Solid Attempt At Recovery Or Not?

by nik0 Banned
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UPDATE: Change of mind, decided to do it a bit differently (better).

Scenario:

Site with 150 links from 50 domains, mostly roll off blog posts on public blog network. No other links present. Site tanked.


Recovery attempt:

1) Public blog network adjusted using Excerpts on category / homepage level, this reduced the amount of links from 150 from 50 domains to 50 links from 50 domains (only link from post level, higher relevance as no more links on pages next to irrelevant links.

2) Setting up 5 dedicated domains, the domains are on average PR2 in strength, publishing 3 articles of 400 words each on each domain, so in total 15 articles over 5 sites, linking out from only 1 of the articles

3) Adding links from 10 domains that link out to only 5 sites per domain, only linking out from post level so that will result in 10 (somewhat) relevant page links

4) 10 Hyper relevant domains, restoring them to original state before they dropped and linking out to money site with diverse anchors.

5) Removing links on the worse setup public blog network sites.

How much chance you give it to recover with this plan?
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  • Profile picture of the author delwar2014
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    I wouldn't use press releases, I ran a backlink check on my site and those are some terrible links man. The content gets copied across several domains and will get your site penalized next time a refresh happens. I guess it depends on the quantity and quality of sources though -- what service did you use?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by CutPasteProfits View Post

      I wouldn't use press releases, I ran a backlink check on my site and those are some terrible links man. The content gets copied across several domains and will get your site penalized next time a refresh happens. I guess it depends on the quantity and quality of sources though -- what service did you use?
      Decided to remove that part indeed, not so much cause of copied content but more so cause it has close to zero SEO benefit.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweezeter
    Doing more of what didn't work last time but with a slight variation won't help. A Penguin affected domain will not recover with the strategy you laid out in your post. While I wish you the best of luck the only real strategy is fixing the crappy links you built and then waiting for the next penguin refresh.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by sweezeter View Post

      Doing more of what didn't work last time but with a slight variation won't help. A Penguin affected domain will not recover with the strategy you laid out in your post. While I wish you the best of luck the only real strategy is fixing the crappy links you built and then waiting for the next penguin refresh.
      I decided to start an extensive link removal campaign indeed, better get rid of the source of the problem before adding new juice.

      Thanks for all the responses, I edited the original post and will stick to the new plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    That plan will never work without 5 blog comments.

    What in the hell is all that about?

    How to recover a site.

    Step 01: Undo your mistakes.

    Done.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      That plan will never work without 5 blog comments.

      What in the hell is all that about?

      How to recover a site.

      Step 01: Undo your mistakes.

      Done.
      The mistake seems to be too many links on pages with a dozen or more other links.

      That mistake is fixed in step one and step five now.


      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Now your talking, get some Tweets & Likes in there.

      Follow that with a 7,000 word article & you'll be good to go!
      I decided to skip on the public links that anyone can get, not the best signals for Google to rank or recover based up on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        The mistake seems to be too many links on pages with a dozen or more other links. That mistake is fixed in step one.

        The rest is too dillute the anchor profile even more and add some strength and additional diversity.
        I never did buy into that diversity mambojahambo. I've used branding or some raw url here and there. But more with purpose, lets say if I was mentioning the brand, or keyword anchor would look out of place. In say a resource/citation link or something.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          I never did buy into that diversity mambojahambo. I've used branding or some raw url here and there. But more with purpose, lets say if I was mentioning the brand, or keyword anchor would look out of place. In say a resource/citation link or something.
          The same anchors over and over is not natural, everyone agrees.

          Most links from WP isn't natural either.

          So additional diversity is simply needed.

          Most SEOs build networks of say 20 sites around a client that already has a ton of links so these type of issue's never occur.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            The same anchors over and over is not natural, everyone agrees.

            Most links from WP isn't natural either.

            So additional diversity is simply needed.

            Most SEOs build networks of say 20 sites around a client that already has a ton of links so these type of issue's never occur.
            Yeah everyone likes WP.

            I like doing custom sites using a good wp cms. I've gotten fairly handy with the "drag and drop" functions. Right up my street. LOLZ

            But I guess the fewer links needed, the better then.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

              Yeah everyone likes WP.

              I like doing custom sites using a good wp cms. I've gotten fairly handy with the "drag and drop" functions. Right up my street. LOLZ

              But I guess the fewer links needed, the better then.
              Look I can do two things:

              1) Remove all previously build links, that costs them a ton of link juice, build the new links and see what happens. Good chance they recover but they miss out on a ton of juice as we removed that.

              2) Adjust previously build links, so they get to keep that link juice and build the new links. Good chance they recover as well, and if they do they will rank even better then ever before.

              It's a bit of a gamble, what would you do?
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              • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Look I can do two things:

                1) Remove all previously build links, that costs them a ton of link juice, build the new links and see what happens. Good chance they recover but they miss out on a ton of juice as we removed that.

                2) Adjust previously build links, so they get to keep that link juice and build the new links. Good chance they recover as well, and if they do they will rank even better then ever before.

                It's a bit of a gamble, what would you do?
                I don't want to count my chickens too soon, but in my experience. My site got a Neg SEO hit with 400k links pointed at 4 pages. They've all managed to not tank on me yet. The only real common denominator they all have is, some really good existing links.

                Or maybe they just did it the wrong way.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    5) Adding some nofollow links from social platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and such
    Now your talking, get some Tweets & Likes in there.

    Follow that with a 7,000 word article & you'll be good to go!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMCapitalist
    An interesting and clearly defined recovery steps indeed, thanks for sharing this valuable tips
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