How to increase Page Authority

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO rockzz

I want to increase my page authority to 25 and the domain authority is 24 .How I can increase my page authority to 24 .
How much backlinks i need for this and which type of backlinks you prefer for this..

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Why would you want to do that? Page Authority and Domain Authority do not bring traffic or rankings.

You're wasting your time and focusing on dumb stuff.

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11 years ago

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SEO rockzz

11 years ago

the keyword is ranked #15 without backlink .... but now the ranking is not increasing that's why I am thinking to increase backlinks to increase Page authority .

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO rockzz

the keyword is ranked #15 without backlink .... but now the ranking is not increasing that's why I am thinking to increase backlinks to increase Page authority .

Page Authority has nothing to do with rankings. It's a metric Moz made up. It is not a factor that Google even remotely considers, so shooting after some random number will do you no good. You could blast the page with thousands of crappy blog comments and shoot the Page Authority over 35 in a month. You won't rank any better though.

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SEO rockzz

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Page Authority has nothing to do with rankings. It's a metric Moz made up. It is not a factor that Google even remotely considers, so shooting after some random number will do you no good. You could blast the page with thousands of crappy blog comments and shoot the Page Authority over 35 in a month. You won't rank any better though.

So is there are no way to increase my ranking ? The content I have in my website is the best content on internet on this topics but still that i am not in first page ....

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO rockzz

So is there are no way to increase my ranking ? The content I have in my website is the best content on internet on this topics but still that i am not in first page ....

I did not say that. I said that chasing Page Authority is absolutely stupid.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate

To have a direct influence of PA is very difficult. As stated my Moz

"Unlike other SEO metrics, Page Authority is difficult to influence directly. It is made up of an aggregate of metrics that each have an impact on this score. This was done intentionally; this metric is meant to approximate how competitive a given site is in Google.com. Since Google takes a lot of factors into account, a metric that tries to calculate it must incorporate a lot of factors, as well."

Lol... Moz lies. Page Authority is absolutely easy to influence and manipulate. I've spammed page to a Page Authority over 50. Nothing but article directories, blog comments, social bookmarks, guestbook posting, profile links, and wikis. Total junk.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Page Authority has nothing to do with rankings. It's a metric Moz made up.

Oh good night...The Mike Friedman and Yukon we hate Moz show again (and they say I go against the whole industry). If he had said Pagerank would it have been any better? Would Pagerank cause him to rank. No but I guess he wouldn't have been attacked like that. it would merely be pointed out that getting a metric number for your site does not equate to rankings

THE END.

and yes sorry Mike You are wrong. Page authority and Domain authority do have a correlation to rankings because the utter nonsense that Moz just made up a metric glides over the fact that it is a carefully designed metric to simulate pageranks and authority. Shucks you could blast sites with spam and hit Pr3 too so the whole nonsense that ooh it can be gamed easily is hardly a distinction limited to pagerank. Don't tell me that when you analyze domains that the metrics of Moz and majestic do not help to filter the sites with actually good links. If there was no correlation whatsoever how would that be?

Now being a non Google approximation does it have issues ? why yes but nowadays EVEN PAGERANK has issues. SHUCKS ESPECIALLY pagerank has issues in that it hasn't been updated in a year and HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED to probably never be updated again.

Seriously get over it. You, Yukon and PaulG can cry about it whine about it but the moz and majestic metrics are here to stay and are part of professional SEO.

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Lol... Moz lies. Page Authority is absolutely easy to influence and manipulate. I've spammed page to a Page Authority over 50. Nothing but article directories, blog comments, social bookmarks, guestbook posting, profile links, and wikis. Total junk.

People did that with Pagerank over the years to. No big whoop.

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MikeFriedman 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Shucks you could blast sites with spam and hit Pr3 too so the whole nonsense.

That's my point.

I'm not hating on Moz. I'm pointing out that the OP is focused on the wrong things. It's just like when someone posts a thread asking how to increase their PR. An increase in PR is not going to necessarily correlate to an increase in rankings. I can spam the crap out of a domain to a PR 4 or 5 even. It doesn't mean it will rank for anything or make me any money.

The OP specifically said he wanted to increase his PA to 25. What's the point?

And yes, Moz saying that "unlike other SEO metrics, Page Authority is difficult to influence directly" is pretty silly.
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AskAnAffiliate

11 years ago

Hi,

To have a direct influence of PA is very difficult. As stated my Moz

"Unlike other SEO metrics, Page Authority is difficult to influence directly. It is made up of an aggregate of metrics that each have an impact on this score. This was done intentionally; this metric is meant to approximate how competitive a given site is in Google.com. Since Google takes a lot of factors into account, a metric that tries to calculate it must incorporate a lot of factors, as well."

You need to remember,

That Google has over 200 ranking factors which all correspond to each other. Many of them are hidden well some are visible like high quality content, site loading, etc. It's going to be hard for you to increase PA without having to influence another metric. I would leave it alone and focus on your end goal or whatever you are trying to accomplish.

You can never go wrong with providing the best content and advice to your readers and let time and Google do the rest!

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SEO rockzz

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate

Hi,

To have a direct influence of PA is very difficult. As stated my Moz

"Unlike other SEO metrics, Page Authority is difficult to influence directly. It is made up of an aggregate of metrics that each have an impact on this score. This was done intentionally; this metric is meant to approximate how competitive a given site is in Google.com. Since Google takes a lot of factors into account, a metric that tries to calculate it must incorporate a lot of factors, as well."

You need to remember,

That Google has over 200 ranking factors which all correspond to each other. Many of them are hidden well some are visible like high quality content, site loading, etc. It's going to be hard for you to increase PA without having to influence another metric. I would leave it alone and focus on your end goal or whatever you are trying to accomplish.

You can never go wrong with providing the best content and advice to your readers and let time and Google do the rest!

Thanks for your resourceful comments

is that the link building is dead now ?

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AskAnAffiliate

11 years ago

Is that the link building is dead now ?

Hi,

Can you please clarify your question?

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SEO rockzz

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate

Hi,

Can you please clarify your question?

My question is that does link building strategy works on SEO in 2014 ? because I am trying to increase my page authority by increasing high quality relevant backlinks .

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RafaelPratt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO rockzz

My question is that does link building strategy works on SEO in 2014 ? because I am trying to increase my page authority by increasing high quality relevant backlinks .

Yes it still does. Considering that you write your own quality content, it is relevant and fresh and the website you are linking your site to is authoritative, Link Building is still a strategy to look forward to in SEO.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Moz metrics - It's like decommissioning a rogue secret agent that snapped.

Good luck with that.

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AskAnAffiliate

11 years ago

My question is that does link building strategy works on SEO in 2014 ?

Hi,

Of course link building works because that's the "root" of Google search algo however they are much smarter in the way they determine what links provide value to another website. For example,

They put much more value on relevance and authority and how it relates to the content you are writing. As mentioned there are too many factors to determine what decreased or increased your rankings or PR. However, a funny thing started to happen when I started writing "high" quality content..people with high authority websites started linking back to me automatically because I provided value and substance. So again, focus on writing awesome content and you won't have a problem with whatever your trying to achieve.

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SEO rockzz

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AskAnAffiliate

Hi,

Of course link building works because that's the "root" of Google search algo however they are much smarter in the way they determine what links provide value to another website. For example,

They put much more value on relevance and authority and how it relates to the content you are writing. As mentioned there are too many factors to determine what decreased or increased your rankings or PR. However, a funny thing started to happen when I started writing "high" quality content..people with high authority websites started linking back to me automatically because I provided value and substance. So again, focus on writing awesome content and you won't have a problem with whatever your trying to achieve.

Thank you again for your valuable suggestion .I have seen my competitors website ranked #1 without good quality article but just through forum backlinks ... Those forums backlinks are seems natural . According to aherfs.com (the backlink checking tool) it has 32 dofollow backlink . 11 nofollow backlinks and backlinks from 40 unique domains page authority is 22 .

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link82

11 years ago

oh gosh, I've been away for a while and it's fun to see Mike Anthony and MikeFriedman debate. I mean that in a good way, fellas

Seo rockzz -- since you asked and I'll just stick to that.... it's easy to influence PA. You can do social bookmarking, article directory submissions, etc. and increase that. However, don't rely on that solely to help you "rank".....

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by link82

it's easy to influence PA. You can do social bookmarking, article directory submissions, etc. and increase that. However, don't rely on that solely to help you "rank".....

No doubt about it. It is easy but its also pretty easy to spot as well. Its a WHOLE lot easier to see when that is happening than fake pagerank was to detect. Shucks back inthe day I blasted sites to PR2 and beyond so you could do the same thing with link spam to pagerank and many did.

MOz metrics are an approximation, no one denies, but this is the only forum I go to in which people claim Moz metrics are "made up" as if they have no correlation to anything. Its been adapted by just about every major SEO tool or service and is widely used among professionals. That would not be the case if had no use in ranking

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Its been adapted by just about every major SEO tool or service and is widely used among professionals. That would not be the case if had no use in ranking

Let's be honest though. The reason it has been adapted by a lot of SEO tools is because it's free. If they were charging for the API like Majestic does, you wouldn't see it as widely adopted in tools. And if Majestic were free, I bet it would be more widely adopted than Moz's metrics.

That's a different argument though, and I am not arguing against Moz.

I never said Page Authority had no use. Sure it can be valuable to evaluate link sources. To focus on it though saying you want to increase your own Page Authority to XX is totally useless and a complete waste of energy. It's no different than saying I want to increase my PR to 3. Who cares?

Now if the OP said his goal was to sell links off the page, so he wanted the metrics to look better to entice buyers, that is a whole different thing. It was pretty clear though that his thinking was, "If I increase my PA to 25, good things will happen."

On a side note, out of all of Moz's metrics, PA, DA, MozTrust, and MozRank, PA is easily the least reliable.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Let's be honest though. The reason it has been adapted by a lot of SEO tools is because it's free. If they were charging for the API like Majestic does, you wouldn't see it as widely adopted in tools. And if Majestic were free, I bet it would be more widely adopted than Moz's metrics.

That's a different argument though, and I am not arguing against Moz.

Sure you are or you wouldn't be trying to rebut my point on tools. At any rate you are wrong. I was not referring to Imer tools but mainline SEO services that in fact do pay for API access. Particularly online tools and analytics. In case you didn't know all access to Moz API is not free

Mozscape API Pricing - Moz

The idea that SEO professionals are so broke they just include Moz in their tools because its free is a bit out there.

I never said Page Authority had no use. Sure it can be valuable to evaluate link sources. To focus on it though saying you want to increase your own Page Authority to XX is totally useless and a complete waste of energy. It's no different than saying I want to increase my PR to 3. Who cares?

You are being a bit coy Mike. like I said if he had said PR then based on other threads it would have been just - don't aim for a metrics. Its only with Moz you say things like "its made up" as if theres nothing to it except Moz made it up. You and Yukon seem to have a blood pact or something on that subject.

People reading you would get the impression moz metrics is the least reliable metric when Pagerank is well on its way to that reality.

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MikeFriedman 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

People reading you would get the impression moz metrics is the least reliable metric when Pagerank is well on its way to that reality.

Never said PageRank was reliable or to use it.

The problem with Page Authority is it is based on the OpenSite Explorer database, which is highly lacking in a lot of cases.

Again though, that is not the point. The point is he is chasing a number that on its own means little to nothing and there is no point in chasing. Doesn't matter if he said Page Authority, Citation Flow, PageRank, Alexa Ranking, or any other metric. There is no point to chasing a number for any of those metrics.
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- Mike Anthony 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  Never said PageRank was reliable or to use it.
  
  Never said you did but you sure are mums the word on issues with metrics whenever its not Moz and anyone that takes the mainline position such as myself that is worthy of some consideration is supposedly a lover of Rand. case in point.....
  
  The problem with Page Authority is it is based on the OpenSite Explorer database, which is highly lacking in a lot of cases.
  
  They all have their issues Mike but you are always on with one. Pageranks is all but dead. Ahrefs has the most comprehensive coverage and yet their metric numbers SUCK (except for the lower numbers ) , Trustflow can be thrown off by a link on a page of a domain that has authority even though the page itself might be seeing little of it. They all stink at recognizing nofollow. Pagerank when it updated was the best but that ship has sailed long ago so instead of blasting the moz metrics better to find out how to use all the metrics we do have together and like it or not Moz metrics are key to that approach.
  
  As a case in point the ability to blast your way to higher moz metrics is pretty easy to spot by looking at link count and if you combine DA with trustflow you get a pretty good picture more times than not.
  
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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEO rockzz

I want to increase my page authority to 25 and the domain authority is 24 .How I can increase my page authority to 24 .
How much backlinks i need for this and which type of backlinks you prefer for this..

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Heres the answer you should have got but didn't from the Moz hate crew.

No metric will cause you to rank. They are all approximations of the quality of link juice. Pagerank coming from google was the most accurate because its their search engine you are trying to rank in but since they no longer update their metrics and have indicated they probably never will again PR has the same weaknesses as any of the others.

If you are just trying to determine the strength of a link then usually anything below a PA DA 20 is pretty weak. Despite what others have said here I analyze hundreds of domains a day and it is VERY rare for a link source to show up with a low DA and a high PR. it pretty good indicator of link strength for multiple organic domains.

Now as has been related but with a heavy handed slant these numbers can be gamed in which case you should always check against other metrics. Mozrank and Majestic as well.

Its not the perfect situation but those that are just crying and whining about DA and PA are not living in the real world. They are trying to hang on out of their great Google love to a metric that is all but dead. Kind of like hanging on to old outdated and retired currency insisting that it has the same value as it did before it was retired.

Feel sorry for them that they wish to live in the past but do not follow their lead. Use Moz and majestic metrics together and you will be fine in determining the quality of the links coming in.

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AskAnAffiliate

11 years ago

LOL,

WOW! I never got updated on what was going on! I'm happy that a debate is going on because you hear broad feedback. To be honest with you guys, I really don't look at metrics but focus on providing substance. This way I feel it's a WIN-WIN. Creating spammy links isn't going to do me any good going forward. If Google eliminates all metrics and solely relies of "value" then I've done pretty well.

I did an expert post and 12/14 people said a huge shift has been made towards value. These people have been in the industry for 15+ years. As far as PA, DA, PR, etc. Those will all be influenced positively WITH VALUE!

Just my opinion!

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IMCapitalist 11 years ago

brief and definite point above, these metrics will soon gone as what I read in few forums and value definitely brings something though.
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