More Unique Page Ttitle Questions

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Last thoughts on this, I promise... In consideration of how google filters stop/noindex words and punctuation/numbers...

Consider these two titles:

John's Duck Collection pg. 1 of 6
John's Duck Collection pg. 2 of 6

Unique in the eyes of Google SEO?

How about something like:

John's Duck Collection [*]
John's Duck Collection

and the possessive:

John's Duck Collection
Johns Duck Collection

I have to manage literally millions of page titles and I need to write script that generates unique but meaningful titles for every page...

Again, thank you for the comments, even the condescending ones...
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Steviebone View Post

    Last thoughts on this, I promise... In consideration of how google filters stop/noindex words and punctuation/numbers...

    Consider these two titles:

    John's Duck Collection pg. 1 of 6
    John's Duck Collection pg. 2 of 6
    This example is a bit different, I've seen Youtube videos on Google SERPs show multiple series videos where the page title was the same except for the video number in the <title>.

    Example:
    Try the search below If you want to see more examples:

    Even though Google is showing those same page titles it's still very touchy because most of those pages could easily end up in Supplemental SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steviebone
    Thanks, Yukon.

    By supplemental SERP I assume you mean pages Google thinks are similar in terms of keyword priority and therefore pushed to the back of the results (no real traffic)? (keyword cannibalization).

    Let's say I am publishing an online version of the Arizona Probate Code. The Code may likely be thousands of pages. Each page has unique content (although there are many potential keywords that occur with frequency naturally) as it contains different statute text. I've given each page a unique title, h1 and url path.

    However, it is virtually impossible to avoid similar titles across these pages. One scheme might be -

    Utah Law - Probate Code - pg. 37
    Utah Law - Probate Code - pg. 38

    and so on.

    This produces many pages with only slightly different titles, though very different content.

    I can maybe add a section heading to the title such as:

    Utah Law - Probate Code - Title1. Jurisdiction - pg. 37

    However, this gets complicated because not every page has subheads. I suppose I could track headings across pages like a header/footer in a book, but this would still add more similar titles (although not as many). Another problem with this approach is that some headings are long, and many repeat words like 'chapter', 'title', 'Sec.' etc. People do sometimes search by section number so having a number in the title might be advantageous. However, again, there are often many such numbers on a single page...

    So what impact does this have when there are many similar titles that have very different content?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Steviebone View Post

      Thanks, Yukon.

      By supplemental SERP I assume you mean pages Google thinks are similar in terms of keyword priority and therefore pushed to the back of the results (no real traffic)? (keyword cannibalization).

      Let's say I am publishing an online version of the Arizona Probate Code. The Code may likely be thousands of pages. Each page has unique content (although there are many potential keywords that occur with frequency naturally) as it contains different statute text. I've given each page a unique title, h1 and url path.

      However, it is virtually impossible to avoid similar titles across these pages. One scheme might be -

      Utah Law - Probate Code - pg. 37
      Utah Law - Probate Code - pg. 38

      and so on.

      This produces many pages with only slightly different titles, though very different content.

      I can maybe add a section heading to the title such as:

      Utah Law - Probate Code - Title1. Jurisdiction - pg. 37

      However, this gets complicated because not every page has subheads. I suppose I could track headings across pages like a header/footer in a book, but this would still add more similar titles (although not as many). Another problem with this approach is that some headings are long, and many repeat words like 'chapter', 'title', 'Sec.' etc. People do sometimes search by section number so having a number in the title might be advantageous. However, again, there are often many such numbers on a single page...

      So what impact does this have when there are many similar titles that have very different content?
      You have a lot going on with that project.

      I know this all depends on the database being scraped, can you scrape a section of on-page text & use that for unique page titles?

      Example:

      [source]

      75-2-110. Debts to decedent
      • <title>75-2-110. Debts to decedent - domain.com</title>
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  • Profile picture of the author Steviebone
    Yes, and no. There are problems with that approach. For one, there are many headings that may be the same such as "Sec. 1. Definitions" occurs in multiple chapters. Also, some pages have several headings, some have none. Also some headings can be quite long and contain undesirable letters like colons, semicolons and such, without which the meaning can become confusing.

    But let me understand another aspect of this. If I have 1,000 pages titled something like:

    Utah Law - Probate Code - Chapter 1 - pg. 1
    Utah Law - Probate Code - Chapter 1 - pg. 2

    etc.

    am I diluting the keyword searchability of "Utah Probate Code" because the words are in too many titles (keyword cannibalization)? Or will Google see the anchor text on all these pages back to the single start point and know that this is the predominant page?

    As for the SILO, all the urls are compartmentalized something like:

    /Utah-Law/Probate-Code/Table-of-Contents/1/scriptname?{quertystr}
    /Utah-Law/Probate-Code/Table-of-Contents/2/scriptname?{quertystr}

    I'm hoping to be able to let Google understand structure and content WITHOUT the use of any query string parameters (even though they are needed to execute). Might this also help with the whole keyword cannibalization thing? More about all this SILO stuff in another thread.

    PS: and yes there is ONE single unique path for each page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steviebone
    BTW, the Utah link is interesting... I suppose I could use a similar inclusive numbering technique... I'm going to think on that. I thought their page title attribute was lacking tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunil900
    you are check your website report woorank report then use title keyword and description.
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