Which Linux do you prefer, and why?

11 years ago

CentOS for server as it is rock stable. Ubuntu is fine too, but for me it is better as desktop version. OpenSUSE have latest features in Linux world.

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mojojuju

11 years ago

I like Mint for a desktop OS, Debian (shame on you for not mentioning it) for a server OS.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mojojuju

I like Mint for a desktop OS, Debian (shame on you for not mentioning it) for a server OS.

I ALMOST mentioned it, but it seems to be referred to more as a basis for others than anything else. I didn't mention BSD or AT&T UNIX either.

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mojojuju

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I ALMOST mentioned it, but it seems to be referred to more as a basis for others than anything else.

It's true that it is the upstream base for many distributions (e.g. Ubuntu), but it's still a great solid OS on it's own.

Originally Posted by seasoned

I didn't mention BSD or AT&T UNIX either.

And you shouldn't because BSD and UNIX aren't Linux. If you would have included them, you might as well have included OSX too!

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mojojuju

It's true that it is the upstream base for many distributions (e.g. Ubuntu), but it's still a great solid OS on it's own.

And you shouldn't because BSD and UNIX aren't Linux. If you would have included them, you might as well have included OSX too!

Well, Linus realized that making an OS merely similar to UNIX was a bit too difficult, so he started making it more transparent. I read an article written by him where he said he realized this when he tried to compile Xwindows.

SO, Linux has ended up being effectively a type of UNIX rather than a system merely made to look like one to people. It is FAR easier to make a simple POSIX compatible OS, like he originally planned, where the character tools are the same, than it is to make the interface the tools use look more like UNIX so something like Xwindows works. They have the same sort of problem with WINE. Earlier, it tried to be compatible on the basic API level, and now it tries to actually look more like the hardware.

Had I added AT&T and BSD, I would have said linux/unix variants. As for OSX? I don't want to go there, not that I would go to AT&T or BSD either, but I would be FAR more likely to go with AT&T or BSD. AT&T USED to be THE UNIX. Berkeley changed that with BSD, and came out with a competitor to Linux. I haven't heard too much of it lately though. BOTH main projects are apparently still active though!

Yeah, I know debian is good on its own. It just doesn't seem to be that popular.

When I started, I used LINUS' own version. Utilities were GNU. Then redhat came along, and many others. Well, about a decade ago, I kind of moved away from having it on my laptop, and have been thinking about settling into one.

It would be nice if it were popular. Since last sunday, I have installed VMs for Ubuntu, Fedora, Opensuse, Centos and Mint.

Mint has a crash when it boots, so I don't know if it can handle a VM(v7).

Centos installed weird, and I actually had to basically lose 4GB to fix it. So I guess it has VM problems also. Supposedly, the weird problem was due to the easy install on VMware, and I had to tell it centos was ubuntu. Admittedly, I AM using V7(I believe the latest version is V9) of VMware.

I don't know which one I'll pick, or even if it matters much. They ALL appeared to upgrade well although I did NOT like the fact that the ubuntu v11 that I had out there earlier couldn't simply be upgraded. Centos didn't have that problem. I already upgraded the centos kernel. I updated software on ALL of them.

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nightstorm

11 years ago

Linux is just the kernel the OS is actually GNU OS from the Free Software Foundation

I am a big Gentoo fan, however, don't always have the time.

My second choice is the easy to set up Mint. Really impressed with Mint 13 the new device manger is great.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nightstorm

Linux is just the kernel the OS is actually GNU OS from the Free Software Foundation

I am a big Gentoo fan, however, don't always have the time.

My second choice is the easy to set up Mint. Really impressed with Mint 13 the new device manger is great.

Yeah, think we all know that. Maybe Linux DISTRO would have been more precise. SOME changes may be made though, and there is the COLLECTION, update package routine, and directory layout. With HUNDREDS of parts, there IS a lot of room for differences.

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nightstorm

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Yeah, think we all know that.

Most people that I talk to at groups surprisingly don't, I think it's mainly due to bad journalism and misuse of terminology. But I agree a operating system is the sum of parts but the use of "Linux" can be misleading. A distro takes this further.

Virtualization

I have had weird booting issues caused by some filing systems (ext4 I think cant actually remember off the top of my head) with Ubuntu and Mint (Ubuntu) under virtualbox. Changing filing system as often got around this. But not had time to look into it to find out the real cause.

On a side note ... BSD

I actually prefer BSD disros solid as a rock despite the lack of hardware compatibility. This is why I use Gentoo it borrows some great features from FreeBSD such as ports whist being more practical, that is, compatible with my hardware and GNU/Linux.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nightstorm

Most people that I talk to at groups surprisingly don't, I think it's mainly due to bad journalism and misuse of terminology. But I agree a operating system is the sum of parts but the use of "Linux" can be misleading. A distro takes this further.

Virtualization

I have had weird booting issues caused by some filing systems (ext4 I think cant actually remember off the top of my head) with Ubuntu and Mint (Ubuntu) under virtualbox. Changing filing system as often got around this. But not had time to look into it to find out the real cause.

On a side note ... BSD

I actually prefer BSD disros solid as a rock despite the lack of hardware compatibility. This is why I use Gentoo it borrows some great features from FreeBSD such as ports whist being more practical, that is, compatible with my hardware and GNU/Linux.

The upgrade failing with ubuntu was documented on their site, and had nothing to do with VMware. In this day and age, and even during V11(the version I couldn't simply upgrade), upgrading the kernel should have been easier. The 4GB was lost because the disk had *****NO***** kernel on it! what they did was create ANOTHER disk, of 4GB, put the kernel on IT, and mounted it on /boot. Apparently, there is no way to expand it, or create another. I could be wrong there, but I didn't know VMware to such a level.

So I unmounted it, made a /boot2 directory, mounted it there, created a new boot directory, copied boot2 to boot, upgraded, and rebooted with the new kernel. It was a waste AND, if that is required, I guess it should be closer to 10GB. Then again, maybe I somehow misread it and it was 4MB. THAT seems more reasonable for a kernel. Still, there should be room for AT LEAST say THREE on the disk. One for the current, one for the update, and one t allow for growth and just in case.

Again, I didn't check to see what ALL was there. The kernels weren't the only thing. Last I knew, the kernel was rather small, by today's standards. But differences in libraries, and having xwindows, I guess could complicate things.

Steve

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nightstorm

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nightstorm

Virtualization

I have had weird booting issues caused by some filing systems (ext4 I think cant actually remember off the top of my head) with Ubuntu and Mint (Ubuntu) under virtualbox. Changing filing system as often got around this. But not had time to look into it to find out the real cause.

I remember now, in my case was an Ext4 bug caused by host I/O cache enabled on the VM.

Notice no votes for Arch..

I used to like Arch but found issues will some of the packages in the way that they were put together so found myself tarballing and compiling a lot.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nightstorm

I remember now, in my case was an Ext4 bug caused by host I/O cache enabled on the VM.

Notice no votes for Arch..

I used to like Arch but found issues will some of the packages in the way that they were put together so found myself tarballing and compiling a lot.

Yeah, redhat(commercial) and suse didn't get any votes either!

I listed ARCH only because it is the most capable, and widely used, LINUX standard for the credit card sized to about 4"x 4" ARM based computers.

It looks like UBUNTU is basically the current winner.

The VMs, of course, are always getting better. The first VMware I used was a JOKE! Basically the environments were self contained and isolated. I am now using the LATEST v7 version, and the environments certainly have full networking. also, the indicators are better done, and it looks like THEY likely work. I think all my installs use EXT4. BTW, as I recall, the first installs, when I first got VMware, used EXT2.

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YHmuWong

11 years ago

For me,it is fedora for being user-friendly(from my perspective).Ofc as a desktop OS.

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P4tch

11 years ago

Shame on you for not mentioning Debian. Debian all the way!

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1stranked 11 years ago

I'm using CentOS 6.3 64bit and zPanel as replacement for cPanel. Works great!
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Michael71

11 years ago

Debian is my favourite

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Rennell Garrett

11 years ago

I have tried a few linux distro and in the end I settled with Ubuntu LTS versions. I don't know specific reasons but Ubuntu was more user friendly than other distros. I was able to find a good user community for Ubuntu as well. BTW I am not a big fan of Unity interface but its not a deal breaker for me.

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codefish 11 years ago

Ubuntu for desktop. Debian for server.
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Valdor Kiebach

11 years ago

I have a laptop that hates linux but it did accept 'Zorin' (sounds like a villain from James Bond) so I like that.

I also have a small netbook with Pear Linux that works great.

Then I have Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi

Centos for VPS

So my favourite Linux is any that work!

In the olden days I chose Mandrake or RedHat.

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Sickle

11 years ago

Debian is my favourite too

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ColorVila

11 years ago

I use Debian for my servers. Where there is no Debian in the list?

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resetrsx 11 years ago

I like ubuntu. I've been using it for a server for the last few years. It has a pretty large following, so it's easy to get help or find tutorials. The update repository is also updated frequently, so you can patch security problems and get newer versions of software pretty easily.
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seasoned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by ColorVila

I use Debian for my servers. Where there is no Debian in the list?

I think ALL of the "other" votes are for debian. So unbuntu still wins. This certainly isn't a scientific survey, but that is one reason why I asked for reasons.

But cut me some slack. I TRIED to cover the more popular ones, regardless of market.

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wisdomoto

11 years ago

I like ubuntu-server without desktop environment and also like the desktop version of ubuntu. I was a big fan of slackware linux back in the day

EDIT: looking at the poll results, ubuntu wins hands down

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