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11 years ago

@johnsonwilliam, When it come to SEO, Backlinks Quality always rules over quantity. if you want to outrank your competitor try to get links from their backlink sources or try to get from new quality sources.

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Isaiah Coe

11 years ago

Here is a few things you can do.

- Drip Feed Social Signals
- Drip Feed Blog Comments
- Get a PR service for branded links
- Keep doing what your doing and give it time

And I second what Sohel said.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by johnsonwilliam

How can i improve my position in first page? Total Back link 30 but my competitor only 10

I guess this is another proof that backlinks are totally useless when it comes to SERP

Advice:
Forget backlinks, improve CONTENT

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

I guess this is another proof that backlinks are totally useless when it comes to SERP

Advice:
Forget backlinks, improve CONTENT

Saw your delightfully sarcastic reply to another thread, so I'm not quite sure if that's your goal here... Yeah, no morning coffee yet.

I'd not advice anyone to forget backlinks, but staring at the total number of backlinks doesn't help. You need backlinks that pass juice, not just any backlinks. I can't stress how important this is if there's even a modicum of competition.

Originally Posted by Isaiah Coe

- Drip Feed Social Signals
- Drip Feed Blog Comments

This is pointless if you're interested in backlinks that matter. Doing them slowly doesn't really add anything.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

I'd not advice anyone to forget backlinks, but staring at the total number of backlinks doesn't help. You need backlinks that pass juice, not just any backlinks. I can't stress how important this is if there's even a modicum of competition.

The only backlinks you need are the one that direct people to your site like in my signature.

If backlinks have any value then explain to me why Google wants nofollow tags?
Why Google is penalizing sites with multiple backlinks?
Why Google wants people to remove backlinks from their sites and to help them created "special tool" to report sites refusing to remove backlinks?

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

The only backlinks you need are the one that direct people to your site like in my signature.

You're wrong. That's the most polite way I can answer to that.

Even social signal apologists like Moz acknowledge that backlinks are important. You don't need to do much reading to reach this conclusion. Do you have any concrete evidence for your stance?

Originally Posted by fastreplies

If backlinks have any value then explain to me why Google wants nofollow tags?
Why Google is penalizing sites with multiple backlinks?
Why Google wants people to remove backlinks from their sites and to help them created "special tool" to report sites refusing to remove backlinks?

I'm still not quite sure if you're being serious about this topic. Are you just pulling our leg, or are you truly this confused?

Google started using nofollow because the web started to have a lot of user-provided content and thus user-provided backlinks. It's beneficial from their point of view to note which of the links are sort of approved by the organization, and which are just something random that anyone can post.

Google isn't "penalizing sites with multiple backlinks" in any meaningful sense of that phrase. Sure, they may penalize sites with a load of spammy backlinks, but that's completely different matter. All major sites have a load of low-quality backlinks, but that's not affecting them in most cases.

The disavow tool is there to tell Google that you don't know what the link is about, or that you don't just want it. I'm sure it was partly done to sort of wash their hands of the "negative SEO" phenomenon. You know, it doesn't have to be the webmaster or SEO of the site who's posting a ton of bad links to a site. They've added a tool, and they can carry on their merry way. Too bad it's pretty hard to use the tool to disavow any nontrivial number of bad links that come to bite you...

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Even social signal apologists like Moz acknowledge that backlinks are important. You don't need to do much reading to reach this conclusion.

Well, snake oil salesman as long as he can sale a bottle will swear on his life
that his product will revive dead horse the same way SEO Pro will give you
song and dance making you to believe that he have the answer for your SERP...
oh wait, answer you will get from clairvoyant, SEO holds keys to Google's algo
and if you pay him enough, he will make you rich... oops, that would be astrologist...

BTW, I have bridge for sale. Interested?

Originally Posted by nettiapina

Do you have any concrete evidence for your stance?

See above.

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Well, snake oil salesman as long as he can sale a bottle will swear on his life
that his product will revive dead horse the same way SEO Pro will give you
song and dance making you to believe that he have the answer for your SERP...
oh wait, answer you will get from clairvoyant, SEO holds keys to Google's algo
and if you pay him enough, he will make you rich... oops, that would be astrologist...

I'm not trying to sell anything, so I must assume that you're referring to yourself here. Indeed, this ludicrous notion that you hold is very similar to the one that the SEO snake oil salesmen commonly have.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

See above.

So you claim you're an astrologist? That's "interesting".

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

I'm not trying to sell anything, so I must assume that you're referring to yourself here. Indeed, this ludicrous notion that you hold is very similar to the one that the SEO snake oil salesmen commonly have.

Well, you're buying everything SEOs are selling for years now, what Moz said,
what Kumar posted in another thread instead of using common sense and a
basic logic, so, I won't even try to change your mind and let you to believe
that backlinks effect your SERP.

Good luck!

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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Well, you're buying everything SEOs are selling for years now, what Moz said,
what Kumar posted in another thread instead of using common sense and a
basic logic, so, I won't even try to change your mind and let you to believe
that backlinks effect your SERP.

And you're another one of these deeply dishonest commenters who haven't got anything to say, but post these asinine accusations. Your collective asses must be sore because you're pulling so much stuff out of them.

I'm not selling or buying anything, not literally or figuratively. Did you even think that you can back up such a blatant lie with something?

Did you not read how I described Moz? Do you really think that I fully agree with someone who I call "social signals apologist"? I have no idea who this Kumar is, but nobody with that name has said anything meaningful as far as I know.

You can't change anyone's mind if you don't have an argument to begin with. It doesn't help if your whole discussion is just a steady slide to non-coherence. You haven't said anything that even adheres to basic logic. In case you didn't read your own previous comment before posting, here's a summary: incoherent gibberish.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

incoherent gibberish.

Getting personal, eh?

Can you show me some proof that backlinks effect SERP?
But please spare me from Matt's or Google's BS about 1 of 200 signals Google uses
in its algo something it must to say to justify dead for 4 years now and decomposed,
totally useless PR

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DABK

11 years ago

I currently have 9 sites in the mortgage industry. One is on page 1 for many keywords. The others are on pages 4-12.

The one that is on page 1 has backlinks. The other ones do not.

The content is equivalent. The sites were made from the same template by me, the same way.

The one that ranks is competing for more competitive keywords (bigger city, more money to be made by being #1), then all the other ones.

Since the only difference is backlinks, I've concluded that backlinks make a site go up in rankings.

Can you show proof that that's not the case?

And don't give me bull about ignoring Google's rules and using your common sense. Show me real proof.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Getting personal, eh?

Can you show me some proof that backlinks effect SERP?
But please spare me from Matt's or Google's BS about 1 of 200 signals Google uses
in its algo something it must to say to justify dead for 4 years now and decomposed,
totally useless PR

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Originally Posted by DABK

And don't give me bull about ignoring Google's rules and using your common sense. Show me real proof.

That's easy... here is your answer

Originally Posted by DABK

The one that ranks is competing for more competitive keywords (bigger city, more money to be made by being #1), then all the other ones.

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nahidhasan2025 11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Getting personal, eh?

Can you show me some proof that backlinks effect SERP?

It's not a tough job to prove it. Even you can do it yourself. Just start with any of your website. Check their current rank for you keywords. then do nothing for next one month. After one month check their rank again.

Now create good backlinks for these sites, mostly contextual backlinks for next one month. And then check the rank again. Now compare the rank stats. Hope you will get the prove unless you are doing something spammy.

Backlinks are still very much important. But these days quality plays the role over quantity.
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nettiapina

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Getting personal, eh?

No. That merely summarizes post number #9.

Care to explain why you constantly feel the need to claim that I think something that I don't? That's about the only thing you've done here.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Can you show me some proof that backlinks effect SERP?

Take a backlink checker and find any competitive ranking, and go from there. This is something that's completely obvious if you even look at how Google search results work. It's not something mystical or magical.

Heck, I just did this in another thread, but decided against posting a screenshot because it's simple enough for anyone to do.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

But please spare me from Matt's or Google's BS about 1 of 200 signals Google uses
in its algo something it must to say to justify dead for 4 years now and decomposed,
totally useless PR

I of course realize that this "200 factors" speak is ancient, and at the time it was meant as an ballpark figure of the complexity of their algo. I've repeatedly tried to debunk this piece of crap on this forum.

But hey, why bother with facts when you can just dream up these stances that your straw man figure holds.

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ranksonic

11 years ago

I would not rely on backlinks only. SEO is still a compilation of methods. Don't get stuck on yours and your competitor's backlink quantity. Check other aspects. Content, load speed, some technical parameters and so on. There are a lot of factors that can be cause of your lower ranking.

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Deborah English

11 years ago

Try to put more fresh content and build do-follow backlinks and also create web 2.0 for this page.

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Aur1mas

11 years ago

The only way that I see is working even harder on your SEO, You should probably increase your budget that you've been used to spent on it

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vithobaaseo

11 years ago

do write good quality contents for that particular keyword and do content marketing/promotion, also you can promote it through social medias, slideshares, infography etc...Nowadays backlinks counts does not play a major role. Try to get backlinks from very good,high DA, relevant sites.. Do Local lisings, busiess listing it can easily bring your keywords to top of search..