Saving a manually penalized website

by Eoon
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Hi guys,

I guess any advice I get here is my last resort in trying to bring back the dead - saving what can be saved from a website with a manual penalty.

Here is the situation:
  • the penalty was for "thin content" (supposedly), but the content is in no way thin. Without getting into that I'll just say that the website had all unique articles 1k-25k words - over 40 of them
  • no unnatural links, only a handful of links from guest posts from closely related websites
  • there was not much traffic since the website was only starting to rank, but all I want to do is "save" those hundreds of hours of work
To the question - are my best chances in:
  • getting a new domain and doing some sort of a redirect
  • getting a new domain and start from scratch with the content I have and if so, should I just put it all up at once or post gradually
I read and watched a couple of strategies to do this and get at least something back, but I'm not sure which way to go here.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Roopatg
    Since your current website is not ranked much, I would suggest you to go with second one, create new domain and update the articles gradually. Since, frequently updating content might help you to crawl your website frequently.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaaam2007
    I think this is 50/50 chances to recover some thing which is get banned from google. In next iteration google can also see the same content or context and will again issue the penalty for your website.

    Before updating the posts on new website I think you should invest a little to re-write them and improve their quality a little then there are lesser chances to get them banned again.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezeonlinebiz
    My best advice or suggestion is DO NOT get a new domain.

    Frankly, the big G will never penalize a website on the basis of thin content when the content words are over 1k and are unique.

    So, continue creating unique content as usual do not relent. You will bounce back. I promise you that. SEO is all about patience.

    Think about this: if you get a new domain, then you must write unique content that is completely different from the old ones. It's not a mature and wise thing to do.

    And lastly.. DO NOT RELY ON GOOGLE ALONE!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by ezeonlinebiz View Post

      My best advice or suggestion is DO NOT get a new domain.

      Frankly, the big G will never penalize a website on the basis of thin content when the content words are over 1k and are unique.
      Please stop posting on subjects if you know nothing about them. word count of articles does not protect you from getting a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author promo87
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    Originally Posted by Eoon View Post

    Hi guys,

    I guess any advice I get here is my last resort in trying to bring back the dead - saving what can be saved from a website with a manual penalty.

    Here is the situation:
    • the penalty was for "thin content" (supposedly), but the content is in no way thin. Without getting into that I'll just say that the website had all unique articles 1k-25k words - over 40 of them
    • no unnatural links, only a handful of links from guest posts from closely related websites
    • there was not much traffic since the website was only starting to rank, but all I want to do is "save" those hundreds of hours of work
    To the question - are my best chances in:
    • getting a new domain and doing some sort of a redirect
    • getting a new domain and start from scratch with the content I have and if so, should I just put it all up at once or post gradually
    I read and watched a couple of strategies to do this and get at least something back, but I'm not sure which way to go here.

    Thanks
    well, I would say if the problem is because of the thin content then maybe you should start working over it ! Better option would be stat changing the content if you want to save yourself ... there's nothing much you can do about it ....
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  • Profile picture of the author AndresNWD
    I don't think any mentioned strategies will help. You have a manual action so you need to deal with it and send a reconsideration request. According to Google webmaster guidelines thin content is not only about the extensions of your articles, it's also:
    - Automatically generated content
    - Thin affiliate pages
    - Content from other sources. For example: Scraped content or low-quality guest blog posts
    - Doorway pages

    Think if you might have done something wrong, specially links on your post. Any post that has only a link with keyword rich anchor text, will be suspicious.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author sw995
    Did you scrape the web?

    only logical explanation is that the articles were spun, or duplicates
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    • Profile picture of the author Eoon
      Oh God No, did not scrape the web, spent countless hours writing the stuff...that's why I can't get my head around just giving up on it.

      When I write my articles I:

      1) write them
      2) pass them through Grammarly to correct any mistakes that might've slipped through, like "then" and "than"
      3) pass them through copyscape for obvious reasons
      4) pass them through a few readability tests because an average reader understand at the level of 13-14 years old

      And I think that it should be clear by now to EVERYBODY that thin content is just a term and in no way represents a truly lousy text. It is just a term they use to broadly swipe stuff they don't like without getting into the nitty-gritty.

      I read and watched a few tutorials about recovering penalized content so that's why I started this thread, to see if anybody will come up with something...kind of desperate move really...

      Thanks guys
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  • Profile picture of the author Divo
    If your site is E-Commerce, your product and pages descriptions can be considered "thin content" if you do not change them from what the manufacturer has for text descriptions.

    If not an E-Commerce site, your "thin content" penalty may come from having more "affiliate links" than actual valuable content.

    Read the latest Google Guidelines...if you don't have proof of your authenticity on each page of your site, you can also be penalized for "thin content".

    Never scrape content and then just copy and paste it.....TOTAL PENALTY.
    Curate content, rewrite it, copyscape, and serve.
    Google can now EASILY see scraped and spun content and they'll slap your a$$ every time.

    Just do your homework and it'll all work out.
    Much Success to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Start with a new domain but don't redirect the present domain to the new one after switching so that the penalty won't transition to the new domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author godfather25
    I love how so many people confuse content, with text. Bottom line, it comes down to affiliate links, and how many you're using.

    You can have all the unique content written you want, if google thinks your site is one big affiliate website, penalty will eventually hit your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author milesrampel
    Write Google Back in Webmaster tools and explain what happened and what you're going to do moving forward to fix it. In this case - "write higher quality content" even though it seems that you've done that...
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      You need to provide more details about the content OP, unique and free of grammar/spelling issues means nothing at all, neither does word count.

      Are it all Clickbank/Amazon reviews?
      Does your site offer anything else but product reviews?
      Are it all top 10 lists or something?

      I had a thin penalty and restructured the site completely, eg making it more user friendly and look more like a real site, nothing of that helped. It was a review site with few generic articles like "How to use a...." and for the rest all product reviews that didn't offer much that people wouldn't be able to find their selves at Amazon.com

      My reinclusion request was rejected. Sometimes I have the idea you can better start a new site instead of trying to get a manual penalty removed for thin content as once you're on their radar they are real strict while with a new site you probably stay undetected as I have many more sites with the exact same setup which are still ranking, eg undetected.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eoon
        It is a website geared towards Amazon associates website and it only got penalized after I tried Adwords with it and probably somehow got under their radar.

        I try to publish 1:1 ratio of articles that are HOWTOs and tutorials and amazon product reviews.

        The best "thin content" definition I have seen so far is I believe in this thread of somebody saying that the website doesn't add value to the web.

        But my question was not about that - it was about the technical side, is it doable re-using the content on a new website, does it make sense.

        I know it was already indexed and all that, but I poured so much work into it that I just had to ask if somebody can provide some advice that might help.

        Thanks
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