For Our SEO Guru's Who Use WP

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For our SEO guru's who use WP, do you use a SEO plugin? Why and/or why not?

On one site that I am working on, I am using WP as a cms and will not use the blog function. All content will be on pages and not on posts. From what I can see, Yoast and All In ONE may help with blog SEO, but do not appear to help that much otherwise with SEO. Is this correct?

If you do use Yoast or All In One, what is the main advantage that they give you?

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author rabbitking
    Yoast will help you with your on-site SEO for both pages and post. It's almost like an on-site SEO checklist tool and I would recommend it for your website.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    SEO plugins are like training wheels.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      SEO plugins are like training wheels.
      ROFL - The truth has been spoken.

      That having been said, not everyone knows how to (or feels like) getting into their code and adding the custom fields to do it or don't understand how php if statements work, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author NSA
    Yoast is good. And yes, it helps also when used like a CMS. Just need to confugure it properly.

    P.S.: and dont forget to genereate and submit the sitemap in the end (G Webmaster Tools)
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  • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
    I prefer Yoast over All in One SEO because of the on page SEO analysis and the preview it gives you of your search engine listing. It also helps you optimize all aspects of the page including meta data and open graph.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

    For our SEO guru's who use WP, do you use a SEO plugin? Why and/or why not?

    On one site that I am working on, I am using WP as a cms and will not use the blog function. All content will be on pages and not on posts. From what I can see, Yoast and All In ONE may help with blog SEO, but do not appear to help that much otherwise with SEO. Is this correct?

    If you do use Yoast or All In One, what is the main advantage that they give you?

    Thanks!
    My favourite SEO plugin is "All in One SEO Pack" and it's perfect for post and page optimisation. You can optimise the titles and meta descriptions of pages and edit them individually as well.
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  • I'm not SEO guru but i use ALL IN ONE SEO plugin for WP
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  • Profile picture of the author nizamkhan
    I use Yoast, because it has some advance features like 301 redirect, nofollow tag.

    - Nizam
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by nizamkhan View Post

      I use Yoast, because it has some advance features like 301 redirect, nofollow tag.

      - Nizam
      Wow... So advanced. How would anyone ever do a 301 redirect or add a few nofollow tags without a plugin?
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
    Thanks everyone.

    Are there other SEO advantages to using Yoast or All In One?
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Zero plugins. They'll make your site slower, more unsecure etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony Martello
    I used to use the ALL IN ONE SEO plugin but now I use Yoast. It is easy to work with and it is well supported.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    I use W3 Total Cache, best SEO plugin there is.

    It's funny a caching plugin has more USEFUL SEO features and SEO impact than plugins like Yoast and All In One. The latter two plugins are more like adding a cup holder to a car, helps when you need some where to put a cup, but not much use for actual driving fast. W3 total Cache on the other hand is upgrading the engine.

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      I like Yoast for a few reasons:

      1) Disable Author archive
      2) Disable Date based archive
      3) Adjust SEO titles

      I'm especially happy with the last one.
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      • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I like Yoast for a few reasons:

        1) Disable Author archive
        2) Disable Date based archive
        3) Adjust SEO titles

        I'm especially happy with the last one.
        1. Don't use a theme that forces a link to the author archives. Modify the theme so it doesn't link to the author archives.

        2. Don't add the date archives widgets.

        Pretty sure Yoast doesn't disable either archive type, only adds a robots noindex tag to them, they still exist, but they won't be indexed by Google, though will still cost you the same link benefit had you indexed them (that's not a good SEO idea to use noindex on sections of a site you link to). Better solution is don't link to them in the first place: that's theme territory not plugin.

        3. Since the Yoast title tag is only used as the title tag, what are you adding as the WordPress post title that's so different to the Yoast title tag?

        To expand on 3. Before I added the Yoast title tag and the All In One SEO title tag data format to the theme I develop and use (~4 years ago I made the change) I used to argue I didn't see the point in having a different title tag option because if you are optimizing a WordPress post for a SERP like:

        Best SEO Plugins

        You name the WordPress post "Best SEO Plugins" and as long as you don't have a poorly designed theme, the title tag will be "Best SEO Plugins" and all your internal links anchor text will be "Best SEO Plugins".

        With the more recent Google updates I not only want an option for a different title tag to the WordPress post title, I want internal links to a post to use a variety of phrases as the anchor text as well: if I name a post "Best SEO Plugins" I don't want all internal links to use the phrase "Best SEO Plugins", I want variation like "Awesome WP SEO Plugins" and "Top SEO Plugins for WordPress" etc....

        My WP sites have this option and I use the same concept (same format) as the Yoast title tag and All In One SEO title tag data (I use 6 phrases for each post), but no other theme does anything like this. No other themes even use the Yoast SEO title tag for internal links, so what's the point in setting one?

        Are you naming your posts poorly SEO wise on purpose (like "This is my List of the 10 Best SEO Plugins") and setting the perfect title tag via Yoast (like "Best SEO Plugins") and having poor anchor text of internal links sitewide? So sitewide anchor text would be "This is my List of the 10 Best SEO Plugins".

        I don't get it? It's very poor on-site SEO doing it this way and yet lots of webmasters think this is good SEO because they can change the title tag!

        What about internal links SEO?

        David
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

          1. Don't use a theme that forces a link to the author archives. Modify the theme so it doesn't link to the author archives.

          2. Don't add the date archives widgets.

          Pretty sure Yoast doesn't disable either archive type, only adds a robots noindex tag to them, they still exist, but they won't be indexed by Google, though will still cost you the same link benefit had you indexed them (that's not a good SEO idea to use noindex on sections of a site you link to). Better solution is don't link to them in the first place: that's theme territory not plugin.

          3. Since the Yoast title tag is only used as the title tag, what are you adding as the WordPress post title that's so different to the Yoast title tag?

          To expand on 3. Before I added the Yoast title tag and the All In One SEO title tag data format to the theme I develop and use (~4 years ago I made the change) I used to argue I didn't see the point in having a different title tag option because if you are optimizing a WordPress post for a SERP like:

          Best SEO Plugins

          You name the WordPress post "Best SEO Plugins" and as long as you don't have a poorly designed theme, the title tag will be "Best SEO Plugins" and all your internal links anchor text will be "Best SEO Plugins".

          Are you naming your posts poorly SEO wise on purpose (like "This is my List of the 10 Best SEO Plugins") and setting the perfect title tag via Yoast (like "Best SEO Plugins") and having poor anchor text of internal links sitewide? So sitewide anchor text would be "This is my List of the 10 Best SEO Plugins".

          I don't get it? It's very poor on-site SEO doing it this way and yet lots of webmasters think this is good SEO because they can change the title tag!

          What about internal links SEO?

          David
          1: I don't always have time to edit out author and date links from 100's of different themes so disabling it is easy and it does a good job at that as when it's disabled the link redirects back to the homepage

          2: Yoast does disable it, see point 1

          3: For some posts/pages/categories I choose to show the sitename for others not. I also prefer shorter category names instead of showing: "Best Flat Irons | Flat Iron Reviews 2015" in my H1 tag on the page or in the sidebar (main navigation is easy to adjust in the Menu settings while the "Custom Menu" looks real ugly with certain themes.

          So my page title looks different then the H1 title and also different then the actual URL name. More user friendly and it seems Google also prefers some variations between those three elements.

          I set the sitewide anchor text in the main navigation to whatever I want it to be.

          So all together:
          • Yoast title: Best Flat Irons | Flat Iron Reviews 2015
          • H1 tag: Best Flat Iron Reviews
          • Navigation Sitewide Links: Flat Irons
          • Category Name used in Post Meta: Best Flat Iron Reviews
          • URL: /best-hair-straightener-reviews/

          Would be nice to have an option to use shorter more focused post titles in the recent posts widget though. Well Yoast provides that as well by naming the posts short and using Yoast to set a long well converting "SEO" title. Kind of the opposite way of what you suggested for post titles
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