Need help figuring out what kind of hosting I need.

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I'm working on a marketing project that will have four websites. One will be a static authority site, one will be a squeeze page, one will be a blog, and the last one will be a membership site.

Do I need VPS hosting or a dedicated server? What is the best host to use? Say I get couple thousand users on my membership site.
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  • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
    Even shared hosting may work. (Just get a good one!)
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

      Even shared hosting may work. (Just get a good one!)
      kpmedia is right, find a good shared host, which means stay away from EIG.
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      ...Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just set there.
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      • Profile picture of the author NateJasper
        Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

        kpmedia is right, find a good shared host, which means stay away from EIG.

        What is EIG?
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        • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
          Originally Posted by NateJasper View Post

          What is EIG?
          Read the curated version of the comments about EIG here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endura..._31st_Blackout and the list of hosting companies to stay away from. If you view the page history on Wikipedia, you should be able to find some unfiltered comments and excuses that have been removed.

          Originally Posted by mutant9 View Post

          You can host it for free on Amazon Web Services (for one year), the advantage of AWS is that it can be scaled in a very easy way plus its free. I've created a couple of tutorials on how to do that: How to Host a WordPress Website on AWS for Free (Windows Server) | How to Learn
          I wouldn't consider windows hosting for a split second unless I was using a windows server-specific CMS. Nor would I recommend AWS for anything but a hobby experimental site unless I was going to hire an experienced server management company. AWS is an unmanaged raw virtual computer with endless potential security vulnerabilities.
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          ...Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just set there.
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  • Profile picture of the author WPcrew
    Shared could work, but there are cheap solid VPS's for low cost, like digitalocean (512mb ram, 20gb SSD, $5 month!). If you find promo code, you'll get 2 months for free, and it comes down to $50 first year.

    But if you don't want to mess with VPS (although library.linode.com and digitalocean.com offer great documentation, easy to follow up), you can go with shared.
    I'm using eleven2 and hawkhost, and both are pretty solid.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhinocl
    I think you got good advice about starting with shared. If you actually do get a thousand members you will probably need to move to a managed vps, so that should be budgeted into your pricing.
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  • Profile picture of the author prosecure
    well mate as a beginner shared hosting best
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffatrackaid
    If you have the technical expertise, consider cloud or VPS hosting.

    VPS/cloud hosting operations today are much more about protecting your business investment than capacity and performance issues.

    You spend all of your time building your site -- why would you risk hosting it on a server with potentially 100's or 1000's of questionable sites?

    The main benefit of VPS/cloud/dedicated is you gain a bit of control over your network neighborhood and even if it had a poor history, you can work to clean it up.

    This is even more important if you plan to do email marketing from your server directly -- bad network neighborhood or spam can sink email delivery rates.

    VPS.net, AWS and others all often affordable VPS hosting -- but you need to know how to set things up or consider using a control panel like Plesk of WHM/cPanel.
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  • Profile picture of the author MonopolyOnline
    If you are doing the development yourself go with VPS.

    If someday you do get a private server, hire ezsm.com to manage it for you. They are well worth the $99 per month to have linux experts on call. I've used them for 11 years.

    Heroku:

    If you have a developer, suggest to them Heroku.

    You could do all four apps/sites and more within one Heroku account.

    Heroku is a little more technical to setup, but if done right, Heroku hosting can be free.

    Use Mandrill (MailChimp) for you email service.
    Use Amazon Simple Storage Solutions s3 for any image uploading.
    Use Amazon Route53 for dns services
    Use HireFireApp to manage your Heroku dynos

    Once setup, Heroku will grow with you.

    I've been running a private server for 11 years.

    Now using Heroku. Happy, happy, happy.

    PM me if you have questions. I do not do custom development, so this is not a pitch for work. Just trying to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author WPcrew
    I guess he meant Endurance International Group. They posses bluehost, ipage, hostgator, take a look: The Endurance Brands | Endurance International Group.

    Lot of people don't like hostgator, and this group in particular. I heard also bad stories, even had two. 5, 6 years ago I was suspended from "unlimited" hosting, cause of bandwidth usage.
    I promoted hostgator for a 2 years as affiliate, and I can't remember if I earned $200 total. Can't count "invalid" and "pending" commissions which were cancelled at the end. And it's not just me, lot's of people had similar "problems"...
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  • Profile picture of the author r0dvan
    It all depends.
    In shared environments there are many problems because you are using shared nodes.
    If other clients get attacked so your node.
    If you go with VPS you should get a managed one, so they get the action to reroute DDoS, backups, restores and more.
    Are you planning to use Wordpress?
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    • Profile picture of the author NateJasper
      Originally Posted by r0dvan View Post

      Are you planning to use Wordpress?
      Yes I am..
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  • Profile picture of the author Iainhbb
    Hostgator will do it for you. Wordpress is one of the installs in the cpanel. Very Simple.

    Iain
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  • Profile picture of the author mutant9
    You can host it for free on Amazon Web Services (for one year), the advantage of AWS is that it can be scaled in a very easy way plus its free. I've created a couple of tutorials on how to do that: How to Host a WordPress Website on AWS for Free (Windows Server) | How to Learn
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  • Profile picture of the author huzoorbux
    Buy some cloud based hosting service I am using shared hosting since 3 years and very happy with that PowWeb and if you still want to go for VPS then use softLayer using in my company since 7 years never faced any issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Gylseth
    I would recommend using cloud hosting through well known providers like Rackspace or Fibernet. They both adhere to top level security standards, and both have a network of locations for traffic routing. You can check with them directly to see where they have physical locations, and then compare that to where your target market is located. You want to make sure that there is a server at least in the same time zone as the target audience as this will help with faster loading times.

    Cloud hosting is also very easy to scale as your traffic grows, and you decrease your chance of down time. I would encourage you to check available solutions even beyond the two I mentioned, and compare their services and pricing. One of the prices that will be important to check is how much they would charge if you go over the capacity of your subscription.
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  • Profile picture of the author dhruven
    You should start with good hosting service provider like Hostgator shared hosting plan and if you face any kind of problem related your up time and speed than you should change and transfer to VPS Hosting.
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    • Profile picture of the author w13
      Originally Posted by dhruven View Post

      You should start with good hosting service provider like Hostgator shared hosting plan and if you face any kind of problem related your up time and speed than you should change and transfer to VPS Hosting.
      I'm with you. Start from shared hosting. For a good quality with affordable price hosting provider you can check on webhosting forum. You will get all information you need about hosting.
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      • Profile picture of the author David B
        Of late I have been looking at openshift.com. They are Red hat's PAAS running on top of AWS. They offer 3 free VMS to start with which can be expanded later.

        They currently support php, Java, Tomcat, JBoss, Ruby and more
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffatrackaid
    I look at the choice of hosting as mitigating business risk. I am continually amazed at people who earn 5 figures per month from their sites but are not willing to spend $100 to assure that revenue stream does not dry up.



    Consider these risks with shared hosting:
    • Bad neighbors can cause SEO problems.
    • Bad neighbors can cause email delivery problems.
    • Bad neighbors can cause performance problems (also true with some VPS/cloud offerings)
    • You have little control over server-level security
    • You have little control over application stack (PHP/MySQL/Apache)
    • You have little control over configuration limits, updates, downtime schedule.
    • You have little control over disaster recovery operations.
    So these are the risks.

    The real questions then become:

    • How do these risk impact your business?
    • How do different hosting technologies mitigate these risk?
    • What is the cost of mitigating these risks?
    That's how I always approach hosting decisions.
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