What Programming Skills Would Be Needed?

11 years ago

lynda.com is a great site, I have learned everything from them. You'll need the programming skills like PHP which involves database. Try to find if a programmer is capable of handling database site. Obviously HTML ans CSS skills should be good.

This is a membership site, it should take around 1-2 months to get it ready.

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JDSalinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by rajeevrla

lynda.com is a great site, I have learned everything from them. You'll need the programming skills like PHP which involves database. Try to find if a programmer is capable of handling database site. Obviously HTML ans CSS skills should be good.

This is a membership site, it should take around 1-2 months to get it ready.

Thanks rajeevrla for the quick response. The WarriorForum is the best.

Ok, so I should look for someone who has skills in PHP, HTML, and CSS. Anything else, you think?

Also, any idea how much something like that would cost in terms of price to put together?

Since you are familar with the site, do you see anything tricky about its programming setup that I should know about and tell the programmer? For example, I really like how they have put together the features where you can watch some videos for free as a teaser and then login to see the others? Is this hard for programmers to put together or is this pretty standard? What about close captioning? Pretty basic or a challenge?

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rajeevrla

11 years ago

lynda.com is a highly recognized site and it has a lot of features as you have pointed out already. Developer must have good experience with ecommerce site, Jquery knowledge would be an advantage.

The developer can add the functionality to offer free videos as a teaser and the Close Captioning. I won't say these are basic, yes they need good skills so you must see the similar work that has been done by him. Cost shouldn't be less than $5,000.

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Brandon Tanner

11 years ago

If you have a site like that coded from scratch, you're talking some serious coin. The front-end would be relatively easy, but there would be a TON of back-end coding involved for a site like that. I guarantee you that the development costs for Lynda.com far exceeded 5 G's!

A far more cost-effective solution would be to look for an existing video sharing / membership script that you can buy and have modified to suit your needs. If you go that route, you'd still need to find a developer who was skilled in (at a minimum) HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, and MySQL, in order for him to be able to make all of the necessary changes.

And that doesn't even factor in the video production costs, which would not be cheap if you want quality work.

There's no way for anyone here to give you a very meaningful estimate of what a project like that would cost though, unless we knew a LOT more about the specifics of the project (ie we would need to see a very detailed project description, which breaks down every single feature of every part the site). Also, the cost would of course greatly depending on the developer who you hire (their competence / skill level / reputation).

I love video tutorial sites though... I think it would probably be a great business model, if done right.

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JDSalinger

11 years ago

Thanks for the response Brandon. I have a few questions below for you if you don't mind.

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

If you have a site like that coded from scratch, you're talking some serious coin. The front-end would be relatively easy, but there would be a TON of back-end coding involved for a site like that. I guarantee you that the development costs for Lynda.com far exceeded 5 G's!

What type of things would you consider back end coding here? Also, what be considered simply front end coding in this example?

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

A far more cost-effective solution would be to look for an existing video sharing / membership script that you can buy and have modified to suit your needs. If you go that route, you'd still need to find a developer who was skilled in (at a minimum) HTML, CSS, Javascript, PHP, and MySQL, in order for him to be able to make all of the necessary changes.

Thanks for this suggestion. I will have to look into it. Where would one go to find something like this? What would you expect to pay for something like this? How could you tell if it was good work or not? Unfortunately, I am still a newbie for programming so can't tell by looking at it.

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

And that doesn't even factor in the video production costs, which would not be cheap if you want quality work.

What specifically are you talking about here? Are we still talking programming or are you talking about the cost to actually create the videos themselves like the filming, hiring the talent, etc.?

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

There's no way for anyone here to give you a very meaningful estimate of what a project like that would cost though, unless we knew a LOT more about the specifics of the project (ie we would need to see a very detailed project description, which breaks down every single feature of every part the site). Also, the cost would of course greatly depending on the developer who you hire (their competence / skill level / reputation).

I think I am basically trying to figure out what exactly I need for the project description. The stuff I listed before are the main things I believe I need to get started. I recognize that I can always add in some stuff later. I hope to be at a point where I can do some of the smaller stuff myself. But at this point, I am hoping you guys can help me out with filling in some of the details for what should be in the project description and what I should be looking for in terms of a good programmer and expectations for price/duration.

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

I love video tutorial sites though... I think it would probably be a great business model, if done right.

I like them too. I think video is a great way to learn things.

Thanks again for your help here. Let it never be said that the Warrior Forum does not deliver.

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Brandon Tanner

11 years ago

Originally Posted by JDSalinger

What type of things would you consider back end coding here? Also, what be considered simply front end coding in this example?

The "front-end" is the design part of the website (HTML, CSS, etc). The "back-end" is basically the "brains" behind it all, and is what makes it all work (PHP code, database, etc.)

Originally Posted by JDSalinger

Thanks for this suggestion. I will have to look into it. Where would one go to find something like this? What would you expect to pay for something like this? How could you tell if it was good work or not? Unfortunately, I am still a newbie for programming so can't tell by looking at it.

Google "membership site script" or "video sharing script". Honestly though... a membership site script would probably get you closest to what you're trying to achieve... because you want (paying) members who you serve videos to. A "video sharing" script would be like a YouTube clone.

Membership site scripts can vary quite a bit in cost... depending on the features you need, a decent script can cost anywhere from @ $100, to several times that. It just depends on what all you need. I can't recommend any one in particular, as I've always "rolled my own" whenever I've needed that type of functionality. But I've seen lots of membership scripts reviewed here at the WF over the years, so you might want to do a search for "membership script" threads.

Originally Posted by JDSalinger

What specifically are you talking about here? Are we still talking programming or are you talking about the cost to actually create the videos themselves like the filming, hiring the talent, etc.?

Talking about the cost to create the actual videos here (hiring video talent). If your videos are going to be of the "screen capture" type (like on Lynda.com), then getting those type of videos produced shouldn't be quite as expensive as videos that require a video camera. But either way, you're going to want good "teachers" who know their subject in and out (if you want a quality product)... and that type of talent usually doesn't come cheap.

Originally Posted by JDSalinger

I think I am basically trying to figure out what exactly I need for the project description.

Go to Lynda.com and click on all of the links on the home page (there's LOTS of links near the bottom of the page!), and make a detailed list of everything you want. Then get a 1 month membership, so that you have access to all of the features that the members get, and make a detailed list of everything you have access to there as well.

Hope that helps!

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JDSalinger

11 years ago

What does everyone else think? Do you agree with rajeevrla's advice (it looks good to me) or would you recommend I add in something else?

What other things should I be thinking about?

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wayfarer

11 years ago

If you wanted to know what Lynda is actually built with, it's ASP.NET. I can tell from the response headers. Probably a C# job, something that enterprising would never use VB.

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JDSalinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by wayfarer

If you wanted to know what Lynda is actually built with, it's ASP.NET. I can tell from the response headers. Probably a C# job, something that enterprising would never use VB.

Thank you for the detective work. I am not trying to create a site exactly like it, but do like the functionality that the site offers and would like to build something similar in terms of this functionality. Do you think I should still be looking at php programming and the like or do you feel that would be a mistake? Basically, what would you do if you were me?

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wayfarer

11 years ago

Originally Posted by JDSalinger

Thank you for the detective work. I am not trying to create a site exactly like it, but do like the functionality that the site offers and would like to build something similar in terms of this functionality. Do you think I should still be looking at php programming and the like or do you feel that would be a mistake? Basically, what would you do if you were me?

If you were going to build it from scratch, without adding onto an existing framework, I would prefer to use more enterprise level technology. PHP is ok for smaller stuff (yes, I know it runs Facebook and Wikipedia), but for medium-large projects I prefer Python with Django. There's a lot of stuff that would work though, from Java to Ruby on Rails or even ASP.NET.

Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner

If you have a site like that coded from scratch, you're talking some serious coin. The front-end would be relatively easy, but there would be a TON of back-end coding involved for a site like that. I guarantee you that the development costs for Lynda.com far exceeded 5 G's!

That's true, it's pretty easy to spend 5 grand. Even 10 or 15 grand is easy. I've seen a $25k project from the early 2000's that has way less features than you probably want. Technology has improved a lot since then though. You can get a lot more bang for the buck these days, but to get something good it still takes time.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lynda has spent a million dollars on their site. Of course, that includes revenue being reinvested in the site and all of the maintenance. They probably have venture capital.

You could always go to angel.co and look for an investor. Starting small could work too though.

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lite_ws 11 years ago

It's easy to know what technologies and framework are using to built a website:

just check it with the website called : builtwith.com

Like Wayfarer said Lynda is made with the ASP.NET Framwork, for that you need the software Visual Studio (450$) and the database is not Mysql.
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wordpressmania

11 years ago

PHP is the latest programming language and easy to learn ( it is open sours ). So I will tell you to learn PHP and MySQL... then you can go for WordPress... I assume you are trying to learn web development.. so HTML and CSS is a must for you

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JDSalinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by wordpressmania

PHP is the latest programming language and easy to learn ( it is open sours ). So I will tell you to learn PHP and MySQL... then you can go for WordPress... I assume you are trying to learn web development.. so HTML and CSS is a must for you

Hope this helps.

Yes, that is the path I have been following and so I think it is good advice. For this project though, it will probably take me at least a couple of years to where I can get to a point to do the same level of work. But it is always good to hear I am on the right track. Thank you.

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rankingconsult

11 years ago

"just check it with the website called : builtwith.com "

Nice one, Not heard of that before.

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rising_sun

Banned 11 years ago

Use php with mysql combination ,
or asp.net with c#,
but mind it you need a huge space to store video.

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janecristy

11 years ago

I have visited lynda.com it has informative and useful tutorials for php css and other languages...W3schools is also good for learning php and other programming languages....positively....

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edbarnes

11 years ago

For building such websites, You will need HTML, Javascript, PHP or ASP.NET, MySQL or any other database, and maybe AJAX . If you are just starting, I recommend learning HTML and Javascript, You'll probably find your own path after that

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doyle20

11 years ago

If you want to learn programming just to create a website like that, You better not waste your time and hire someone else to do It

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Chuck Dimon

11 years ago

Backend: Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP (or Ruby, Python, Perl)
Frontend: HTML, CSS, Javascript

The initial development of the site is only the first step on a very long road. Maintenance will quickly make your initial investment seem quite small.

Hosting video's consumes a huge amount of bandwidth and CPU. Your going to need at the very least 1 VPS or dedicated server to get started.

Good Luck to you. Hope you can make it happen.

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ababuobana

11 years ago

Creating such website needs knowledge of HTML, CSS, Javascript, AJAX, PHP and MySQL . I think You can hire someone to do It for $500-$1000 in 2-3 weeks in freelancer.com

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edward20

11 years ago

You must learn web programming . Many languages are involved with this, like HTML, Javascript and PHP

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Dan Grossman

11 years ago

Home - PHP & MySQL: Novice to Ninja, 5th Edition

This book will take you from zero programming knowledge to everything you need to custom program your own membership site.

I read the first edition 11 years ago; it's been rewritten 4 times since then to stay up-to-date.

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css4me

11 years ago

You need to have basic html and css knowledge, that is required for photoshop slicing and for right functioning you need to have knowledge of PHP. that is a open source, also you need to have data base knowledge fro connectivity, if you don't want to make your website in core PHP you can also take advantage from amazing and dazzling CMS available, like joomla, wordpress etc. Or in any case you want to outsource the designing and development you can have a chat with the prestigious companies available like Css4me[dot]com

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TheApex

11 years ago

If you want to make your own site, you could try to learn PHP or ASP.NET for the scripting/accounts part and html/css/jquery for design. But this takes time...

However, you can try creating that site using wordpress/drupal/joomla, and just edit the design - it's easier if you don't have experience in web development.

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TheAlexander

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Rahat

Hi,
Accoirding to me in order to understand this site you should have the knowledge of the following languages:
PHP, HTML, CSS, ASP.NET .

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You should have the knowledge of either PHP or ASP.NET. They don't work hand in hand, just separate. Also, add JavaScript and jQuery.

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FirstSocialApps

11 years ago

No offense .. but if you have to ask .. your very very far from even starting. I would start with learning some basic HTML / PHP / MYSQL / Javascript / JQuery .. do some simple scripts and work your way up.

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FirstSocialApps

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackberryparts

Not only for this site but for designing any website the programming language needed are PHP, JAVA,.NET and HTML. By using these four language you can design any type of site.

HTML is NOT a programming language.

JAVA is not really needed or common for site design.

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FirstSocialApps 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Maja00

The use of Php and MySql up to CMS creation is required for such site construction.

Oh so you cant make a site in ASP and MSSQL .. really people if you dont know what your talking about .. .say nothing .. its better for everyone.
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rasynomarlo

11 years ago

Well, as such it is unpredictable to say that what are the techniques that have been used in Lynda.com, because that site has involved too much of developing skills and great designing and hence it cannot be said surely that the site has been developed using PHP. I guess just being an open source language is not only the reason that it would be used in that website.

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mayron56

8 years ago

If I am trying to start my online system using HTML or PHP? I signed up for a program called 12 Minute Payday and I recieved the PDF information on what to do, but I don't know what to do, can some one help me out?

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Joe Ray

8 years ago

If you are inspired to learn web development, you should definitely learn it; but only if you are really interested in it and truly motivated. Then, you will be able to learn it in about a year and it will be a lot of fun.

Otherwise, if you want to learn programming just to build one site like lynda.com so you don't have to pay for development, you will have a hard time learning this stuff.

Web development, especially backend programming is definitely a learning curve but it's worth it. I recommend learning it.

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