How to get second page keywords on first page

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Hello guys i have two keywords on second page. both have only 10 average searches on UK and they both have high competition. What activities should i perform now to get them on first page of google UK. Please explain them.

Spammers please stay away.

Thanks in advance guys,
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  • Profile picture of the author webby0031
    Get strong backlinks. Anyone who tells you different hasnt a clue
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    • Profile picture of the author Shirlyn
      Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

      Get strong backlinks. Anyone who tells you different hasnt a clue
      Backlinks from niche websites with high Domain Authority can help your keywords rank well in Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Anyone who gives you a simplistic answer without understanding the details of your situation doesn't have a clue.

    Yes, backlinks are one of the most important ways to rank, assuming they're relevant and high quality. The relevancy is one of the important factors many people miss - when a page links to yours that also has the keywords your attempting to rank for (or LSI phrases) it makes your page more likely to rank than just getting a good quality link alone.

    You should also have a look at the page or pages that you have ranking currently and make sure you have them optimized for your keywords. Google is getting better and better at figuring out what's on a site without you specifically telling it, but it's by no means perfect. If you're sending mixed signals with your title, header tags, and content that could be keeping you from making the ranks you want to.

    I would check your onsite first and then do some linkbuilding, assuming you have something linkable.

    Without taking a look at your site and your keywords there's not a huge amount of specific advice anyone can offer.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan1234
      Originally Posted by dave_hermansen View Post

      Anyone who gives you a simplistic answer without understanding the details of your situation doesn't have a clue.

      Yes, backlinks are one of the most important ways to rank, assuming they're relevant and high quality. The relevancy is one of the important factors many people miss - when a page links to yours that also has the keywords your attempting to rank for (or LSI phrases) it makes your page more likely to rank than just getting a good quality link alone.

      You should also have a look at the page or pages that you have ranking currently and make sure you have them optimized for your keywords. Google is getting better and better at figuring out what's on a site without you specifically telling it, but it's by no means perfect. If you're sending mixed signals with your title, header tags, and content that could be keeping you from making the ranks you want to.

      I would check your onsite first and then do some linkbuilding, assuming you have something linkable.

      Without taking a look at your site and your keywords there's not a huge amount of specific advice anyone can offer.

      Good luck.
      You're right. We should take it in account that site chosen for back link should be relevant to our website. Otherwise there's no use of back link.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

    Hello guys i have two keywords on second page. both have only 10 average searches on UK and they both have high competition. What activities should i perform now to get them on first page of google UK. Please explain them.

    Spammers please stay away.

    Thanks in advance guys,
    You're doing it bassakwards, learn keyword research & size up the competition first.

    Example, only a moron new to SEO would try to rank for auto insurance, but that same noob could probably pull off ranking for low cost auto insurance blemond iowa. The longtail example probably has 3 searches per year, my point is size up competition to match your own skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author baljeet
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You're doing it bassakwards, learn keyword research & size up the competition first.

      Example, only a moron new to SEO would try to rank for auto insurance, but that same noob could probably pull off ranking for low cost auto insurance blemond iowa. The longtail example probably has 3 searches per year, my point is size up competition to match your own skills.
      I want to tell you that i have not suggested these keywords to the client. He has asked me to get these keywords on the top.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

        I want to tell you that i have not suggested these keywords to the client. He has asked me to get these keywords on the top.
        Good grief.

        That's your own fault for taking a job you can't do.
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        • Profile picture of the author baljeet
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post


          That's your own fault for taking a job you can't do.
          I am the person who got this keywords on second page from no where.
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  • Profile picture of the author KHR
    Increase Your PA, DA. Google Prefer High PA, DA sites for showing them in SERP.

    Get Links from High PA, DA Sites. Guest Post is Really Great for this but Not Additional Spammy Guest Blog.

    Choose the High DA, PA Guest Site in Your Niche. Then Contact to Admin/ Site Owner If the Accept Article & make a Deal in Your Own Way.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by KHR View Post

      Increase Your PA, DA. Google Prefer High PA, DA sites for showing them in SERP.

      Get Links from High PA, DA Sites. Guest Post is Really Great for this but Not Additional Spammy Guest Blog.

      Choose the High DA, PA Guest Site in Your Niche. Then Contact to Admin/ Site Owner If the Accept Article & make a Deal in Your Own Way.

      Forget PA & DA.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by KHR View Post

      Increase Your PA, DA. Google Prefer High PA, DA sites for showing them in SERP.
      No, that's completely backwards. DA and PA are 3rd party estimation of what might be a strong site, and it's not rare that Google completely disagrees with Moz. It should be obvious that Google does use this metric.

      Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

      I want to tell you that i have not suggested these keywords to the client. He has asked me to get these keywords on the top.
      It's part of being a SEO to tell a client that a project is very hard or not within their reach. You can't just blindly accept every project.
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      • Profile picture of the author baljeet
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        It's part of being a SEO to tell a client that a project is very hard or not within their reach. You can't just blindly accept every project.


        What if client also knows the basics of SEO and he just force us to do what he wants.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

          What if client also knows the basics of SEO and he just force us to do what he wants.
          First, they do not. If they're requesting a very competitive keyword they clearly have no idea what they're dealing with, or they'd be happy to pay your quote for some serious link building. Second, force you? If you're being held captive alert the local authorities. You can always walk away from a rotten deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmberWhite
    Hi, by understanding your situation i want to give some ideas, first check the landing page of the ranking keyword for an optimization like image optimization, keyword or content duplication and page loading time if this all were fine then you must concentrate on building quality links to this particular page for the specific keywords. If you follow this you will get rank easily in the first page.
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  • Profile picture of the author richasharma
    do SEO activities, since the keyword you used is of high competition so it will take time to get targeted fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnSwail
    As per my experience in this market you need to focus on content marking with high quality and unique content. first you need to publish on high PR article and blog directories then promote these all through social media site so that these all indexed proper and get awareness in the market. It's help to boost ranking of the keywords second to 1st.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by KHR View Post

      Increase Your PA, DA. Google Prefer High PA, DA sites for showing them in SERP.

      Get Links from High PA, DA Sites. Guest Post is Really Great for this but Not Additional Spammy Guest Blog.

      Choose the High DA, PA Guest Site in Your Niche. Then Contact to Admin/ Site Owner If the Accept Article & make a Deal in Your Own Way.
      You are an absolute idiot if you believe that.

      Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

      I want to tell you that i have not suggested these keywords to the client. He has asked me to get these keywords on the top.
      Originally Posted by baljeet View Post

      What if client also knows the basics of SEO and he just force us to do what he wants.
      If you do not know how to move keywords from the second page to the first page, YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING ON CLIENTS!

      Refund their money and learn how to do the freaking job. Stop stealing.
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      • Profile picture of the author KHR
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        You are an absolute idiot if you believe that.
        Do you Know & Believe, High Quality Links Increase Ranking ?

        You Should Know: All Links from High Quality Sites are High Quality Links & All High Quality Sites Are High PA, DA.

        You should Believe this: 1 Links from High Quality Site = More Than 100-1000+ Low Quality Site Links.

        See This & Think: huffingtonpost.com is a High Quality Site And Its PA=95, DA=98.
        If you get any links from here, This is True Its 1000 Times better Than 100K Web 2 & Low Quality Links.

        Do not Consider only PR. Bcoz Google do not update PR early, as far as I know lastly updated in December 2013. I see many High PR Site having Tons of Spammy Backlinks now a days. When Google Updated PR,site was not spammy. And also Google was not so Smart like now. I am sure, if you get links from that spammy sites, your site will not Rank & you may get penalty.

        But Moz Update DA, PA so early, So you can Easily Understand about the Recent Site Quality. If the Site Quality is Good, Google must like it and Moz will Increase it's DA & PA.

        Thats why I said, Get Links from High PA, DA sites. I just use it as a Scale. And I know google do not care about & follow the Moz's PA, DA Metrics. But Both Google & Moz Care About the Quality.

        Hope you understand and Now you will not argue about it like an Idiot.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by KHR View Post

          Do you Know & Believe, High Quality Links Increase Ranking ?

          You Should Know: All Links from High Quality Sites are High Quality Links & All High Quality Sites Are High PA, DA.

          You should Believe this: 1 Links from High Quality Site = More Than 100-1000+ Low Quality Site Links.

          See This & Think: huffingtonpost.com is a High Quality Site And Its PA=95, DA=98.
          If you get any links from here, This is True Its 1000 Times better Than 100K Web 2 & Low Quality Links.

          Do not Consider only PR. Bcoz Google do not update PR early, as far as I know lastly updated in December 2013. I see many High PR Site having Tons of Spammy Backlinks now a days. When Google Updated PR,site was not spammy. And also Google was not so Smart like now. I am sure, if you get links from that spammy sites, your site will not Rank & you may get penalty.

          But Moz Update DA, PA so early, So you can Easily Understand about the Recent Site Quality. If the Site Quality is Good, Google must like it and Moz will Increase it's DA & PA.

          Thats why I said, Get Links from High PA, DA sites. I just use it as a Scale. And I know google do not care about & follow the Moz's PA, DA Metrics. But Both Google & Moz Care About the Quality.

          Hope you understand and Now you will not argue about it like an Idiot.



          Only an idiot would chase homemade metrics (DA/PA).
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by KHR View Post

          Do you Know & Believe, High Quality Links Increase Ranking ?

          You Should Know: All Links from High Quality Sites are High Quality Links & All High Quality Sites Are High PA, DA.

          You should Believe this: 1 Links from High Quality Site = More Than 100-1000+ Low Quality Site Links.

          See This & Think: huffingtonpost.com is a High Quality Site And Its PA=95, DA=98.
          If you get any links from here, This is True Its 1000 Times better Than 100K Web 2 & Low Quality Links.

          Do not Consider only PR. Bcoz Google do not update PR early, as far as I know lastly updated in December 2013. I see many High PR Site having Tons of Spammy Backlinks now a days. When Google Updated PR,site was not spammy. And also Google was not so Smart like now. I am sure, if you get links from that spammy sites, your site will not Rank & you may get penalty.

          But Moz Update DA, PA so early, So you can Easily Understand about the Recent Site Quality. If the Site Quality is Good, Google must like it and Moz will Increase it's DA & PA.

          Thats why I said, Get Links from High PA, DA sites. I just use it as a Scale. And I know google do not care about & follow the Moz's PA, DA Metrics. But Both Google & Moz Care About the Quality.

          Hope you understand and Now you will not argue about it like an Idiot.
          I do believe that high quality links increase rankings. I do not believe what you said though which was...

          Increase Your PA, DA. Google Prefer High PA, DA sites for showing them in SERP.
          That is nonsense. Google does not care about PA or DA. There are plenty of great links you can get that don't fit in your silly little box.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by KHR View Post

          I see many High PR Site having Tons of Spammy Backlinks now a days. When Google Updated PR,site was not spammy. And also Google was not so Smart like now. I am sure, if you get links from that spammy sites, your site will not Rank & you may get penalty.
          I'd suggest some proofreading. Do you even understand this rambling nonsense yourself? Couple of years ago a site was not spammy, but now that Google is doing a better job they suddenly are?

          Originally Posted by KHR View Post

          But Moz Update DA, PA so early, So you can Easily Understand about the Recent Site Quality. If the Site Quality is Good, Google must like it and Moz will Increase it's DA & PA.
          I've got no idea what that means, especially the "so early" and "recent site quality" parts.

          Moz has blogged about their methodology which involved "seeding" their algorithm with manually picked strong sites. It's very far from what Google seems to use, and that way of building the algorithm depended on something else to exist first.

          "Site quality" is such a vague phrase that it means absolutely nothing. From Google's POV there's much more to it that just backlinks passing spam check.

          Originally Posted by KHR View Post

          Hope you understand and Now you will not argue about it like an Idiot.
          Yes, I'm sure everyone can see that it's your preferred method.
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      • Profile picture of the author baljeet
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        If you do not know how to move keywords from the second page to the first page, YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING ON CLIENTS!
        Thank you very much for this really helpful reply. If you can not help me with my question than why are you replying. If you guys can not help anyone then why you ask experts yourselves. Everyone can have problems in a campaign. For your better understanding i should make it clear that i am the person who got these keywords to the second page of Google from no where. Got it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mehwish84
    No one can tell you because no one know your niche by the A deep competitor analysis will help you a lot,analyze your top competitors see the drawback they have made,take benefit of it and correct your weakness
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Hardy
    getting first page is not that easy when u have problems with your site or content google analysis every thing to give u rank so be careful and do seo according to the latest algorithms u will get automatically but it takes time u have to wait no excuse for that........
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  • Profile picture of the author tbsnetworks
    do focus keyword and perform link building on that keyword simply you ranked on first page. and you have unique content on your page.
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  • Profile picture of the author ldiaz117
    This thread sums up SEO in a nutshell. There is no one definitive answer. Different people see results from different techniques.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by ldiaz117 View Post

      This thread sums up SEO in a nutshell. There is no one definitive answer. Different people see results from different techniques.
      Unfortunately it's your comment that sums up nonsense SEO. There's very much a definitive answer here: do your homework, and get more decent backlinks.

      For some reason people like to read threads so that there's much controversy or mystery when there's a couple of guys who actually know something, and a bunch of clueless one-line wonders and sig spammers who just smash their keyboards and produce random garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    It's simple, you need to have higher relevance & page/domain/link/social authority than those on page 1, the reason you're not on page 1 is because there's 10 sites that have more overall authority and relevance than you do...
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisjohn93
    Post high quality and informative articles to High authority website try to some articles on your website's blog too. Don't Forget to share those articles on Social Media to get little traffic to your post. This will boost your ranking.

    Hope this will help you out...
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