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Ranksword

11 years ago

You can't expect good services at $29 a month.
Maybe you should check warrior for hire section for seo services.

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AndresNWD

11 years ago

Why don't you start with some basic local SEO stuff like Google Places, local directories, and make sure you include your physical business address in your website.

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trevstar22

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AndresNWD

Why don't you start with some basic local SEO stuff like Google Places, local directories, and make sure you include your physical business address in your website.

Yes, I intend to do all the regular SEO stuff and routine items like you mentioned but I am also looking
for something to give an extra edge.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

Yes, I intend to do all the regular SEO stuff and routine items like you mentioned but I am also looking
for something to give an extra edge.

You are not going to get an extra edge for $29/month or $99/month. Sorry.

If that is your budget for advertising, you should rethink your marketing plan. SEO is probably not for you.

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trevstar22

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

You are not going to get an extra edge for $29/month or $99/month. Sorry.

If that is your budget for advertising, you should rethink your marketing plan. SEO is probably not for you.

I just love these blanket statements! Sorry, but it is hard to take it seriously. First of all does that mean you know and have personally investigated every such service and found them wanting. Secondly, I do know that Syndwire and others DO help, I think the evidence is clear on that. Now if you mean SEO is not for me as a career, you are right. It bores me to death! I simple would like to find services or software that are helpful.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

I just love these blanket statements! Sorry, but it is hard to take it seriously.

What he meant is that you can't expect any sort of real SEO service for that price. For that price you're getting something from half to one hour of work in most Western world countries which is simply not enough. Maybe it's 2 or 3 times that if you buy from poorer countries, but that's still not much.

But I'm guessing that you're looking for a technical gizmo or a silver bullet solution. That's what Syndwire is, right? I'm not trying to piss on your parade too much, but please note that most of these are riding on a trick that may or may not work. Maybe it's a PBN or some other link scheme. For example, there have been YouTube publishing and bulk email platforms that have practically collapsed when enough people joined, and the spam got bad enough that Google or someone else at the receiving end decided to block the hole they were using.

Also note that many if not most positive comments in these cases are from affiliates. You can't trust what they say, or even that the "buzz" is actually real. The kind of Internet Marketer scene that you see on this very forum artificially generates these sales events.

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trevstar22

11 years ago

I appreciate your advice. Certainly, it is the conventional wisdom that SEO work is expensive and requires expert knowledge which software cannot provide. However, the way I see it, you may have to go to a doctor if you feel sick, but sometimes all you need is an aspirin. The truth is I see many programs out there that are useful, some of them are free, since I have not been focusing on SEO for the past few months, I just wanted to get current on what might be working now. Not a silver bullet all in one solution
but simply that might give an edge. As you said, the solution MAY or may not work. But you do acknowledge it MAY work.

Originally Posted by nettiapina

What he meant is that you can't expect any sort of real SEO service for that price. For that price you're getting something from half to one hour of work in most Western world countries which is simply not enough. Maybe it's 2 or 3 times that if you buy from poorer countries, but that's still not much.

But I'm guessing that you're looking for a technical gizmo or a silver bullet solution. That's what Syndwire is, right? I'm not going to crap on your parade too much, but please note that most of these are riding on a trick that may or may not work. Maybe it's a PBN or some other link scheme. For example, there have been YouTube publishing and bulk email platforms that have practically collapsed when enough people joined, and the spam got bad enough that Google or someone else at the receiving end decided to block the hole they were using.

Also note that many if not most positive comments in these cases are from affiliates. You can't trust what they say, or even that the "buzz" is actually real. The kind of Internet Marketer scene that you see on this very forum artificially generates these sales events.

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nettiapina 11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

However, the way I see it, you may have to go to a doctor if you feel sick, but sometimes all you need is an aspirin.

This analogy nicely demonstrates the problem on this particular field. Usually you know that you're getting something that's positive and useful. Neither doctor or pharmacy is going to hurt you, although the latter might unfortunately sell you something completely useless.

In this case you need to know the methods the service is using. If it's a backlink service, what's their overall method and how do they approach it? You may end up with rat poison instead of aspirin, or faith healer instead of a doctor. Or maybe it's something benign that just accomplishes nothing, like homeopathy or some kind of silly light therapy device.

Man, I just love over-extending a metaphor!

So there's at least three possible outcomes: it's good for you, it does nothing, or it's bad for you. And in the case nothing happens you're losing money.

Originally Posted by trevstar22

As you said, the solution MAY or may not work. But you do acknowledge it MAY work.

Of course. Purchased links do work. Depending on your approach you may not even care if some of the links are quite poor.

Added: however, if Mike F.'s description is correct we're firmly in the "does nothing" camp.
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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

I just love these blanket statements! Sorry, but it is hard to take it seriously. First of all does that mean you know and have personally investigated every such service and found them wanting. Secondly, I do know that Syndwire and others DO help, I think the evidence is clear on that. Now if you mean SEO is not for me as a career, you are right. It bores me to death! I simple would like to find services or software that are helpful.

Syndwire does not work to rank jack squat. All it does is create social bookmarks. Social bookmarks are about as close to useless for rankings as you can get. In fact, creating large quantities of them on many of the sites that a service like that posts to is a great way to incur the wrath of Penguin.

I'm not sure what evidence you are talking about. If you mean the numerous reviews for it online, then yeah. That's what happens when you have an affiliate program and get a lot of affiliates on board.

Really, with SEO you get what you pay for. Years ago, a poor service or link building tool usually just meant you saw zero improvement in your rankings. Since Penguin, it means your pages could be banished from the rankings altogether. Be careful about going cheap.

But if you are going to go this route and still think social bookmarks are going to help you rank, then just buy GSA SER, Ultimate Demon, or find some cheap gig on Fiverr and you can build plenty of them for a lot cheaper than Syndwire.

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trevstar22

11 years ago

Hi Mike,
I do not pay much attention to affiliate reviews of products, I look for opinions from those without a vested interest. What impressed me about Syndwire is that two well know marketers in separate blogs this week mentioned the great results they got using it and they had no affiliate links to the product. One marketer
is a very well known and very successful and knowledgeable SEO Expert and he was enthusiastic about the results he got with it. Like I said, he had no affiliate incentive to promote it. Now of course, it may work now, it may not work a year from now, no problem. Change tactics.

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Syndwire does not work to rank jack squat. All it does is create social

bookmarks. Social bookmarks are about as close to useless for rankings as you can get. In fact, creating large quantities of them on many of the sites that a service like that posts to is a great way to incur the wrath of Penguin.

I'm not sure what evidence you are talking about. If you mean the numerous reviews for it online, then yeah. That's what happens when you have an affiliate program and get a lot of affiliates on board.

Really, with SEO you get what you pay for. Years ago, a poor service or link building tool usually just meant you saw zero improvement in your rankings. Since Penguin, it means your pages could be banished from the rankings altogether. Be careful about going cheap.

But if you are going to go this route and still think social bookmarks are going to help you rank, then just buy GSA SER, Ultimate Demon, or find some cheap gig on Fiverr and you can build plenty of them for a lot cheaper than Syndwire.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

My suggestion is OP go ahead & buy Syndwire because he's obviously fixated on that specific product & the only way he'll know it's junk for SEO is to buy it & not rank pages.

When you get done playing games & realize quality links are the core for ranking webpages & social (anything) doesn't rank pages, then you can eventually start working on a decent link profile.

Live & learn, even If it cost money...

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trevstar22

11 years ago

No, I am not fixated on Syndwire, as I mentioned in the first post, it is too expensive for me.
But some were pointing it out as an example of a program that is useless and does not work
and I thought that was clearly not true. But let us get away from syndwire. Are saying there are are no tools and services that help that do not require expensive SEO

Originally Posted by yukon

My suggestion is OP go ahead & buy Syndwire because he's obviously fixated on that specific product & the only way he'll know it's junk for SEO is to buy it & not rank pages.

When you get done playing games & realize quality links are the core for ranking webpages & social (anything) doesn't rank pages, then you can eventually start working on a decent link profile.

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yukon Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

Are saying there are are no tools and services that help that do not require expensive SEO

There's no magic bullet (software) for ranking webpages.

If you want software to help automate with a specific SEO related task, sure, there's probably something available but you're going to have to be specific on what your working on & don't say ranking pages because that's not specific.
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nettiapina 11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

Are saying there are are no tools and services that help that do not require expensive SEO

That would depend on your definition of tools and services, but also what you mean by expensive. I know, you did have some prices in the original post, but from my point of view $100 is cheap and $500 is still affordable to most businesses. $29 is the kind of money you spend on a couple of movie tickets.

Professional tools are often several hundred per license, and services way more than $29 per month.

In the past I've used some link builders that were either in the $100 a pop or $100/mo range, and I was fairly satisfied with the quality. Again, it depends on the kind of stuff they're doing for the money, and how they're guarding their method against Google. I suspect their outsourcing cost for providing that service was at least $50, and it'd take me several times my investment to get there myself (even disregarding site and network building).
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jerrodrobker

11 years ago

You can use a SEO service.It'll help you to rank higher very well.

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Mark Mazza

11 years ago

I just signed up for seogear.com which has a special wso price. Seems like a lot of people talking good things about it and it's only $29 a month. I have not started using it yet as I am working on my content, but hopefully by the end of the week.

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SEWARRIOR

11 years ago

If you are serious about Seo for your site. Try learn basic of linkbuilding and start using SEO Tool.
Basic understand help you a lot. Cheap service may not be good bet.

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Slade556

11 years ago

Originally Posted by trevstar22

I saw ads for miramarone.com/ come up and they promised excellent results for only $29 a month,
but I checked and found that their country of origin was masked and there were a couple of ripoff reports on them, but I think something around that cost would be reasonable.

The reason why good SEO services cost a lot more than $29 is that a SEO expert who will actually deliver results has to do a lot of research, a lot of testing, put in a lot of work, keep up with everything new, ecc., ecc., all of which requires a lot of effort. And effort should be rewarded, of course.

So, $29 is really not a reasonable price. Nobody will believe you can offer great service for such a price.

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