Is page rank out of google now.

11 years ago

I hate to answer India spamzola, but no.

Google's PageRank is alive and well.
It gets updated daily.

Anyone who follows with nonsense about it
not mattering, or even done away with, is
blowing as much smoke as these spammers.

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mringtone 11 years ago

@paulgl watever.... Keep posting it.
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footfoot

11 years ago

yes along with the Shakespeare theory of spamming:
To spam or not to spam, that is the question;
whether 'tis nobler in the mind to spam....

TS must read Shakespeare.

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patco

11 years ago

Originally Posted by footfoot

yes along with the Shakespeare theory of spamming:
To spam or not to spam, that is the question;
whether 'tis nobler in the mind to spam....

TS must read Shakespeare.

Lol, interesting idea.. to change the Shakespeare's words and use the word SPAM... Lol. Good one!

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sparrow

11 years ago

Within Google pagerank is alive and well but is not the dominating factor anymore

just look at the serps

brands and authority sites rule the rankings now for the most common keywords
since we no longer have any reliable info from Google
we are left only attempts by 3rd party metrics

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DABK

11 years ago

How do you know it's not the dominating factor? If they're not making it public.

Originally Posted by sparrow

Within Google pagerank is alive and well but is not the dominating factor anymore

just look at the serps

brands and authority sites rule the rankings now for the most common keywords
since we no longer have any reliable info from Google
we are left only attempts by 3rd party metrics

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yukon Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

How do you know it's not the dominating factor? If they're not making it public.

Yea, Pagerank on followed backlinks is still the strongest ranking factor. Obviously public PR isn't updated anymore but there's still ways to check authority for backlink pages & no it's not that stupid moz junk (PA/DA).
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DABK

11 years ago

I still want Sparrow to tell me how he knows Page Rank is not the dominant factor.
"just look at the serps

brands and authority sites rule the rankings now for the most common keywords"

I look at that and I still see that if I get a backlink from a page with PR 3 I get a bigger boost than if I get one from a page with PR1.

Originally Posted by yukon

Yea, Pagerank on followed backlinks is still the strongest ranking factor. Obviously public PR isn't updated anymore but there's still ways to check authority for backlink pages & no it's not that stupid moz junk (PA/DA).

Originally Posted by sparrow

Within Google pagerank is alive and well but is not the dominating factor anymore

just look at the serps

brands and authority sites rule the rankings now for the most common keywords
since we no longer have any reliable info from Google
we are left only attempts by 3rd party metrics

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paulgl

11 years ago

People do not know the difference in public and private.

Since google makes current PR private, they say it went away.

They think that means PR has been discontinued.

PR gets updated daily.

Google and the herd mentality go hand in hand.

They have gotten herds to:

Use nofollow.
Use disavow.
Forget PR.

My, my, my. Isn't it amazing that all 3 have nothing in common except backlinks.

PR matters and backlinks are king.

I truly believe it was the hiding of PR that separated the SEO men from the boys.

Other than changing the logo, privatizing PR was the biggest change they ever did.

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danparks

11 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

People do not know the difference in public and private.

Since google makes current PR private, they say it went away.

They think that means PR has been discontinued.

PR gets updated daily.

I truly believe it was the hiding of PR that separated the SEO men from the boys.

It's actually worse then separating SEO men from boys. More like separating SEO children from infants. When you put your hand in front of an object, an infant thinks the object is gone forever. By a few years of age, the child will realize the object is only hidden, but is really still there.

The very first time an SEO read that "Google hides the public display of PR, but still relies on PR privately because PR is still a huge part of their ranking algorithm" the SEO should have thought "Oh, that makes perfect sense."

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Does anyone search for pakistani rigntones?

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paulgl 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Does anyone search for pakistani rigntones?

With limited electricity and spotty internet uptime, one must prioritize.
Spam, scam, worm,.....or ringtones?

The first PC virus originated in pakistan. One must prioritize.

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Kherk Roldan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by mringtone

Did google removed the page rank theory ?

Google STOP producing PR since 2013, so the game is change now

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nettiapina 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kherk Roldan

Google STOP producing PR since 2013, so the game is change now

They stopped displaying Pagerank publicly. They did not stop using it as far as anyone can tell.

Originally Posted by sparrow

Within Google pagerank is alive and well but is not the dominating factor anymore

brands and authority sites rule the rankings now

Isn't Pagerank the exact thing that keeps brands and authority sites at the top? They're there because of the backlink profiles.
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- Kherk Roldan 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nettiapina
  
  They stopped displaying Pagerank publicly. They did not stop using it as far as anyone can tell.
  
  so the are doing it privately? why?
  
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  nettiapina 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kherk Roldan
  
  so the are doing it privately? why?
  
  The PR started to be more problematic than useful. People read way too much to it. PR was very often also faked (by redirecting the domain to a strong site for a while). You still see domains that have been assigned fake PR tossed around in IM circles.
  
  Added: and it's not only those obviously fake PR9s that you see advertised in signatures. Even PR4 was faked because it's much easier to sell.
  
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  DABK 11 years ago
  
  Yes. Because they caught on that people were using PR to manipulate rankings, which means website that shouldn't be ranking (poor quality content, good SEO) were started to rank... and Google was going to lose money. Google can't lose money, mon! Bryn has expensive tastes.
  
  Originally Posted by Kherk Roldan
  
  so the are doing it privately? why?
  
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  paulgl 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kherk Roldan
  
  so the are doing it privately? why?
  
  The same way every company does things privately: They don't want to give away
  secrets.
  
  Google's entire search algorithm starts with PageRank.
  For now, it's even patented.
  
  Don't be fooled that somehow google has not fiddled with PageRank.
  They have made many tweaks. But all of those tweaks are about
  backlinks. What's in, what's out. How to gauge, trust, evaluate, etc.
  
  I'm too lazy to lookup if/when the patent expires, but it makes no difference.
  
  It's basic a logarithmic scale. I'm sure the original equation has been
  tweaked, along with the other changes.
  
  Nobody knows.
  
  People think PR is the end all. It's not. It's like fantasy football.
  The players must play.
  
  The best quarterback in the league does not always win, complete
  every pass, etc. Just look at Aaron Rodger's last game.
  
  Sometimes, in the area of search, there are others that play a
  particular game, at any given place or time, better.
  
  Going to back to Rodgers. Does one loss mean he's done?
  That now he's a lousy QB? Of course not.
  
  Now if you were going to start a football team, what group of
  QBs would you select from? Your local high school, pop warner?
  Of course not. And that's where PR comes in. PR defines the group
  from which the winners will be drawn from.
  
  It does not, by itself, define a winner. But PR whittles the group
  down further and further, up until a clear winner is chosen.
  
  Why would you not want to be in the highest group?
  
  We might not know current PR, but we sure should know how
  to get good links.
  
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counter2015

11 years ago

Yes google is no more updating that try PA/DA or CF instead

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cbpayne 11 years ago

Originally Posted by counter2015

Yes google is no more updating that try PA/DA or CF instead

Why? NO search engine uses PA, DA or CR as a metric in their ranking algorithms. Care to explain your answer?
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chrisjohn93 11 years ago

Originally Posted by counter2015

Yes google is no more updating that try PA/DA or CF instead

PA/DA is not updated by Google because PA/DA is introduce by Moz not Google.
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shuvoimtiaz

11 years ago

Google last published their page rank on 6 December 2013. Since then, there is no sign of PR update. You can simply go for Domain Authority metrics from MOZ. This is the latest and widely used alternative to Google Page Rank.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by shuvoimtiaz

Google last published their page rank on 6 December 2013. Since then, there is no sign of PR update. You can simply go for Domain Authority metrics from MOZ. This is the latest and widely used alternative to Google Page Rank.

It's called herd mentality.

What's funny is a lot of IMers can't see the sales funnel.

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mringtone

11 years ago

And what about good pr anchor links created in a very small frame of time. like 3 or 4 links from pr 2, to a website which is pr1 or pr0. Does search engine put them in spam or it takes time for them to be read and displayed accordingly.

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DABK

11 years ago

Why on earth is getting 3 or 4 links from any kind of site going to be spam based on when they were acquired?

If that were the case, nothing that goes viral would ever be found at the top of search results.

Originally Posted by mringtone

And what about good pr anchor links created in a very small frame of time. like 3 or 4 links from pr 2, to a website which is pr1 or pr0. Does search engine put them in spam or it takes time for them to be read and displayed accordingly.

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mringtone

11 years ago

Yeah but at times like young websites, 2 or 3 months old linked with pr 2 in their footer or in the side bar as partners links. Sending back 100s of links in the webmaster. Isn't all this process done in short time frame will be considered spam, where as the viral post are the post who's one particular url's are in linked . May be i am wrong here, that's why i'm here

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oceanbluedigital

11 years ago

Page Rank is last updated in 2013. After that we didn't seen any update in it. Officially there is no news regarding Page Rank.

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conscolor

11 years ago

Century CE question

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DrForum

11 years ago

Removing page ranks from google is something the multimillionaire tech company cant risk doing. It is through this ranking that Google to get revenue that is through advertisement. After coming up with the mechanism to achieve Search Engine Optimization, people tried to come up with backdoor way of achieving the top position in the ranking.
Wat has really changed in SEO is the techniques used to achieve the above mentioned process. This is to curb the malice practices. Therefore, there is no way the page rank will be abolished. All you need to is learn the new ways of achieve website optimization.

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