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Question on domains and hosting for PBNs

by juniorboys
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I know one of the most important things in PBN building is minimizing the footprint. I understand the concepts fairly well, but would love some clarification on just how diversified you need to be.

On the domain registrar side, I get that you don't just want one GoDaddy account and have ALL your domains there. What I gather is one domain per account. So:
  • GoDaddy account #1: one domain
  • GoDaddy account #2: one domain
  • NameCheap account #1: one domain
  • GoDaddy account #3: one domain
  • NameCheap account #2: one domain
Does that look about right?

On the hosting side, I understand you want to avoid your sites being on the same ip address C Block. Is the most sure-fire way to avoid this to do the same thing I outlined for domain registrars above? In other words:
  • HostGator account #1: one site
  • HostGator account #2: one site
  • BlueHost account #1: one site
  • HostGator account #3: one site
  • BlueHost account #2: one site
Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom!
#domains #hosting #pbn #pbn creation #pbns #question
  • Profile picture of the author fpforum
    I wouldn't say you need separate accounts for each domain, you just need separate whois information under each of those domains. Some registrars will let you setup multiple contact records and others will let you change the individual contact details of a specific domain. You don't need them in different accounts, you should just have different contact information listed for each.

    For hosting you're correct - Ideally you want them on different c-class IP's...the host itself doesn't really matter.

    Other people do things like use a separate admin username for each blog. Instead of being 'admin' on all sites..it might be 'admin' on one, 'jerry' on another, 'administrator' on another..etc. People also tend to use different themes on each site as well. Another thing is to make sure not every site is linking to the other. You might wanna mix it up..Website A links to B and C, but not D..Website B links to C and D, but not A...etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author juniorboys
      Originally Posted by fpforum View Post

      I wouldn't say you need separate accounts for each domain, you just need separate whois information under each of those domains. Some registrars will let you setup multiple contact records and others will let you change the individual contact details of a specific domain. You don't need them in different accounts, you should just have different contact information listed for each.
      Thanks, that's helpful! If you enable Whois privacy, then does the whois info even really matter? In that case could they all be bought under one Namecheap (for example) account?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I would be careful about using fake WhoIs information. ICANN is cracking down on that. If you were ever asked to provide ID information to confirm the info you made up, you could lose the domain.

    Myself, I have only been using Privacy and I do not create multiple accounts at registrars.

    I also stay away from using the same hosts unless I go back to the host months later. I do not want two sites on the same server.
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    • Profile picture of the author juniorboys
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I would be careful about using fake WhoIs information. ICANN is cracking down on that. If you were ever asked to provide ID information to confirm the info you made up, you could lose the domain.

      Myself, I have only been using Privacy and I do not create multiple accounts at registrars.
      Awesome info, thanks. Is it reasonable that as an precautionary measure I would spread out a bunch of domain names over 2 or 3 registrar accounts?

      Point taken on fake Whois info. Friend of mine tried to purchase a .uk address from the US, he provided GoDaddy with another friend's address who actually does live in the UK, and GoDaddy came back and asked him to fax over an ID to prove that was indeed his address! He lost the domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author danparks
    No need to create separate accounts at domain registrars. One account is fine.

    Domain privacy works fine.

    If you do create fake whois info for a domain, at least supply a real email account that you monitor. You can make a new yahoo/hotmail/whatever email account just for that domain, but note the log in info so you can monitor it. If asked to verify your whois info (and I have had that happen many times upon registering a new domain with fake info), you'll be asked to verify by email. If you entered a legitimate email account, you can confirm the info at the email they send you. What Mike said though still applies - if things get stricter in the future, there would be the possibility of you not being able to confirm whois info. I think before that happens though we'd have some kind of heads up that email alone won't be enough, and then we'd have time to go in and change whois info.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by danparks View Post

      if things get stricter in the future, there would be the possibility of you not being able to confirm whois info. I think before that happens though we'd have some kind of heads up that email alone won't be enough, and then we'd have time to go in and change whois info.
      There will not be a heads up or warning. Just listen to press coming out from ICANN. They are getting stricter. Hell, just 3 years ago, registrars pretty much never asked you to confirm anything. Now it is becoming a regular occurrence.

      If you are going to enter fake WhoIs info, I would not do it on a domain you care about or one you paid much money for. Do so at your own risk.

      If ICANN had their way, privacy would be gone and everything would have to be verified.

      https://www.respectourprivacy.com/
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