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I Am Trying To Get Some Software Made, But Keep Getting Knocked Back On Freelancer?

by tagiscom
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Hi,

l decided to hire the best programmer on Freelance, to create an app that would allow me and others to sell any product on Facebooks fan page.

Unfortunately it is like pulling teeth to get some feedback as to why one person and possibly other won't touch the project?

Initially l thought it was because l offered $300, and 3 days? Then tried again, by scaling down the extras, and making it for 7 days, but still no go?

Since they just seem to press the reject button, rather than offer feedback, l basically am working in the dark over, why. Best guess is because the project is too complex, and they are afraid, that it might tarnish their high record, etc. Or l need to offer a bigger cash incentive?

Some feedback, would be greatly appreciated!

Shane.

P.S. my best guess is that l need to learn the programming language to add the bells and whistles to get around this, Or go for easier projects, that won't get knocked back?
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  • Profile picture of the author webpeon
    can you post details of the project or link us to the original freelance page..
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  • Profile picture of the author lamzoR
    Hello,

    If you are still looking for a programmer please let me know. I can set you up a Facebook "SHOP" in 2 days if it's needed.

    Please add me to skype: tha.leet
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

    Hi,

    l decided to hire the best programmer on Freelance, to create an app that would allow me and others to sell any product on Facebooks fan page.

    Unfortunately it is like pulling teeth to get some feedback as to why one person and possibly other won't touch the project?

    Initially l thought it was because l offered $300, and 3 days? Then tried again, by scaling down the extras, and making it for 7 days, but still no go?

    Since they just seem to press the reject button, rather than offer feedback, l basically am working in the dark over, why. Best guess is because the project is too complex, and they are afraid, that it might tarnish their high record, etc. Or l need to offer a bigger cash incentive?

    Some feedback, would be greatly appreciated!

    Shane.

    P.S. my best guess is that l need to learn the programming language to add the bells and whistles to get around this, Or go for easier projects, that won't get knocked back?
    You don't need to post in bold, it's annoying.

    Complexity of the project isn't an issue - it's the amount of money you're offering in relation to the complexity. Why don't you offer $3,000 and 14 days and see what kind of response you get?

    Or maybe you want 'the best', but don't really want to pay for the best?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hi lamzoR, my submission is a bit of a mess at the moment, as l also got feedback from another forum about this.

      I can pm you with the rough version if you like, so you can give me some ideas as to what l should remove to keep it within my spending limits, etc.

      Unless l hear from you, l will clean things up a bit and pm you with it, so you can offer some suggestions.


      webpeon, l will pm you when l have cleaned it up a bit, as l don't particularly want to tell the whole world about my project! As it will become a WSO, eventually!

      You don't need to post in bold, it's annoying.

      Complexity of the project isn't an issue - it's the amount of money you're offering in relation to the complexity. Why don't you offer $3,000 and 14 days and see what kind of response you get?

      Or maybe you want 'the best', but don't really want to pay for the best?
      Hi Steve, when l cut and pasted this from my word file, that's how it came out?

      And you may be right about the amount, but $300 is my limit, so l may have to scale back on some of the extras.

      And l do want the best or someone that is reliable, (l have heard a few horror stores about freelancers) but you can hire a top notch programmer for $13 hour if you know where to look!

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        $300 is my limit
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        l do want the best
        If both of the above quotes are true, then I hope you only have about 1 day worth of work for your programmer... because the "best" programmers easily make that amount (or more) per day.

        If you truly want (or even need) the "best", then save up until you can afford them.

        That said, you can get "pretty good" programmers far cheaper than what the "best" will cost you. But $300 isn't much, even for a "pretty good" programmer. So if your project requires more than a couple days worth of work, then you may need to adjust your expectations somewhat.

        Or, you could just learn to program yourself.

        PS- I just noticed that you said your "submission is a bit of a mess". That could be another reason that you aren't getting any bids on your project. If a freelancer doesn't fully understand it, they aren't going to bid on it (the smart ones, at least). Make sure your project description is very detailed, and very clear & easy to understand. A good rule of thumb is... if you can drink a 6 pack of beer, and then read your project description, and it still makes perfect sense to you, then it's a good project description.
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  • Profile picture of the author wayfarer
    If you're afraid the project might be too complex, and at the same time you're only offering $300, I can practically guarantee you this extremely low project budget is culprit.

    Even in the third world, $300 is not much money any more, especially for qualified people who know what they're worth. Let's say you pay someone only $10 an hour, you have to expect that the whole project will take less than 30 hours for it to stay on budget. I consider 30 hours to be an extremely small time project. Usually only beginners or students jump on projects of these types, and you don't want to be hiring beginners. Sometimes you'll get lucky, but not often.

    The only way you're going to ever hire a top notch programmer for $13 an hour is if you are an excellent project manager with a background in technology projects. Everyone else seems to fail when they try to be cheap. I mean EVERYONE. I've never seen someone who is not a project manager or programmer themselves be able to successfully hire programmers for less than $30 an hour.

    When you hire someone, you should not just consider their raw programming ability. Other qualities matter just as much if not more, like their communication ability, their ability to make decisions about unexpected project difficulties that arise, and the ability to present a project to you, walk you through it so you understand how it works, how to use it. These qualities are very hard to measure, but you can "feel them out" if you hire someone that is from your own culture.

    I recommend you hire someone from Australia or New Zealand, since that's the part of the world you're from. Trust me, you'll thank me later. There are probably regions of these countries that are less expensive than where you reside. You may need to double or triple your budget, but at least you won't end up with a garbage product.
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  • Profile picture of the author wayfarer
    Of course, I could be way off base also. It really depends on how complex the project really is. But if a developer is really busy already, small projects just aren't worth it. So it's hard to say without knowing more.

    Do you mind posting more technical details about it? We're pretty much just fishing here without knowing what it's really about.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hello,

      If you are still looking for a programmer please let me know. I can set you up a Facebook "SHOP" in 2 days if it's needed.

      Please add me to skype: tha.leet
      Skyped you!

      Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author IMVIKING
    it sounds weird since I got my software done in 3 days and for a great price!
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  • Profile picture of the author System Wide Solutions
    Freelancer.com is full of scam. Use elance or Odesk.com
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