"You're going to think I'm a jerk after reading this post..."

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Hey,

You probably won't like me after today's post.

Here's why:

I have a no lying policy with my kids.

Before you applaud me, let me explain...

That means that we never told them Santa Claus brought
presents at Christmas.

We taught them that Christmas day is the day the world
chooses to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.

Our thoughful gifts to them and others are an expression
of what we believe Jesus would want us to do.

The no lying policy also includes no Easter Bunny at Easter.

We taught them that Easter symbolizes the death and
resurrection of Jesus Christ.

When my oldest son went to have his tonsils removed and
the doctor reassured him it wouldn't hurt, I politely interrupted
the doctor and told my son that it would hurt.

When it was time to try out for the basketball team I told my
son that he might make the team, but I didn't think he was
good enough yet to play alot of minutes.

He'd never played basketball before.

Now those are just the times I can recall off the top of my
head. I'm sure there are hundreds more.

And all of those quiet conversations I've had with them all
played out just how I said they would.

So much in fact that now when my sons (9 & 11 yrs old) need
to know the truth about something, they dismiss everybody
else and come seek me out and ask me to give it to them
raw and uncut.

If I try to sugarcoat it, they'll call me on it and tell me to give
it to them straight.

I'm always respectful and polite, but I'm always honest.

100% honest.

And not in kid's terms.

In adult terms.

So here's why I'm telling you this:

There are alot of products and courses that are being billed
as the answer to all your offline problems.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

- Lead scraping software is not the answer.
- Auto dialing software is not the answer.
- A magical cold-calling script is not the answer.
- Backlinking software is not the answer.
- More wordpress themes are not the answer.
- A salesletter is not the answer.
- The marketing courses I sell are not the answer alone.

The answer is using all of the above (plus a few more) in a
coherent, strategically designed way in order to create a
succesful consulting business.

So, beware products, courses and training that promises
to be the one thing that will solve all your problems.

A successful offline consulting business is like a well
conducted orchestra comprised of many moving parts.

It takes everything I mentioned and more to make it all
run smoothly.

And that's the real truth.

See you at the top,

Chris
#consultant plr #marketing consultant #offline plr
  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Chris; You have a gift for getting your ideas across.

    Same with me. I always talked to my son as an adult.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I lied to my children and let them believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. For a few short years, it was magical. They loved the fantasy, as did I when I was a child. None of us are horribly emotionally scarred from the deception.

    As for business, I agree that 100% honesty is the way to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lee M
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I lied to my children and let them believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. For a few short years, it was magical. They loved the fantasy, as did I when I was a child. None of us are horribly emotionally scarred from the deception.

      As for business, I agree that 100% honesty is the way to go.
      Very well said ... it was a "magical" time for my two girls too!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    Nope, not a jerk at all Chris! Just a trusted warrior with integrity who obviously loves his family! :-)

    God bless you,

    Steve
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    Yawn. Zzzzzz
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by warcher View Post

      Yawn. Zzzzzz
      What's your point?

      Why did you bring up a post from a year ago?

      I was excited about the possibility of a new post from him, until I read the beginning of the content and remembered it.

      I personally miss posts from Chris as he was a no-nonsense, knowledgeable contributor.

      We even had him in a group for a short while and I spoke with him.

      Too bad he has moved on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
        Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

        What's your point?

        Why did you bring up a post from a year ago?

        I was excited about the possibility of a new post from him, until I read the beginning of the content and remembered it.

        I personally miss posts from Chris as he was a no-nonsense, knowledgeable contributor.

        We even had him in a group for a short while and I spoke with him.

        Too bad he has moved on.
        Jason,

        It's just part of the forum games that go on here.

        I don't bother with most of it. I used to enjoy Chris's
        posts as well. He is missed.
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    I wanted my kids to know that I was the one who loved them enough to give them gifts, not some stranger who secretly visits once a year.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      I wanted my kids to know that I was the one who loved them enough to give them gifts, not some stranger who secretly visits once a year.

      And, if I would have ever bought gifts for my son and grandkids....I would have wanted them to know they were from me as well.

      I miss Chris too. He was a real contributor.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      I wanted my kids to know that I was the one who loved them enough to give them gifts, not some stranger who secretly visits once a year.
      Me too. We did let them believe in Santa for a few years, but put an emphasis on Jesus Christ as being the "reason for the season".

      I began to have a major problem with it after awhile not "just" because of the deception, but also because we had a few years when we didn't have a lot to spend and I didn't want my kids to feel as though they'd done something to make Santa angry when it was just that we were broke.

      I see this happen a lot now, too. Most rich kids get whatever they want, even though they may be complete brats, while those with less, some of whom are really good kids, go without or with much less. I think that's a ridiculous thing to lay on a kid's self esteem. They may be a model child and get dogged by a mythical "Santa".

      I like Chris' post a lot. Honesty is the best policy.
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  • Profile picture of the author eccj
    I'll say this... it is easier with boys than it is girls, at least for us men....
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  • Profile picture of the author sdshna
    Chris, I really appreciate you. I also don't lie to my kids. And 100% honest also in my business. If I have to face loss for that, I have no problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Sounds to me like your 100% honesty policy is based on what you honestly believe not on scientific facts.
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    • Profile picture of the author eccj
      Originally Posted by DWaters View Post

      Sounds to me like your 100% honesty policy is based on what you honestly believe not on scientific facts.
      Then you obviously do not know what science is. Maybe some of what he said isn't based off empiricism but science has nothing to with anything he said.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by eccj View Post

        Then you obviously do not know what science is. Maybe some of what he said isn't based off empiricism but science has nothing to with anything he said.
        I have to agree. I'm an atheist, but he was being honest with his kids. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.
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      • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
        I wonder how many of the posters vote. If honesty was the best policy, we wouldn't have any elected officials. Hence, if you voted, your belief in honesty quotient is very low.

        One of the candidates for the 2016 US presidency has declared she is the champion of the little guy. IMHO, I think this forum needs a champion for the honest guy/gal. Since Chris is no longer here, or so it seems, I think we need to get a council of honest guys/gals to present several candidates to this forum for election as champion.

        On the other hand we can treat honesty like we treat truth. Truth is what I, meaning the individual, say it is. Period.

        Honesty is no different. Honest, it isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author CageyVet
    I will not get into the whole Santa or honesty is the best policy debate since there is no real winning side to either.

    But it does strike me as quite funny that someone that has a post all about honesty has a signature link pointing to a "Done For You E-Book Set" where you...and I quote "In less than 15 minutes, you’ll be able to insert your name and contact details in one of these books and position yourself as the go-to marketing authority for your target market."

    So an entire post about honesty but is selling a system that is completely opposite of that..."This is your chance to become a instant author of a real book "....

    The second best part is this quote in the post "There are alot of products and courses that are being billed as the answer to all your offline problems." and this quote in on the sales page "But I’ve created a easy solution for those problems."

    So is the entire post just sales material or is it just ok to tell the truth to kids but lie to adults?
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    • Profile picture of the author dmaster555
      Originally Posted by CageyVet View Post

      I will not get into the whole Santa or honesty is the best policy debate since there is no real winning side to either.

      But it does strike me as quite funny that someone that has a post all about honesty has a signature link pointing to a "Done For You E-Book Set" where you...and I quote "In less than 15 minutes, you'll be able to insert your name and contact details in one of these books and position yourself as the go-to marketing authority for your target market."

      So an entire post about honesty but is selling a system that is completely opposite of that..."This is your chance to become a instant author of a real book "....

      The second best part is this quote in the post "There are alot of products and courses that are being billed as the answer to all your offline problems." and this quote in on the sales page "But I've created a easy solution for those problems."

      So is the entire post just sales material or is it just ok to tell the truth to kids but lie to adults?
      It's the usual guy on an internet marketing forum trying to make a buck. No secret here.
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