems to expensive or they can't afford it?

    This is only my personal belief, but I think it comes from that fact that the language of money is universal. Languages and customs are different throughout the world, but money is ubiquitous in whatever country you may be in.

    When customers ask for your price I believe they are attempting to create a relationship with you, between what your product costs and does and every other purchase they have made in the past. They want to know how it compares and to keep consistent with their personal buying strategy.

    Whatever the theory may be, price is not a critical factor in any meaningful purchase.

    If the customer says it's too expensive.

    'Expensive compared to what, Mr. Prospect?'

    Most people have no idea how much things should cost.

    If the customer says they can't afford it.

    'How do you mean, Mr. Prospect?


    Get behind the reason, find the meaning in what they are telling you if there is any.

    If there isn't you can advance fearlessly knowing this was nothing more than a smokescreen.


    Price is always going to be a contentious issue. But concessions do not increase attractiveness, and discounts do not work to make more sales, they only hurt profitability in the long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    It has been my experience, that if a prospect asks you what the price is,
    and you dodge or redirect the question, they then wind up feeling unsatisfied.
    Depending on how smooth you transitioned away from the question, they
    might not feel unsatisfied right away, but they will eventually.

    Usually at some critical moment in the process.

    It is human nature, when you ask a question, you expect an answer, so you wait
    for it for a bit, then you get distracted, then later you hear the price, now you
    remember you already asked that question ... now you want to know why
    you did not get the answer when you asked it... that leads to another question
    ... and another and so on,

    you might not ask them out loud, but the questions are kicking around inside your
    head, muddying up the sales process.

    I also know any sales person worth his or her salt has a pretty good idea
    of why the prospect is asking for the price.


    If its in the first few minutes, it is to gain control over you.
    If its after spending time building expectations, its because they want it

    that is just two standards, there are literally 100's. Everyone has a "tell"
    and it usually only takes a few minutes to figure them out.

    A lot of people already know they have a want/ need/ desire for your
    widget or service. They are merely taking the time to figure out if
    they are going to buy from you. They want to figure out if
    they can trust you, if they like you, and if your "the" guy.

    Different from the last 10 chuckle heads that sold the same thing and pissed him off.


    For me personally. If they ask in less then 5 minutes. I tell them its only a million dollars.

    If they ask me any time after I have built credibility and desire, i just tell them the price.
    Then I immediately tell them to go get a piece of paper and there credit card.

    If they are sold, that is what they will do, if not, they wont hesitate to tell
    you why they aren't ready, and now the sale really begins.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Morris
      Been a while since I posted but anyway,
      For me its about creating value, you cannot really talk about price until you understand the value your services will bring to the company. Asking questions like 'What does an average customer spend?' 'What is your gross margin?' serve a dual purpose.

      1. They allow you to position pricing better if you understand the value of attracting new customers.
      2. You show a more consultative approach allowing you to move away from a pure price based sale.

      Its selling 101 but it is about asking the right questions and controlling the conversation. You are looking for their pain point and it may not be where you think it is. You wont know until you ask the right questions.
      Starting with 'Tell me about your business?" is perfect.

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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I just want to add my two cents here.

    1. If someone asks for a price answer that question. If you don't answer it that will be on their mind the whole time.

    2. That goes for all questions. Always answer them as best you can in that moment. If they want to know something they will keep thinking about it till they get an answer. And if they are thinking about that they are not listening to you.

    3. A price answer does not have to be an exact answer and often can not be. Consider "starting at" or "up to" answers or even a range. How you answer it depends on your product, service, and how you price things but have an answer. Don't brush it off.

    4. That said know how to use the answer to move along. "We have packages that start at $299. Part of the reason we are meeting today is to get a feel for what would work best for your business. I am sure you would rather have us offer you solutions tailored to your needs, isn't that right?" That way they push the price idea out of their head for now. What you say here will need to be tailored to your products.

    Overall my feeling is that people who side step the price question were taught this by old school sales trainers. The kind of guys who sold cars for a few years in the 70's or 80's and now are considered experts because they told your boss they were experts. These "trainers" often have this weird belief that you can trick people into paying more and thus get better grosses.

    Let me get that idea out of your head right now. If you sell a product or similar to what others sell you need to be price competitive or you need to be very good at showing why yours is worth a premium. People buy when value (for them) exceeds cost.

    Also personally I am not a fan of pricing based on what the customer can afford. While this may help make you money in some cases I think it is too likely to come back and bite you. Price based on what you do. If a small business can't afford to pay you don't lower your price. And if a huge company could pay more don't just charge them more. of course don't just leave money on the table. You can always put together a bigger package with more value to justify that higher price. And larger companies often want larger solutions. But never charge one company $500 and another $2000 for the same solution. You want referral business and each may refer you to smaller or larger companies. Don't get stuck in a situation where you get "found out".

    Want to work for a percentage of sales? Some companies will be willing to pay you that way but be up front that you work that way. Some big names handle things this way but I have never liked that idea because if they suck you get paid too little and if they turn into rock stars they begin to resent paying you that percentage. You seemed damned either way and I don't ever want to feel that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author James English
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      Also personally I am not a fan of pricing based on what the customer can afford. While this may help make you money in some cases I think it is too likely to come back and bite you. Price based on what you do. If a small business can't afford to pay you don't lower your price. And if a huge company could pay more don't just charge them more. of course don't just leave money on the table. You can always put together a bigger package with more value to justify that higher price. And larger companies often want larger solutions. But never charge one company $500 and another $2000 for the same solution. You want referral business and each may refer you to smaller or larger companies. Don't get stuck in a situation where you get "found out".
      I am going to disagree with you on this...to an extent.

      Lets say I am performing SEO for 2 different companies. Company 1 is a fairly large e-commerce store with loads of competition. Company 2 is a shop in my city.

      SEO is the current solution for both of them, but the time to fulfill the work for company 1 outweighs that of company 2 by an enormous amount.

      The solution is the same, but the process to fulfill that solution is quite different. This is the reason I don't use set pricing, and why I never have a price in mind until I have had time to gauge how long it will take and how much work it will require from me.

      This could be what you meant by "You can always put together a bigger package with more value to justify your price". If so, my apologies in advance.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by Trent English View Post

        I am going to disagree with you on this...to an extent.

        Lets say I am performing SEO for 2 different companies. Company 1 is a fairly large e-commerce store with loads of competition. Company 2 is a shop in my city.

        SEO is the current solution for both of them, but the time to fulfill the work for company 1 outweighs that of company 2 by an enormous amount.

        The solution is the same, but the process to fulfill that solution is quite different. This is the reason I don't use set pricing, and why I never have a price in mind until I have had time to gauge how long it will take and how much work it will require from me.

        This could be what you meant by "You can always put together a bigger package with more value to justify your price". If so, my apologies in advance.

        whats wrong with answering the question honestly.

        saying something like ... I don't know yet, because ...

        But the key is you answered it. Now you can move on with out it being constantly on their mind,
        you justified WHY you don't know yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author James English
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          whats wrong with answering the question honestly.

          saying something like I don't know yet, because ...

          But the key is you answered it. Now you can move on with out it being constantly on their mind, you justified WHY you dont know yet.
          Very good point! I never thought of it that way
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        • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          whats wrong with answering the question honestly.

          saying something like ... I don't know yet, because ...

          But the key is you answered it. Now you can move on with out it being constantly on their mind,
          you justified WHY you don't know yet.
          I don't know how much guys here get questions they can't answer but this is huge for inside sales.

          One of the biggest lessons someone selling cars (or similar) can learn is to be able to answer that they don't know.

          A real world example from selling campers.

          Customer "Do you know how long this camper is?"

          Me "The box size is 32ft and that means the camper is about 35ft from the tip to tip. I am not sure of the exact size off the top of my head but we can get that when we go back into the building. Will that work for you?"

          Customer "Yes it will"

          Me "Great. Now do you need to park this in an area where space will be limited?"

          etc etc

          Always do the following.

          1. Give the best answer you have at the time. Even if that answer is you have no idea of the answer.
          2. Explain how you will later get them the exact answer. Sometimes you may have to call someone and get an answer in a few days. Be honest about this.
          3. Probe the question to see if there is more to the question. Often there is an "objection" hidden in it that you can defuse early.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          whats wrong with answering the question honestly.

          saying something like ... I don't know yet, because ...

          But the key is you answered it. Now you can move on with out it being constantly on their mind,
          you justified WHY you don't know yet.
          Ken; Your honesty is no match for my convoluted reverse back-flip approach.

          This whole "being honest with prospects" just rubs me the wrong way.
          And if I'm going to be rubbed...I want it to be the right way.


          Originally Posted by Brian Alaway View Post

          What about answering that you customize your packages to the clients needs and then continue to inquire about their needs?
          Also another way of being non-evasive with the client. And that answer would satisfy anyone.

          The only reason I prefer my "quote a high price and then get them used to it" approach is that I'm always selling the same service. My prices don't vary. My offer doesn't really vary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Trent the solutions there are not the same. You need to do more. Thus you are pricing based on what you have to do.

    Offering the same solution would be adding 10 links a month for each yet charging one 5 times what you charge the other.

    SEO is a service that really must be priced on a trailored basis. And yes you will charge more to some based on what is needed to be done.

    But you will not be charging more just because they can afford it. Nor will you be charging less when they can't afford it.

    If they want to get to _____ you will need to do ______ which will cost ______. As long as you have a real formula and the price is based on what you do that is honest pricing.

    My issue is with the people who really offer everyone the same package but charge them all different prices based on what they can afford or the value you bring them.

    If my $299 solution can bring a business $1 million in value that is great. But don't charge them more for it. But consider charging more in general for it. Maybe your solution is really worth $5,000 and you just need to be selling it to less clients but those who can afford it.

    IMO pricing should always be based on what you are doing not what it will do for the client. What it will do for the client is how you shown them the value. You shouldn't feel bad because you are making them money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    "I don't know."

    Three of the most powerful words in turning questions around.

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  • Profile picture of the author dave147
    You must build and explain the value first before giving the price, especially when they ask too soon, otherwise your product or service will most likely be seen as too expensive and attention will be lost
    but after building value and creating the desire for your product or service, then that same price becomes affordable and even super-affordable, depending on how much value you can express
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Of course, watch out not to say "I don't know" more than a couple of times. More than that and people will take you as unknowledgeable which in turn will cost you credibility and the sale, as they want to buy from someone who can answer their questions. "Give me someone who knows what they're doing!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I don't normally use "compared to?" but use the similar "why do you think..." method to that kind of "too expensive" objection.

    That way you can see if it is budget, value not there, competitor or etc that is the real objection.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      I don't normally use "compared to?" but use the similar "why do you think..." method to that kind of "too expensive" objection.

      That way you can see if it is budget, value not there, competitor or etc that is the real objection.

      I think I would just look at them and say "Oh?" or "Too expensive?".

      And then just let them tell me whatever they want.
      At this point I may start losing interest.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I think I would just look at them and say "Oh?" or "Too expensive?".

        And then just let them tell me whatever they want.
        At this point I may start losing interest.

        Always loved the "Oh?" with the puzzled look followed by silence. That is just pure power if you can hold that puzzled look without looking stupid till they talk.

        From a guy like me who talks a lot and is very active I find the silence is even more powerful. They have gotten used to me talking and interacting with them so silence with me feels so wrong they have to fill the void.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

          Always loved the "Oh?" with the puzzled look followed by silence. That is just pure power if you can hold that puzzled look without looking stupid till they talk.

          From a guy like me who talks a lot and is very active I find the silence is even more powerful. They have gotten used to me talking and interacting with them so silence with me feels so wrong they have to fill the void.
          Aaron; There is an entire art to saying "Oh?".
          I say it as if they are a child saying to me "I don't need your permission to go outside". Almost as if to say "How dare you question me?"

          I try to convey that what they said isn't normal, and I'm not used to hearing it.
          If done exactly right, they may even question why they said "it's too expensive".

          I may cock my head to the side a little and sit back in my chair. If they hesitate more than a few seconds, I will raise my eyebrows ever so slightly.

          As in "You were saying?'.

          But... This would be madness if they didn't already see value in what you have, and really want it. They need to see you as an authority.

          I used to use a lot of humor when selling (in people's homes). Partly because they enjoyed it, and partly because it made the whole thing more fun for me. If I used this idea after joking around for an hour...it would fall flat. Their image of you needs to be consistent for this to have an effect.

          I think these things out way too much.

          Aaron; Could you go there and say something? I think I killed that thread.
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