The Linkwheel Method - Is it white hat? Does it work? Are there risks?

by Pnigro
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So yeah, those are my questions.

For those who don't know what the Linkwheel method is: Money Ideas: Linkwheel Method

And the official site (you have to opt in): Linkwheel Explained

So my questions:

1) Is it white hat?
2) Does it work?
3) Are there risks in doing it?

Thanks!
#hat #linkwheel #method #risks #white #work
  • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
    Oops can a mod move this to the SEO forum please?
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    • Profile picture of the author Fondybadger
      Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

      Oops can a mod move this to the SEO forum please?
      no need to do that it is a SEO forums already!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. What risks could there be?
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    • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
      I don't know.

      I'm a complete SEO n00b but I've read that you "shouldn't link in circles".
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        That is why you should be in Jeremy's new SEO bootcamp bro ...

        no affiliate links man ... just recommending good stuff. It would be a wise initial investment in your IM future - its cheap and jam packed and done by two pro's who make solid full time earnings marketing. You'll learn A LOT.

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        Lionkswheels are awesome and safe

        Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

        I don't know.

        I'm a complete SEO n00b but I've read that you "shouldn't link in circles".
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Pnigro,

    I don't know where you heard or read that one, but I've been doing this type of linking for a long time now, and never ran ionto a problem one doing so. Matter of fact, this type of linking gets some of my best results - Well other than linking directly to a related high PR site or page.

    It's particularly good to get things indexed fast, for good listings, and for affiliate promotion.

    Hope this helps ...

    Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    If you are worried about linking in a circle, you can do the same thing, but don't close off the circle of the wheel (so just don't point your last site to your first one).

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  • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
    In the report that explains the Linkwheel it says:

    On Blogger.com and all the other free blogs you post to... with
    each new linkwheel, it's important to make a NEW blog entirely, as
    opposed to just making a new post on your existing blogs.
    You'll pretty much never have a blog with more than a single post.
    Often, on sites such as Livejournal and Blogsome for example, you
    need to create new accounts for each new blog.

    What's the reason for this?

    Is the keyword in the subdomain really that important?

    Isn't it better to keep adding content and pages to these web 2.0 blogs so they can rank better in Google?
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    • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
      Yes it works but I normally only do it once each time, so for a new site I might set-up a few properties promoting the site and then never do it again, so really I don't know the true ability of it, but really I don't think anyone needs to go to the trouble of wasting the time and energy on too many self built and self loaded feederpages. There are better ways :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
        Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

        There are better ways :-)
        Could you point me in that direction?
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        • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
          Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

          Could you point me in that direction?
          Dont chase ghosts in the machine with "some" of the recommendations you'll get here.

          What's the reason for this?

          Is the keyword in the subdomain really that important?

          Isn't it better to keep adding content and pages to these web 2.0 blogs so they can rank better in Google?
          Reasons: I suspect - due to the way these are being created - reduced footprints

          keyword in the domain important? yes - very much so. Whenever possible use it - it works.

          More content better? Sure ... but time is better spent creating backlinks to ALL of the structure vs. hopeing google bot wants to feast on your content. The notion is to Take CONTROL of the whole process as best you can and drive the bots TO you content and links

          the linkswheels are going to get you indexed and ranking with a big fresh content push. it may however be short lived. You then need to backfill all this with .... you guessed it - gobs of backlinks.

          But again, it depends on what your doing and what your competition is/will be.

          best of luck
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          • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
            4morereferrals thank you very much for your answer.

            There's something I didn't completely understand though:

            Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

            Reasons: I suspect - due to the way these are being created - reduced footprints
            What do you mean by that? Like less likely to get caught by Google?
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            • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
              Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

              4morereferrals thank you very much for your answer.

              There's something I didn't completely understand though:



              What do you mean by that? Like less likely to get caught by Google?
              If your wheel properties are linking to each other, you should not be targeting the same keyword.

              Sometime we use web 2.0 properties to create multiple listing, but if you link different page / site together and still targeting the same keyword, Google will determine which to show and only show 1 listing... Google knows!
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              • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
                Originally Posted by kkchoon View Post

                If your wheel properties are linking to each other, you should not be targeting the same keyword.

                Sometime we use web 2.0 properties to create multiple listing, but if you link different page / site together and still targeting the same keyword, Google will determine which to show and only show 1 listing... Google knows!
                So if I have 6 Web 2.0 properties linked in a circle sharing the same keyword in the title then I won't get duplicate listings?

                You sure?
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                • Profile picture of the author seo_genius
                  Linkwheel does work and it is real. I am a living testimony of this. I have made a linkwheel that pushed up the targeted site by up to 15 positions in 2 weeks. One of the Linkwheel properties, Prlog was also ranking first on Google's first page next to the main site I was targetting.

                  I agree that this works fine.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BenjaminGates
                    Originally Posted by seo_genius View Post

                    Linkwheel does work and it is real. I am a living testimony of this. I have made a linkwheel that pushed up the targeted site by up to 15 positions in 2 weeks. One of the Linkwheel properties, Prlog was also ranking first on Google's first page next to the main site I was targetting.

                    I agree that this works fine.
                    Thanks for your testimony. I should find out more about it and give a try.
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                • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
                  Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

                  So if I have 6 Web 2.0 properties linked in a circle sharing the same keyword in the title then I won't get duplicate listings?

                  You sure?
                  If you spin the title a bit, you won't risk some of your site drop for duplicate content.

                  OK, this is what I meant by duplicate content penalty, it exists on multiple listing for search result, not because you have duplicate article on your site will get you penalize, but the result, yes!
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        • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
          Originally Posted by Pnigro View Post

          Could you point me in that direction?
          It might take me all day long to explain it all.

          I have many different ways of avoiding making feeder pages, one feeder page that I will definately not avoid is an article.

          Sorry that it may take so long, but definately buddy, take a look around and read some information on building backlinks.

          Even check where your competitiors links come from, do everything it takes to make sure your valuable website doesnt get left behind.

          Best Wishes

          Intrepreneur.
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  • Profile picture of the author dunno
    link wheels are legit and human like although you will have to maintain building the wheel to stay on top of your competitors
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Just don't let google catch you "buying" links
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  • Profile picture of the author cheece2001
    so you pretty much make a link wheel with for example 5 web 2.0 sites each targeting a different keyword in your niche. and for those 5 sites you make a blog for each and just bookmark each 2.0 site. In the end you are still going to have to build links to these 2.0 sites. How is this of any improvment than just building 100s of hi pr links straight to your site for your main keywords and build more hi pr links to your inner pages for the long tale keywords ? is this the same thing? You are in the end building just links that have hi PR right. Isn't it all the same. I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you say it multiplies you results. ??? whaa? nothing gets muliplied...right? u still in the end have to build those links...right??
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    • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
      Originally Posted by cheece2001 View Post

      so you pretty much make a link wheel with for example 5 web 2.0 sites each targeting a different keyword in your niche. and for those 5 sites you make a blog for each and just bookmark each 2.0 site. In the end you are still going to have to build links to these 2.0 sites. How is this of any improvment than just building 100s of hi pr links straight to your site for your main keywords and build more hi pr links to your inner pages for the long tale keywords ? is this the same thing? You are in the end building just links that have hi PR right. Isn't it all the same. I don't understand what you guys are talking about when you say it multiplies you results. ??? whaa? nothing gets muliplied...right? u still in the end have to build those links...right??
      1. 5 web 2.0 sites targeting "long tail keywords"
      2. Make an article on each site with targeted the keyword
      3. Bookmark, submit RSS and building all kinds of High PR Links
      4. You can rank high very fast for "long tail keywords " web 2.0 properties, and get traffic in as fast as 7 days.
      5. You still need to build all your link resources to the main site.
      6. If you put all articles in your main site, it takes time to rank for those articles, the purpose of linkwheel has 2:
      • A) Get Traffic Fast
      • B) Get Instant Backlinks, and along with the link power you build on this site
      Another way of using linkwheel is targeting the same "long tail keyword" (no "s" here), but spin multiple version of the articles and put it on various web 2.0 sites, you will see multiple listing of your web 2.0 properties when you type in your keyword in Google!
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon
    Link wheels is a great way to build traffic, you can find more information here: Linkwheel 101
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