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SEOquake alternatives? Metrics are not very accurate or reliable.

by Rooks N Kings
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When doing my keyword and competition research I use SEOquake and MozToolbar together so that they display in my SERPs in Google below each result. The problem I am finding is that SEOquake is hella inaccurate. The PR and Alexa rank is the only useful metric I get from it. I never see a site age it always says n/a and the links and link domains are always wrong. (Sometimes it will say a site has 1-10 links when it really has over 1,000)

Could any of possibly recommend to me something new I can use in place of SEOquake? I've tried SEO for Firefox but it does not seem to work for me in the SERPs. Only shows question marks next to all the metrics. What toolbars or SERPs analyzing tools do you all use? I believe keyword and competition research is the single most important aspect of creating a niche website so I am really hoping to get some ideas, thanks!

Currently I am using ahrefs.com for analyzing link profiles of sites in to 10 results and that site is great but having something that will display this info in the serps is very ideal.

As always thanks in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    You are expecting way too much from free SEO plugins. SEO quake is fine. Like all such plugins it uses free access to link counts. to consistently get accurate link count and link data you have to go with something paid.

    thats just how it is. It costs a lot of money to set up servers and infrastructure to get the data and companies do not give all the data away for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    SEOquake wasn't built to check links, If anything it's only doing an old school link:domain.com which isn't much of anything.

    SEOquake can still be useful just don't expect it to do things it wasn't built for (ex: checking link profiles).

    I wouldn't be to concerned about the domain age, look at how well the backlinks are established. An old domain doesn't necessarily mean old/established links, it's possible a domain could be parked/ignored for years and only recently built out a site.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMLab
    It is good to note that Moz, Ahrefs and MajesticSEO are more than enough to cover all your analysis.

    SEOquake is a free plugin with limited functionalities and uses. Don't expect too much from those free tools or plugins.

    Sadly there is no free SEO tool that can get you accurate results as the services mentioned above.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      None of the available services are good enough on their selves.

      What I do:

      - Use mozbar to peak at the PA, if the majority is let's say PA40 and there is one PA1, then I assume that's cause Moz hasn't updated yet so then I take the total PA and divide it by 9 instead of 10 when there are 10 results on page one.

      That gives you a somewhat reliable idea of the competition.

      If you want to go more specific you really need to dive into details.

      Btw if you see some crappy EMD site ranking with a PA of let's say 15 and the majority is say PA50+ then don't think you'll rank with a crappy EMD with few links, most likely he is blocking the crawlers from his private network sites and thus the PA means nothing (always keep that in mind).

      If the majority of results are PA20 and you see a PA60 among them then I add only the PA20 value's and once again divide it by 9 instead of 10 results to get a true idea of competition, as the PA60 is most likely there cause there is not much better to show, you can confirm this even more as you'll see that the PA60 page doesn't relate very well to the topic you're searching for.

      So yeah all metrics should be taken with a grain of salt and common sense, metrics alone mean nothing really.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rooks N Kings
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        None of the available services are good enough on their selves.

        What I do:

        - Use mozbar to peak at the PA, if the majority is let's say PA40 and there is one PA1, then I assume that's cause Moz hasn't updated yet so then I take the total PA and divide it by 9 instead of 10 when there are 10 results on page one.

        That gives you a somewhat reliable idea of the competition.

        If you want to go more specific you really need to dive into details.

        Btw if you see some crappy EMD site ranking with a PA of let's say 15 and the majority is say PA50+ then don't think you'll rank with a crappy EMD with few links, most likely he is blocking the crawlers from his private network sites and thus the PA means nothing (always keep that in mind).

        If the majority of results are PA20 and you see a PA60 among them then I add only the PA20 value's and once again divide it by 9 instead of 10 results to get a true idea of competition, as the PA60 is most likely there cause there is not much better to show, you can confirm this even more as you'll see that the PA60 page doesn't relate very well to the topic you're searching for.

        So yeah all metrics should be taken with a grain of salt and common sense, metrics alone mean nothing really.
        Thank you for that reply. So as I no I understand you right, take the following keyword for example "best laundry detergent for sensitive skin" it only gets 500 searches a month as using as example but the top 10 results are PR 0 - PR 4 with PageAuthorities of PA 17 - PA 60. None of them are directly targeting this keyword however. There do not appear to be any eCommerce sites in the top 10. Is this an easy keyword to rank for or is it a hard one? I asked this question in the general marketing thread but its relevant here to what your saying I think. I've always wanted to understand the concept you've mentioned. What would you say regarding the keyword I just mentioned?
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Rooks N Kings View Post

          Thank you for that reply. So as I no I understand you right, take the following keyword for example "best laundry detergent for sensitive skin" it only gets 500 searches a month as using as example but the top 10 results are PR 0 - PR 4 with PageAuthorities of PA 17 - PA 60. None of them are directly targeting this keyword however. There do not appear to be any eCommerce sites in the top 10. Is this an easy keyword to rank for or is it a hard one? I asked this question in the general marketing thread but its relevant here to what your saying I think. I've always wanted to understand the concept you've mentioned. What would you say regarding the keyword I just mentioned?
          I find it hard to determine the competition when the first page is so mixed.

          Google gives less weight to titles then it used to do and I suppose all the pages are all equally or somewhat relevant to that phrase.

          At #8 I see a PA26 page from all-laundry.com though and the title is not much of a match, still they rank at #8 so that does indicate that the term is not that competititve as they miss the authority + the exact phrase, so that's two things they lack, still they rank at page one.

          There is also a PA17 at #2 here, from stain-removal-101.com. It doesn't look like the type of site that would hide links, especially when you see that the homepage is PA40 of that site and the site is 1370 pages large so it's not a typical IM'ers site that you would expect these type of practices from.

          So all together I'd say that Google still gives a certain weight to titles, though not what it used to be, but the results show it already so it should be fairly easy. As you can see they have the worlds "laundry detergent" in the title and "sensitive skin" in the meta description or actually at the page itself as Google shows that in the description.

          The PA43 site from everydayhealth below that, doesn't have any of your target keywords in their title, only on the page itself as you can see in the description below the title.

          This kind of indicates how hard it is for keyword research tools to determine the true competition of a keyword. As they only scrape titles and no descriptions, and aren't able to deal with partial matches properly enough and if they do they lower the value way too much to come up with an unreliable result.

          For example Moz gives it a competition of 43 percent, is way too high imo, heck much more competitive phrases like "best flat iron" get a similar weight, 46 percent here while there is a truly a world of difference in competition between these two. The reason why Moz gives it such high competition value is cause it gives way too much weight to the DA (Domain authority) of the ranking sites.

          Yes DA gives an extra benefit but not at the rate that most kw research tools make it look like. Totallly ridiculous really.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rooks N Kings
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            I find it hard to determine the competition when the first page is so mixed.

            Google gives less weight to titles then it used to do and I suppose all the pages are all equally or somewhat relevant to that phrase.

            At #8 I see a PA26 page from all-laundry.com though and the title is not much of a match, still they rank at #8 so that does indicate that the term is not that competititve as they miss the authority + the exact phrase, so that's two things they lack, still they rank at page one.

            There is also a PA17 at #2 here, from stain-removal-101.com. It doesn't look like the type of site that would hide links, especially when you see that the homepage is PA40 of that site and the site is 1370 pages large so it's not a typical IM'ers site that you would expect these type of practices from.

            So all together I'd say that Google still gives a certain weight to titles, though not what it used to be, but the results show it already so it should be fairly easy. As you can see they have the worlds "laundry detergent" in the title and "sensitive skin" in the meta description or actually at the page itself as Google shows that in the description.

            The PA43 site from everydayhealth below that, doesn't have any of your target keywords in their title, only on the page itself as you can see in the description below the title.

            This kind of indicates how hard it is for keyword research tools to determine the true competition of a keyword. As they only scrape titles and no descriptions, and aren't able to deal with partial matches properly enough and if they do they lower the value way too much to come up with an unreliable result.

            For example Moz gives it a competition of 43 percent, is way too high imo, heck much more competitive phrases like "best flat iron" get a similar weight, 46 percent here while there is a truly a world of difference in competition between these two. The reason why Moz gives it such high competition value is cause it gives way too much weight to the DA (Domain authority) of the ranking sites.

            Yes DA gives an extra benefit but not at the rate that most kw research tools make it look like. Totallly ridiculous really.
            Hey thanks for this reply. The most important thing I got out of this way the following: "For example Moz gives it a competition of 43 percent" I had no idea moz offered anything like that. I've been on their site the past 3 hours and I LOVE their suit of tools. Made a free account but I think I'm going to make it paid. It has a lot of what I like about Long Tail Pro but I can't afford it so. What competition score should I be looking for in regards to MOZs competition metric? I've ran all my keywords in it now that I have it to use to see what my KC is. What is a number you like to keep below to rank easy? Thanks!
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Rooks N Kings View Post

              Hey thanks for this reply. The most important thing I got out of this way the following: "For example Moz gives it a competition of 43 percent" I had no idea moz offered anything like that. I've been on their site the past 3 hours and I LOVE their suit of tools. Made a free account but I think I'm going to make it paid. It has a lot of what I like about Long Tail Pro but I can't afford it so. What competition score should I be looking for in regards to MOZs competition metric? I've ran all my keywords in it now that I have it to use to see what my KC is. What is a number you like to keep below to rank easy? Thanks!
              KC is unreliable as hell.

              So is Moz keyword difficulty (you can get it for free by signing up for a free account, stay logged in and head over to Google with MozBar enabled and next to the search input field (on the right) you can click that green button saying "Get Keyword difficulty"

              As all these value's need to be manually adjusted based on the results you'll see on the first page it becomes kind of useless.

              Besides that I have no idea about your ranking capabilities, personally I like to stay under 50 but that's with my interpretation of the stats, some Moz 60 percent I might interpretate as 40, while I also often interpretate the 20 difficulty as 40 (all depends on what shows up) and that show show flawed these tools all are, especially KC which is wrong most of the time, simply cause the owner / creator has no clue about SEO. He just saw an opportunity in the market to sell to.
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  • Profile picture of the author zunnun
    Hey you can use SEO Book Toolbar. This is helpfull tool. I personaly use MOZ and SEO Book Tool.

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    Originally Posted by Rooks N Kings View Post

    When doing my keyword and competition research I use SEOquake and MozToolbar together so that they display in my SERPs in Google below each result. The problem I am finding is that SEOquake is hella inaccurate. The PR and Alexa rank is the only useful metric I get from it. I never see a site age it always says n/a and the links and link domains are always wrong. (Sometimes it will say a site has 1-10 links when it really has over 1,000)

    Could any of possibly recommend to me something new I can use in place of SEOquake? I've tried SEO for Firefox but it does not seem to work for me in the SERPs. Only shows question marks next to all the metrics. What toolbars or SERPs analyzing tools do you all use? I believe keyword and competition research is the single most important aspect of creating a niche website so I am really hoping to get some ideas, thanks!

    Currently I am using ahrefs.com for analyzing link profiles of sites in to 10 results and that site is great but having something that will display this info in the serps is very ideal.

    As always thanks in advance!
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    I've always loved SEO Quake for simple things like View Code (when Right mouse clicks are prohibited on the page) and External links on the page. But for some reason External links metrics keeps dissapearing when I close the browser.. need to Reset all the plugin and re-adjust it again. Anybody here with a familiar issue?
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