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razorhound

8 years ago

Hey Paul, glad to see that you're still rocking Amazon.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Hey Paul, glad to see that you're still rocking Amazon.

Haha thanks! I was MIA for a bit as I got into other channels such as SEM, PPC, and Social. But then I realized that I just love SEO too much ahah.

I also got heavily into corporate SEO which I liked in the beginning, and then I realized it just wasn't as fun as affiliate marketing - SEO

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Haha thanks! I was MIA for a bit as I got into other channels such as SEM, PPC, and Social. But then I realized that I just love SEO too much ahah.

I also got heavily into corporate SEO which I liked in the beginning, and then I realized it just wasn't as fun as affiliate marketing - SEO

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Can you explain why you're using spam on the 2.0s then building PBNs?

If you're going to build a legit PBN why are you bothering with spam?

Serious question.

I mean are you just building an amount of links where it will be under the radar? The traffic level doesn't reflect aggressive link building there but I just don't understand the logic.

I also don't know of any press releases that have followed links anymore.

For niche affiliate sites I do

- Pick a niche
- SEMRUSH for competitor analysis
- Identify competitor that's an affiliate as well.
- Create site
- Create content (optimize it - h1, h2, title tags, silo structure/internal linking)
- add content every week
- Create social accounts
- Post on social accounts
- Order press releases - (month 1-3)
* I make a simple infographic, find a FB fan page owner with a lot of fans and try to get them to share it to their audience, if they want a small amount of $ that's fine. It helps to feel them out ahead of time. You could technically do this on day one of the site if you set it up quickly, if I do that I like to edit the dates in WP so it looks like I'm posting weekly/bi-weekly. This does nothing for Google, I don't think Google cares what the date on the page says. But there's no reason you can't aggressively setup a site and get social traffic to it immediately.
- Order social signals
* I work on building up legit followers on the social media accounts
- Order / create web 2.0's with tiered linking. GSA -> FCS networker -> Unique web 2.0 -> Affiliate money site (month 1-3)
* I do guest posts, seems like less work and it's white hat, instead of setting up an entire website and configuring SEO tools, screwing around with proxies, I just source articles and work on getting guest posts.
- Order / create PBN's (month 4-6)
* I do article marketing (I write an article, typically with multiple links in it, then I do outreach to site owners, usually ones that don't allow guest posts or contributing authors, and see if I can get them to post the article as their own) and buy citations if I feel I need to.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

Can you explain why you're using spam on the 2.0s then building PBNs?

If you're going to build a legit PBN why are you bothering with spam?

Serious question.

I mean are you just building an amount of links where it will be under the radar? The traffic level doesn't reflect aggressive link building there but I just don't understand the logic.

I also don't know of any press releases that have followed links anymore.

For niche affiliate sites I do

- Pick a niche
- SEMRUSH for competitor analysis
- Identify competitor that's an affiliate as well.
- Create site
- Create content (optimize it - h1, h2, title tags, silo structure/internal linking)
- add content every week
- Create social accounts
- Post on social accounts
- Order press releases - (month 1-3)
* I make a simple infographic, find a FB fan page owner with a lot of fans and try to get them to share it to their audience, if they want a small amount of $ that's fine. It helps to feel them out ahead of time.
- Order social signals
* I work on building up legit followers on the social media accounts
- Order / create web 2.0's with tiered linking. GSA -> FCS networker -> Unique web 2.0 -> Affiliate money site (month 1-3)
* I do guest posts, seems like less work and it's white hat, instead of setting up an entire website and configuring SEO tools, screwing around with proxies, I just source articles and work on getting guest posts.
- Order / create PBN's (month 4-6)
* I do article marketing (I write an article, typically with multiple links in it, then I do outreach to site owners, usually ones that don't allow guest posts or contributing authors, and see if I can get them to post the article as their own) and buy citations if I feel I need to.

Haha thanks for the questions. For press release - anchor text variations, main purpose. Second - think of it this way. Let's say you start a company; the first thing you'd do is post on your social media accounts. Second is making a press release for a big announcement (launch of site, redesign of site, etc.). That's all I'm doing. I know they're no follow links, it's not to rank a site, it's really just getting out of the sandbox.

Nothing is spammy when the tier 1 links (web 2.0) are all done manual. Unless, you're paying too much attention to tier 3 and tier 2. But that's just how I've done it and it works.

Remember, this is a strat that I use and it works. Others have a different strat and hey, hats off to them.

Ultimately it boils down to tightening up the on-page of the site. Everything else is supplementary.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Again this is one of my sites that I just tested as I stopped doing affiliate amazon sites back in 2012 and now just getting back to it.

Who knows, my second site I may not use web 2.0 at all. That's the beauty is that I'm testing and getting results

. I'm sure other sites that I'll be testing will also fail as I go a bit more "aggressive".

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Again this is one of my sites that I just tested as I stopped doing affiliate amazon sites back in 2012 and now just getting back to it.

Who knows, my second site I may not use web 2.0 at all. That's the beauty is that I'm testing and getting results

. I'm sure other sites that I'll be testing will also fail as I go a bit more "aggressive".

I was doing this around 2010-2012, I was building 2.0s and lightly building links with tools into them. I have about 300 web 2.0s total (content via Philippines VA with the tiers set up all wacky, some t1s have 7 t2s and those t2s have random amounts of t3s) linking to my old affiliate sites and all of those projects are pretty much ready for flippa.com ...

Granted the t1 content was ESL quality. There was a period in 2012 where the whole project kind of tanked by about 60%.

Again, not exactly the same strategy...

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

I was doing this around 2010-2012, I was building 2.0s and lightly building links with tools into them. I have about 300 web 2.0s total (content via Philippines VA) linking to my old affiliate sites and all of those projects are pretty much ready for flippa.com ...

Granted the t1 content was ESL quality. There was a period in 2012 where the whole project kind of tanked by about 60%.

Again, not exactly the same strategy...

Nice. Glad you're on here. I was hoping someone would join the conversation

. I left this forum due to 1) lack of involvement 2) not just lack of involvement but a lot of inexperienced marketers; but not only inexperienced but do not know how to ask the right questions or claim they know it all.

Thanks for letting me know about the web 2.0's. I do got to say that I could just skip the 2.0's, and go straight to PBN's / guest post.

I'll test that for niche site #2.

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irawr Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I'll test that for niche site #2.

Yeah, test everything, some things work totally differently for different people. There might be some finesse thing you're doing with the 2.0s that I never did and that might be why it works for you and not me.

The content might have been just too low of quality.
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Synnuh

8 years ago

I'd agree that you're wasting time (I get why you're doing it, though) on a few aspects, but GSA -> FCS -> Web 2.0s/PBNs is my basic linking structure.

Once you've got the system in place, it takes 10 minutes to build new linking funnels vs requesting guest post spots.

That said, guest posting on legitimately stingy (rarely link out) websites is 10x more powerful than building up link funnels using the strategy outlined above -- and a lot less risky.

The whole Trustflow metric is what throws off the GSA -> FCS -> Web 2.0s/PBNs and could eventually be it's downfall. You're not getting true Tf, instead manipulating the metric.

Like you said, though. It works great (right now) and might as well get it while the gettin's good.

As far as $ / time invested per link, it's the best bang for the buck greyhat strategy I've found in a long time.

Infographics, in my opinion, are the single best way to pad your link profile with legitimate whitehat links.

Infographics are the best bang for the buck whitehat strategy I've EVER found that can easily be scaled.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Synnuh

I'd agree that you're wasting time on a few aspects, but GSA -> FCS -> Web 2.0s/PBNs is my basic linking structure.

Once you've got the system in place, it takes 10 minutes to build new linking funnels vs requesting guest post spots.

That said, guest posting is 10x more powerful than building up link funnels using the strategy outlined above.

Which aspect do you feel like I'm wasting time on? Is it the press release or is it the social signals?

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Synnuh

8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Which aspect do you feel like I'm wasting time on? Is it the press release or is it the social signals?

Press releases, in general, to affiliate sites haven't had the umph that they do to local and business sites -- in my experience.

I'm all for social signals these days. It doesn't hurt, and helps safeguard you in the future, should the algorithms lean more towards tracking how users are interacting with your sites, and where they're coming from.

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Synnuh

Press releases, in general, to affiliate sites haven't had the umph that they do to local and business sites -- in my experience.

I'm all for social signals these days. It doesn't hurt, and helps safeguard you in the future, should the algorithms lean more towards tracking how users are interacting with your sites, and where they're coming from.

Yeah I mean I've personally experienced that it helps in Bing/Yahoo. It's not a massive boost but if you go from zero social shares to a bunch on a site quickly, it does seem like those engines will bump your ranks up a bit. I have some sites where for whatever reason Google doesn't like the site but it has steady traffic from FB/Bing ...

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Great insights though. With my niche site #1 , I'm ranking a lot of terms not sure if I'll change the strat that already works. But for niche site 2, I'd be more happy to implement infographics, guest posting, and go a bit more aggressive than usual.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Glad we still got contributors in this forum. Looks like it all depends on the "thread" :p.

I have about 32 pages on niche site 1. Main competitor has 250 indexed pages. One internal page is capturing a huge bulk of the keywords. Working on optimizing the others now.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Let me know if you two want in on a skype mastermind group. I started one with a group of marketers from charles floate's forum and also stack that money forum. We have about 26 members and am very selective of who to add.

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Synnuh

8 years ago

Yeah, you can shoot me a link to it or add 'synnuh' on Skype. I dunno how much time I'll have to contribute.

Not that I put much weight on it, but most people don't like me lol ;D

I get my kicks trolling Type-A personalities. I guess that means I'm Type A+. See what I mean? ^_^

You just happened to catch the stars aligning, and me and irawr agreeing on something.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Synnuh

Yeah, you can shoot me a link to it or add 'synnuh' on Skype. I dunno how much time I'll have to contribute.

Not that I put much weight on it, but most people don't like me lol ;D

I get my kicks trolling Type-A personalities. I guess that means I'm Type A+. See what I mean? ^_^

You just happened to catch the stars aligning, and me and irawr agreeing on something.

It's all good, we're pretty brutal in that group. haha

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cooler1

8 years ago

Do you still use Wolfmmi's strategy that involves promoting newly released products?

Do you only post product reviews on your site or also informational articles which have no affiliate links?

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Do you still use Wolfmmi's strategy that involves promoting newly released products?

Do you only post product reviews on your site or also informational articles which have no affiliate links?

Woah! haven't heard from you in a while. No I don't use wolfmmi's strat at all hahaha.

I use product reviews as an inner page, but i target more broad search volume. I have a ton of informational articles as well, "how to" guides or "news" on the niche.

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razorhound

8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Woah! haven't heard from you in a while. No I don't use wolfmmi's strat at all hahaha.

I use product reviews as an inner page, but i target more broad search volume. I have a ton of informational articles as well, "how to" guides or "news" on the niche.

Product reviews only don't really do well anymore. It seems like we have to write tons of informational articles to balance out. Have a site marked as major spam problems and I believe it's the ratio of review/informational articles.

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Product reviews only don't really do well anymore. It seems like we have to write tons of informational articles to balance out. Have a site marked as major spam problems and I believe it's the ratio of review/informational articles.

Sigh. There's this problem, called the FTC. It's illegal to call something a review that you have not actually reviewed. You're allowed to talk about products all day. Just don't call it a review. There's different ways to get the word "review" on the page, without it being in the body of the content. Like, in the domain for example.

So "A comparison of features between the iphone5 and iphone6" on techreview.com is 100% fine.

If you have a review site with a review of every iPhone and there's no proof on the site that you reviewed the phones (like videos of you holding the phone) or you did not go into excruciating detail to the point where the content is proof you reviewed it, then it IS spam. It might as well be penis pill reviews that claim they all work. Seriously, you bought a 600$ phone that shoots HD video and you couldn't shoot an HD video with the phone and put it onto youtube? Come on... Maybe you don't want your face in the video, I personally get that, and so will a manual reviewer, so go to a park and shoot a video of a river while you talk about the phone, or a video of your dog or something. Don't make this difficult. You just need to show the Google spam team that you're legit and this site isn't spam, it's a real review.

I would try your best to convince the reader and the manual reviewer that you really did review it. If you can't, then don't try to, just compare it. Those terms get searched quite a bit as well and it's whitehat.

Tip: Ebay

Buy it used on Ebay, review it, Dump it back onto Ebay. If you're really smart about this, you'll actually make small amounts of money doing it. Or you'll lose some but will always have the newest stuff.

Either way, if you want a site that's 100% reviews, there better be clear proof that's it's legit all over the site.

If the niche is "How to money online" dude you're screwed, the entire niche is borderline spam.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Product reviews only don't really do well anymore. It seems like we have to write tons of informational articles to balance out. Have a site marked as major spam problems and I believe it's the ratio of review/informational articles.

Sorry, I should have rephrased this.

My main targeted page is like what raaaaaaawrrr said, I have a comparison table. I have 5-6 products in one page and I go into details of the product and it's features. I do not provide any opinion of me owning it and what I've done with the product.

That's all.

My comparison table is what converts the most! And it's usually above the fold.

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razorhound

8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Sorry, I should have rephrased this.

My main targeted page is like what raaaaaaawrrr said, I have a comparison table. I have 5-6 products in one page and I go into details of the product and it's features. I do not provide any opinion of me owning it and what I've done with the product.

That's all.

My comparison table is what converts the most! And it's usually above the fold.

That's what I did with the site, comparison, features and specs. Didn't touch it for quite some time though. Could be links that caused it to be marked as major spam. To be honest I seriously doubt that toptenreviews bought every single item to review them, so I don't think there's a problem as long as we don't claim to own that specific item.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

For all I know,

Whoever owns Best Massage Chair Reviews 2016 - Comprehensive Guide I envy you. $$$$$$$$$$$!!!

Anyway, Will be testing out niche site 2. Again, I'm also doing a churn and burn approach. I don't really care this is me just testing things out and see what works and what doesn't, or what's more efficient.

I plan on having 20 niche sites going on before the year is over. Will keep this thread updated IF it doesn't close down.

Let the games begin!!!!

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razorhound

8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

For all I know,

Whoever owns Best Massage Chair Reviews 2016 - Comprehensive Guide I envy you. $$$$$$$$$$$!!!

Anyway, Will be testing out niche site 2. Again, I'm also doing a churn and burn approach. I don't really care this is me just testing things out and see what works and what doesn't, or what's more efficient.

I plan on having 20 niche sites going on before the year is over. Will keep this thread updated IF it doesn't close down.

Let the games begin!!!!

Thanks for the link Paul, seems like a good site to model. And the keywords are surprisingly easy!

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irawr Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Thanks for the link Paul, seems like a good site to model. And the keywords are surprisingly easy!

Stay out of my new niche. Back off.

Sidenote: man that PBN.
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  Stay out of my new niche. Back off.
  
  Sidenote: man that PBN.
  
  That PBN life.
  
  Look at the prices on those chairs....even 4% off of a 1-3k chair my goodness... And with the traffic based on various keywords and not just the targeted. FML.
  
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GGpaul 8 years ago

Originally Posted by razorhound

Thanks for the link Paul, seems like a good site to model. And the keywords are surprisingly easy!

Of course. I just dropped an easy win right there now replicate the process.
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svsets10

8 years ago

I like to use a similar linking strategy, but I do it slightly different:

GSA KS --> URL SHORTENER --> WEB2.0--> MS

Similar but different, it's working for me at the moment

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mkii

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Originally Posted by svsets10

I like to use a similar linking strategy, but I do it slightly different:

GSA KS --> URL SHORTENER --> WEB2.0--> MS

Similar but different, it's working for me at the moment

Please tell me you're building email lists...

I've thought about doing stuff like to build lists a bunch of times. Or to promote a bunch of JVzoo stuff since it pays to paypal.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by mkii

Please tell me you're building email lists...

I've thought about doing stuff like to build lists a bunch of times. Or to promote a bunch of JVzoo stuff since it pays to paypal.

What? This has nothing to do with an email list ? This is link building

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mkii

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Originally Posted by GGpaul

What? This has nothing to do with an email list ? This is link building

If you run GSA into anything long enough it gets smacked. If you built a list, it doesn't really matter if you get smacked. So you got a massive mailing list for basically nothing and then got penalized /yawn who cares?

Also with his exact method, if the shortener link gets deleted, then the authority will bounce around in a highly unnatural manner.

If either of you have some insight into how many links you can build and not be concerned about penalties, obviously I'd like to know. I know everything I did got deindexed but I was very aggressive.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by mkii

If you run GSA into anything long enough it gets smacked. If you built a list, it doesn't really matter if you get smacked. So you got a massive mailing list for basically nothing and then got penalized /yawn who cares?

Also with his exact method, if the shortener link gets deleted, then the authority will bounce around in a highly unnatural manner.

If either of you have some insight into how many links you can build and not be concerned about penalties, obviously I'd like to know. I know everything I did got deindexed but I was very aggressive.

The thread is about amazon affiliate ranking keywords using link building tactics. So, let me get this straight now you want to talk about list building. Why don't you just build a landing page and do paid through FB? Run some ads, and get capture some emails or even do social with automated DM's that will capture people's e-mails?

I'm sure he's talking about one way of building links, in addition to PBN's, guest post, infographics, sapes, broken links, etc.

Sorry, it's just the e-mail list building came out of no where lol.

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mkii

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Originally Posted by GGpaul

The thread is about amazon affiliate ranking keywords using link building tactics. So, let me get this straight now you want to talk about list building. Why don't you just build a landing page and do paid through FB? Run some ads, and get capture some emails or even do social with automated DM's that will capture people's e-mails?

I'm sure he's talking about one way of building links, in addition to PBN's, guest post, infographics, sapes, broken links, etc.

Sorry, it's just the e-mail list building came out of no where lol.

I'm sorry. Let me clarify. If I was using GSA (or SAPE) as part of my link building strategy, I would personally use a lead magnet and try to collect emails on the site, even if I was marketing amazon stuff. That way, if the site got penalized, I'd still have a list to market and you're probably still getting bing/yahoo traffic. Obviously that domain is burned and it's probably not worth trying to get out of the penalty.

I think what you guys are doing is trying to play it safe where you only build a certain amount of links, personally, that's never really what I did, I just kept building links until the domain got smacked, waited a little while until the list wasn't generating much, 301'd the entire site to the index page, changed the index page to be an offer wall, deleted the site out of google, deleted everything, turn off autorenew on the domain, and then got an expired domain and set the site back up on a new domain, using whatever is left of the old list on the new domain.

Warning: if you keep doing that they will eventually ban the server IP.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by mkii

I'm sorry. Let me clarify. If I was using GSA (or SAPE) as part of my link building strategy, I would personally use a lead magnet and try to collect emails on the site, even if I was marketing amazon stuff. That way, if the site got penalized, I'd still have a list to market and you're probably still getting bing/yahoo traffic. Obviously that domain is burned and it's probably not worth trying to get out of the penalty.

I think what you guys are doing is trying to play it safe where you only build a certain amount of links, personally, that's never really what I did, I just kept building links until the domain got smacked, waited a little while until the list wasn't generating much, 301'd the entire site to the index page, changed the index page to be an offer wall, deleted the site out of google, deleted everything, turn off autorenew on the domain, and then got an expired domain and set the site back up on a new domain, using whatever is left of the old list on the new domain.

Warning: if you keep doing that they will eventually ban the server IP.

Got it. I totally get you now. Yep, I'm implementing e-mail as part of my strat. And you're right, what works now may not work tomorrow so at least we can capture the e-mails asap.

Off topic ish, but I run an automated software to get followers on IG / Twitter. Whoever follows me back I PM / DM them and say something along the lines like "Hey thanks for following, we're running a contest blah blah blah enter your e-mail for a chacne to win!." Boom got their e-mail.

Now that you mentioned it, I should add a widget to capture e-mails and even banners along my pages.

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svsets10

8 years ago

This is a good thread.

In terms of using GSA etc and worrying about the site getting slapped..... You just have to know what you are doing. TEST and TRACK. If you listened to most advice then you would already know that GSA stopped working years ago (wink wink).

The reason that I do what I do is simple, it works. You are sending a large amount of links through a tier of shorteners that can absorb the spam and send the juice to a web2.0 with high DA that in turn juices up the MS.

One thing to add about GSA, sometimes its not so much the site getting slapped, it's link loss. You need to keep sending links to keep those properties sending the juice. I keep adding new web2.0 campaigns every 3 weeks or so to combat the link loss. I have one project right now that has a whole lot of keywords on page 2. It needs SAPE or PBN to take it home but I am struggling to fund SAPE right now after they switched to the 3d verify system

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sonjay

8 years ago

Yep: test, track, and tweak it is.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Update:

Made my first $100 in one day on niche site #1.

Rankings dropped by 3% overall, could be that I added PBN links (it's been a month since I added some more). I'm hoping that my keywords will recover.

Currently working on niche site 2. Doing a different approach. Implementing blog commenting just for anchor text ratio.

Will keep you guys updated. Goal by the end of this weekend is to have Niche site 3 launched.

I'm testing all sorts of link building - even for those that don't recommend certain link building strats, I'm still going for it, for my own sake / my own lame ass ego.

Anyway, happy Friday. Keep fighting!

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Update:

Site overall visibility in keyword position dropped by 3% out of the 1,000 indexed keywords.

Page 2 rankings had a much more dramatic drop.

As of today, rankings recovered SLIGHTLY but there's still a drop going on.

Traffic dropped by 20 visitors.

As a lot of my peers said, don't look at it every day, and come back 14 days to see where it's at that then.

So far, have made $600+ ish in revenue.

Working on Niche site #2. I'm looking for a web 2.0 service cheaper than the hoth. if you can recommend one let me know.

This one - I've spent $45 per article, so let's see how this will turn out.

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Originally Posted by GGpaul

Update:

Site overall visibility in keyword position dropped by 3% out of the 1,000 indexed keywords.

Page 2 rankings had a much more dramatic drop.

As of today, rankings recovered SLIGHTLY but there's still a drop going on.

Traffic dropped by 20 visitors.

As a lot of my peers said, don't look at it every day, and come back 14 days to see where it's at that then.

So far, have made $600+ ish in revenue.

Working on Niche site #2. I'm looking for a web 2.0 service cheaper than the hoth. if you can recommend one let me know.

This one - I've spent $45 per article, so let's see how this will turn out.

Sandbox 2.0 Makes me want to rip my penis off.

I hope the 2nd domain was either aged (with content on it) or was expiring and you obtained it before it dropped.

I gave up on 10 sites on new domains (Started this project around February, I was thinking, either I need to build these sites or let the domains expire.) As soon as I do any link building they tank and get locked on page 15+. Those sites are getting beaten down by spam and irrelevant content where the words happen to be on the page.

One site I bought social shares, waited a week, built one single PBN link with a branded anchor and three days later, boom, page 15+ on every keyword minus the domain/brand.

If you or anybody else has any incite into this I'd love to hear it.

It's so incredibly frustrating to think "well I can put 10 hours of work into an established site and I'll make more money, or I can work on this new site and it will do me absolutely no good what so ever."

I feel like I'm throwing money into the toilet pretty bad here. Working on an article for a domain I got that was expiring at the moment.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

Sandbox 2.0 Makes me want to rip my penis off.

I hope the 2nd domain was either aged (with content on it) or was expiring and you obtained it before it dropped.

I gave up on 10 sites on new domains (Started this project around February, I was thinking, either I need to build these sites or let the domains expire.) As soon as I do any link building they tank and get locked on page 15+. Those sites are getting beaten down by spam and irrelevant content where the words happen to be on the page.

One site I bought social shares, waited a week, built one single PBN link with a branded anchor and three days later, boom, page 15+ on every keyword minus the domain/brand.

If you or anybody else has any incite into this I'd love to hear it.

It's so incredibly frustrating to think "well I can put 10 hours of work into an established site and I'll make more money, or I can work on this new site and it will do me absolutely no good what so ever."

I feel like I'm throwing money into the toilet pretty bad here. Working on an article for a domain I got that was expiring at the moment.

Where are you getting your social shares?

Right now I'm treating everything as a numbers game.

Niche site two now has keywords toggling page 6-8. NO PBN links have been built yet. Only thing was no follow press releases and just fetching in google when I updated the content.

Currently testing out some web 2.0 purchases from Homepage - PBNButler.

Going to throw 10 pbn links some time this week. Will keep you updated.

Niche site #1 is recovering slowly. I think that happened due to moz cast was at a high peak and I also added two new pbns.

I notice too, when I do build links my keywords have been tanking but I'm hoping that's because they'll jump higher later.

I'm going after 20 sites before the summer is over. Niche site #3 is on its way.

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Originally Posted by GGpaul

Where are you getting your social shares?

Somebody in the Sourcewave Marketplace, I don't want to mention them since they didn't screw anything up.

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Right now I'm treating everything as a numbers game.

Niche site two now has keywords toggling page 6-8. NO PBN links have been built yet. Only thing was no follow press releases and just fetching in google when I updated the content.

Currently testing out some web 2.0 purchases from Homepage - PBNButler.

Going to throw 10 pbn links some time this week. Will keep you updated.

Niche site #1 is recovering slowly. I think that happened due to moz cast was at a high peak and I also added two new pbns.

I notice too, when I do build links my keywords have been tanking but I'm hoping that's because they'll jump higher later.

I'm going after 20 sites before the summer is over. Niche site #3 is on its way.

They will recover sooner or later. It's not a "penalty" it's how it "works" now.

LOL @ algorythm weather report.

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8 years ago

Update

Rankings recovered (this is SEMRUSH by the way).

As of today, my targeted keyword hit rank #1 !! Woo hoo!

I've been building PBN's to it every other week. I'm at that point now where I'm just fixing my on-page, split testing using hotjar as my heatmap, and just adding content every week.

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8 years ago

So - just a recap.

Built site in September 2015. All I did was create an authority site, with several money pages with 4 supporting articles (internal linking).

Keywords went to page 2 some time in month 4.

Month 6 - 8 is where my keywords are in rank 1-5.

I went with press releases, web 2.0's, and then pbns pbns pbns pbns pbns.

I'm going to replicate this process 10x times.

This site is averaging around $60 ish a day. There's still a lot of room for improvement. I have 6 big keywords that I want, and one of them finally hit rank 1. Can't wiat ot get the other 5 keywords.

In the mean time, I'm working on 4 other sites.

Let's go.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

So - just a recap.

Built site in September 2015. All I did was create an authority site, with several money pages with 4 supporting articles (internal linking).

Keywords went to page 2 some time in month 4.

Month 6 - 8 is where my keywords are in rank 1-5.

I went with press releases, web 2.0's, and then pbns pbns pbns pbns pbns.

I'm going to replicate this process 10x times.

This site is averaging around $60 ish a day. There's still a lot of room for improvement. I have 6 big keywords that I want, and one of them finally hit rank 1. Can't wiat ot get the other 5 keywords.

In the mean time, I'm working on 4 other sites.

Let's go.

Hi mate do we need a scraper software to rockin amazon?
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Hi mate do we need a scraper software to rockin amazon?
cheers

Not really recommended. Real content, 1500+ words for reviews, 2k+ for any kind of comparison content. It really does bring great longtail traffic in. (With amazon, usually you just want traffic and it's not critical you rank #1 on your target keyword, it's nice but sometimes it's not worth it, it's usually easier/cheaper just to write more content.)

If you start shorter and the site has some age and some links, sometimes you can just expand the length and quality of the content to walk up the SERP, it does take time for Google to factor in your changes. So, you have to make sure Google actually recrawled the content, then it usually takes 30 days. I usually go in a big loop, starting with content that is doing nothing for me, then content that is doing something, and I usually don't bother tweaking content that's on page one. Usually focus on external factors in that situation.

For physical products, I really like comparison type content 5k+ word length. It really does work. Yeah it's a lot of work (usually takes all day start to finish and I've been doing this for a long time so it's easy for me) but I've really never thought "man that wasn't worth it."

I've got one piece of content that averages about a $2 EPC, that's 2 dollars a click earnings, from google, to the offer. That one piece of content makes about $40 a day, been solid for over a year. Probably my top piece of content. It's not amazon though. Understand that I have a lot of sites and the stars, sun, and moon kind of aligned there. It took all day to write/tweak it, but that's effectively, 20k of income, where all the work was done in one day, so far, I don't really see it falling out of the SERPs any time soon either. It's about 3k words. Also understand that non-amazon/clickbank/jvzoo affiliates are a little bit harder to work with, so if you go through a network like linkshare, filter the companies that seem reasonable and you can work with them, 20% of them will suck big time anyways, 60% will be like "bleh" and 20% are like, "Wow people that do Azon are really missing out..."

Obviously, if they will let you mail it, even the 60% is worth trying to work with if you have an auto responder setup. Which is absolutely where the money is at. If you use a lead magnet and test the opt-in box and the lead maget, you can usually pull %1-2 opt in rate with out using any super annoying shadow box popups.

Note: you can not directly mail azon links, you can link them to your pages with the links on them. This is great because google doesn't opt in to your list, so you can mail links to multiple sites if you want to.
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GGpaul 8 years ago

Originally Posted by dsmith95

Hi mate do we need a scraper software to rockin amazon?
cheers

I never use any type of scraper software.

For content...

People bag on iwriter.com. Actually, there are some good writers out there you just got to get ready to reject a ton of people til you find the right one .

The best way to get a good writer is to be clear as possible and having a ton of instructions. By doing that, you know who the hell is actually copying content, spinning content vs who is actually paying close attention to what you want and actually writing them.

Here's my template when I use "special isntructions" on iwriter that's been super effective..

"The article MUST be unique and original. It will be thoroughly checked for scraping and spinning. The article intent is for the reader to want to buy the product.

Amazon.com : Ironmaster Super Bench Adjustable...

Which is the product. However, please do further research so you can write your own review.

Each product review should be 500-700 words. Please reference the example review (Go to the URL below)

example URL

Please do not explicity state you purchased or have owned the product, HOWEVER, you can imply or use vague language. Below are the opening paragraphs of the example/sample review. Notice how it almost sounds like they bought it without coming out and saying it...
""The Cuisinart CBT-1000 PowerEdge is a great blender, and if your household is anything like mine, then your family will love the convenience of being able to blend their own fruit smoothies whenever the mood takes them.
Our old blender was starting to make funny sounds, so I thought it time to look out for a new blender. Of all the blenders I researched, one stood out above all the rest the Cuisinart CBT-1000 PowerEdge. I liked it so much that I decided to share my research findings with you.""
The number of words for each section serves as a general guideline. Please use your best judgement. If a particular product warrants more/less content, please adjust accordingly.
Do not copy an entire Amazon review. You can use snippets (with ellipses) or summarize it. Example: ""It's so great...our whole family loves it"".

Introduction paragraph (or two) to the product - 50-100 words
First key feature Heading
First key feature paragraph (or two) about the feature - 50-100 words
Second key feature Heading/a
Second key feature paragraph (or two) about the feature50-100 words
A list in bullet points of the main product features and specifications50-100 words
A second link to the product using exact phrase/a
Customer reviews and scores Headinng/a
A paragraph summarizing the top one reasons/feature why reviewers love the product. Briefly summarize why that particular feature makes it great.30-50 words
A paragraph stating how many customer reviews there are in Amazon for the product, and the average score they have given it.20-40 words
A paragraph listing one of the negative points mentioned by customers in their reviews. Summarize the negative review30-50 words
A paragraph then pointing out the other side (try to turn the negative into less of negative) of the coin, so to speak, and ending on a very positive note.30-50 words
A one sentence paragraph stating how confident you are recommending the product 15-30 words
A third link to the product using exact phrase-n/a
A conclusion, briefly summarizing the main points of your review 40-80 words"
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GGpaul

8 years ago

I just made my first $100 in one day for this amazon affiliate site. I'm almost done with this site, just tightening up the on-page.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Testing out seolyze https://www.seolyze.com right now to see what my competitors are doing specifically for on-page.

Pretty fun. Never thought I'd get back into affiliate sites lol.

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GGpaul

8 years ago

Perhaps one of you guys can answer this...

Hey guys, let's say I have the home page, and then 4 supporting articles. 4 of those supporting articles happens to be the $$ (main target pages). How would you distribute your backlinks ? 50% to home page , 10% on article 1, 10% on article 2, 10 % on article 3, 10% article 4? Or???

And this is assumption that everything is silo'd properly, so you have those 4 supporting articles with internal links from the home page. but you're not trying to rank the home page as it's not really the "Money" page.
so is there really a # / percentage of how you distribute your backlinks. Or do you just put your backlinks to which page is ranking higher and u focus your attention there? While just creating links to the home page to make it "natural" ?

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Great post man!

I am looking into getting back to the Amazon affiliate program. What sounds a bit hard for me at the moment is picking the right niche and appropriate keywords. Have any additional tips for this?

Also, may be off topic, but I've re-applied to the amazon associates program and as a website put a blogspot blog which has several posts. Not sure if I am allowed to link to it here, but blog posts are several years old, although still getting some visits. Any chance that they could reject me? And am I allowed to make the first sale from some other website or it must be exactly that one?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Great post man!

I am looking into getting back to the Amazon affiliate program. What sounds a bit hard for me at the moment is picking the right niche and appropriate keywords. Have any additional tips for this?

Also, may be off topic, but I've re-applied to the amazon associates program and as a website put a blogspot blog which has several posts. Not sure if I am allowed to link to it here, but blog posts are several years old, although still getting some visits. Any chance that they could reject me? And am I allowed to make the first sale from some other website or it must be exactly that one?

1) For finding keywords, I find a big authority website. Let's say, walmart.com or even better bestproducts.com. From there, I'll look at all the keywords they're ranking for by using SEMRUSH. I'll then look at the volume, and see if these are buying keywords (best, top rated, reviews, etc.). I'll go on Google and see if I see an affiliate site ranked on the first page. If I see one, boom I go for the kill.

2) You should be fine with the blogspot site. And yeah, I submitted a BS site a long time ago, and instead I started monetizing another site. So it doesn't matter

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

1) For finding keywords, I find a big authority website. Let's say, walmart.com or even better bestproducts.com. From there, I'll look at all the keywords they're ranking for by using SEMRUSH. I'll then look at the volume, and see if these are buying keywords (best, top rated, reviews, etc.). I'll go on Google and see if I see an affiliate site ranked on the first page. If I see one, boom I go for the kill.

2) You should be fine with the blogspot site. And yeah, I submitted a BS site a long time ago, and instead I started monetizing another site. So it doesn't matter

Thank you very much!

Any alternatives to the semrush that I could use before I get it?

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GGpaul 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Thank you very much! Any alternatives to the semrush that I could use before I get it?

Semrush has a free trial I think.
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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I've tried to do some research, but having hard time deciding on which niche to go. There are affiliate sites everywhere with really good content. Do you have any limit of how many affiliate sites would you go against on the first page?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

I've tried to do some research, but having hard time deciding on which niche to go. There are affiliate sites everywhere with really good content. Do you have any limit of how many affiliate sites would you go against on the first page?

The more affiliate sites I see on the first page, the more I'm inclined in going for it! LOL.

If I see dickingsports, walmart, amazon, target, bestbuy, etc. (big ecommerce sites) dominating the first pages...then I move on to the next keyword / niche.

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Danijel Bjelancevic 7 years ago

How is your second site doing?
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  Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic
  
  How is your second site doing?
  
  Site 2 is stuck on page 3.
  
  Site 3 is now ranked 9-11. If I can get site 3 to rank 1-3 with several keywords, then it's projected at 4k a month. I'm stoked for that.
  
  Site 2 is just not budging for some reason. I'll figure that out later.
  
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  Originally Posted by GGpaul
  
  Site 2 is just not budging for some reason. I'll figure that out later.
  
  You sure about your on page work on number 2??
  
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  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  You sure about your on page work on number 2??
  
  Looking into it. I suspect it's my internal links / anchor texts. Additionally, supporting pages.
  
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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I picked a niche btw, it might be that it's not very popular, but if it get ranked for several keywords then it should be fine. I was wondering if you are able to review it after I get few posts up? I can help you in return with any programming/design tasks.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

I picked a niche btw, it might be that it's not very popular, but if it get ranked for several keywords then it should be fine. I was wondering if you are able to review it after I get few posts up? I can help you in return with any programming/design tasks.

Yeah man send it over. I'll give you some insight / tips.

Don't worry about helping me in return.

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Can you give more info around SILO structure you are using? Where do you link to supporting pages? Do you have categories in menus?
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  Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic
  
  Can you give more info around SILO structure you are using? Where do you link to supporting pages? Do you have categories in menus?
  
  Sometimes I just go on wikipedia and gather ideas...
  
  But here's what I do.
  
  Money Page - "Handheld Tablets"
  
  Supporting page - "Types of Tablets"
  Supporting page - "History of Tablets"
  Supporting page - "Popular Brands"
  
  All those linking back to handheld tablets..
  
  These are all within the content (contextual)
  
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xnice

7 years ago

I follow your thread, it is exciting. I used to success with Amz aff in 2013. Now, I back to the game and feel hard to rank the keywords. I try blog comment with manually now and see it works or not.
I have a question for you. Why did your income of 1st site decrease from $100 to $50/day? Did you update it frequently?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by xnice

I follow your thread, it is exciting. I used to success with Amz aff in 2013. Now, I back to the game and feel hard to rank the keywords. I try blog comment with manually now and see it works or not.
I have a question for you. Why did your income of 1st site decrease from $100 to $50/day? Did you update it frequently?

Sorry, where did I say that my 1st site decrease? haha.

Just to clarify I made $750 in ONE day.

Blog comment won't do you much, or anything if rather.

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xnice 7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Sorry, where did I say that my 1st site decrease? haha.

Just to clarify I made $750 in ONE day.

Blog comment won't do you much, or anything if rather.

Great. This is my goal too . I think you will reach $1k/day soon.
If you have budget, you can use outreach guest post at other bloggers. I think this is less risk than PBN.
I see my traffic increase when I do blog comment at authority site. Therefore I will try, it cost less than PBN but take time .
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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I had trouble with article order, I've gone with a freelancer site and this guy is taking forever to write product reviews. I will probably cancel him and try to find someone else or just go to iWriter. Do you write main money pages yourself or ordering the content from somewhere?

Also, if you took fairly similar approach for all of your sites, why do you think sites 2 and 3 are still stuck? They maybe just need more time or competition is too hard?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

I had trouble with article order, I've gone with a freelancer site and this guy is taking forever to write product reviews. I will probably cancel him and try to find someone else or just go to iWriter. Do you write main money pages yourself or ordering the content from somewhere?

Also, if you took fairly similar approach for all of your sites, why do you think sites 2 and 3 are still stuck? They maybe just need more time or competition is too hard?

I use a guy named Jed. I can link you up.

Scratching my head with site 2 and 3. Maybe I need to add more content .

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ibuywireless 7 years ago

i havent been able to find that Matt Diggity guy on the facebook page about the PBN's do you have a link to his services?
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7 years ago

Thought I'd update this for those that care.

My affiliate site has been on a steady pace at $1,200-1,500 a month. Roughly around 180-240 visitors a day. Right now I"m working on CRO by using optimizely for A/B testing.

However, I do spend about $250 for my monthly backlinks. Currently spending on PBN's (rental). Yes, I'm lazy in setting up my own PBN's.

I have a total of 30 PBN's for this site. Not sure if I went for the overkill, but I want to make sure I stay on the top >=).

I've diversified my anchor texts with the following..
target keyword
target + misc (click here to read more about puppy food)
naked urls

Each money page has about 2500 words with 10 internal supporting pages.

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7 years ago

One of the tools that I really like is seolyze.com

It's a german site but you can switch to english. You pop in a keyword, and it'll analyze the top 10 competitors and will break it down for you as far as each sites number of h1 tags, h2 tags, h3 tags. It will also show you a graph of keywords that are important, and individual keyword that you should increase OR even decrease; as well as what keywords to add in your content.

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7 years ago

Hi,

In your post you mentioned Silo Structure and fortunatly I developed wordpress theme based on Genesis framework in SILO structure, If you would like i can share you the link and you can give me some reviews regarding this.

thank you.

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ninjawin

7 years ago

Hi , nice work there. Congrats on your success. I've been doing adsense and affiliate marketing for too long and amazon affiliate sound interesting.

Do you take questions ? If yes..

1) How do you find a category or product to sell ?
2) Do you do keyword research ? and how do you do it ?
3) Which PR sites do you use ? and which are Google-friendly , do you use a service to submit to all sites at once?
4) How do you design infographics ? do you outsource it ?

Thanks.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by ninjawin

Hi , nice work there. Congrats on your success. I've been doing adsense and affiliate marketing for too long and amazon affiliate sound interesting.

Do you take questions ? If yes..

1) How do you find a category or product to sell ?
2) Do you do keyword research ? and how do you do it ?
3) Which PR sites do you use ? and which are Google-friendly , do you use a service to submit to all sites at once?
4) How do you design infographics ? do you outsource it ?

Thanks.

1 and 2 are very similar. As mentioned earlier, you can go to bestproducts.com slap on semrush and get all the keywords with "best" in it. From there, I manually go through each keyword (with a min of 1000 searches), and see if it has a ton of affiliate sites on the first page. If so, I go for it.
2) Press release sites? I use press synergy.
3) Infographics, I use fiverr. I don't really do a lot of infographics.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

1 and 2 are very similar. As mentioned earlier, you can go to bestproducts.com slap on semrush and get all the keywords with "best" in it. From there, I manually go through each keyword (with a min of 1000 searches), and see if it has a ton of affiliate sites on the first page. If so, I go for it.
2) Press release sites? I use press synergy.
3) Infographics, I use fiverr. I don't really do a lot of infographics.

ok thanks for the valuable information.

2) I can't find press synergy. could you pls share the link ? tq!

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7 years ago

Hi Paul,

I've been quietly reading your thread for a couple of weeks now...good and interesting stuff...

I have quite a few questions for you that I hope you don't mind answering about your 1st site that you started with and are doing pretty good with...

1. When you first created the site back in September 2015 how many pages did you initially create?

2. How many pages does that site have now and do you plan on creating more pages?

3. In your opinion is it okay to start a new site out with 100+ pages? If so or if not, could you explain why?

4. Based on your OP it seems like it took about 6 months to get any traction with ranking even for long tail keyword phrases (late September 2015 til late March 2016)...in the first few weeks to couple of months were you getting any traffic and any affiliate commissions? If not, when did both of those things start happening?

5. Is the silo structure very tight for this site (as warrior Yukon) describes or are there a few leaks?

In your opinion if there are only a few leaks for a site is that still better than not attempting to silo structure a site at all or does it seriously dilute the effectiveness of silo structuring a site/if the site isn't done "perfectly" in a silo structure it doesn't work at all?

I ask because especially with blogging platforms like Wordpress it's hard to find a theme/template with no leaks and if you don't know how to edit the theme/template in a way to get rid of the leaks then there's no way not to have leaks when attempting to create a site in a silo structure...

6. How do you interlink your pages within your silo structure(s)...at the end of the content on pages, within the content, at the beginning of the content, or is a mixture on the site?

Moreover, what do you think of the following observations warrior Yukon (who I consider the most knowledgeable about silo structures on the WF) made in a post (a long time ago...and hopefully he doesn't mind me repeating it here) about what could be seen as a limitation on the number of supporting pages based on where the interlinking occurs:

You have a few options for the location of the links on the pages:

Links in sidebar
Links in content
Links below content (recommended/related post)
Links in CSS3

Links in the sidebar are ok, the catch is getting WP (Wordpress) to only display a list of links in a single category of the page your currently viewing. That might not sound like a big deal, but that's what controls your silo from leaking out in random directions.

Links in content are ok, like you mentioned your not going to want 30 supporting page anchor-text URLs spread out over a 500 word article, that would be horrible as a user experience.

Links below content as related post would be ok, with maybe 10 or less anchor-text links.

Links in CSS3 is a very good option that will allow you to do simple things like tabs. Each tab can hold a large number of links for example you might have 30 supporting pages...

7. What sort of external backlinking strategy would you recommend to people who don't have the time/money to create PBNs and create tiered backlinking?

Any sort of direct backlinking (backlinking without tier 1, tier 2, etc.) you can recommend outside of guest blogging/posting, blog commenting, infographics, press releases, spamming (lol), etc?

8. For your affiliate links do you hide/mask them in any way? Also, do you think that "naked" affiliate links (affiliate links that aren't hidden/masked) make it harder to rank in the SERPS? It seems that Google and other search engines have been at war with affiliates and their affiliate sites over the years...

9. You mentioned with your 3rd site that if you can get it to rank 1-3 for a number of keyword phrases that you estimate that it would pull in $4K in affiliate commissions...if you don't mind me asking what's in pulling in now being ranked 9-11 for some of those keyword phrases?

10. When working on a site when/how do you decide to throw in the towel on a site that isn't ranking well and ultimately isn't really making any money?

My apologies for all the questions but I haven't been involved in SEO for a number of years and I've only read some of what's been going on over the years as far as the SEO landscape...

It's also been awhile since I've been on the WF...so long that I had to create a new account because I couldn't remember/find my username...

Answer to my above questions would be greatly appreciated.

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7 years ago

I've been quietly reading your thread for a couple of weeks now...good and interesting stuff...

I have quite a few questions for you that I hope you don't mind answering about your 1st site that you started with and are doing pretty good with...

1. When you first created the site back in September 2015 how many pages did you initially create? I created 12 pages.

2. How many pages does that site have now and do you plan on creating more pages?
I have 37 pages and I definitely plan on expanding!

3. In your opinion is it okay to start a new site out with 100+ pages? If so or if not, could you explain why?
Definitely! Authoritative sites are the way to go!

4. Based on your OP it seems like it took about 6 months to get any traction with ranking even for long tail keyword phrases (late September 2015 til late March 2016)...in the first few weeks to couple of months were you getting any traffic and any affiliate commissions? If not, when did both of those things start happening?
I didn't get any traffic or commissions at all until March.

5. Is the silo structure very tight for this site (as warrior Yukon) describes or are there a few leaks?

There are some leaks, I'll have a sidebar menu with pages and what not. The key here is the anchor text, and the keywords around the anchor text that's linking within the site. Additionally, having those supportive pages link back to your money page.

6. How do you interlink your pages within your silo structure(s)...at the end of the content on pages, within the content, at the beginning of the content, or is a mixture on the site?

I learned a lot from Yukon, and I typically have all my silo structure within the content and definitely a mixture.

7. What sort of external backlinking strategy would you recommend to people who don't have the time/money to create PBNs and create tiered backlinking?

Typically I start with social signals from pbnbutler, and from there I look for PBN's from several vendors. You can start with https://domainshighway.net/ for pbns as well. Cheap price.

8. For your affiliate links do you hide/mask them in any way? Also, do you think that "naked" affiliate links (affiliate links that aren't hidden/masked) make it harder to rank in the SERPS? It seems that Google and other search engines have been at war with affiliates and their affiliate sites over the years...

All my affiliate links are naked. I don't want to risk getting my account banned from Amazon.

9. You mentioned with your 3rd site that if you can get it to rank 1-3 for a number of keyword phrases that you estimate that it would pull in $4K in affiliate commissions...if you don't mind me asking what's in pulling in now being ranked 9-11 for some of those keyword phrases?

Ranked 9-11 barely anything as they're long tail keywords.

10. When working on a site when/how do you decide to throw in the towel on a site that isn't ranking well and ultimately isn't really making any money?

I think if I'm stuck on page 3 for over a year, I'll throw in the towel. As well as more than 10 PBN's and every on-page is tightened up.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I've been quietly reading your thread for a couple of weeks now...good and interesting stuff...

I have quite a few questions for you that I hope you don't mind answering about your 1st site that you started with and are doing pretty good with...

1. When you first created the site back in September 2015 how many pages did you initially create? I created 12 pages.

2. How many pages does that site have now and do you plan on creating more pages?
I have 37 pages and I definitely plan on expanding!

3. In your opinion is it okay to start a new site out with 100+ pages? If so or if not, could you explain why?
Definitely! Authoritative sites are the way to go!

4. Based on your OP it seems like it took about 6 months to get any traction with ranking even for long tail keyword phrases (late September 2015 til late March 2016)...in the first few weeks to couple of months were you getting any traffic and any affiliate commissions? If not, when did both of those things start happening?
I didn't get any traffic or commissions at all until March.

5. Is the silo structure very tight for this site (as warrior Yukon) describes or are there a few leaks?

There are some leaks, I'll have a sidebar menu with pages and what not. The key here is the anchor text, and the keywords around the anchor text that's linking within the site. Additionally, having those supportive pages link back to your money page.

6. How do you interlink your pages within your silo structure(s)...at the end of the content on pages, within the content, at the beginning of the content, or is a mixture on the site?

I learned a lot from Yukon, and I typically have all my silo structure within the content and definitely a mixture.

7. What sort of external backlinking strategy would you recommend to people who don't have the time/money to create PBNs and create tiered backlinking?

Typically I start with social signals from pbnbutler, and from there I look for PBN's from several vendors. You can start with https://domainshighway.net/ for pbns as well. Cheap price.

8. For your affiliate links do you hide/mask them in any way? Also, do you think that "naked" affiliate links (affiliate links that aren't hidden/masked) make it harder to rank in the SERPS? It seems that Google and other search engines have been at war with affiliates and their affiliate sites over the years...

All my affiliate links are naked. I don't want to risk getting my account banned from Amazon.

9. You mentioned with your 3rd site that if you can get it to rank 1-3 for a number of keyword phrases that you estimate that it would pull in $4K in affiliate commissions...if you don't mind me asking what's in pulling in now being ranked 9-11 for some of those keyword phrases?

Ranked 9-11 barely anything as they're long tail keywords.

10. When working on a site when/how do you decide to throw in the towel on a site that isn't ranking well and ultimately isn't really making any money?

I think if I'm stuck on page 3 for over a year, I'll throw in the towel. As well as more than 10 PBN's and every on-page is tightened up.

How many social shares do you not all start with? Which package?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

How many social shares do you not all start with? Which package?

200 social signals is more than enough. https://www.pbnbutler.com/product/200-signals/

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ibuywireless

7 years ago

I' doing a similar project yours for my blog so this post has been insanely helpful along with some other stuff from spencer haws. What backlink strategy do you recommend I see you got some PBN's and web 2.0s but dont these type of sites get the google banhammer?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

I' doing a similar project yours for my blog so this post has been insanely helpful along with some other stuff from spencer haws. What backlink strategy do you recommend I see you got some PBN's and web 2.0s but dont these type of sites get the google banhammer?

For amazon affiliate sites I'm all in with PBN's. There's always a risk of my site getting hit by the google banhammer. Even if it weren't pbn's. Any link building in my opinion that's unnatural could potentially get dinged.

My mindset is really all or nothing. I took the risk a year ago and the site hasn't gotten dinged (yet), but my goal is to milk it as much as I can.

Also, it's important to find the right vendor (if you buy PBN's), or make them yourself. Make sure the PBN's are well protected and are top quality. I don't have time to make a PBN or learn how to make one (I know Mike Anthony will make fun of me on this one).

Now if I had a full on brand / large authoritative website (not an amazon affiliate site), I'll have a different approach.

There's money to be made that there's no time to be scared of the banhammer.

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7 years ago

Hey Paul,

Would be excited to hear how your websites did on Blackfriday. I see some serious jumps in order and traffic on mine. Share some stats please.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by michaelkoehler92

Hey Paul,

Would be excited to hear how your websites did on Blackfriday. I see some serious jumps in order and traffic on mine. Share some stats please.

I made $750 yesterday, off of 108 sold items.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Also, I run an SEO Skype Mastermind group with 32 active members. if you're interested let me know.

Couple rules,

1) You have to be active. You have to contribute.
2) Be cool as hell.

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7 years ago

I follow your thread. As I'm newbie, I have very less idea how much I have to invest if I wanna launch a niche site?

Which paid tools are must for niche site building? Do you have any complete guideline or refer to any to learn this business fully?? I would like to join your group. Thanks.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by RapidLearner

I follow your thread. As I'm newbie, I have very less idea how much I have to invest if I wanna launch a niche site?

Which paid tools are must for niche site building? Do you have any complete guideline or refer to any to learn this business fully?? I would like to join your group. Thanks.

SEMRUSH is ALL you need.

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7 years ago

You mentioned you buy social signals how do those help?

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Originally Posted by ibuywireless

You mentioned you buy social signals how do those help?

Psychological factor, makes the user believe "oh shit it's credible"

I haven't fully tested it out, but I suspect that if Google sees your site with all these backlinks they would wonder "well how the hell did this site get visibility? " Well if there are social signals it would show in "google's" eyes that you shared your content through social media which is how you got these 'natural links' (although they're not natural lol).

I try to mold it after an actual product / brand. What do you do when you make a site? You create it's social account(s), and you share your content / brand all over the web and make a press release. That's what I'm molding it to.
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GGpaul

7 years ago

Also,

This article will help you as well..

https://www.brandbuilders.io/31-tips...iate-earnings/

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Also,

You want to have an anchor text that links back to your main money page from your supportive page..

Mototec 1600w Dirt Electric Skateboard Review - BestElectricSkateboardGuide

have an anchor text going to the homepage.

mix it up with misc anchor text, targeted keyword, naked url..

Check out this video. You might like it.

Link Building vs Penguin 4.0 - Charles Floate...

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Check this out as well..

http://www.linkresearchtools.com/wp-...le-Penguin.pdf

Damn I'm hooking ya'll up! I hope you guys kill it!

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GGpaul

7 years ago

ibuypowerwireless to a little more in-depth with "do social signals do much?" here's an article..

Do Social Signals Really Boost PBN Links?

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7 years ago

Now to answer your question about backlink strategy...it really is this..

Social signals
PBN's.

The trick here is your anchor text used on your PBN's. Mix it up such as..

"check out this article on mini scooters"
"read about the top 10 scooters"
"http://sitename.com/scooters"
"www.sitename.com"
"scooter reviews"

etc. etc.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Now to answer your question about backlink strategy...it really is this..

Social signals
PBN's.

The trick here is your anchor text used on your PBN's. Mix it up such as..

"check out this article on mini scooters"
"read about the top 10 scooters"
"http://sitename.com/scooters"
"www.sitename.com"
"scooter reviews"

etc. etc.

First of all THANK YOU! Theres so much conflicting crap online its hard to know wich direction to go.

May I ask you where you recommend purchasing PBN's?
Do you need to mix up where you buy them?
And to clarify your saying the best strategy is to buy social signals and direct them at your pbns to increase link juice to your money site?

Sorry for so many questions

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

First of all THANK YOU! Theres so much conflicting crap online its hard to know wich direction to go.

May I ask you where you recommend purchasing PBN's?
Do you need to mix up where you buy them?
And to clarify your saying the best strategy is to buy social signals and direct them at your pbns to increase link juice to your money site?

Sorry for so many questions

Check this FB page out for PBN's https://www.facebook.com/groups/595138070592732/
I usually use one vendor that I like named matt diggity.

Social signals to money page and then pbns to money page. That works for ME. For others it may be different.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Update:

December has been looking great. Averaging around $120-$150 a day now.

Niche site 2 is stuck at rank 17-22.

Niche site 3 is at rank 9 - 15.

Specifically, my targeted keywords.

Niche site 4 is ranked at 33 with NO backlinks.

Niche site 1 - I'm going to squeeze the lemon as much as possible the nsell the site. Move on.

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ibuywireless 7 years ago

what do you mean by this, what has to happen before you decide to sell off a site?
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  Originally Posted by ibuywireless
  
  what do you mean by this, what has to happen before you decide to sell off a site?
  
  3 months average earnings x 20.
  
  Then I'm going to flip it.
  
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7 years ago

diggitymarketing dot com

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Just out of curiosity you had 349 clicks to the offer... how much traffic across your site was there to get those 349?
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  Originally Posted by savidge4
  
  Just out of curiosity you had 349 clicks to the offer... how much traffic across your site was there to get those 349?
  
  Sure. I got that data ready for you.
  
  yesterday, 456 sessions, 433 visitors, 686 total page views from GA.
  
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  Sure. I got that data ready for you.
  
  yesterday, 456 sessions, 433 visitors, 686 total page views from GA.
  
  Also I need to be mindful, that there's a 24 hour cookie saved so those clicks can also be from the visitors prior.
  
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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I am worried about my first sale, since I had to re-apply for the Amazon account because it was deactivated due to inactivity. It might pass 90 day period before I start to get sales. Any tips on how to deal with this?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

I am worried about my first sale, since I had to re-apply for the Amazon account because it was deactivated due to inactivity. It might pass 90 day period before I start to get sales. Any tips on how to deal with this?

Hmmm that's odd. I was inactive for 3 years came back and same thing? Shouldn't be a problem.

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Danijel Bjelancevic 7 years ago

Congratulations! Would you still be able to answer some questions? I tried to reach you about the Skype group without success.
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  Congratulations! Would you still be able to answer some questions? I tried to reach you about the Skype group without success.
  
  My bad what was your question.
  
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7 years ago

Can't remember now what I specifically wanted to ask, but currently I am concerned about my first sale, since I think it will go past 90 days until I start getting traffic. Do you have any ideas about how to deal with this? Is it forbidden that someone else put my link on their site for a short period of time just for that one sale?

I've decided to go for a 1300 searches per month keyword, lot of affiliate sites and difficulty on kwfinder is 37. Can't remember what was the diff on semrush, but it wasn't high too. Money page has 4K words and 7 supporting articles so far. I've ordered social signals and after they started kicking in my page was ranked on 6-10 page for several keywords. I've also ordered one PBN link for $65 on a domain with DA of 49, should that help for a start or I overpaid for it? I will order some others from different vendors too. What do you think about my start? I just need to see if I missed anything for on page SEO.

All in all, you helped a lot and I hope I will be back in the game too!

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Can't remember now what I specifically wanted to ask, but currently I am concerned about my first sale, since I think it will go past 90 days until I start getting traffic. Do you have any ideas about how to deal with this? Is it forbidden that someone else put my link on their site for a short period of time just for that one sale?

I've decided to go for a 1300 searches per month keyword, lot of affiliate sites and difficulty on kwfinder is 37. Can't remember what was the diff on semrush, but it wasn't high too. Money page has 4K words and 7 supporting articles so far. I've ordered social signals and after they started kicking in my page was ranked on 6-10 page for several keywords. I've also ordered one PBN link for $65 on a domain with DA of 49, should that help for a start or I overpaid for it? I will order some others from different vendors too. What do you think about my start? I just need to see if I missed anything for on page SEO.

All in all, you helped a lot and I hope I will be back in the game too!

How old is the site? How soon did you buy the PBN after you launched the site? Usually I just throw content, and then come back a couple months and boom it's ranked.

As for sales, I don't get that....Because I was inactive for 5 years and then I came back and was able to have my account still through amazon affiliate.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Can't remember now what I specifically wanted to ask, but currently I am concerned about my first sale, since I think it will go past 90 days until I start getting traffic. Do you have any ideas about how to deal with this? Is it forbidden that someone else put my link on their site for a short period of time just for that one sale?

I've decided to go for a 1300 searches per month keyword, lot of affiliate sites and difficulty on kwfinder is 37. Can't remember what was the diff on semrush, but it wasn't high too. Money page has 4K words and 7 supporting articles so far. I've ordered social signals and after they started kicking in my page was ranked on 6-10 page for several keywords. I've also ordered one PBN link for $65 on a domain with DA of 49, should that help for a start or I overpaid for it? I will order some others from different vendors too. What do you think about my start? I just need to see if I missed anything for on page SEO.

All in all, you helped a lot and I hope I will be back in the game too!

You need time for ranking. With new site, it requires 3-6 months.
I have the keywords similar to your keywords (difficulty). One DA 49 backlinks will not help your site rank higher. It needs at least 10-15 backlinks from authority site (real website, blog). The PBN link with $65 is costly, you can buy it with $10-$20 per link.

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Danijel Bjelancevic 7 years ago

Site is pretty young. I followed your example and ordered social signals and after that I've ordered a PBN link. I just noticed all of my keywords are not in top 100 again. Is that normal behavior for a new site?
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Yeah it takes time to achieve a good rank. I guess the only thing left to do now is to build links and keep adding new content.
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7 years ago

Yeah it makes sense. But I have a wife and a full time job, so I'm a bit tight with time. But yeah I am considering starting another one too. Does it make sense to have few money pages on the same site? Targeting different keywords but in the same niche area.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Yeah it makes sense. But I have a wife and a full time job, so I'm a bit tight with time. But yeah I am considering starting another one too. Does it make sense to have few money pages on the same site? Targeting different keywords but in the same niche area.

You can do it. I have a full time job too, and I do client work, plus affiliate marketing. You can do it you'll find a way

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You can have as many money pages as you want on the same site.

Look at bestproducts.com.

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Danijel Bjelancevic 7 years ago

Yeah so what I'm thinking is to create authority site in one niche. I started to get up an hour earlier before work
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I have a money page with lot of text, images, videos etc. The page is reviewing 5 products and has additional general content of how to use the products etc. I also have a separate reviews for each of these products which are 800 words each. Weird thing is that one of these products is ranking better for the main keyword than the money page is.

Should that mean that something can be wrong with the on page SEO for my money page? Or it's just because the site is new?

I've run MOZ on page analyzer tool and it was given A grade.
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7 years ago

Thanks Danijel,
I have another question:

How much do you spend for each new amazon aff website until it got money itself? And whats the budget for each job? Ie: how much for PBN, how much for Social Signals? How much for blog comments...etc

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by e-service

How much do you spend for each new amazon aff website until it got money itself? And whats the budget for each job? Ie: how much for PBN, how much for Social Signals? How much for blog comments...etc

It really depends on competition. If they have no links, you will need few together with good content and time. You can get 200 social signals from pbnbutler.com for $14. PBN prices vary a lot. Regarding blog comments, I wouldn't bother with these. But all in all, time is something that is always required. So prepare not to lose your patience and motivation!

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DeveloperDan

7 years ago

Are you converting visitors to leads, leads to customers? If so at what rate? Thanks for posting.

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GGpaul 7 years ago

Originally Posted by DeveloperDan

Are you converting visitors to leads, leads to customers? If so at what rate? Thanks for posting.

User types in a query in Google. Google clicks on rank #1 of organic listings in the SERPS. That #1 rank site is mine. User reads the content, and clicks on the link. Which is an amazon affiliate link. User then decides whether or not they buy the product. From there, I get the conversion.

For this month..

Total Items Shipped: 380
Total Earnings: $1,715.97
Total Ordered Items: 383
Clicks 3,307
Conversion: 11.58%
Referral Rate: 7.50%
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GGpaul

7 years ago

Big day yesterday

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Here's a tip. Add native ads, and have a table near the fold. Comparison tables FOR THE WIN.

Native ads alone increased my revenue by 40% MoM.

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I've contacted support and they've told me that account was locked due to the inactivity and that I need to re-apply. Just not sure how to get my first sale then...

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Just an update. I've decided to sell my website at 26k at empirefilppas. I'm happy with it! Reason for selling? Going to buy a wedding ring for my gf, and of course, invest back into the business.

2017 - goal is to build a total of 24 websites

I may or may not update this thread but we'll see!

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michaelkoehler92

7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Just an update. I've decided to sell my website at 26k at empirefilppas. I'm happy with it! Reason for selling? Going to buy a wedding ring for my gf, and of course, invest back into the business.

2017 - goal is to build a total of 24 websites

I may or may not update this thread but we'll see!

Wow that's a good decision but do you think 26k is a fine amount? Going by the stats I think your website might be making somewhere between $3k - $5k so it should go for little higher.

Overall it's a good investment and I am wishing that your new projects brings more money to you.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Originally Posted by michaelkoehler92

Wow that's a good decision but do you think 26k is a fine amount? Going by the stats I think your website might be making somewhere between $3k - $5k so it should go for little higher.

Overall it's a good investment and I am wishing that your new projects brings more money to you.

I'm happy with it. The main reason why I wanted to sell it is because I felt like I peaked, and I wanted to sell it at a "safe zone". Plus, I want to propose soon. And the rest of the cash I can invest back into my business. I have other capital too so I'm not too worried. Ultimately, it was just to sell it at the safe side.

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Mike Anthony

7 years ago

Congrats on getting it to that point. If there were more like you still around new people would be making real money but since there aren't neither of us posts much anymore.

Just dropped in to make my congratulations public.

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I'm happy with it. The main reason why I wanted to sell it is because I felt like I peaked, and I wanted to sell it at a "safe zone". Plus, I want to propose soon. And the rest of the cash I can invest back into my business. I have other capital too so I'm not too worried. Ultimately, it was just to sell it at the safe side.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Knowing what I know now...

I would dish out at least 2 websites a month. Strictly just CONTENT. Silo structure and everything. And then, I'll come back around month 2-3 and start link building. That's just me.

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ibuywireless

7 years ago

so how long before i should start seing results i added a bunch of web 2.0 like 10 web 2.0 back links and 2 diggity pbn links. Was wondering is this enough to see a result?

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

so how long before i should start seing results i added a bunch of web 2.0 like 10 web 2.0 back links and 2 diggity pbn links. Was wondering is this enough to see a result?

Sup bro. Were the web 2.0's manual?

Typically it starts with a launch of the site, with your social fortress fb, ig, twitter, etc. Week two you start with the social signal blast but make sure the pages are indexed. Week three you send 1 pbn link to money site. Week for send another pbn link. Week 5 and 6 start building 2 more pbn links.

How's your anchor text? Don't be too aggressive with them.

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ibuywireless

7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Sup bro. Were the web 2.0's manual?

Typically it starts with a launch of the site, with your social fortress fb, ig, twitter, etc. Week two you start with the social signal blast but make sure the pages are indexed. Week three you send 1 pbn link to money site. Week for send another pbn link. Week 5 and 6 start building 2 more pbn links.

How's your anchor text? Don't be too aggressive with them.

update to this, yes i created my own web 2.0's manually wasnt sure what I was doing but I am now ranking on page 1 for multiple keywords starting aproximately the 15th of this month. My site generated $250 so far. In hindsight, this niche has relatively low search volume but this is still not bad because the niche has high ticket items(the cheapest is around $300 and they range up to $1500)

So now I have decided to start another site(approx 10 days ago) I am just throwing content at it right now.
How long do you recommned before I order social signals, start building web 2.0's, ordering pbn links? Also is it better to direct links to internal pages or just to the home page

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

update to this, yes i created my own web 2.0's manually wasnt sure what I was doing but I am now ranking on page 1 for multiple keywords starting aproximately the 15th of this month. My site generated $250 so far. In hindsight, this niche has relatively low search volume but this is still not bad because the niche has high ticket items(the cheapest is around $300 and they range up to $1500)

So now I have decided to start another site(approx 10 days ago) I am just throwing content at it right now.
How long do you recommned before I order social signals, start building web 2.0's, ordering pbn links? Also is it better to direct links to internal pages or just to the home page

I'd order social signals once your pages are indexed. Make sure you post them on your social platforms too. PBN links I'd do it a couple days after the social signals are showing on your site.

What do you mean by direct links to internal pages? Do you have inner pages that are money pages? I think it's good to have links diverse throughout the site instead of just the homepage as that could raise a red flag to Google.

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Nabaleka

7 years ago

Well, you given me so much hope in my Amazon affiliate journey.

One question, do you use posts or pages on WordPress? and does it really matter whether you are using posts or pages?

This is in regards with SILO structure.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Nabaleka

Well, you given me so much hope in my Amazon affiliate journey.

One question, do you use posts or pages on WordPress? and does it really matter whether you are using posts or pages?

This is in regards with SILO structure.

Great question.

For the site that I sold, I did all posts and it performed better than niche site 2 which I used pages!

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I just figured out that the time I need to make first sale in is 180 days, not 90. So I guess I will be able to achieve that. After one PBN link and social signals I am in the top 100 for lot of keywords. Rankings are varying from 30 to 90.

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e-service

7 years ago

I read all comments in this threas, and all i can say after read comment: "I love you guys".
This thread had a lot of information for all of us who are doing IM. thanks you so much Paul for opened this thread and shared a lot of DIAMOND idea in this thread. You are one of very very few masters IM shared information .
The most important is you helped us to trust about what we are doing with our online job.
Since you sold your website, this thread might not update in future, but i think you still update it when you got question from member like me? Or if you build new aff website, will you keep updating?

I have two questions for all of you guys:
1. Do you register new amazon aff account for each site? Of all site using same amazon account?
2. How about if you have been dennied after submit application for amazon aff? Will you leave website and creat new website or will you apply another account?.

Thanks you!

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Originally Posted by e-service

1. Do you register new amazon aff account for each site? Of all site using same amazon account?
2. How about if you have been dennied after submit application for amazon aff? Will you leave website and creat new website or will you apply another account?.

1. You can use same account, you are able to create different tracking ID for each website so you know where your clicks are coming from.

2. If you end up being denied, you can always re-apply with the same website. However, you would probably need to improve it according to the previous deny reason.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Originally Posted by e-service

I read all comments in this threas, and all i can say after read comment: "I love you guys".
This thread had a lot of information for all of us who are doing IM. thanks you so much Paul for opened this thread and shared a lot of DIAMOND idea in this thread. You are one of very very few masters IM shared information .
The most important is you helped us to trust about what we are doing with our online job.
Since you sold your website, this thread might not update in future, but i think you still update it when you got question from member like me? Or if you build new aff website, will you keep updating?

I have two questions for all of you guys:
1. Do you register new amazon aff account for each site? Of all site using same amazon account?
2. How about if you have been dennied after submit application for amazon aff? Will you leave website and creat new website or will you apply another account?.

Thanks you!

Thanks for this it means a lot. I may continue...As I've committed with a friend and made a fun bet. I'm planning on building 24 websites in 2017. If I don't, I have to sell my dream car LOL.

To your question
1) I use one amazon aff account and I just use different tags to keep track.
2) I would try to re-apply. Make sure your site looks good and has content!

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Here's a tip. If you have all the time in the world, or hell even if you don't and English is one of your primary languages, write the content! Content adds up and can cost a shit ton of $$!!

Think about this. Good quality content for 1,500 words is around $50. If you made a site with 30 pages, that's already $1,500!!! Or you can drip feed your content, and write two 1,500 pages of content a week (or more), that's 8 pages in one month where you saved $400! Now you can save that capital for pbns / social signals, guest posts, etc.

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Here's a tip. If you have all the time in the world, or hell even if you don't and English is one of your primary languages, write the content! Content adds up and can cost a shit ton of $$!!

Think about this. Good quality content for 1,500 words is around $50. If you made a site with 30 pages, that's already $1,500!!! Or you can drip feed your content, and write two 1,500 pages of content a week (or more), that's 8 pages in one month where you saved $400! Now you can save that capital for pbns / social signals, guest posts, etc.

I've written the content for my money pages, but it's sooo time consuming. I saved a lot by doing it tho.

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deepakrajput

7 years ago

Guest posting on high authority sites like theguardian can also helpful for your site traffic as ranking for amazon affiliate.

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GGpaul 7 years ago

Originally Posted by deepakrajput

Guest posting on high authority sites like theguardian can also helpful for your site traffic as ranking for amazon affiliate.

I agree. But also important to know who the author is. A lot of times, there are sellers offering guest posts on these sites but the accounts get banned quick.
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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

I've made a first sale!

But anyways, my traffic is still very very low. I have two money pages, one is focusing on a 590 searches pm keyword, and other is 1300. The 590 one is on the 26th place with one pbn link and without supporting articles. Do you think it's worth the effort to rank for keyword with this search volume? Products are priced around $500

The other one which has a 1300 searches per month got supporting articles, tightened on page SEO as much as I could, article is 4K words long, it had social signals and now a few PBN links are thrown to it, but it's still around 100th position. It's been a week or so since the links were built, and before them it wasn't even on a radar. I will see what happens and if I get stuck with this one I will shout for help

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Anyone had the rankings drop completely for a money page? For me it dropped from page 6 to a nowhere. Could that just be a dance? Or a sandbox? I don't think it's penguin because I have 13 PBN backlinks and anchors are all different, some naked and general ones are also included.

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GGpaul

7 years ago

Huge update guys

https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...rating/compare

This could heavily affect both positive/negative for amazon affiliates depending on what niche you're in.

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MikeFriedman

7 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Huge update guys

https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...rating/compare

This could heavily affect both positive/negative for amazon affiliates depending on what niche you're in.

I would start moving away from Amazon immediately.

This is the first step in them getting rid of the affiliate program completely, or to be more PR friendly they will just price it so low that nobody wants to be an affiliate there anymore.

Amazon has gotten huge. They don't need their affiliates anymore. I'm sure there are a few large partners they will want to come to some sort of private agreement with to keep on board, but outside of that, they are going to get rid of affiliates.

If you have Amazon sites you are thinking about flipping in the future, now is the time to unload them.

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Danijel Bjelancevic

7 years ago

Paul: Do you have any other PBN vendor recommendations? Waiting for Matt's network is taking forever and some crappy vendors that I've used so far did make improvements, but still going slow.

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ibuywireless

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijel Bjelancevic

Paul: Do you have any other PBN vendor recommendations? Waiting for Matt's network is taking forever and some crappy vendors that I've used so far did make improvements, but still going slow.

Hey did your site ever return to the serps?

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Danijel Bjelancevic 7 years ago

Originally Posted by ibuywireless

Hey did your site ever return to the serps?

Yeah it did, I am now 25th for 1300 search volume keyword and 16th for a 590 searches and $500+ product. There are of course many other keyword I rank for, most are around at positions 15 to 40.

How is your site doing? Wanna talk somewhere to exchange ideas etc?
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