Why Don't I Get More Organic Traffic?

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Hoping someone can give me some helpful advice here . . .

My site is about 12 months old. It's full of what I consider great content, it's updated regularly, but Google just doesn't send me traffic.

You name it, I've tried it. I must've read every SEO article online! I've A/B tested everything I can think of to see if it makes the search engines like me more. Nothing.

It's not unusual for Google to send me as few as 4 visitors per day.

Any suggestions about what's going wrong here? Is the problem likely to be my content, or does it look like I might have done something to upset the spiders?


You can find my site at bestbrokerdeals[dot]com

Thanks for any help that you're able to give!

Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author Web Choice UK
    You can try to be active in any of the social media sites, that will help you increase your websites popularity. Also, can guest post and do some genuine blog commenting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by Web Choice UK View Post

      You can try to be active in any of the social media sites, that will help you increase your websites popularity. Also, can guest post and do some genuine blog commenting.
      I am fairly active, certainly on Twitter and Google+ as well as sites like Stocktwits which are more specific to the area my site is in.

      But even when I drive hundreds of visitors via these channels (which is the only way I can get traffic onto my site at the moment), Google still doesn't pay any attention.

      I've also posted plenty on other blogs and relevant articles, as well as forums.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
        Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

        But even when I drive hundreds of visitors via these channels (which is the only way I can get traffic onto my site at the moment), Google still doesn't pay any attention.
        I'm assuming you've got access to adwords and installed google analytics and GWT.

        If you are confident in what your site offers then start sending paid traffic via Google PPC.

        Analyse the traffic and keep an eye on GWT to see what your popular content is. Also look at what content you can improve. Add content that GWT shows is getting searched but you are lacking in. Create that content.

        Paid is quicker...but you should be doing both.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
          Originally Posted by Oziboomer View Post

          I'm assuming you've got access to adwords and installed google analytics and GWT.

          If you are confident in what your site offers then start sending paid traffic via Google PPC.

          Analyse the traffic and keep an eye on GWT to see what your popular content is. Also look at what content you can improve. Add content that GWT shows is getting searched but you are lacking in. Create that content.

          Paid is quicker...but you should be doing both.
          Thanks for your reply.

          I have both analytics and webmaster tools - although I'm still learning to use them.

          My site has now been declined for Adwords on 2 seperate ocassions. Last week I was basically told that while ever there are adverts on there they won't approve it (don't get me started!). So PPC doesn't seem to be an option.

          If anyone has any solutions to this then I'd love to hear them.

          Nick
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          • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            Thanks for your reply.

            I have both analytics and webmaster tools - although I'm still learning to use them.

            My site has now been declined for Adwords on 2 seperate ocassions. Last week I was basically told that while ever there are adverts on there they won't approve it (don't get me started!). So PPC doesn't seem to be an option.

            If anyone has any solutions to this then I'd love to hear them.

            Nick
            There in itself is a pointer to why you are not getting traffic.

            Have you gone through and looked at Google's terms of service.

            Where's your "terms of service"
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            • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
              Originally Posted by Oziboomer View Post

              There in itself is a pointer to why you are not getting traffic.

              Have you gone through and looked at Google's terms of service.

              Where's your "terms of service"
              What is the pointer? Lots of websites with adverts on them also advertise on Adwords. When you point out to them "there is no material diference between this site that you are advertising and mine that you have declined" they just say that they have reported the other site for violating their policies. But they still don't suspend the site. It's rather frustrating.

              The terms of service (and all other compliance stuff) is linked from the footer and again from the 'about' menu.

              Kind regards,

              Nick
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              • Profile picture of the author DABK
                Google has rules about how you position its ads (in relation to other ads).

                I used to do ads from Google and other sources but I don't remember the rules, so, rather than tell you incomplete, confusing things, I suggest you check it out with adwords itself.

                I don't think that's the issue, though.

                I think the issue is what Mike said.

                Test it:

                Go to Google keyword planner and ask it to give you the keywords for your homepage today.

                Then, some time after you post again, ask it to do the same. Compare the keywords at the top of each list.

                If they're not the same or in the same order of relevance, you have indisputable proof from the horse's mouth that you're confusing the horse.

                Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

                What is the pointer? Lots of websites with adverts on them also advertise on Adwords. When you point out to them "there is no material diference between this site that you are advertising and mine that you have declined" they just say that they have reported the other site for violating their policies. But they still don't suspend the site. It's rather frustrating.

                The terms of service (and all other compliance stuff) is linked from the footer and again from the 'about' menu.

                Kind regards,

                Nick
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by nizamkhan View Post

      You can refer to this thread:

      Free Traffic Generation

      - Nizam
      Thanks Nizam - some good suggestions in that thread!

      I do already do / have tried a lot of this stuff though, and although it does generate traffic it doesn't help me to get any more through organic search.

      What I really want to know is whether I'm doing something wrong on a superficial level, or whether there is likely to be a deeper underlying problem that is preventing search engines from sending me traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Two things.

        First of all, you are in a highly competitive market and it looks like you are doing nothing to build and/or attract links. You can spend all day tweaking your site, but in that niche you are not going to get any kind of rankings without lots of good links.

        Second, you have a dynamic home page. Every time you make a post, the content on your home page is changing. Not only that, it is screwing around with your internal link structure.

        Extremely high authority sites like Mashable can get away with dynamic home pages. This site is not an authority site and cannot get away with it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Two things.

          First of all, you are in a highly competitive market and it looks like you are doing nothing to build and/or attract links. You can spend all day tweaking your site, but in that niche you are not going to get any kind of rankings without lots of good links.

          Second, you have a dynamic home page. Every time you make a post, the content on your home page is changing. Not only that, it is screwing around with your internal link structure.

          Extremely high authority sites like Mashable can get away with dynamic home pages. This site is not an authority site and cannot get away with it.
          Super!!!

          Thanks Mike - this is exactly the sort of help I was hoping to get.

          So I need to focus on building links (are you meaning that I should be doing this in a proactive manner rather than just producing good content and hoping that people will link to it?), which seems good advice.

          The reason the front page is dynamic (it's a blog, re-labeled as "Home") is because I thought this was what Google wanted to see - regularly updated content. A lot of SEO articles specifically advise companies to put a blog on their site and update it regularly for this reason.

          So is the issue that I have a blog/dynamic page on the site, or is it specifically that I'm using this as the home page?

          Finally, what do you mean when you say that it is "screwing around with your internal link structure"? Will it continue to do this if it's no longer the home page but it's still there as a blog page?

          Thanks for your help!

          Nick
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            Super!!!

            Thanks Mike - this is exactly the sort of help I was hoping to get.

            So I need to focus on building links (are you meaning that I should be doing this in a proactive manner rather than just producing good content and hoping that people will link to it?), which seems good advice.
            Build and pray (the method of hoping that people will link to you) is great in an ideal world where everyone has their own website and loves to link to things they find useful. You might get lucky using that method, but for the most part that is all it is. Luck. It might work out. It likely will not.

            I prefer to have more control.

            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            The reason the front page is dynamic (it's a blog, re-labeled as "Home") is because I thought this was what Google wanted to see - regularly updated content. A lot of SEO articles specifically advise companies to put a blog on their site and update it regularly for this reason.
            A lot of SEO articles are stupid.

            There are tons of pages ranking just fine that have not been updated in 10 years.

            For your niche, it probably makes sense to put out content and updates more often, but you could rank a Forex trading type site with all static content too.

            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            So is the issue that I have a blog/dynamic page on the site, or is it specifically that I'm using this as the home page?
            The issue is that it is the home page. The content of your home page is completely different every few weeks.

            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            Finally, what do you mean when you say that it is "screwing around with your internal link structure"? Will it continue to do this if it's no longer the home page but it's still there as a blog page?
            It will not be nearly as drastic if the blog is no longer the home page.

            Your home page is likely the page with the most authority. Therefore the page with the most powerful internal links to give. As your posts are rolling off the home page, it effects the strength of the internal links pointing to those posts, as well as any internal links on those post pages.
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            • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              The issue is that it is the home page. The content of your home page is completely different every few weeks.

              It will not be nearly as drastic if the blog is no longer the home page.

              Your home page is likely the page with the most authority. Therefore the page with the most powerful internal links to give. As your posts are rolling off the home page, it effects the strength of the internal links pointing to those posts, as well as any internal links on those post pages.
              Okay, well in terms of my fairly basic understanding of how authority is passed around a site that does make sense.

              I have noticed that the number of impressions I get tends to increase when I don't post for several days - presumably because my homepage becomes more static. Pretty much corroborates what you're saying.

              I'll give all this a go and hopefully it will make a difference - I'll report back to this thread with any results in a few weeks time.

              Thanks again for the help, Mike!

              Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author alexiastukes
    4 ways to get more organic traffic
    Don’t spread yourself too thin.
    Guest blog on websites within your own niche.
    Promote your guest posts as you would your own posts.
    Check back regularly and respond to comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pdomain
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    Your domain name is 8 months old.

    You are actively working on your website from last 4 months..

    You have posted good, comprehensive and engaging content....

    I'm stuck here, why you are not getting traffic from Google...

    It may be that the website is too new to send you Google traffic considering the competition in the niche.

    Or at the starting of your website, you may have built too many links using directories, article directories that cause penalization but it is not a serious penalization as your content is indexed, you are getting few visitors, if you keep working on your websites...... you can succeed.........

    but avoid building too many links on home page in a short period of time....... use inner pages too for link building (to build as many links as you can)...
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by Pdomain View Post

      Your domain name is 8 months old.

      You are actively working on your website from last 4 months..

      You have posted good, comprehensive and engaging content....

      I'm stuck here, why you are not getting traffic from Google...

      It may be that the website is too new to send you Google traffic considering the competition in the niche.

      Or at the starting of your website, you may have built too many links using directories, article directories that cause penalization but it is not a serious penalization as your content is indexed, you are getting few visitors, if you keep working on your websites...... you can succeed.........

      but avoid building too many links on home page in a short period of time....... use inner pages too for link building (to build as many links as you can)...
      Thanks for your helpful and encouraging reply.

      The domain is definitely a full 12 months old (just ran a whois lookup to make sure - registered 15th Jan, 2014), but you're right that this is pretty new compared to a lot of the competition.

      I did a very conservative amount of link-building from article directories back in the summer - just two or three links, I think, from the higher PR sites. And I didn't notice a fall in traffic as a result - it's just never really taken off as I've started adding content these last 4 months. Hopefully this hasn't caused an issue.

      I do have lots of crappy-looking links coming into the site, but I didn't create them. Presumably Google knows this, as I wouldn't feel confident knowing which ones to disavow?

      Building more links, in a steady manner, certainly seems to be a good suggestion.

      Thanks!

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    Having had a brief look at your site I think you may be seen as spammy.

    Above your header you've got what I assume are affiliate links followed by your navigation and then a banner ad.

    Down the left hand side their is another ad.

    The site needs work on its structure and is missing elements that google likes in establishing authority.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

      Having had a brief look at your site I think you may be seen as spammy.

      Above your header you've got what I assume are affiliate links followed by your navigation and then a banner ad.

      Down the left hand side their is another ad.

      The site needs work on its structure and is missing elements that google likes in establishing authority.
      Thanks for your reply.

      The site being seen as spammy is certainly one of my concerns.

      But . . . when I look at similar sites that rank highly, they'll have all that stuff there as well. Afterall, if the ads weren't there the site wouldn't generate any income. I accept that there may also be a lot of other signals that tell google these sites are not spammy, of course.

      Please could you give a bit more info in relation to your comment about the site's structure and other elements in establishing authority?

      Many thanks,

      Nick
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  • Work on your homepage its too long and have dynamic in nature. Second important thing is sector. You are having strong market to compete so workout smartly try other options also rather using javascripts/api`s of other market leader. Try to write fresh posts in blog section. Follow some other great market leader and try to workout on strategy.

    Also check Google Webmasters and see if anything is missing out or Google has pointed out which needs special attention.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by lancebachmann1seo View Post

      Work on your homepage its too long and have dynamic in nature. Second important thing is sector. You are having strong market to compete so workout smartly try other options also rather using javascripts/api`s of other market leader. Try to write fresh posts in blog section. Follow some other great market leader and try to workout on strategy.

      Also check Google Webmasters and see if anything is missing out or Google has pointed out which needs special attention.
      Thanks for commenting. I'm going to take on board the comments that you and Mike have both made regarding the homepage, and replace it with something more static in nature.

      Javascript/API's - are these the widgets for news feeds etc down the left sidebar?

      There's nothing in Webmaster Tools that is jumping out at me as causing a problem (no manual notifications or anything), but I'm no expert so there could be something more subtle.

      Thanks,

      Nick
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    Social Media sites are your best bet. Another thing to try is to use GOOD Social Bookmarking sites and post just after you post new content, this should help you
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  • Profile picture of the author justicejr
    Keyword research is important. You should to find top topic and create content about this. I think if you have great content (more comment, more useful and more value). I think google don't ignore your site surely.
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  • Profile picture of the author jackluter
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    You have more concentrate on high pr sites which can provide best organic links.Otherwise keep on doing blogs,forums,bookmarking,share in social netwoking sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
    In my opinion, you are suffering with bad keyword usage. That's the only reason i can think of. For example
    "Three Broker Essentials"
    Who do you think would search for that?
    You do not want to get technical and to the point on search engines and your visitors.
    You want to be a bit more descriptive when it comes to titles.
    1. You are competing with some giants and "Three Broker Essentials" is just a knife that cannot help you win.
    You need an ak47 or something like that.
    "Top Three Secrets Of Successful Brokers"
    "Three basic rules every brokers needs to know"
    "How to become a successful broker by following three simple rules"
    From a search engine's point of view, now you can rank for
    "Broker basics"
    "Successful brokers"
    "Broker Secrets"
    "How To Become Successful Broker"
    "Broker information"
    "Broking/broker rules"
    And a combination of other words.
    Let me give you a happy news

    You have solid ranks. Ranking on number three for that. Still no traffic? My reply should make more sense to you now.
    And remember most of the advice offered to you in this thread is actually BS. Two guys did have solid points.
    P.S - Just visit any highly ranked site in your niche and observer the way they present their content. You'll will see my words in action.
    You need to re-title your entire website and you will notice a great organic traffic boost. Either do it yourself or pay to get it done.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

      In my opinion, you are suffering with bad keyword usage. That's the only reason i can think of. For example
      "Three Broker Essentials"
      Who do you think would search for that?You have solid ranks. Ranking on number three for that. Still no traffic? My reply should make more sense to you now.

      You need to re-title your entire website and you will notice a great organic traffic boost. Either do it yourself or pay to get it done.
      Hello,

      Thanks for your reply - it's really helpful.

      Whether or not it is the main reason the site doesn't get more traffic, it is clear that I need to give keyword usage some attention as you suggest.

      Could you expand a little on why you think that I need to re-title the entire website? Is this a keyword issue again?

      Surely renaming the website (I assume you mean with a fresh domain name) is like going back to square one, as the backlinks and so on that I have built up will become redundant?

      Hope you get chance to reply,

      Nick
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      • Profile picture of the author khuram007
        Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

        Hello,

        Thanks for your reply - it's really helpful.

        Whether or not it is the main reason the site doesn't get more traffic, it is clear that I need to give keyword usage some attention as you suggest.

        Could you expand a little on why you think that I need to re-title the entire website? Is this a keyword issue again?

        Surely renaming the website (I assume you mean with a fresh domain name) is like going back to square one, as the backlinks and so on that I have built up will become redundant?

        Hope you get chance to reply,

        Nick
        Nope. That was not what i meant.
        1. You do not need to buy a new domain.
        2. You do not need to change your site name/descriptions.
        ONLY THE POSTS/BLOG POSTS.
        Just a few seconds ago i had a visitor to my site and his search term (Yes i am more often than not monitoring) was "men to men sex ragging". Now my site is not an adult website. It is highly educational. Url from my website (Multi-niche kinda authority site ranking for totally unrelated terms with a solid site structure) had just one matching word "Ragging". Rest totally unrelated.
        This goes to show you the value and importance of what i said about using descriptive urls.
        Let me introduce you to a new formula
        GREAT CONTENT = GREAT PR
        and PR is divided among all of your pages. If you are using descriptive titles and different words, you are basically making it easier for search engines to rank you higher in serp and reward you great content.
        Bottom Line
        Edit your post titles and make them more descriptive. Make it easier for search engines to rank you by giving them more keywords (Related to your niche)choice.
        P.S- Just read some guy advising you to remove blog from home page. In my experience updating the root domain.com on regular basis gets a site ranked way more faster then updating a sub-directory that could be domain.com/blog.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
          Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

          P.S- Just read some guy advising you to remove blog from home page. In my experience updating the root domain.com on regular basis gets a site ranked way more faster then updating a sub-directory that could be domain.com/blog.
          Thanks for the clarification on re-titling.

          It's interesting to see such a difference of opinions about whether having the blog as the homepage is a good or a bad thing. To be honest, it's a relatively easy thing to trial, and if it doesn't make a difference I can change it back.

          Nick
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          • Profile picture of the author khuram007
            Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

            Thanks for the clarification on re-titling.

            It's interesting to see such a difference of opinions about whether having the blog as the homepage is a good or a bad thing. To be honest, it's a relatively easy thing to trial, and if it doesn't make a difference I can change it back.

            Nick
            Do not waste time in trials when you don't have to. Take a look at some of the popular and highly ranked blogs/sites. Over 80% are using their root directory (sitename.com) for blogs. And the remaining 20%, again 80% of them have redirected their root directory to their sub directory (blog).
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

              Do not waste time in trials when you don't have to. Take a look at some of the popular and highly ranked blogs/sites. Over 80% are using their root directory (sitename.com) for blogs. And the remaining 20%, again 80% of them have redirected their root directory to their sub directory (blog).
              Yeah, that works if you are talking about ridiculously popular sites like Mashable or TechCrunch. It does not work for most sites though. You are totally screwing up your internal link structure that way, not to mention it can confuse search engines when your home page content changes every few days.

              In most cases, I would focus on ranking internal pages versus home pages. That allows you to use silos effectively and to rank for a lot more keywords with less work.
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              • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                Yeah, that works if you are talking about ridiculously popular sites like Mashable or TechCrunch. It does not work for most sites though. You are totally screwing up your internal link structure that way, not to mention it can confuse search engines when your home page content changes every few days.

                In most cases, I would focus on ranking internal pages versus home pages. That allows you to use silos effectively and to rank for a lot more keywords with less work.
                You mean you or i can confuse google? Did you just wake up from sleep Bro?
                I can bang this post of yours like anything. But well the forum rules.....
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                  You mean you or i can confuse google? Did you just wake up from sleep Bro?
                  You ever see someone complaining about the Google Dance? 9 times out of 10 it from having a blog on the home page. Their ranking bounce all around because of the content changing plus the internal link structure always being in a state of greater flux.
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                  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    You ever see someone complaining about the Google Dance? 9 times out of 10 it from having a blog on the home page. Their ranking bounce all around because of the content changing plus the internal link structure always being in a state of greater flux.
                    Well Words, words words. Nice words but still just words. I am actually working on a site. The site had a static page for root directory domain.com and the blog was located at a sub directory. Well i moved the blog to root domain.com you know what happened just within the first three days? Here it is

                    I never talk nonsense. Do you want to get technical with me? It'd be fun.
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                    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                      Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                      Well Words, words words. Nice words but still just words. I am actually working on a site. The site had a static page for root directory domain.com and the blog was located at a sub directory. Well i moved the blog to root domain.com you know what happened just within the first three days? Here it is

                      I never talk nonsense.
                      You showed a image with a few lines. Big deal.

                      That could all be bot traffic or an increase of 4 visitors. No way to tell.

                      You are working on one site. I've done this for a living for a decade.

                      Nevermind though. You guys do whatever you want.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
                        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                        Nevermind though. You guys do whatever you want.
                        I've been doing what I want for 12 months.

                        I hasn't worked.

                        Now I'm more than willing to try doing what you suggest.

                        Especially when there is no obvious downside to doing so. What's the worst that could happen - I lose my five Google referrals per day?

                        Nick
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                      • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                        You showed a image with a few lines. Big deal.

                        That could all be bot traffic or an increase of 4 visitors. No way to tell.

                        You are working on one site. I've done this for a living for a decade.

                        Nevermind though. You guys do whatever you want.
                        Oh My! Where have you been working? You don't even know the difference between webmaster tools graph and analytics graph. Do yourself a favour and observe the difference. Or show me a graph and i'll let you know if that's from webmaster tools or analytics. The one i posted was from webmaster tools representing the number of times site appeared in search. Now please don't tell me there were bots googling my website
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                        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                          Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                          Oh My! Where have you been working? You don't even know the difference between webmaster tools graph and analytics graph. Do yourself a favour and observe the difference. Or show me a graph and i'll let you know if that's from webmaster tools or analytics. The one i posted was from webmaster tools representing the number of times site appeared in search. Now please don't tell me there were bots googling my website
                          Who said anything about the difference between WMT and GA graphs? That has nothing to do with the conversation. There are tons of graphs that look nearly identical. WMT does not own the trademark to graphs with grey and blue lines.

                          Your image has no numbers though, so that could be the difference of a lots of queries a day or just a couple of queries a day. No way to know.

                          And queries is not traffic. I don't see any clicks. Queries could include bots scraping the SERPs.
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                          • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                            Who said anything about the difference between WMT and GA graphs? That has nothing to do with the conversation. There are tons of graphs that look nearly identical. WMT does not own the trademark to graphs with grey and blue lines.

                            Your image has no numbers though, so that could be the difference of a lots of queries a day or just a couple of queries a day. No way to know.

                            And queries is not traffic. Queries could include bots scraping the SERPs.
                            How about i show you more of it with another screenshot? That is why i rarely visit forum. Weird people.
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                            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                              I can make charts too.

                              It doesn't prove anything though.

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                              • Profile picture of the author DABK
                                Lovely. Just lovely. And thanks for the laugh!

                                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                                I can make charts too.

                                It doesn't prove anything though.

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                                • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                                  Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                                  Lovely. Just lovely. And thanks for the laugh!
                                  Ahan? Let me get back to my laptop again and i'd like to receive a silly laugh too. And don't worry. I can't play no tricks. Have posted the graph already and i can't make google generate a graph the way i want it in an hour or so.
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                              • Profile picture of the author deezn
                                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                                I can make charts too.

                                It doesn't prove anything though.

                                You're graph is much more impressive than his. You are clearly the better SEO.
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                        • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
                          Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                          Oh My! Where have you been working? You don't even know the difference between webmaster tools graph and analytics graph. Do yourself a favour and observe the difference..
                          Your assuming that we all use Analytics and WMT. We don't.

                          About graphs, here's my contribution:

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                          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                            Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

                            Your assuming that we all use Analytics and WMT. We don't.

                            About graphs, here's my contribution:

                            What the hell happened to the Yellow Pirch? Did they all die, or did they get together and come up with a plan to become more elusive?
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                            • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
                              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                              What the hell happened to the Yellow Pirch? Did they all die, or did they get together and come up with a plan to become more elusive?
                              Well you see, the Yellow Pirch started out trying various methods of elusion and evasion, unanimously settling on a plan that has been tried and true throughout the span of 10 years.

                              The Rainbow Smelt, however, layed unaware at the bottom of the lake for a decade, then began trying various methods of elusion and evasion, ultimately their results were random and varied.

                              What can we thus conclude of the results of the below graph?

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                          • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                            Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

                            Your assuming that we all use Analytics and WMT. We don't.

                            About graphs, here's my contribution:

                            At least mike created an image. But you? You stole it
                            http://crystallakemixing.com/smelt.html
                            You are better than Mike Bro. Yes you are
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  • Profile picture of the author solvemyhow
    Hello,
    Use Google Keyword Planner tool which writing any article. Post should be grammatical errors free and use SEO friendly template and meta tags.

    submit your blog to top search engine. Concentrate on your SEO and look for google trends and write accordingly.

    My blog will help you in search engine submission and in improving SEO.

    Hope this helps !
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I only glanced at the home page, it needs work.

    The first two things that load on the home page header are followed affiliate links.

    I have no idea why anyone would want 39 external social links on the home page. That's only killing any chance of making a conversion ($$), that's 39 reasons to leave a single webpage. If you want to allow traffic to share, make it happen on the Thank You page after the checkout happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I only glanced at the home page, it needs work.

      The first two things that load on the home page header are followed affiliate links.

      I have no idea why anyone would want 39 external social links on the home page. That's only killing any chance of making a conversion ($$), that's 39 reasons to leave a single webpage. If you want to allow traffic to share, make it happen on the Thank You page after the checkout happens.

      You know I hate social links like that.

      Speaking of wasted links, the author links, the date links (which are showing up twice, before and after the articles), and leave a comment links should all go as well.

      That is a shit-ton of wasted links. (<== Yep, that's a real thing.)
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        You know I hate social links like that.

        Speaking of wasted links, the author links, the date links (which are showing up twice, before and after the articles), and leave a comment links should all go as well.

        That is a shit-ton of wasted links. (<== Yep, that's a real thing.)
        I see.

        As you suggested, the plan is to put a static homepage in place, with the blog remaining elsewhere on the site.

        Once the blog is no longer the homepage, should I still implement these changes to remove the links, or won't it matter?

        Thanks,

        Nick
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

          I see.

          As you suggested, the plan is to put a static homepage in place, with the blog remaining elsewhere on the site.

          Once the blog is no longer the homepage, should I still implement these changes to remove the links, or won't it matter?

          Thanks,

          Nick
          I would still remove most of those links. The social buttons are okay, but I would not want them showing on any kind of archive page because it multiplies the number of links on the page. Date links are useless. Author links are only useful if you site has multiple authors, and that usefulness is for users, not search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I only glanced at the home page, it needs work.

      The first two things that load on the home page header are followed affiliate links.

      I have no idea why anyone would want 39 external social links on the home page. That's only killing any chance of making a conversion ($$), that's 39 reasons to leave a single webpage. If you want to allow traffic to share, make it happen on the Thank You page after the checkout happens.
      That's an excellent point.

      Please do keep in mind (if it isn't already abundantly obvious!) that I am not an experienced internet marketer, webmaster, or SEO. That's the reason I've asked for help here.

      As I already conceded, the blog as homepage will have to go. Where these affiliate links remain elsewhere on the site, are you saying that they should be no-follow?

      Are there any links out from my site that shouldn't be no-follow?

      Thanks for your help - I am slowly building a picture of the many things that appear to be wrong with the site - really glad I asked!

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    I can almost guarantee your problem is keyword research.

    If you want traffic from Google, Yahoo and Bing without buildings links, then you must do in depth keyword research.

    There is not any other answer for it, you must learn how to do your research. From my experience I always do my research before I even buy a domain name or anything.

    I always make sure I have at least 100 keywords to target before building a website. That would mean finding keywords with search volume and low competition in the serps.

    If you have not been doing this, you have been wasting your time. Even if the niche is competitive or not, keyword research is one of the most essential steps to get traffic from search engines.

    It's like going fishing with no bait.

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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

      I can almost guarantee your problem is keyword research.

      If you want traffic from Google, Yahoo and Bing without buildings links, then you must do in depth keyword research.

      There is not any other answer for it, you must learn how to do your research. From my experience I always do my research before I even buy a domain name or anything.

      I always make sure I have at least 100 keywords to target before building a website. That would mean finding keywords with search volume and low competition in the serps.

      If you have not been doing this, you have been wasting your time. Even if the niche is competitive or not, keyword research is one of the most essential steps to get traffic from search engines.

      It's like going fishing with no bait.

      Regards
      Larry
      Thanks Larry. Another post has also raised this issue, and it's obviously something I need to spend more time on.

      Can you recommend any good resources to learn more about this?

      Kind regards,

      Nick
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      • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
        Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

        Thanks Larry. Another post has also raised this issue, and it's obviously something I need to spend more time on.

        Can you recommend any good resources to learn more about this?

        Kind regards,

        Nick
        Yeah, I would head over to Spencer Haws blog and start reading up on keyword research. Watch the videos too, there some good content in there.

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  • Profile picture of the author reddy183
    Hi,

    Through only content we are not able to get reasonable traffic. We need to work on creating authoritative back links, & be active in top social media sites. Then only we can see some good traffic.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author renela
    Have you tried to find out the reason why you are not getting organic traffic. Does your site is made as per as google guidelines, I think you first need to check your on page. If everything is fine then you need a strong back links from social media sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author khuram007
      Originally Posted by QueenMelanie View Post

      maybe its time to move on and put your energy into a new site/Project
      Nope. Not a good idea in my opinion. I had a site that got zero organic hits for 8 months. Highly competitive niche. I spared too months and added 400 new quality articles. Since then that site has been beating 8 years old site even though that site is just one and half year old.
      A new project will be harder to rank whereas he just needs a little tweaking with his current site to get ranked.
      i will share another story from my life as a web developer. Remember google saying they will be using https as a ranking signal? i jumped right into it migrating a site from http to https. Traffic dropped. Revenue dropped. Heck! after 3 months i switched back to http and lo and behold! rankings skyrocketed and rankings have been on rise ever since. I concluded https was a new site to google.
      A nice little seo trick indirectly revealed by Matt Cutts is to update your site more often then your competitor and i am telling you from experience it works like a charm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by QueenMelanie View Post

      maybe its time to move on and put your energy into a new site/Project
      The site does okay, actually. Nothing spectacular, but the traffic that I get that doesn't come from search engines converts okay, and the site makes money. So I won't be moving on anytime soon - just trying to improve.

      Kind regards,

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author GreenInkWriter
    You should check On paging of your website once again. Sometime google can not rank website just because of the improper meta description. Another important thing is to select the best keywords for your website. Most of people select two or three phase keywords, but the problem is that they tend to have high search volumes. So ranking becomes tough as they are high competitive keywords.

    Instead of spending your time going after something that may not even be attainable, You should select a-long tail key phrases.
    Hope this will work for your website. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author simsommax12
    I suggest you to post article on and do guest blogging and get contextual links which will lead you to high ranking and traffic + sales. But if you want to rank higher without doing this effort you can find services just for $5 blog guest posts. High quality blogs . So search there and find appropriate for you
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by renela View Post

      Have you tried to find out the reason why you are not getting organic traffic. Does your site is made as per as google guidelines, I think you first need to check your on page. If everything is fine then you need a strong back links from social media sites.
      Have you ever tried reading a thread before posting in it?

      Originally Posted by GreenInkWriter View Post

      You should check On paging of your website once again. Sometime google can not rank website just because of the improper meta description.
      WTF? No. Meta description is not going to keep a site from ranking unless it is just a total spam fest. Even then, Google would probably just ignore it and use a different description.

      Originally Posted by simsommax12 View Post

      I suggest you to post article on and do guest blogging and get contextual links which will lead you to high ranking and traffic + sales. But if you want to rank higher without doing this effort you can find services just for $5 blog guest posts. High quality blogs . So search there and find appropriate for you
      Don't do anything to your site that only costs $5.
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  • One glaring item I may have missed, but it didn't look like you had a site map link on your main page. I found your site map, but have you submitted it to Google through webmaster tools?

    On a side note, I followed your Facebook and Twitter links. It looks like you have a good number of followers and likes, but not very good engagement. Did you pay for likes and followers? I hope not, but understand if you did.

    Boost up your social presence other than just posting your site articles. Get people on the site and in social media talk about your articles. While it is important to have search traffic, if you start getting traffic through social traffic, your search traffic will follow.

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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by Charles Goodnight View Post

      One glaring item I may have missed, but it didn't look like you had a site map link on your main page. I found your site map, but have you submitted it to Google through webmaster tools?

      On a side note, I followed your Facebook and Twitter links. It looks like you have a good number of followers and likes, but not very good engagement. Did you pay for likes and followers? I hope not, but understand if you did.

      Boost up your social presence other than just posting your site articles. Get people on the site and in social media talk about your articles. While it is important to have search traffic, if you start getting traffic through social traffic, your search traffic will follow.

      -CG
      Thanks for posting. I paid for some followers in order to get the ball rolling - once they were there I was then able to attract genuine followers. Nobody 'likes' a page with no likes (except maybe your sister or your best friend from school).

      My understanding is . . .

      Google doesn't pay any attention to these sites - and they've said so themselves. It seems there was a long period when Twitter just completely shut Google out of access to data, and at that point they decided they were foolish to depend on metrics derived from data from sites over which they have no control.

      So they introduced their own - Google+ And I wouldn't dream of buying followers there!

      If anyone knows this to be wrong, however, then please do feel free to correct me.

      I think your suggestion about trying to get people on social media to talk about my articles is a good one, but it's hard to do. I read posts like mine on other sites and I comment. The visitors to my site, it seems, do not. Even when I ask them to.

      Kind regards,

      Nick

      ps. I submitted a sitemap to Google via webmaster tools, but only about two months ago.
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  • Originally Posted by Nick Flyte View Post

    Hoping someone can give me some helpful advice here . . .

    My site is about 12 months old. It's full of what I consider great content, it's updated regularly, but Google just doesn't send me traffic.

    You name it, I've tried it. I must've read every SEO article online! I've A/B tested everything I can think of to see if it makes the search engines like me more. Nothing.

    It's not unusual for Google to send me as few as 4 visitors per day.

    Any suggestions about what's going wrong here? Is the problem likely to be my content, or does it look like I might have done something to upset the spiders?


    You can find my site at bestbrokerdeals[dot]com

    Thanks for any help that you're able to give!

    Nick
    You're probably not ranking highly for keywords that have a healthy monthly search volume. Do some keyword research, find those keywords that get a lot of monthly searches, optimize your site (on page) for those keywords, and start building backlinks using those keywords as anchor text. You should see an increase in traffic once you start ranking well for those terms. Also, you may consider writing a Press Release and submitting it to the different PR sites, as this is another way to increase organic traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by strategic seo services View Post

      You're probably not ranking highly for keywords that have a healthy monthly search volume. Do some keyword research, find those keywords that get a lot of monthly searches, optimize your site (on page) for those keywords, and start building backlinks using those keywords as anchor text. You should see an increase in traffic once you start ranking well for those terms. Also, you may consider writing a Press Release and submitting it to the different PR sites, as this is another way to increase organic traffic.
      I'll definitely investigate the PR suggestion, thanks.

      As for ranking highly for keywords that get good monthly search volume, I have found it impossible to do.

      If a keyword phrase has just a small number of searches, I'll rank page one.

      (eg 'paxforex bonus' or 'avatrade bonus' or 'alpari cashback).

      If it has a lot of monthly searches, I'm out in the boondocks.

      (eg 'tradestation review').

      Those page one rankings, despite the lower search volumes, have made me more money than the page-n rankings for high volume keywords. So I'm naturally drawn to produce content around them.

      I'm not saying that's the right approach - but can you see why I would do it?

      Kind regards,

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author LV1203
    I agree... on page seo, keyword research and TONS of more quality back links are needed for your site. Google hasn't seemed to even give this site a Trust Flow yet and a low Citation Flow. You also only built links last July and August and then nothing since. There needs to be a nice, steady flow of links over a good period of time. Going a little "black hat" and only if done with some discretion, utilizing links like Xrumer and GSA profile links work pretty good for helping increase rank and citation flow...from personal experience. These links just have to only be linked to your Tier 2 links--- not to your money site.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by LV1203 View Post

      I agree... on page seo, keyword research and TONS of more quality back links are needed for your site. Google hasn't seemed to even give this site a Trust Flow yet and a low Citation Flow. You also only built links last July and August and then nothing since. There needs to be a nice, steady flow of links over a good period of time. Going a little "black hat" and only if done with some discretion, utilizing links like Xrumer and GSA profile links work pretty good for helping increase rank and citation flow...from personal experience. These links just have to only be linked to your Tier 2 links--- not to your money site.
      Google has nothing to do with Trust Flow or Citation Flow.

      Using Xrumer or GSA is not something I would recommend for a site you care about long-term.

      As for the steady flow of links thing, that is not true either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by LV1203 View Post

      You also only built links last July and August and then nothing since.
      Not true at all.

      Take this link from this (PR2) site a few weeks back, for example:

      thecrosshairtrader[dot]com/2015/01/the-thinking-trader-70/

      What made you think that I have built no links since last summer?

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
    Pro Tip For So Called SEO guys- lines in a webmaster tools graph are way more smaller in size than the one in an analytics graph.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

      Pro Tip For So Called SEO guys- lines in a webmaster tools graph are way more smaller in size than the one in an analytics graph.
      Again, I never said a word about comparing a WMT graph with an analytics graph.

      Forget about graphs. Explain how a blog home page does not screw with the home page content and the internal link structure of a website. That was my point.

      Even the site you use as an example with your graph... it is not getting any traffic. Zero clicks is what I see.
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      • Profile picture of the author khuram007
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Again, I never said a word about comparing a WMT graph with an analytics graph.

        Forget about graphs. Explain how a blog home page does not screw with the home page content and the internal link structure of a website. That was my point.

        Even the site you use as an example with your graph... it is not getting any traffic. Zero clicks is what I see.
        I see you know how to trick people (clients) but i don't. I'll be posting another pic and get it over with a weird chap.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

          I see you know how to trick people (clients) but i don't. I'll be posting another pic and get it over with a weird chap.
          I have never tricked a client, never would, and you are a total asshole for even insinuating such a thing. Disagree with the topic all you want, but that goes across the line.
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          • Profile picture of the author khuram007
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            I have never tricked a client, never would, and you are a total asshole for even insinuating such a thing. Disagree with the topic all you want, but that goes across the line.
            Thanks for the compliment Bro. I feel the same way about you. Here is the pic i was talking about
            *Now Removed For Privacy Purpose*
            I tempered and hid clicks because i do not want any identification information to be public. Now where is that silly guy who was laughing? Another laugh please.
            And you Bro, are for sure great at tricking your clients. You wouldn't admit though but i did see your amazing graphing skills.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              You are still missing the whole point. It is a more inefficient site structure to have a blog on the home page.

              And do it for 6 months, then say it works. Moving your blog to the home page and seeing an increase in search queries just means you now likely have better content on the home page then you did before. Post to it regularly for 6 months and see if the queries stay up like that.

              You said this was after only 3 days, so that does not address the problem that I brought up with a blog on the home page which is that the content and internal link structure is constantly in flux.

              You did not disprove anything I said. All you did was prove that increasing the quality of the home page of your site had a positive impact.
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              • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                You are still missing the whole point. It is a more inefficient site structure to have a blog on the home page.

                And do it for 6 months, then say it works. Moving your blog to the home page and seeing an increase in search queries just means you now likely have better content on the home page then you did before. Post to it regularly for 6 months and see if the queries stay up like that.

                You said this was after only 3 days, so that does not address the problem that I brought up with a blog on the home page which is that the content and internal link structure is constantly in flux.

                You did not disprove anything I said. All you did was prove that increasing the quality of the home page of your site had a positive impact.
                You remember saying "I can create graphs" that is what brought us where we are now. You brought us the topic to where is it at this very moment.
                Now, you remember me asking, "Do you want to get technical with me? it'd be fun" ? That was your chance to get anything out of me. But you came up with a nominated for an artistic prize picture showing us how you can easily trick your clients. You messed it all up.
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                  You remember saying "I can create graphs" that is what brought us where we are now. You brought us the topic to where is it at this very moment.
                  Now, you remember me asking, "Do you want to get technical with me? it'd be fun" ? That was your chance to get anything out of me. But you came up with a nominated for an artistic prize picture showing us how you can easily trick your clients. You messed it all up.
                  The graph had nothing to do with clients. The point of that graph was that there were no numbers on it like your first post. It could have meant anything.

                  You are just harping on the graph thing because you have no answer for the valid points I brought up of why having a blog as your home page is usually a horrible idea.
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                  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    The graph had nothing to do with clients. The point of that graph was that there were no numbers on it like your first post. It could have meant anything.

                    You are just harping on the graph thing because you have no answer for the valid points I brought up of why having a blog as your home page is usually a horrible idea.
                    Correction
                    Because i do not WANT to answer you.
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  • First of all just good quality content with good site structure with internal linking won't do it without high quality backlinks PR5 to PR9. If you just have low ranking backlinks, it will take a hell of a lot to get you a good SERP. You don't need as many backlinks if they are from PR5 to PR9 sites such as Youtube, Google+, Facebook, Pinopion, Daily Motion, Pinterest, Tumblr, BlogSpot, Wordpress, etc. First you need a Google+ account and register for free on Google places and maps. Make sure your targeted keywords are in your page title, HI, H2 and H3 tags along the the ALT for your images. Most important keywords should go in the first sentence of the first paragraph. Try to have around 200 to 300 words of text on your page and keyword desity should be no more than 5%. Internal page linking anchor text should also have keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by computernetworkingcsg View Post

      You don't need as many backlinks if they are from PR5 to PR9 sites such as Youtube, Google+, Facebook, Pinopion, Daily Motion, Pinterest, Tumblr, BlogSpot, Wordpress, etc.

      You are not getting a PR 5 to PR 9 link from any of those sources. You will get a PR 0 link.
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    • Profile picture of the author jezter6
      [QUOTE=computernetworkingcsg;9848921 You don't need as many backlinks if they are from PR5 to PR9 sites such as Youtube, Google+, Facebook, Pinopion, Daily Motion, Pinterest, Tumblr, BlogSpot, Wordpress, etc. .[/QUOTE]


      Let me guess, gonna put up a fiverr link in your sig in a few days advertising that you'll give PR9 links?


      Yet another person who has now idea what PAGE rank means...
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  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
    Here is a list of some useless websites run by stupid seo experts
    Search Engine Land | Must Read News About SEO, SEM & Search Engines
    Search Marketing (SEM), Paid Search Advertising (PPC) & Search Engine Optimization (SEO) | SEW
    WPBeginner - Beginner's Guide for WordPress
    Search Marketing (SEM), Paid Search Advertising (PPC) & Search Engine Optimization (SEO) | SEW
    onlineincometeacher.com/
    Search Engine Journal - Marketing News, Interviews and How-to Guides
    List goes on and on.
    All of these stupid people using blog for root directory and still have amazing rankings.
    Google must be stupid too for ranking them. How stupid these big seo guys do not even know that they should not use home page as a blog? Poor, poor guys. You Sir are a star.
    And You warrior forum? What are you doing? Did you not read what our SEO star said? Your homepage is constantly changing with each new post. Get a static page here and move the forum to warriorforum.com/forum
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

      Here is a list of some useless websites run by stupid seo experts
      Search Engine Land | Must Read News About SEO, SEM & Search Engines
      Search Marketing (SEM), Paid Search Advertising (PPC) & Search Engine Optimization (SEO) | SEW
      WPBeginner - Beginner's Guide for WordPress
      Search Marketing (SEM), Paid Search Advertising (PPC) & Search Engine Optimization (SEO) | SEW
      onlineincometeacher.com/
      Search Engine Journal - Marketing News, Interviews and How-to Guides
      List goes on and on.
      All of these stupid people using blog for root directory and still have amazing rankings.
      Google must be stupid too for ranking them. How stupid these big seo guys do not even know that they should not use home page as a blog? Poor, poor guys. You Sir are a star.
      And You warrior forum? What are you doing? Did you not read what our SEO star said? Your homepage is constantly changing with each new post. Get a static page here and move the forum to warriorforum.com/forum
      Go back to what I said. I said if you are a huge authority, you can get away with that. Their incoming link power offsets most anything they do onpage.

      Most people on this forum are not running, nor will they ever run, huge authority sites like those.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          If you want to talk (or argue) about SEO, let's do it.

          Stop with all the personal attacks.

          Nobody is being fooled.
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          • Profile picture of the author khuram007
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            If you want to talk (or argue) about SEO, let's do it.

            Stop with all the personal attacks.

            Nobody is being fooled.
            Of course no one is being fooled. Exposing is not attacking. I am just helping others and stating facts. No a single piece of lie! GO PEOPLE READ IT ALL
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

              Of course no one is being fooled. Exposing is not attacking. I am just helping others and stating facts. No a single piece of lie! GO PEOPLE READ IT ALL

              Khuram007, you have lied. You stated that I lie to and deceive my clients without any evidence of it. You have not exposed anything. You couldn't because you do not know a single one of my clients or are privy to the conversations we have.
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              • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                Khuram007, you have lied. You stated that I lie to and deceive my clients without any evidence of it. You have not exposed anything. You couldn't because you do not know a single one of my clients or are privy to the conversations we have.
                You lie - "Dynamic home pages are bad. Don't use them"
                And then you tell your clients to use them. May be you also provide your clients with illegal themes in return for using crap seo service. How do i know?
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                  You lie - "Dynamic home pages are bad. Don't use them"
                  And then you tell your clients to use them. May be you also provide your clients with illegal themes in return for using crap seo service. How do i know?
                  First, it is not my client. Second, that site is not using a dynamic home page.

                  So no, I am not lying.

                  NONE of my clients have a dynamic home page.
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                  • Profile picture of the author khuram007
                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    First, it is not my client. Second, that site is not using a dynamic home page.

                    So no, I am not lying.

                    NONE of my clients have a dynamic home page.
                    They are not your clients? And you feature them on your site? Gosh! So you are lying to your visitors as well. Give it up. You are just getting yourself deeper into the rabbit hole.
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                    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                      Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

                      They are not your clients? And youre them on your site? Gosh! So you are lying to your visitors as well. Give it up. You are just getting yourself deeper into the rabbit hole.
                      Nowhere on that page does it say they are clients of mine or any of the others that left testimonials. They were leaving feedback on the course. I don't claim to do SEO work for them, so yeah no lying there.

                      Now you are just trolling and making up stuff.

                      On that note, I'm bowing out of this useless back and forth. If you want to discuss SEO, by all means I am happy to do it. If you want to just make up junk to derail a conversation, I'm no longer interested.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        Go back to what I said. I said if you are a huge authority, you can get away with that. There incoming link power offsets most anything they do onpage.

        Most people on this forum are not running, nor will they ever run, huge authority sites like those.
        It's an interesting point. A trading forum that I used to frequent in it's heyday had a very dynamic front page with content that was constantly changing. It worked fine.

        Then . . . The forum very publicly became unpopular and all the old hands stopped contributing. And one of the very first things the owners did to try and stem the tide?

        They switched to a static front page.

        Nick
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    This thread went full graph retard.
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    • Profile picture of the author khuram007
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      This thread went full graph retard.
      I did not want it to end like this. He kind of pushed me in this direction. So i had to pay him a little attention and when i did i found him to be fake and rather illegal. I didn't even share the half of what i found. Here is a joke to brighten up your day.
      Usually a blog has categories. And usually if the blog is not on root domain it has a sub directory or sub domain. But this guy?
      Seopubacademy.com/category/blog.
      His category has a blog . What kind of seo expert could he be? The word "Category" does no good in terms of seo. His own site needs seo attention. You want more jokes? Lemme know
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

        I did not want it to end like this. He kind of pushed me in this direction. So i had to pay him a little attention and when i did i found him to be fake and rather illegal. I didn't even share the half of what i found. Here is a joke to brighten up your day.
        Usually a blog has categories. And usually if the blog is not on root domain it has a sub directory or sub domain. But this guy?
        Seopubacademy.com/category/blog.
        His category has a blog . What kind of seo expert could he be? The word "Category" does no good in terms of seo. His own site needs seo attention. You want more jokes? Lemme know
        That is a site that I have put zero effort into ranking. It is all referral traffic and PPC. Almost all of the content is private, so there is no point in worrying about SEO on it. In fact, you can ask anyone in the course. I specifically have told them not to look at that site as an example of onpage SEO. It is a horrible example. I use H tags all out of place. Images are not optimized. Like I said though, nearly all of the content is private and the traffic is strictly referral and PPC traffic. That was my plan with it all along.

        As for the other site you mention, that is not my site. It is someone who gave a testimonial for a course I sell. I know nothing about the theme they use. I did not build the site.

        Their homepage is almost completely static. There is a latest posts widget with a few excerpts. The rest of the content is static. It is a perfectly fine setup in my opinion. Considering they rank #1 in their market, they are obviously doing something right.

        Even if it was not a static home page, not everyone I come into contact with does everything I suggest they do.

        So in both examples I really am not sure what you think you exposed.

        Again, if you want to talk about the SEO points of a static versus dynamic home page, go ahead. So far you have not brought up any points that state dynamic pages are better and why other than mentioning sites like Search Engine Land, which from the very beginning I said that huge authority sites can get away a dynamic home page much easier than the traditional sites members here would own.
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        • Profile picture of the author khuram007
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          That is a site that I have put zero effort into ranking. It is all referral traffic and PPC. Almost all of the content is private, so there is no point in worrying about SEO on it.

          As for the other site you mention, that is not my site. It is someone who gave a testimonial for a course I sell. I know nothing about the theme they use. I did not build the site.

          Their homepage is almost completely static. There is a latest posts widget with a few excerpts. The rest of the content is static. It is a perfectly fine setup in my opinion. Considering they rank #1 in their market, they are obviously doing something right.

          Even if it was not a static home page, not everyone I come into contact with does everything I suggest they do, so I really am not sure what you think you exposed.

          Again, if you want to talk about the SEO points of a static versus dynamic home page, go ahead. So far you have not brought up any points that state dynamic pages are better and why other than mentioning sites like Search Engine Land, which from the very beginning I said that huge authority sites can get away a dynamic home page much easier than the traditional sites members here would own.
          You won't be getting a line of SEO advise out of me. And that site? Too poor to buy a them and using a pirated/nulled/illegal theme. Yeah i can guess how well they rank.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by khuram007 View Post

            You won't be getting a line of SEO advise out of me. And that site? Too poor to buy a them and using a pirated/nulled/illegal theme. Yeah i can guess how well they rank.
            I did not see any proof of a pirated theme. Like I said though, not my site so it really has nothing to do with our conversation.
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            • Profile picture of the author khuram007
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              I did not see any proof of a pirated theme. Like I said though, not my site so it really has nothing to do with our conversation.
              You did not see that big picture proof i shared? Here visit wpthemedetector.com and check that website. The Screen would have "theme shared on wp locker". Now i can't manage enough time to stay here. I got work and i mean real work. I am not hunting for clients on a famous forum with my services link in signature. Good luck though!
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  • Profile picture of the author User-Name
    Looking at the 400+ things that google looks at in decreasing order

    Does your website load fast? test it tick box
    Do you have to many external links (google hates noise) make them nodofollow tick box
    Are you transparent with the information you keep on your surfer (privacy policy)
    Is your content relevant
    Is your content engaging
    How is your bounce rate
    Do you use cats and tags efficiently
    A few good plugins Google sitemap/allinoneseo/a cache plugin (dont overdo it with plugins)
    update your ping list to include current sites (dont just ping the one website)
    Make sure you submit your rssfeed to the aggregators
    Use a plugin to mass distribute your content to multiple web 2.0 properties

    Very important to get the onsite seo right first before you follow advice of people trying to sell you link packages (look at the signatures)

    It should become tick box/ tick box/ tick box
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    First of all, please check your robot.txt file and be confirm that you are not forbidding search engines to index your site. Though probability of this is little, but I got people in my experience doing this by mistake.

    Secondly, you are in a very competitive niche, so your competition is higher and SEO will be tough here, but not impossible. Also, please change your homepage to a static one instead of dynamic page.

    Thirdly, please create a sitemap and submit to Google, beside this whenever you update your website content, please ping it, so that Google is informed about this. Also, Google is giving high priority to social signals now, make your site as much active as possible in social platforms.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessicalad
    To increase organic traffic, you need to increase and post regular content on the website. With the help of which you can increase the user base which in turn increases traffic to the website..
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  • Profile picture of the author elizabeth140
    Have you attempted to discover the motivation behind why you are not getting natural activity. Does your site is made according to as google rules, I think you initially need to check your on page. On the off chance that all is well then you require an in number back connections from social networking destinations
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  • Profile picture of the author bertieallsorts
    You have the right idea mate, its about putting it all toegther and improving, as you intend to.

    Keyword research is a big thing here, you need to do it mate and start to target low competition high volume traffic keywords, and variations of keywords and get afair bit of diversity in their. and build some good quality strong links.

    Continue to be active on the social networking sites.

    Its organic traffic from the search engines you want and plenty of it, and this will come with

    Good on page SEO
    good keyword selection/variations
    building quality backlinks to your pages, targeting your keywords on page
    social media spread (being shared)


    These are some of the things that are important to you right now, others have mentioned other things, some of those are important also, definatley follow through with mikes advise on the homepage aswell.

    Your on the right track here mate, keep at it, it will all come toegther soon

    Bertie
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Originally Posted by bertieallsorts View Post

      You have the right idea mate, its about putting it all toegther and improving, as you intend to.

      Keyword research is a big thing here, you need to do it mate and start to target low competition high volume traffic keywords, and variations of keywords and get afair bit of diversity in their. and build some good quality strong links.

      Continue to be active on the social networking sites.

      Its organic traffic from the search engines you want and plenty of it, and this will come with

      Good on page SEO
      good keyword selection/variations
      building quality backlinks to your pages, targeting your keywords on page
      social media spread (being shared)


      These are some of the things that are important to you right now, others have mentioned other things, some of those are important also, definatley follow through with mikes advise on the homepage aswell.

      Your on the right track here mate, keep at it, it will all come toegther soon

      Bertie
      Thanks for your encouraging reply Bertie.

      I am slowly managing to increase the traffic I get through organic search, so hopefully this will continue to grow. I have followed up on Mike's suggestion of a static homepage, which roughly doubled my traffic in a matter of days (albeit still at a low number), and on other suggestions here to focus on keyword research and titles.

      The main thing that I have noticed, however, is that the bounce rate has been reduced considerably and that people are viewing an average of three or four pages before leaving the site. Presumably this is because the site is now easier to navigate.

      I was also (finally) approved for adwords, though haven't yet run a campaign.

      Having audited the links to my site and disavowed the spammy ones, I'm now about to begin a campaign of link building which is the final main area that it was suggested that I focus upon.

      I'll update the thread with my progress in due course.

      Kind regards,

      Nick
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Flyte
      Thanks for the suggestion.

      I have tried to learn more about how to carry out keyword research and write articles that rank for long tail searches, but these haven't really resulted in much additional traffic.

      I think the reason for this is probably lack of backlinks in to the site rather than the articles themselves, so I'm going to focus on link building now and see whether this helps to provide traffic for the long-tail keywords in my articles.

      Thanks,

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author mrhmamun
    Your are trying with highly competitive niche, already Google has more popular story about this, try to use long tail keyword for your every single post with low competitive keyword to get first page on Google that converse visitors later.
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