Nofollow comments, is it worth?

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Hi warriors, As I know most blog comments are nofollow, is it worth our efforts in terms of seo? does it help to boost ranking?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by ogimasoida View Post

    Hi warriors, As I know most blog comments are nofollow, is it worth our efforts in terms of seo? does it help to boost ranking?
    No, it's not worth anything SEO related.
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  • Profile picture of the author mathompson
    in my opinion, it affects a little bit on seo
    its quality create for site smaller than dofollow comment
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by mathompson View Post

      in my opinion, it affects a little bit on seo
      its quality create for site smaller than dofollow comment
      Ok well, you're flat out wrong.

      Nofollow was created for the sole purpose of search engines knowing to ignore the links.

      Originally Posted by joeyJr View Post

      in my opinion,
      Nofollow backlink does not increase your web ratings!
      But the indispensable ingredient of backlinks! It keeps balance for your Do-No! The rate is 80% and 20%
      GG make an objective assessment of your Web site! also contributed to the diversification of backlinks! thanks
      Who feeds you guys this bullcrap? Your Do-No? Is that like my Pee-Pee? GG is looking for quality signals, nofollow links are the opposite of that. They don't hurt your site but there's no reason to build them. They do nothing.

      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Yes. Then, in the comment field, add a link to one of your posts. If the comment is relevant and useful, the owners will let the link slide a majority of the time. The name field is nofollow, the inserted link is followed.
      No. Not normally, that's pretty rare actually. If it's a WP site they would have to use a plugin to change the default behavior. Which would encourage spammers, so I don't see why anybody would do that.

      Originally Posted by Shine2314 View Post

      Yes. it help your ranking but only effect a little bit. It help your backlink look natural with search engine
      No. It doesn't "look natural" or anything else because search engines completely ignore them. Unless you use tools to build tons, in which case you're a spammer, and deserve to get penalized.

      • Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. However, experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. These studies reveal that Google does follow the link, but it does not index the linked-to page, though it might be in Google's index for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[9][10]
      • Yahoo! follows it, but excludes it from their ranking calculation.[citation needed]
      • Bing also follows it, but excludes it from their ranking calculation.[citation needed]
      So... If you geniuses want the crawlers to bash your site in, build a bunch of nofollows. How to get indexed in 30 seconds: I just saved you $2,000 on that course that scammer was promoting in the other thread because of wikipedia.org.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow

      What do you think it's a conspiracy or something? "WELL THEY SAY IT DOES NOTHING BUT ... I THINK IT DOES... BECAUSE... ALIENS..."
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      • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        No. Not normally, that's pretty rare actually. If it's a WP site they would have to use a plugin to change the default behavior. Which would encourage spammers, so I don't see why anybody would do that.
        It's only rare if you don't try it. Just because you "don't see why" doesn't mean it doesn't work, and that people don't do it. There's more nefarious ways to get your dofollow link from a blog comment, but people's panties got twisted the last time I posted it.
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          It's only rare if you don't try it. Just because you "don't see why" doesn't mean it doesn't work, and that people don't do it. There's more nefarious ways to get your dofollow link from a blog comment, but people's panties got twisted the last time I posted it.
          Actually I leave comments on high traffic sites periodically. But I'm not HIGH... I know that It does nothing for SEO. It's extremely rare to find a site worth a crap that has followed comments that isn't heavily moderated.

          Also, I really don't care what people do. I care about what works.

          Put the pipe down. Comment links don't do jack. If you think they do it's because you've never had a quality backlink from anywhere. With blackhat techniques you need thousands of links, that leaves a massive footprint, sooner or later the site will get deindexed when a manual reviewer comes by. If I want a link with no SEO value but drives traffic I'll post on a site that has traffic... There's billions on social media, no reason to go to some person's blog that gets 100UV/day and drop a link. It's a complete waste of time.

          Originally Posted by arpitamishra View Post

          Yeah they do help in ranking indirectly. NO follow comments diversify the link profile and make it more natural to google. That being said, you cant rank a site with no follow links alone.
          No. They don't. A bunch of comment backlinks isn't natural anyways.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Yes. Then, in the comment field, add a link to one of your posts. If the comment is relevant and useful, the owners will let the link slide a majority of the time. The name field is nofollow, the inserted link is followed.
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    in my opinion,
    Nofollow backlink does not increase your web ratings!
    But the indispensable ingredient of backlinks! It keeps balance for your Do-No! The rate is 80% and 20%
    GG make an objective assessment of your Web site! also contributed to the diversification of backlinks! thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Shine2314
    Yes. it help your ranking but only effect a little bit. It help your backlink look natural with search engine
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Shine2314 View Post

      Yes. it help your ranking but only effect a little bit. It help your backlink look natural with search engine
      irawr replied some clueless users above. That post should clear your confusion too. Are you unable to read, a bot, or just wilfully ignorant?
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      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        irawr replied some clueless users above. That post should clear your confusion too. Are you unable to read, a bot, or just wilfully ignorant?
        I edited that comment in.
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  • Profile picture of the author arpitamishra
    Yeah they do help in ranking indirectly. NO follow comments diversify the link profile and make it more natural to google. That being said, you cant rank a site with no follow links alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Originally Posted by irawr View Post

    Actually I leave comments on high traffic sites periodically. But I'm not HIGH... I know that It does nothing for SEO. It's extremely rare to find a site worth a crap that has followed comments that isn't heavily moderated.

    Also, I really don't care what people do. I care about what works.

    Put the pipe down. Comment links don't do jack. If you think they do it's because you've never had a quality backlink from anywhere. With blackhat techniques you need thousands of links, that leaves a massive footprint, sooner or later the site will get deindexed when a manual reviewer comes by. If I want a link with no SEO value but drives traffic I'll post on a site that has traffic... There's billions on social media, no reason to go to some person's blog that gets 100UV/day and drop a link. It's a complete waste of time.

    No. They don't. A bunch of comment backlinks isn't natural anyways.
    lmao, you don't get it. Sites can leave their links as nofollow in the comments, and you can still get a dofollow link. Your skills aren't up to snuff, I guess. And you don't need thousands of them either.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      lmao, you don't get it. Sites can leave their links as nofollow in the comments, and you can still get a dofollow link. Your skills aren't up to snuff, I guess. And you don't need thousands of them either.
      Show me a single site. 1...
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      lmao, you don't get it. Sites can leave their links as nofollow in the comments, and you can still get a dofollow link. Your skills aren't up to snuff, I guess. And you don't need thousands of them either.
      It sounds more like you're failing at the basic web tech, or talking about some very specific and limited scenario like commentluv (or what the heck it was called).

      In any case, Google is probably devaluing blog comments that have no proper nofollow attribute.
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      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        It sounds more like you're failing at the basic web tech, or talking about some very specific and limited scenario like commentluv (or what the heck it was called).

        In any case, Google is probably devaluing blog comments that have no proper nofollow attribute.
        I'm pretty sure he's talking about exploiting sites. And if he's not, this is a complete fail. The discussion here also isn't allowed and the sites that are vulnerable aren't going to fall into the category of "worth a crap." If they're vulnerable to those tricks then they're probably vulnerable to a lot of other stuff and I don't think I'd want a link on a site that isn't running an up to date CMS.

        I see this garbage in my server logs every single day, if this guy thinks this takes "skills" he's a complete idiot.

        Edit: like for example he posted a technique here, which doesn't work.

        Code:
        <a href="yourlink.com" title="your keywords" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
        I just wasted my time testing it. Thanks for the advice man! Going to be destroying Google rankings now!
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Originally Posted by irawr View Post

    I'm pretty sure he's talking about exploiting sites. And if he's not, this is a complete fail. The discussion here also isn't allowed and the sites that are vulnerable aren't going to fall into the category of "worth a crap." If they're vulnerable to those tricks then they're probably vulnerable to a lot of other stuff and I don't think I'd want a link on a site that isn't running an up to date CMS.

    I see this garbage in my server logs every single day, if this guy thinks this takes "skills" he's a complete idiot.

    Edit: like for example he posted a technique here, which doesn't work.

    Code:
    <a href="yourlink.com" title="your keywords" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
    I just wasted my time testing it. Thanks for the advice man! Going to be destroying Google rankings now!
    It's pointless with your arrogant, I know it all attitude. You're close, though.

    It's not exploiting sites either. It's not the commentluv / "Most Commented" plugins either. Those work great for finding targets, but not a requirement.

    Look at the code you produced. Is that the only way to get a link? Nope.

    I got warned the last time I posted it. If you weren't an arrogant douche, I'd PM you.

    It actually requires being on the same team as the webmaster, without them realizing you are. It's not blackhat.

    Could be considered grey if you're an uptight "whitehat".

    If you hit the nail on the head, I'll tell you. Notice how I say the "majority" of the time it gets by? There's your biggest hint.

    The fact that you've called me high, and an idiot makes me get more enjoyment out of this.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      It's pointless with your arrogant, I know it all attitude. You're close, though.
      You must realize how weak and defensive that sounds. The only thing that makes it worse is the fact that you said absolutely nothing convincing.

      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      I got warned the last time I posted it. If you weren't an arrogant douche, I'd PM you.

      It actually requires being on the same team as the webmaster, without them realizing you are. It's not blackhat.
      I'm not quite sure if you're using euphemism. On the same team as some random webmaster? That's not possible in most cases. If you're an author or user on the site that makes your argument instantly irrelevant because it's very much a limited scenario.

      And if you got warned on WF - a site that seems to have high tolerance for any kind of BS - you must've been posting exploits.

      Speaking of arrogant douches - well, lets just say that your comment showcases the biggest lack of self-awareness I've seen in the past week. And I'm active on YouTube.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      The fact that you've called me high, and an idiot makes me get more enjoyment out of this.
      Well you're not getting links from sites with 10k+ UV/D with tens of thousands of backlinks, in the body of the content above the fold by doing whatever it is you're doing. You know, Good Links? The goal of every SEO?

      Whatever you're doing it's a 100% complete waste of time.

      If the site ever grows into a serious site you're probably going to end up disavowing those nonsense links that didn't have any power to begin with.

      Google can tell it's a comment by the CSS classes and the fact that it's below the content.

      If you spent any amount of time trying to build a presentable site with mass appeal and tried working with media sites, sooner or later you would get a link from one of them, at which point, you would probably never do whatever it is you're doing ever again.

      Seriously, go buy some citations from a few sites like lifehacker and then tell me how you feel about your technique. I'm serious I don't care what it is. The sites you're getting them on are junk and their power is diminished by at least 90% bare minimum...

      But here's the thing, do you even have a site where you would want to invest money on real links? If the link profile is blasted with junk links you could get penalized and then the money you spent is all for nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    It's not an exploit. There's no defense here, either. I'm having fun messing with you at this point.

    I gave you hints. I'm not giving you the answer, because of your approach.

    Go play with the comments section, and try all the different ways you can get links.

    There's a dofollowed link in there, somewhere, somehow.

    Don't automatically disregard people, either. If you think you're the smartest person in the room, or something like that...

    If you really want the answer, go through my post history. It's on this site twice.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      It's not an exploit. There's no defense here, either. I'm having fun messing with you, at this point.
      You can keep this douchebaggery to yourself. Do you really think that I'm going to play these silly games just to get a link that worthless in any case? Even if you had found something the point is moot. You're spamming something that won't produce good backlinks.

      I have no idea what the bit about deleting my comment was supposed to mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    It wasn't you I was talking to. I mistook your last post for irawr posting.

    irawr, in his thinking he's high and mighty amused me. I got an even bigger laugh when they told me I'm wrong -- based on their hunch.

    The links are considered "notext". The methods of getting them are what got me warned.

    I taught people how to scale them, and the mods didn't appreciate it.

    If you know you're right, and someone tells you that you're wrong, and won't hear you out -- how do you tend to react? I get my money's worth, personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Sites with 10k+ unique views a day are the best targets.

    The links are working great, the proof is in the $$$$.

    I've never disavowed a link in my life, and won't be starting anytime soon.

    I don't use any CSS classes, either.

    Did you program Google's algorithms?

    You're proving you still don't understand how they're built.

    The fact you're calling them junk, and that only links above the fold are "good" tells me enough.

    I've already given you the blueprint to build them, you've just gotta be smart enough to put the pieces together.

    You're smarter than me, and I figured it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Sites with 10k+ unique views a day are the best targets.

      The links are working great, the proof is in the $$$$.

      I've never disavowed a link in my life, and won't be starting anytime soon.

      I don't use any CSS classes, either.

      Did you program Google's algorithms?

      You're proving you still don't understand how they're built.

      The fact you're calling them junk, and that only links above the fold are "good" tells me enough.

      I've already given you the blueprint to build them, you've just gotta be smart enough to put the pieces together.

      You're smarter than me, and I figured it out.
      Good for you. Great. I've got to get some things ready for my employees tomorrow. I'll be back later. Been doing SEO since before Google. So... I'm pretty sure I've got a handle on how Google works. If not, I'll call up an agency and they can sort it out for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      I don't use any CSS classes, either.
      So you don't actually run even a single site?

      Even if you simply misspoke irawr's point flew straight over your head.

      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Did you program Google's algorithms?
      No, and neither did you. That's not an argument, and not even a particularly good red herring. It's just the kind of "argumentation" you hear from children in kindergarten.

      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      The fact you're calling them junk, and that only links above the fold are "good" tells me enough.

      I've already given you the blueprint to build them, you've just gotta be smart enough to put the pieces together.
      If your links are in blog comments as you've said they are, the links are junk. On a weak page that has a lot of links, and probably devalued by Google. It's as simple as that.

      Calling it a blueprint just sounds delusional. Maybe you should get that WSO going.

      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      I was willing to let you pick my brain. For $250 an hour.
      Doesn't seem to be worth the cost in time it takes. I'd have to bill you for the time.

      But I guess you're posting just for shits and giggles in any case.
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      • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        So you don't actually run even a single site?

        Even if you simply misspoke irawr's point flew straight over your head.



        No, and neither did you. That's not an argument, and not even a particularly good red herring. It's just the kind of "argumentation" you hear from children in kindergarten.



        If your links are in blog comments as you've said they are, the links are junk. On a weak page that has a lot of links, and probably devalued by Google. It's as simple as that.

        Calling it a blueprint just sounds delusional. Maybe you should get that WSO going.



        Doesn't seem to be worth the cost in time it takes. I'd have to bill you for the time.

        But I guess you're posting just for shits and giggles in any case.
        Start at the top.

        I run 24 sites right now. I just sold 7 last week. Investors didn't have an issue with the links. My bank account, the IRS, and my attorney don't have any issues with them, either.

        irawr talked about using CSS classes in comments, and no, I do not do that to slide a link through.

        Second point, irawr talks as if he programmed Google's algorithms, and knows exactly what types of links work and what don't. The fact you couldn't see through that, and then referenced kindergarten, makes me wonder about your own comprehension levels.

        SEO isn't a black and white, works/doesn't work affair. If you hear someone talking like they wrote the algorithms, you're going to ask, too.

        I don't act like I have all the answers, or that I programmed the algorithms. It would be silly to tell someone they're wrong, when you have no proof. And then act like you're the almighty, all-knowing, only SEO that knows which links work. Haha. (Any resemblance in this thread?)

        The links are considered blog comments, and I can tell you that the posts and pages I create them on have ZERO to 4 or 5 outbound links, MAX. They cost less than building PBNs, and they're just as effective. (if not more, in terms of time and $$$ spent.)

        Just goes to show you're talking out of your ass, without a clue to what's going on. Do you really think this is 2010 again? I don't. I'm hanging out in 2016.

        No WSOs here. I make my money without having to sell people guides. Hence, why I gave the information away for free and got warned for it. What a coincidence.

        You are right, though. I'm posting for S&G's at this point. I am glad that ya'll are keeping this at the top, though. Saved me $20 in buying views. ;D

        If you really want to try to the strategy for yourself, you can dig through my post history and find out how to do it.

        You can't knock it, until you try it, though. At least, me being me, I wouldn't knock it if I didn't know for sure.

        It's a good thing I wouldn't call ya'll for consulting. I'd get told my links are bad, and it's time to disavow them all. Even though competitors email me, asking me what I'm doing -- because they've been #1 for years, until now.

        You'd have me laughing you off the phone, then calling you back to laugh at you some more. Hell, if it was a slow day, I'd probably call you back a third time, from a different number, just so you know how funny you are.

        So, kids, the moral of this story. If you're not getting links from Huffington Post, or Google News, your sites suck and you're a bad SEO.

        And ya'll wonder why nobody shares here anymore? The incessant circle jerk, prick measuring contest is out of control.

        Especially when you look through ya'lls posting history, and it's either going back and forth, filling the forum with useless posts, or you're spending your days telling people how bad they suck, and how their strategies will never work.

        irawr, you're one of the biggest offenders of telling people they suck, without actually providing value. I'd reassess myself.

        Yeah, I looked through ya'lls history. I'm having a hard time finding you guys providing value. It's easy to find you giving out your unwanted 2cents, though, turning threads upside down, acting like you've got all the answers.
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          irawr talked about using CSS classes in comments, and no, I do not do that to slide a link through.

          irawr, you're one of the biggest offenders of telling people they suck, without actually providing value. I'd reassess myself.

          Yeah, I looked through ya'lls history. I'm having a hard time finding you guys providing value. It's easy to find you giving out your unwanted 2cents, though, turning threads upside down, acting like you've got all the answers.
          Ok

          Since, apparently I have to lecture you like a student in order to "provide value" here you go:

          In the figure below is the comment section of a website, viewed in 3d based upon it's DOM. DOM stands for data object model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Object_Model and the elements are defined by the user.



          Most modern CMS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system) automatically set certain class elements like
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          Google and Microsoft are the providers of the two biggest search engine technologies today, and at least 90% of all web searches are based upon their technologies. Both companies have patents involving visually analyzing DOM and using that information as components of their page scoring algorithms. Bill Slawski wrote an article on the subject in March of 2008. The Importance of Page Layout in SEO - SEO by the Sea

          So considering the multiple patents involving visually analyzing a website two relatively safe assumptions can be made.

          #1 Google knows what author data and user data are and an attempt to confuse the algorythm will probably not achieve the desired results.

          #2 Any element on a webpage that is not rendered visually can be detected and will likely be completed ignored.

          Also, since Google has produced many patents in regards to how their search technology works, it's a safe assumption that one doesn't need the ability to design a search engine to be able to understand how it works. One simply needs the ability to read English.

          Since it's quite obvious that your "magic technique" doesn't actually utilize a nofollow comment, I'll refer to the topic of this thread, which is "Nofollow comments, is it worth?" It's completely understandable that you may be lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

          Edit: That's all I have time for during lunch.
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          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          irawr, you're one of the biggest offenders of telling people they suck, without actually providing value.



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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    My rates start at $250 / hour.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      The fact that you've called me high, and an idiot makes me get more enjoyment out of this.
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      My rates start at $250 / hour.
      If you can get yourself checked into rehab and pass a urine test I am looking to hire a couple of SEOs in the Cleveland area.

      To be really clear about this, whatever you're doing with comments, you won't be doing anything like that. Looking for people with experience doing outreach campaigns, particularly media outreach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    That's $250 an hour for consulting -- so you can learn the ways.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      That's $250 an hour for consulting -- so you can learn the ways.
      For links with out anchor texts...

      You're probably the worst scammer I've ever seen on these forums.

      Yeah I don't know, that one PBN guy claiming to make 100k a month with the fiverr comic sans logo was pretty bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    You've gotta sell something to scam people. I don't offer SEO services ... so ... where's the scam?

    Charging you $250 an hour for consulting? After talking to you, I'd probably double or triple that rate.

    Thanks for keeping this thread at the top, though. You helped me generate 3 copywriting leads.

    One's already showing promise at $2,500 for 15 emails. You may want to let them know I'm a scammer, though.

    Props to the best player on my team.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      You've gotta sell something to scam people.

      I don't offer SEO services, quite frankly, because of clients like you lol -- it pays better to do it for myself.

      There's a lot less hassle, too.
      Great, good for you. I don't care. You keep at it Tiger! Blast those no anchor text comment links with your technique that involves tricking the owner of the site to the moon!

      I don't believe a word you say and I would be willing to bet the 10k pages worth of content on my sites that your technique doesn't work or does basically nothing. Again, I asked you show 1 site where you did this on, you didn't, then you're telling me it's $250 an hour for consulting. So, no proof, now your asking for money, how is that not a scam?

      This thread was about nofollow comments, whatever the hell you are talking about is massively off topic. So there's already a pretty big disconnect with you and reality, I'm willing to bet that any respectable SEO will agree that this "technique" whatever the hell it is, does jack squat.

      And if I'm wrong, get rich off it and keep your mouth shut. If this really is some ninja tactic then why are your gums flapping about it?
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Thanks for keeping this thread at the top, though. You helped me generate 3 copywriting leads.

      One's already showing promise at $2,500 for 15 emails. You may want to let them know I'm a scammer, though.

      Props to the best player on my team.
      Hey man, No problem. Next time, just post about how you're ranking sites with Facebook Likes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Now you're just talking craziness.

    That $250/hr quote was for you, and you alone. You were curious about how I did it.

    I was willing to let you pick my brain. For $250 an hour.

    Like I said, I don't offer SEO services.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Originally Posted by ogimasoida View Post

    Hi warriors, As I know most blog comments are nofollow, is it worth our efforts in terms of seo? does it help to boost ranking?
    Blogs are online communities like forums.
    Here's a good read, keep in mind that it is not all about SEO and ranking.
    https://moz.com/blog/how-i-learned-t...e-the-nofollow
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  • Profile picture of the author wdcbangalore
    A no follow link is a link that doesn’t “point” to another site, the Links that “point” to another site are called do follow links.No follow links does'not help your page ranking for your site...
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by GabyLu View Post

      Charging you $250 an hour for consulting?
      I would charge that guy $250/h because he seems like a problematic customer. Ain't nobody got time for playing games.

      It's not that high for top-level consulting. A guy I know asks way above that for management consulting, but usually there's a lot of preparation involved in those cases.
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      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

      What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author rubelzain83
    As far as I know, It does not affect your rankings, but helps you maintain dofollow:Nofollow ration, which really helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Ya know what? Fxck it.

    You want a whitehat version?

    Find sites in your niche that have decent metrics, but don't seem to get much in the way of blog comments. This usually happens because the owner is a good writer, but doesn't do well engaging the readers. Regardless, they've left commenting open on their blogs.

    Now, find posts on their site with decent metrics. This means the posts have already been linked to by other people.

    Then, write up a 100-200 word short article that compliments (hell, even finishes) the post you're going to comment on.

    Make sure there's already an article on your site related to, or relevant to the post you're going to comment on.

    Include the short article you produced, and at the bottom, include a byline:

    "Man, I loved your work so much I added a post about it to my own site!"

    Something along those lines. Stroke their ego. It's not rocket science.

    Then, at the end, add a NAKED link to it, showing the blog owner where you created the post. Use your real name in the name field.

    7 times out of 10, the blog owner will leave your link intact, and you've achieved one of the few outbound links on a page with decent metrics.

    Oh, and you got a NOFOLLOW, along with a DOFOLLOW link that's surrounded by content, from a relevant page on a relevant site, that has relevant links pointing to it.

    But they're junk, though, right?

    If you want to skip past all the courting of the blog owner, there's other ways to slip the links in without the owner ever having a clue.

    That's where "notext" comes into play. It's a bit too advanced for this group, though. Ya'lls panties are too tight right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Never assume. You'll make an ASS out of U and ME. What you posted does make you appear smart, though. I liked the part where you thought you were going to educate me. ^_^

    And there's no magic technique. It's basic blog comment marketing.

    Comments aren't ignored. They're rendered as a part of the page, and when there is content surrounding a link, Google knows what the link is about. You just said that yourself.

    You know what Google also likes to see?

    Editorial links, surrounded by content, on sites that have relevant, trustworthy links pointing to them.

    Sorry you had to waste your time digging that up, it has nothing to do with whether or not a dofollow link in a blog comment is picked up and used to help determine rankings.

    All you've shown is that the algorithms know where on a page a link is located and that you're content wasting your time trying to prove me wrong.

    That whole "it's a safe assumption" thing is where you lost your credibility.

    Assuming DOES NOT equal doing, and testing it for yourself. Anyone can assume anything.

    In fact, it's how most hack job SEOs like to justify themselves in arguments -- in an effort to sound smarter than the person they're debating. Only, this time, it's not working lol

    We can keep this up all day, I love the free views. It's Monday, and I don't really feel like doing anything today.

    You're not helping yourself at all, at this point though. You damn sure haven't proven me wrong.

    That's why you reverted back to the "nofollow". You know, yourself, that you're full of shxt.

    Read my first response in the thread. And you say my comprehension levels aren't up to snuff.

    The fact that you're trying to argue that a strategy is wrong and doesn't work, without having tested it yourself, says everything that needs to be said in this thread.

    You also noticed how, in a community full of SEOs, you're the only person debating me?
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    • Profile picture of the author mkii
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Ya know what? Fxck it.

      You want a whitehat version?

      Find sites in your niche that have decent metrics, but don't seem to get much in the way of blog comments. This usually happens because the owner is a good writer, but doesn't do well engaging the readers. Regardless, they've left commenting open on their blogs.

      Now, find posts on their site with decent metrics. This means the posts have already been linked to by other people.

      Then, write up a 100-200 word short article that compliments (hell, even finishes) the post you're going to comment on.

      Make sure there's already an article on your site related to, or relevant to the post you're going to comment on.

      Include the short article you produced, and at the bottom, include a byline:

      "Man, I loved your work so much I added a post about it to my own site!"

      Something along those lines. Stroke their ego. It's not rocket science.

      Then, at the end, add a NAKED link to it, showing the blog owner where you created the post. Use your real name in the name field.

      7 times out of 10, the blog owner will leave your link intact, and you've achieved one of the few outbound links on a page with decent metrics.

      Oh, and you got a NOFOLLOW, along with a DOFOLLOW link that's surrounded by content, from a relevant page on a relevant site, that has relevant links pointing to it.

      But they're junk, though, right?

      If you want to skip past all the courting of the blog owner, there's other ways to slip the links in without the owner ever having a clue.

      That's where "notext" comes into play. It's a bit too advanced for this group, though. Ya'lls panties are too tight right now.
      If you think invisible links rank sites in 2016 then you are a retard. The invisible link won't even show up when cut and pasted into any CMS I tried. This doesn't even work period, you are a complete idiot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Invisible links = invisible.

    Visible links = visible.

    Not sure where you made the disconnect?

    Retarded. Idiot. Yeah, you'll get taken even more seriously than nettiapina and irawr.

    The "notext" links are a use-at-your-own-risk strategy. Actually including a naked link works just as well.

    You do know what a naked link is, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author mkii
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      Invisible links = invisible.

      Visible links = visible.

      Not sure where you made the disconnect?

      Retarded. Idiot. Yeah, you'll get taken even more seriously than nettiapina and irawr.
      I don't know? Your instructions? Do you have proof this works? It doesn't work the way you presented it.

      Maybe people wouldn't argue with you if you made sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
        Originally Posted by mkii View Post

        I don't know? Your instructions? Do you have proof this works? It doesn't work the way you presented it.

        Maybe people wouldn't argue with you if you made sense.
        I've got links from 2009 that are still stuck like glue. That's what led me to bringing the strategy back to the surface. I also don't tend to believe what gurus say, and like to test things for myself.

        Back to the point.

        Notext links =
        Code:
        <a href="http://yoururl.com"> </a>
        Risky as hell. But works, just fine.

        Naked links = http://yoursite.com/blog-post-name-t...commenting-on/

        When they're inserted into the end of your blog comment, they're followed.

        Try it again, you'll see.

        If you want to get nefarious, put in your 100-200 words of juicy content, and then stuff a link at the end.

        When the blog owners see that you're providing an actual useful comment (especially if you didn't use the name field to link to your site) their guard is dropped, and you get a link. The majority of the time, they just hit approve. It's the few that do look into the comment that will delete it, because they see what you're doing.

        Or you can actually be useful, find articles that are related to yours, provide some extra content for the blog owner, and include a NAKED link to where they can point their readers for more information.

        Spend time looking like another blogger, and less like an SEO/Marketer, and people are more apt to work with you.

        These links are 100x easier to land than a guest post, and if you do it right, open the door for more opportunities down the road.
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        • Profile picture of the author mkii
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          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          I've got links from 2009 that are still stuck like glue. That's what led me to bringing the strategy back to the surface. I also don't tend to believe what gurus say, and like to test things for myself.

          Back to the point.

          Notext links =
          Code:
          <a href="http://yoururl.com"> </a>
          Risky as hell. But works, just fine.

          Naked links = http://yoursite.com/blog-post-name-t...commenting-on/

          When they're inserted into the end of your blog comment, they're followed.

          Try it again, you'll see.

          If you want to get nefarious, put in your 100-200 words of juicy content, and then stuff a link at the end.

          When the blog owners see that you're providing an actual useful comment (especially if you didn't use the name field to link to your site) their guard is dropped, and you get a link. The majority of the time, they just hit approve. It's the few that do look into the comment that will delete it, because they see what you're doing.

          Or you can actually be useful, find articles that are related to yours, provide some extra content for the blog owner, and include a NAKED link to where they can point their readers for more information.

          Spend time looking like another blogger, and less like an SEO/Marketer, and people are more apt to work with you.

          These links are 100x easier to land than a guest post, and if you do it right, open the door for more opportunities down the road.
          Ok. I saved the code to a page, then cut and pasted the rich text into WP, pressed update. Doesn't work. WP deletes the link.

          Even if you paste it as text (which you can clearly see the link then), if you click on visual, then go back to text, it's gone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Lol, OP with 6 posts started a war.

    No insults from me Synnuh, just a test result.

    Wordpress Version 4.4.2
    Comment section source code

    rel="nofollow automatically added to any link entered in Comments including a domain page #link

    <section class="comment-content comment"><p>no text link = <a href="h**p://yoururl.com" rel="nofollow"> </a></p>
    <p>raw url = <a href="h**p://yoursite.com/" rel="nofollow">h**p://yoursite.com/</a></p>

    ... but maybe it works on other types of site as the Synnuh says?

    If it works for you, great, but why not just contact the website owner and offer them a guest post, which can be recycled and syndicated many times to many other similar sites.

    Sure it takes more time, but you may get some powerful links for your efforts, and your conscience is clear, no BH, no BS.
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    • Profile picture of the author mkii
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      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      Lol, OP with 6 posts started a war.

      No insults from me Synnuh, just a test result.

      Wordpress Version 4.4.2
      Comment section source code

      rel="nofollow automatically added to any link entered in Comments including a domain page #link

      <section class="comment-content comment"><p>no text link = <a href="h**p://yoururl.com" rel="nofollow"> </a></p>
      <p>raw url = <a href="h**p://yoursite.com/" rel="nofollow">h**p://yoursite.com/</a></p>

      ... but maybe it works on other types of site as the Synnuh says?

      If it works for you, great, but why not just contact the website owner and offer them a guest post, which can be recycled and syndicated many times to many other similar sites.

      Sure it takes more time, but you may get some powerful links for your efforts, and your conscience is clear, no BH, no BS.
      I'm in the process of installing outdated content management systems to 100% verify this didn't even work in 2009.

      I really don't get this either. This is a variation of modern article marketing, what is the point of trying to hide a link? If you get caught they'll delete everything and then this is all for nothing.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkii
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        Great technique bro. Glad I wasted my life with this BS. That's about 2 hours of my life down the toilet.

        You have proof this works? Right now you have :

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      • Profile picture of the author Tim3
        Originally Posted by mkii View Post

        I'm in the process of installing outdated content management systems to 100% verify this didn't even work in 2009.

        Well there's dedication to the task in hand

        Originally Posted by mkii View Post

        I really don't get this either. This is a variation of modern article marketing, what is the point of trying to hide a link? If you get caught they'll delete everything and then this is all for nothing.
        There's nothing to get, this is the type of thing you find on BHW that's gets hoards of enthusiastic newbies spamming the crap out of any site they can find, because it seems like a silver-bullet shortcut to success.

        Synnuh said it works for him, that's fine, perhaps it does, I don't care one way or the other because it's not something I would want to associate myself with.
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        • Profile picture of the author mkii
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          Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

          Well there's dedication to the task in hand
          Oh I stopped caring. This is the most retarded crap I've seen in a very long time. Over optimizing for the space character. Sounds like it will really work like gangbusters for competitive niches.


          Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

          There's nothing to get, this is the type of thing you find on BHW that's gets hoards of enthusiastic newbies spamming the crap out of any site they can find, because it seems like a silver-bullet shortcut to success.

          Synnuh said it works for him, that's fine, perhaps it does, I don't care one way or the other because it's not something I would want to associate myself with.
          Spamming the crap out of my site in a financial services niche, great idea. Sign me up. It probably works (if it works period) for BS junk like "Long tail sniper 31337 edition" which I'm sure would be a big hit on those forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    I just loaded up one of my sites in an incognito window, to make sure I wasn't logged in, and dropped a link.





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    • Profile picture of the author Tim3
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      I just loaded up one of my sites in an incognito window, to make sure I wasn't logged in, and dropped a link.
      I wasn't disbelieving you, just saying it didn't work for me, and I was not logged in either.

      Are you using Wp 4.2.2 ?
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      • Profile picture of the author mkii
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        Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

        I wasn't disbelieving you, just saying it didn't work for me, and I was not logged in either.

        Are you using Wp 4.2.2 ?
        Troll Alert.

        I am, doesn't work. Doesn't even work as admin.

        Code:
        <p class="alert">Your comment is awaiting moderation.</p><p><a href="http://yoursite.com" rel="nofollow">yoursite</a><br /> <a href="http://yoursite.com" rel="nofollow"> </a></p></div>
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    It doesn't seem to work on an average WordPress install. However, it's possible to configure the sites to work this way. All it takes is a single line in functions.php as far as I know.

    And even if it did work, no SEO practitioner should care about comment links.
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    Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
    Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

    What's your excuse?
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      It doesn't seem to work on an average WordPress install. However, it's possible to configure the sites to work this way. All it takes is a single line in functions.php as far as I know.

      And even if it did work, no SEO practitioner should care about comment links.
      It's a scam artist who knows nothing.

      My goal, going forward, is to have a 7 figure month. That means, I need to make at least $1,000,000 a month in profit.
      hxxp://synnuh.net/

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      Long Tail Pro

      At 13 years old, I took over the Welcome screen on AOL for 11 minutes and built a botnet of 600,000 computers. The “You’ve got mail!” sound was never so menacing.
      Never happened.

      600k? Could you explain how you managed that many back then? What bot?

      At 15 years old, I created bots that auto clicked their way to farming bosses in Diablo 2 and automatically uploaded the good loot to sites like D2items.com for easy money.
      I'm a D2BS contributor. Never heard of you.

      At 18 years old, I got out into the real world. I took a job laying plywood on roofs of new houses, before the roofing material went down. It was a hard job but I loved it. I still knew having a “job” wasn’t going to work for me, though.
      Man that's rough, from operator of the biggest botnet of the time to MMORPG coder, to normal person. Hmm. I bet one of these things is true.

      At 25 years old, I had enough. I set out to build my own business, which led me to learning about creating “niche sites”. I created them. A lot of them. Over 450.
      Man, I have a lot of trouble managing about 110. It's pretty insane actually, sometimes 12-14 hours a day. Even if you only spent 1 hour a month on each site, that would require 112.5 hours a week of work to maintain the sites.

      Man. That's some really "interesting" stuff you've got there.

      Twenty Six employees and none of them could fix your aweber mailing list?

      Wow.
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      • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        It's a scam artist who knows nothing.

        hxxp://synnuh.net/

        SM hosting
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        Never happened.

        600k? Could you explain how you managed that many back then? What bot?

        I'm a D2BS contributor. Never heard of you.

        Man that's rough, from operator of the biggest botnet of the time to MMORPG coder, to normal person. Hmm. I bet one of these things is true.

        Man, I have a lot of trouble managing about 110. It's pretty insane actually, sometimes 12-14 hours a day. Even if you only spent 1 hour a month on each site, that would require 112.5 hours a week of work to maintain the sites.

        Man. That's some really "interesting" stuff you've got there.

        Twenty Six employees and none of them could fix your aweber mailing list?

        Wow.
        Back from the top.

        That site sucks because I'm not getting into the MMO market. It started off as a decent project, and got abandoned a month later. Nice find, though. Took you how long? Minutes?

        I used Rainman and an internal AOL account to take over the welcome screen. Using an 8kb backdoor, I replaced the You've Got Mail .wav file with mine. Once the form loaded, my backdoor downloaded the actual server, and they were a part of my botnet. It took 14 minutes to rack up those numbers.

        I also used the same 8kb downloader encoded in ActiveX inside of the domain's header, so as soon as people loaded the script, they were part of my botnet, too. When you're spamming out 1000's of emails an hour, it's fairly easy to rack up large numbers. All the person had to do was let the webpage load, and they were mine.

        Doesn't matter if you've never heard of me. I've never heard of you either, so? I ran Baal, Mephisto, and Nihlathak(?) automagically, 24 hours a day, from 4 different computers.

        http://www.diabloii.net/forums/threa...sassin.488417/

        http://www.diabloii.net/forums/threa...-claws.483860/

        Getting expelled from high school at 14 gives you plenty of time to hack away at the computer. Once I turned 18, I got my license, got a job, and started getting friendly with the opposite sex.

        Just because you have trouble managing 110, doesn't mean you're on the same level as me. You can't even see the clouds I'm on, from the elevation you're stuck at.

        It was 22 employees, by the way. And a business partner. And putting in 3 days straight was a fairly common occurrence. It's called drive. Motivation. Hustle. Any of those words engrained in your DNA?

        That site isn't my business model, so no, it doesn't get the love it deserves.

        I do like the personal approach you took, though. Glad I impressed you that much.

        Recognize a hustler when you see one, bud. Unless you're not capable.

        Then, just keep calling me a scammer 'til you feel better about yourself lol

        I do love the assumptions you make about people. Says a lot about your own character.

        And I want to thank you.

        Keeping this thread at the top helped me generate $4,400 in billable work for my team in 3 days.

        I'd cut you a commission, but you're a douche. I'll get a cake with your avatar on it to celebrate, though. Want pics?

        P.S. Learning the process yet? You've got a long way to go before you're on my level. The meta game, alone, in this thread is worth thousands of $$$. Whether you like it, or not, you're part of the plan lol. Never imagined it would take off like this, though.



        Well played, sir. Take it to 1,000 for me? There's still 2 weeks in next month left to fill.
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

          I used Rainman and an internal AOL account to take over the welcome screen. Using an 8kb backdoor, I replaced the You've Got Mail .wav file with mine. Once the form loaded, my backdoor downloaded the actual server, and they were a part of my botnet.
          What account?

          Some of the ints had access to certain KWs, but it was pretty rare. You could OSW somebody and customize the disconnected message if you knew what to do. I never figured that out, but I had it done to me a few times by people in island55. Requried a privileged account obviously. I had one with CRIS/FONE before the dongle era and could pull the info of any account. The account didn't need to be an Int to edit keywords, the MTV accounts had no privileges other than editing the MTV keyword. I remember it getting hacked constantly.

          8kb backdoor? Pretty impressive, you code that in ASM? All the ones I had were ~64kb. Minus the newb ones that required vb RTs. Also, nobody really ever got INTs with trojans. They were usually scraped out of FONE or discovered through email on hacked OH/INT accounts and then cracked.

          Or IM/Invite spammers discovered them because they had their IMs off and the privileged accounts could still message them, so that's how you knew the account was interesting.

          I never heard of a botnet that actually worked through AOL.

          They first blew up because of SDBot and the dcom rpc exploit. Here's the problem: No IRCD could handle that many clients with the hardware available at the time and the your timeline doesn't match up with the P2P bots. I could be wrong though.

          I believe that maybe you had skills, but you're BSing about what exactly went down. Also 600k bots, why didn't you just spam clickcash and buy a fleet of lamborghinis? You could have mailed a scraped usenet list and been a millionaire.

          I was making 10k/day mailing on an ISDN line with zero bots using darkmailer without using any exploited sites.

          Doesn't add up.

          I was also done w/ AOL after they fixed invites, cloud's invite spammer was sick...
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          • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
            Originally Posted by irawr View Post

            What account?

            Some of the ints had access to certain KWs, but it was pretty rare. You could OSW somebody and customize the disconnected message if you knew what to do. I never figured that out, but I had it done to me a few times by people in island55. Requried a privileged account obviously. I had one with CRIS/FONE before the dongle era and could pull the info of any account. The account didn't need to be an Int to edit keywords, the MTV accounts had no privileges other than editing the MTV keyword. I remember it getting hacked constantly.

            8kb backdoor? Pretty impressive, you code that in ASM? All the ones I had were ~64kb. Minus the newb ones that required vb RTs. Also, nobody really ever got INTs with trojans. They were usually scraped out of FONE or discovered through email on hacked OH/INT accounts and then cracked.

            Or IM/Invite spammers discovered them because they had their IMs off and the privileged accounts could still message them, so that's how you knew the account was interesting.

            I never heard of a botnet that actually worked through AOL.

            They first blew up because of SDBot and the dcom rpc exploit. Here's the problem: No IRCD could handle that many clients with the hardware available at the time and the your timeline doesn't match up with the P2P bots. I could be wrong though.

            I believe that maybe you had skills, but you're BSing about what exactly went down. Also 600k bots, why didn't you just spam clickcash and buy a fleet of lamborghinis? You could have mailed a scraped usenet list and been a millionaire.

            I was making 10k/day mailing on an ISDN line with zero bots using darkmailer without using any exploited sites.

            Doesn't add up.
            See, now you're talking my language. I'm not sure what the downloader was coded in. All I had to do was decompile it, edit in the download URL for my server, and start spamming it out.

            It was a SecurID dongle I managed to get ahold of, from one of the girls I cracked with. Her ma worked inside the offices. I'd go to her house, grab her mom's keys, and sign on.

            I had plenty of OH/Chat Host accounts to play with. The internal was my bread, and butter, though.

            The same thing you're talking about. I'd send out mass IMs, asking a harmless question. When I get a response, I went to work. I had a profile scraper that generated random 3chr strings, grabbed all the usernames, and started IMing/mailing.

            The botnet didn't work on AOL, it was just full of AOL users. I used a hand-written VB+Winsock Sub7 clone to take control, and then used their accounts to continue spamming and working as a proxy. I mainly used it to drop connects on IRC, or take down websites.

            I wasn't smart enough to use the botnet for anything to make money. I was stoked I actually pulled off building the network up the way I did. This was long before I knew about how much money could be made. I had a script on an AOL clone site that pulled in credit cards all day, that I gave away. I was a kid, still wet behind the ears.

            The closest I got to making money was installing the free internet shit that paid you when you clicked ads, and ran it on their computers as soon as they went idle. The monitor got disabled, until they moved their mouse on their own. It took me 2 weeks to get all the accounts suspended, and the ISP to start programming in bot detection.

            Even if you don't like me, you've got a bit more respect, now. Whatever that's worth to you.

            P.S. I still own the 'ixl' AOL account. ;D I had 'syn' for about 2 years before some dude in NV jacked it from me, locked the password, then got the account permanently suspended. The old password used to be 'wsup'. No way to know for sure, now, though.

            And building that 450 site empire, you've got to think about when it happened. EMDs were easy to scrape, cheap to buy, and you could pay $1 per article to have it posted to the site. All I had to do was put a keyword list into Name.com's bulk availability checker, grab the ones I wanted, have a VA install Wordpress, and then send out an order to my team.

            I had free access to 2,500+ PBN sites as part of the memberships I paid for, and had people churning out links to the tune of 100's of articles per day. We're not talking Huffington Post quality. Remember Vic? The goal was $1 per day, per site. We easily achieved that.

            Here's a few remnants, to show you the quality I'm talking: http://www.infobarrel.com/Users/Synnuh Look at the publish dates. Those ~200 articles were published in 2 days.
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            • Profile picture of the author irawr
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              Ok. You're making sense now. So, scroll up, I dropped a few legit techniques.

              This is the disconnect we had before stems from this misunderstanding: I don't build sites like what you're talking about since I was deindexed during the mass ban waves when the blackhat era ended (and so were you.) I don't recommend it and anybody doing anything like that, I'm going to try my best to steer them away from the idea, whatever it takes.

              So to put this into perspective.

              I want a site like : Dating Advice | Expert Tips, Q&A's, How-To's

              compare that to : DatingTips.com, Dating Advice, Relationship Advice, Free Dating Tips

              Which one would you rather own? To me, I kind of think the second site sucks, it's not terrible, but by comparison it's pretty weak.

              I'll be honest, out of all of my sites, only a small handfull have any potential to grow into the first one and I know for a fact that about 100 of my 110 sites don't have a chance to compete and I will probably start putting them up onto flippa.

              So to accomplish the kind of traffic that site gets, a serious amount of real SEO needs to be done, and I did mention a few techniques in this thread that do work.

              So, do me just this ONE favor. Just try to put this into perspective and ask yourself this question: What has a better chance of accomplishing your goal? A site like the first one I mentioned, where it's completely dominating a competitive niche and gets massive traffic, or an army of sites that you rank off comment backlinks?

              I hope you can think about this and fully understand why I'm trying pretty hard to get you to think about this differently.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidsmith0123
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    I've learned my lessons about building sites like those, already.

    I'd be all over site #1, if it was offered up for sale to me. I'd offer serious cash for it.

    The 2nd one, I'd buy the content for a minimum, and the domain for a premium, but that's about it.

    These days, it's insane for anyone to think they can properly manage the quality of 100+ sites. It's not cost or time effective. That whole inch deep, mile wide vs inch wide, mile deep theory.

    When people ask me for advice, I tell them to buy links from high trafficked sites. I don't even bother teaching them SEO anymore, instead leaning more towards legit marketing methods.

    Before all this got off to the way it did, the original intent was to stir up a bit of controversy for pageviews. Commenting is a legit way to get your foot in the door with blog owners, to potentially guest post down the line.

    Some of the methods I posted work great for parasites, but wouldn't be advised to use on sites you own. The whole "notext" linking strategy is easy to pick off with an algorithm update. No hiding that fact.

    They're also nice to pad the links you've got coming into the site. Balances out the anchor text distribution, with a fairly easy to achieve set of links.

    P.S. I'll be the first to admit I'm an asshole. I sold off a business, and multiple sites in the last 2 weeks, and needed to keep my team busy while I figure out which end is up. A bit of controversy gets the views up. ;P
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      I'd be all over site #1, if it was offered up for sale to me. I'd offer serious cash for it.
      Got 10-20 million? You could always shoot them an offer. Site has somewhere between 7 and 25 employees, just guessing...

      The site is ranked #2 on "best dating sites" 60.5k average monthly searches, suggested bid is 5$ EPC.

      1 Million UV/Month site. I don't think the owner of that needs to keep their niche secret.

      SR is estimating the site gets 80kUV/D from G. I'm guessing monthly rev is >1m.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Yeaaahh, that's outta my league.

    Right now I'm just trying to figure out how to have a 6-figure month, and a one-off 7-figure sale.

    Having access to $15 or $20 million would make that easy. ;D I think I could make 7-figures a month with 80k UV's a day. Especially in the dating sector.

    I wouldn't be on the internet if I had that kind of bank, though. Buying apartment buildings and flipping rentals is a lot more up my alley.
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  • Profile picture of the author newsworldinside
    In my opinion, it's have some value. Theoretically rel=nofollow means it'll not consider any link juice, but practically it has some value, maybe very little, but i believe it contains something.
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  • Profile picture of the author HCFGrizzly
    Originally Posted by ogimasoida View Post

    Hi warriors, As I know most blog comments are nofollow, is it worth our efforts in terms of seo? does it help to boost ranking?
    Of course man! Don`t let the mean people here tell you otherwise. They are just keeping the secret for themselves, they don`t want anybody to find out.
    Comment the sh*t out of those blogs and you will be the king of the SERPs in no time. (trust me....I work for the CIA)
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by HCFGrizzly View Post

      Of course man! Don`t let the mean people here tell you otherwise. They are just keeping the secret for themselves, they don`t want anybody to find out.
      Comment the sh*t out of those blogs and you will be the king of the SERPs in no time. (trust me....I work for the CIA)
      Man these forums around these hours. I'm glad there's somebody with at least a basic understanding of how this works.

      Google created nofollow to specifically ignore those links.

      The other search engine that matters (bing/yahoo same technology) followed suit.

      The search engines completely ignore the nofollow links as far as outbound links.

      It probably won't hurt the site receiving the links, but it doesn't help either. It might make the site look like spam to the search engines.

      I think I might work on a project where I build 1,000,000 nofollow links to a site for the sole purpose to figure out if Google will deindex it. My theory is that google completely ignores the links.
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      • Profile picture of the author HCFGrizzly
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        Man these forums around these hours. I'm glad there's somebody with at least a basic understanding of how this works.

        Google created nofollow to specifically ignore those links.

        The other search engine that matters (bing/yahoo same technology) followed suit.

        The search engines completely ignore the nofollow links as far as outbound links.

        It probably won't hurt the site receiving the links, but it doesn't help either. It might make the site look like spam to the search engines.

        I think I might work on a project where I build 1,000,000 nofollow links to a site for the sole purpose to figure out if Google will deindex it. My theory is that google completely ignores the links.
        Meh...it`s not worth wasting your time to teach some people around here. Whatever you will say, your post will be flooded by a gazillion useless replies.
        I`m not the most knowledgeable person around here, but some things in SEO just seem like common sense.
        I must admit though, I enjoyed reading the argument you guys had. It shows that you can still find value here, unlike other forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author KylieSweet
    No follow comments has nothing to do with SEO and mostly in boosting rankings. As we know it will only ignore by the search engine. However, we can use this commenting method to build reputation and branding.
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    • Profile picture of the author kirakira2541
      Originally Posted by KylieSweet View Post

      No follow comments has nothing to do with SEO and mostly in boosting rankings. As we know it will only ignore by the search engine. However, we can use this commenting method to build reputation and branding.
      OK , Thanks for yours help ! this is will the huge help for me to do with authority site
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by kirakira2541 View Post

        OK , Thanks for yours help ! this is will the huge help for me to do with authority site
        So you got what she was saying? Getting nofollow comments is useless, and you should not do it.
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        Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
        Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

        What's your excuse?
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  • No follow comments does not pass any link juice but are helpful in gaining referral traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author wdcbangalore
    The no follow links not help to improved to your page rank,but it will little effect on your page traffic,non relevant comments create no follow links.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by wdcbangalore View Post

      non relevant comments create no follow links.
      It's got nothing to do with relevancy. The site either has the links tagged as nofollow, or it has not.
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      Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
      Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

      What's your excuse?
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