When to talk price and answer questions

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Got a big meeting with a car dealer management team tomorrow to do a presentation and proposal.

My question is if they start asking about price or other questions in the middle of the presentation, would you answer at that point or tell them you'll answer their questions at the end of the presentation?

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    Got a big meeting with a car dealer management team tomorrow to do a presentation and proposal.

    My question is if they start asking about price or other questions in the middle of the presentation, would you answer at that point or tell them you'll answer their questions at the end of the presentation?

    Thanks.
    If you asked a question in a presentation, when would you want it answered?

    I always answer those questions right away. If it's early in the presentation I may say "Well, if you want me to do everything I may propose, the total will be $5,000. Let's find out what you actually need done, and then I can give you a firm price on the work I'll be doing. OK?"

    Never be afraid to throw out a price. If they don't go into immediate convulsions...it will give them a little time to get used to the price.

    If they start asking lots of questions, they may derail the whole thing. Unless the answer to each question furthers the sale. And it should.

    Any question they ask that you don't have a perfect answer for? Go over the question after you leave. Create an answer that furthers the sale. Memorize it.

    After doing that for a year? You'll be Invincible.

    How you answer those interruption questions will determine if they buy. Try to find an opportunity to say "No" to something.

    You want to be very "Matter of fact" when answering questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    One thing I have seen work is to be right upfront with the price.

    "Just to let you know, my minimum project is $5,000."

    They will either choke, or set an appointment. If they choke, they probably were a weak prospect to begin with. If they set an appointment, you have a good chance at selling.

    You could start your appointment with that line and see how they respond. They might tell you to leave. Great, you didn't waste your time. If they want to hear more, you have a good chance at closing.

    Price can be a filter in the service business. This isn't so much true for products.
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    Price should be talked about somewhere along the line of the beginning of the meeting, but not right away.

    Dan is right though about being upfront and not saving it for the end. You also want to be confident in your price and to explain to them about what it is you can give them for the price you are asking them.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Not the best idea to be spending your time meeting with people who haven't been qualified as to a budget range in the first place.

    And at the meeting if price is brought up prematurely, car dealerships out of all people ought to know we "brush aside" the price question.

    That doesn't mean telling them all their price questions will be answered at the end. When they bring it up, they kind of want to know. So telling them then to hold it comes off as dodgy. Old school. Salesy.

    Try this instead: Set the agenda. Tell them up front before you start what the outline is - and get their agreement. "First, let's talk about... then we'll look at... and then I'll go over pricing options and give you all the information you need, OK?"

    They now know you'll get to the price and have agreed to when.

    Now if they bring it up, brush it aside and get back on topic. "Absolutely want to give you pricing but first let me ask you..."

    They bring it up yet again? Answer it. Give them a range. Then get back on topic.

    But again, shouldn't be meeting with people unless they have some idea of what it may cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      Not the best idea to be spending your time meeting with people who haven't been qualified as to a budget range in the first place.
      Dammit! That's a great point Misterme.

      I did a free consultation with him and he said come back with your best ideas and a proposal.

      So at that point, I should have asked "If I can show you how to sell more used cars how much would you be willing to invest". Is that a good way to ask?

      Based on what I know, they're probably spending 40-50k/mo. and at this point I'm just trying to get my foot in the door so my proposal is going to be for about 2.5k/mo. so I guess I figured if they liked the strategy, budget wouldn't be a problem. Also, I'm going to recommend they move the money out of the 8 billboards they're doing and into this strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

        Dammit! That's a great point Misterme.

        I did a free consultation with him and he said come back with your best ideas and a proposal.

        So at that point, I should have asked "If I can show you how to sell more used cars how much would you be willing to invest". Is that a good way to ask?

        Based on what I know, they're probably spending 40-50k/mo. and at this point I'm just trying to get my foot in the door so my proposal is going to be for about 2.5k/mo. so I guess I figured if they liked the strategy, budget wouldn't be a problem. Also, I'm going to recommend they move the money out of the 8 billboards they're doing and into this strategy.
        About the billboards; This may be a pet project of one of the people at the meeting. Ask how many sales a month they track to the billboards. Muddy that water a bit. And if they really like those billboards....

        Then ask them it it makes sense to make the billboards more profitable...by creating a better online presence. Because Online is where the billboards are driving the people.

        If they aren't in love with billboards, ask when the contracts are up with the billboards. If it's month to month, or a few billboards are free in a month or two...suggest siphoning some money to your deal.

        Otherwise, make the billboards more profitable. You never know how they feel about certain projects (like billboards). Make sure you know...before offering a suggestion.

        This is very important stuff, and a crucial point of the presentation.

        Good luck. Be calm...don't screw up. Tell us how it went. I'm very interested in how you did.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

        Dammit! That's a great point Misterme.

        So at that point, I should have asked "If I can show you how to sell more used cars how much would you be willing to invest". Is that a good way to ask?
        Misterme is about the best there is here. I wouldn't ask it that way. They may say "What can you do for $100?", and you'll burst out crying. (I would)

        I may ask; "Have you ever had a customer say they found you online?"
        "How many a month, would you say?"
        "If I could increase that number by ten, how much would you think that would be worth to you?" Get a figure. Massage it until it's at least $5,000 a month.

        Then you can drop to $3,500 and you'll hear an audible "Sigh" of relief.

        Is this your first auto dealer? If it is, mention that you will do far more work that normal for your fee, because you want them to brag to their dealer friends about their results.

        Man, I sure hope you get this deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    Thanks a lot Claude. Yea 1st dealer. My offer is going to include at no charge 2 hours of consulting for whatever they need (they definitely need it) and hand holding on my strategy until we get it right.

    Basically what I'm recommending is using a hyper targeted lead gen display ad to drive traffic to an optin where they prequalify and then to a simple one page used car site with all their inventory and a "quality assurance" and testimonial video. Plus autoresponder emails of course.

    Based on our 1st meeting, I'm sure he (the owner) is going to like it. He's already got a pretty good idea of the strategy. I hope the internet manager likes it because he's probably the main other guy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

      Basically what I'm recommending is using a hyper targeted lead gen display ad to drive traffic to an optin where they prequalify and then to a simple one page used car site with all their inventory and a "quality assurance" and testimonial video. Plus autoresponder emails of course.

      Based on our 1st meeting, I'm sure he (the owner) is going to like it. He's already got a pretty good idea of the strategy. I hope the internet manager likes it because he's probably the main other guy.
      Paul; Like Misterme said, lose the autoresponder idea. Add a few Youtube videos to show up in local searches...that take the viwer to a website, or a direct call to the dealer. Videos also show that things are happening.

      Again, if it's your first dealer, mention that he's your first (this will also get rid of the question/trap "Who have you worked for?") auto dealer, so everything you do for him will be custom and not templates. And that he'll be your only auto dealer in the area.

      You already have a small problem, in that the owner already has thought about just letting one of his guys do it. You have to let them know that you're an expert.

      Me? I may bring up that you could train an employee over a three month period....But they would be paying both you and him. Or you can just do everything yourself...cheaper.

      I like to say (as part of my presentation)

      "I have 37 separate steps I take to get videos ranked, 87 separate steps I take to optimize your website, and 48 separates steps to make sure you're listed in 240 directories."

      Of course, change the figures (guess, if you like), and the services you offer.
      I do it for one reason, to make it sound like far more work than they would ever want to take on themselves....and it really sounds like they are getting their money's worth.

      Don't underestimate that idea. It builds value, and makes it impossible to shop. And no, I don't list the steps. If they ask (which they never do), I would just say that you have bought expensive software to do some of it, and the rest has to be done my hand.

      That doesn't precisely answer the question, but they won't ask it again.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    Dammit! That's a great point Misterme.
    Oh I think you're being sarcastic?

    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    Based on what I know, they're probably spending 40-50k/mo.
    Well, if you're doing recon then that takes care of qualifying for budget.

    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    I did a free consultation with him and he said come back with your best ideas and a proposal.

    So at that point, I should have asked "If I can show you how to sell more used cars how much would you be willing to invest". Is that a good way to ask?
    Nuh.

    That sounds like if he gives you a number you're going to take advantage of him.

    Besides, he'll lowball you. When you return you sell him on your value and then give him a number.

    I don't even see why anything should be said at that point. He invited you back to present.

    What you want to do is simply avoid giving out free ideas he'll take elsewhere or try to do himself.

    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    I'm going to recommend they move the money out of the 8 billboards they're doing and into this strategy.
    Not only what Claude said about this being someone's baby (maybe his wife?) but you don't remove marketing, you add to it. If he stops doing what's bringing business in you'll hurt him. It's against his best interests to stop right now for something untried. If and when your stuff excels over the billboards, that's when you can recommend stopping them.

    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    Basically what I'm recommending is using a hyper targeted lead gen display ad to drive traffic to an optin where they prequalify and then to a simple one page used car site with all their inventory and a "quality assurance" and testimonial video. Plus autoresponder emails of course.
    To hell with the autoresponders. Car sales happen in about a three day to three week window. You got to get the customer into the dealership fast. Their potential customers are likely already shopping the competition's web sites. You need more than that.

    You need a hook to bring them in.

    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    I hope the internet manager likes it because he's probably the main other guy.
    You might need him on your side. He makes money when it's an internet lead that comes in and buys. Is he going to take the reins? Show him how he's going to bring in more foot traffic to the dealership. But if this is a situation the dealership won't pay commissions to him for then he may be against it. Find out which end is up.

    Also confer with Aaron Doud. He's in vehicle sales.

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Misterme is about the best there is here.
    You're very kind.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      Oh I think you're being sarcastic?
      No. It was something I never thought about.

      What you want to do is simply avoid giving out free ideas he'll take elsewhere or try to do himself.
      I think he's pretty shrewd and a long term thinker. He knows I would be a good asset to have on his team and if he does business with me, he's going to get a lot more of those good strategies and insights. If he doesn't, he already knows I'm meeting with his competition. That doesn't mean he's going to get an exclusive but I'm sure he knows if I'm helping his competition and not him, its going to hurt him.

      When I gave him the free consultation I gave him tons of strategies and ideas he could take to the bank. Then he said, "well ya know I could just take this stuff and have my guys work on it but that wouldn't be fair." Of course the problem with that is as you know there are so many nuances to this stuff that you need to get right or it doesn't work that well. I made sure that he was aware of that. But the guy is a total straight shooter and he's got a 30 year reputation as one of only two dealers in the area to prove it.

      Not only what Claude said about this being someone's baby (maybe his wife?) but you don't remove marketing, you add to it. If he stops doing what's bringing business in you'll hurt him. It's against his best interests to stop right now for something untried. If and when your stuff excels over the billboards, that's when you can recommend stopping them.
      He already admitted they don't know how effective they are. I'm going to give them something they can actually track.
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Being late to the party, it occurred to me that
        if your prospect is asking you the price,
        it depends on what's happened to cause it.

        Has he mentally checked out
        of your presentation and is
        using this to bring the discussion to a close.

        If this is the case, he has figured you out and
        have no real value to him.

        Therefore you have to bring him back into
        the idea that you've got the best deal,
        only you have it and you are the prize.

        If you feel you have gotten that power,
        then you next add some other layers of
        intrigue and status seeing if he qualifies,
        adding time control and little pull-backs
        to show you are not needy.

        In fact you should be going in with your agenda,
        your timing of fees.

        You be the boss.

        Best,
        Ewen
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