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10 years ago

Install SEO quake extension in chrome. Search in google your topic, then it will display the sites with their PR ranking on it.

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cbpayne 10 years ago

Originally Posted by 3wCorner

then it will display the sites with their PR ranking on it.

and how exactly does it do that now that Google have cut off the PR pipeline?
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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by sophie26

How can i find niche related high pr blog for commenting?

Blogs don't have PR, individual URLs have PR.

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yukon

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Originally Posted by fastreplies

Trolling, eh?

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No, I wasn't trolling.

PR is specific to each individual URL, a site or blog does not have PR. Matter of fact it's a scam that link sellers use (fiverr, WSOs, etc...), their sales pitch blabbers on how the domain has PR which is deceiving noobs that don't have a clue how backlinks work & end up with useless PRn/a links that are buried & don't have any supporting links.

I was actually careful by saying URL because any file type that Google can index can have PR If there's followed links with existing PR pointing at the file URL.

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

You can call it whatever you want... trolling, shmolling... I don't care
Continue to talk about PR on a day Google officially have killed it,
in my book is trolling.

As to: 'you just won't see PR but it still used by Google' is just a lousy
excuse to continue sell backlinks, because lets face it, there is nothing
else you can sell but a shots of a snake oil to desperate for ranking people.

And as to your opinions... well, you know what you can do with them.

fastreplies

If you don't understand how links work that's fine but don't act like a douche saying I'm trolling when you're obviously trolling.

PR still exist, easy enough to prove by doing the same SEO that was done to rank pages 5 years ago. You can't undue history with your anti-link building nonsense.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

PR still exist, easy enough to prove by doing the same SEO that was done to rank pages 5 years ago. You can't undue history with your anti-link building nonsense.

Following your logic, if page doesn't have any backlinks, then that page would have PR of 0
or to be exact Google will show PR n/a. Are you saying that if there is no PR, Google will
assign no ranking value to that page thus won't give it any SERP?

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danparks

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Following your logic, if page doesn't have any backlinks, then that page would have PR of 0 or to be exact Google will show PR n/a. Are you saying that if there is no PR, Google will assign no ranking value to that page thus won't give it any SERP?

A page without any backlinks to it can still get PR. PR flows through links internal to the site. When a page with PR links to another page on the same site, it passes some of its PR to that page.

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10 years ago

That was an answer to your question. For real. You don't like the answer. That's different. If you think your question was not answered, maybe you should rephrase / ask the question you want an answer to.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Hey, stop selling wishful thinking and... can you read and then reply to my question?
If not, then go do something, like wash dishes or washrooms or whatever you do for living.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by DABK

That was an answer to your question. For real. You don't like the answer. That's different. If you think your question was not answered, maybe you should rephrase / ask the question you want an answer to.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Following your logic, if page doesn't have any backlinks

Read again what I have said and you will find that I'm talking about page without backlinks,
which even in layman language means NO external, NO internal and answer like that one:
When a page with PR links to another page on the same site no matter how many
times you would call it "real" answer is "real" bull sh*t answer

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yukon

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Originally Posted by fastreplies

Following your logic, if page doesn't have any backlinks, then that page would have PR of 0
or to be exact Google will show PR n/a. Are you saying that if there is no PR, Google will
assign no ranking value to that page thus won't give it any SERP?

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You don't need a single link If you're trying to rank for keywords that nobody cares about.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You don't need a single link If you're trying to rank for keywords that nobody cares about.

And what about if link is coming from page that doesn't have any PR
and keywords are the one everybody cares like: hotels, insurance etc?

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

And what about if link is coming from page that doesn't have any PR
and keywords are the one everybody cares like: hotels, insurance etc?

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That would be a weak link but it doesn't mean it's permanently a weak link since PR isn't static, it's constantly updating as Google finds more followed links pointing back to the webpage.

Authority doesn't just happen, it has to originate from somewhere else on the web. Don't ask where the first authority page came from (chicken vs egg).

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Authority doesn't just happen, it has to originate from somewhere else on the web. Don't ask where the first authority page came from (chicken vs egg).

Wrong, I know.
To start you have to learn new words because very soon you'll will use it instead of backlinks.
The words are:

Referral an act of referring someone or something for consultation, review, or further action.

Reference is a relation between objects in which one object designates, or acts as a means by which to connect to or link to, another object. The first object in this relation is said to refer to the second object.

Authority is based on referrals and/or references. Then more referrals, then more authority page has.

Referral or Reference may have hyperlink or may not.
For example: in my blog I'm making referral to your article using part of it in my blog
and making 'annotation' pointing to your article without using hyperlink at all or use
'yukon com'

Now here is the best part. Because G. can analyze words, it will use 'annotation'
as a referral from my site, Kumar's site etc. and use as a vote to calculate Authority.
Think scientific and technical sites that virtually never use hyperlinks

If you try to clear your mind and forget PR and backlinks garbage for long enough to
grasp that there is more than one way to skin a cat then you can bet G. is actively
working on ways to move forward leaving sorry PR past behind, then my brainstorming
somehow could make sense to you.

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Str8poopin

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Wrong, I know.
To start you have to learn new words because very soon you'll will use it instead of backlinks.

Authority is based on referrals. Then more referrals, then more authority page has.

Referral may have hyperlink or may not.
For example: in my blog I'm making referral to your article using part of it in my blog
and making 'annotation' pointing to your article without using hyperlink at all or use
'yukon com'

Now here is the best part. Because G. can analyze words, it will use 'annotation'
as a referral from my site, Kumar's site etc. and use as a vote to calculate Authority.
Think scientific and technical sites that virtually never use hyperlinks

If you try to clear your mind and forget PR and backlinks garbage for long enough to
grasp that there is more than one way to skin a cat and you can bet G. is actively
working on ways to more forward leaving sorry PR past behind, then my brainstorming
make sense.

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You really blew my mind there.

You must have been on cloud9 when you thought that up.

So, like, alright I see, so it's not the links, it's the referrals, but referrals are links. I don't do drugs but WOW, man, I think I'm going to need to smoke a bunch to really wrap my head around that.

So A = False, B = True, and B = A...

Man Google utilizes some ninja tactic stuff.

And like WHOA... Dude that means you can rank sites by just putting the name of a brand or a person on somebody else's site...

Man if there was only a way to test that.....

Originally Posted by yukon

Authority doesn't just happen, it has to originate from somewhere else on the web. Don't ask where the first authority page came from (chicken vs egg).

This is part theory and part from one of the patents:

Google does a calculation involving Trust and sites in their "Trusted sites list"

This is likely not a continuous calculation, but goes something like this:

All sites in the list have 100Trust, trust flows from those sites across the internet, trust is assigned accordingly.

Trust becomes authority and then flows back to those sites in the "Trusted sites list" based upon the value of the authority that flows back to those sites, they are assigned their authority level. (This prevents rank locking all of the trusted sites into the #1 spots.)

Then authority flows across the internet as normal with topical relevance and other factors now being applied.

I could be wrong, makes sense to me.

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danparks

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

The words are:
Authority is based on referrals and/or references. Then more referrals, then more authority page has.

Referral or Reference may have hyperlink or may not.
For example: in my blog I'm making referral to your article using part of it in my blog
and making 'annotation' pointing to your article without using hyperlink at all or use
'yukon com'

Now here is the best part. Because G. can analyze words, it will use 'annotation'
as a referral from my site, Kumar's site etc. and use as a vote to calculate Authority.
Think scientific and technical sites that virtually never use hyperlinks

If you try to clear your mind and forget PR and backlinks garbage for long enough to
grasp that there is more than one way to skin a cat then you can bet G. is actively
working on ways to move forward leaving sorry PR past behind, then my brainstorming
somehow could make sense to you.

Wow, amazing what you consider your "brainstorming." You're talking about brand mentions, or citations. That idea has been around for years. I do it myself as part of SEO. I'll include mention of the site's business name, surrounded by text that's topical to the words the business would like to rank. And occasionally I don't include a link. Certainly Google can be aware of that, and, perhaps include that in a site's (brand's) popularity, or authority. But no one knows how much that helps in rankings, so I certainly don't ignore the one thing that Google has said matters, and the one thing that we all (excepting you) knows ranks keywords - backlinks on relevant, authoritative pages. And yes, PageRank has been, and still is, a key to "authority." How do I know that? Still ranking keywords for clients using primarily contextual backlinks in relevant text articles, from sites I know are good. I know they're good because I own hundreds of them ;-)

You think mentions, or citations, are powerful? Maybe they are becoming more powerful. Why you then take the leap to say backlinks from authoritative pages don't matter (in fact, you make them sound like a bad idea or waste of time, they're "garbage"), makes absolutely no sense.

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fastreplies 10 years ago

Originally Posted by danparks

And yes, PageRank has been, and still is, a key to "authority."

Authority based on PR, which based on backlinks, which you can buy 10,000
of them from some Indian SEO for 50 cents? Authority based on PR? What a joke

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- Str8poopin 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fastreplies
  
  Authority based on PR, which based on backlinks, which you can buy 10,000
  of them from some Indian SEO for 50 cents? Authority based on PR? What a joke
  
  Yeah except those links would be poop.
  
  Some of us use tools like GSA and understand the value of poop links.
  
  They're poop.
  
  You need like 100k poop links to do anything these days. And then penguin will poop all over your site.
  
  Kind of need a strategy here to avoid getting pooped on.
  
  So you could do something like, use a page in between poop mountain and your site, that way your money site isn't directly next to the poop volcano.
  
  There's a little bit more to this, I'm just giving basic details here. Obviously what really needs to be done here is you channel the power of a massive amount of poop (think army of poop factories) into your site, in a way where, you don't get pooped on by penguin. Even if you can avoid penguin, a manual reviewer will have no problem taking a massive poop all over your site.
  
  So think about it this way, a dam that was holding back a billion gallons of poop broke and your only escape is to tight rope walk across poop canyon, while helicopters try to dump poop on you. That's what SEO is like.
  
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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Wrong, I know.
To start you have to learn new words because very soon you'll will use it instead of backlinks.
The words are:

Authority is based on referrals and/or references. Then more referrals, then more authority page has.

Referral or Reference may have hyperlink or may not.
For example: in my blog I'm making referral to your article using part of it in my blog
and making 'annotation' pointing to your article without using hyperlink at all or use
'yukon com'

Now here is the best part. Because G. can analyze words, it will use 'annotation'
as a referral from my site, Kumar's site etc. and use as a vote to calculate Authority.
Think scientific and technical sites that virtually never use hyperlinks

If you try to clear your mind and forget PR and backlinks garbage for long enough to
grasp that there is more than one way to skin a cat then you can bet G. is actively
working on ways to move forward leaving sorry PR past behind, then my brainstorming
somehow could make sense to you.

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Links for SEO don't work that way.

You're assuming all links are equal which is wrong.

A single followed link on an authority page like the ebay.com Home page URL is stronger than 200 trillion nofollow forum profile links.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Links for SEO don't work that way.

Correction: didn't

Originally Posted by yukon

You're assuming all links are equal which is wrong.

Come on youkon, give me credit for God's sake

Originally Posted by yukon

A single followed link on an authority page like the ebay.com Home page URL is stronger than 200 trillion nofollow forum profile links.

Why Home page only?

You can bet your sweet ratatouille if there is no link at all, just a reference,
Google will happily accept it as positive vote and use it in it Algo to calculate SERP

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Correction: didn't

Come on yukon, give me credit for God's sakes

Oh, I'm giving you credit but it's probably not the type of credit you want.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Why Home page only?

The Home page was an example of an authority URL. Read my previous comment that you quoted (URL).

Originally Posted by fastreplies

You can bet your sweet ratatouille if there is no link at all, just a reference,
Google will happily accept it as positive vote and use it in it Algo to calculate SERP

A citation is not a followed backlink.

You want citations? We have citations: waffle unicorn jackwagon battery pill

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

I have one for you even more descriptive: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... blah, blah
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da life goes on bra

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Lol, that's my point. Nobody cares about the keyword which means you don't need any followed links to rank on the SERPs.

The good news is you'll rank this page for your keyword the next time it's reindexed... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... blah, blah
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da life goes on bra

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BrownBeard

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

You want citations? We have citations: waffle unicorn jackwagon battery pill

The fact that somebody setup a network site, to outrank forums, on that random keyword should be proof to anybody that it's followed links (and not much else.)

Local citations that have absolutely nothing to do with the keyword and some extremely minor onpage efforts are enough to beat WF and SMF.

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yukon

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Originally Posted by BrownBeard

The fact that somebody setup a network site, to outrank forums, on that random keyword should be proof to anybody that it's followed links (and not much else.)

Local citations that have absolutely nothing to do with the keyword and some extremely minor onpage efforts are enough to beat WF and SMF.

Yea, that started out as a joke but it does prove a few things like you said. If nobody else cares about the keyword on-page text is enough to rank the page. If there's SERP competition odds are they're building followed links to outrank the weaker pages that only used on-page text. This is typical for longtail keywords.

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Str8poopin

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Links for SEO don't work that way.

You're assuming all links are equal which is wrong.

A single followed link on an authority page like the ebay.com Home page URL is stronger than 200 trillion nofollow forum profile links.

200 trillion nofollow forum profile links? Probably way more then that, the only way the links could be worse is if they were on pages that robots.txt didn't allow googlebot to go.

The Ebay RD link would be *more powerful* than 6.02214179�--10^23 Nofollow forum profile links (orphaned pages typically.)

By comparison, if you build a single followed forum profile, then shot some poop links at it, which were followed, that would be like a rank hack compared to the nofollowed profiles.

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danparks

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Blogs don't have PR, individual URLs have PR.

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Trolling, eh?

You have an odd sense of what trolling is. Completely accurate statement. A blog, or website, doesn't have PageRank. Each individual page (or URL, as Yukon worded it) does. I know you hate the idea of PR and backlinks, but this is just a simple fact. URLs have PR.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by danparks

You have an odd sense of what trolling is. Completely accurate statement. A blog, or website, doesn't have PageRank. Each individual page (or URL, as Yukon worded it) does. I know you hate the idea of PR and backlinks, but this is just a simple fact. URLs have PR.

And yet in old good "PR" times billions of sites index page would have
PR 1 or whatever, and the rest of pages for some reason "0". Why is that?

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danparks 10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

And yet in old good "PR" times billions of sites index page would have
PR 1 or whatever, and the rest of pages for some reason "0". Why is that?

Well that simply proves the point. All pages on a site don't have the same PR, because PR isn't a "site" value, it's a page value. On most sites the home page (index page) will have the highest PR of all site pages, because typically the home page is the recipient of the most backlinks (most people that link to site link to the home page, not an inner page).

A home page with PR1 sends some PR to inner pages (depending on how the site has internal linking set up). So some internal pages might be PR1, but many would be PR0. Additionally, the toolbar PR isn't an exact figure - it's rounded off. So who knows, maybe the home page is PR1.2, and listed as PR1. And maybe an inner page is PR0.3, and listed as PR0.
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  danparks 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fastreplies
  
  You're wrong.
  The point there is no point in point you're trying to make.
  
  Odd that just about every other post of yours is accusing someone of trolling, and then your replies seem pretty much just that themselves.
  
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  nettiapina 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by danparks
  
  Odd that just about every other post of yours is accusing someone of trolling, and then your replies seem pretty much just that themselves.
  
  This would've been my comment too.
  
  Also, the lack of any point. Of course, that goes hand-in-hand with this style of posting.
  
  Originally Posted by sophie26
  
  How can i find niche related high pr blog for commenting?
  
  As Yukon pointed out "high PR blog" doesn't really mean anything. You're not getting a link on that front page unless you're getting a link to the sidebar or something. The individual articles will typically roll off the front page in couple of days, and they're not typically linked in the main navigation either.
  
  Comment links are pretty much useless when it comes to ranking pages.
  
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10 years ago

Only individual URLs have PR.

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danparks

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Read again what I have said and you will find that I'm talking about page without backlinks, which even in layman language means NO external, NO internal

Actually, you're about the only person around that when talking about "backlinks" is referring to internal links as well as external links. Most people associate "backlinks" with links from other sites, as in "how do I get them?". Most people refer to links from one page of a site to another page of the same site as internal links, not "backlinks."

A site owner when creating a new post will have it linked to from somewhere on his site (home page, another internal page, categories page, etc). So, it's pretty unusual for a page to not have a single internal link to it. It's even more unusual to talk about whether an orphan page (nothing links to it) ranks.

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fastreplies 10 years ago

Originally Posted by danparks

Most people refer to links from one page of a site to another page of the same site as internal links, not "backlinks."

Another BS answer.

Call them whatever you want backlinks or links, Yukon is talking about PR and because
backlinks/links are brick and mortar of PR without backlinks/links there is NO PR.

Now, prove me wrong

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danparks

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Call them whatever you want backlinks or links, Yukon is talking about PR and because backlinks/links are brick and mortar of PR without backlinks/links there is NO PR.

Now, prove me wrong

If that's your claim, that no incoming links of any type means no PR, then yeah, that's right. No need to "prove" anything. There's nothing controversial about that.

So, is this a setup for your continuing claims that backlinks don't matter? Because without links a page won't have PR? Big deal. You're talking about a page that has no backlinks from other websites, and no internal links from any other page on its own site. That's an "orphan" page and Google may not even find it (nothing linking to it), so it probably won't be indexed, let alone ranking for anything. Perhaps it might rank for an extremely low competitive, obscure phrase that no one is attempting to rank for. Will it rank for anything at all competitive? No. No decent backlinks to the page.

Why not just test things yourself. Create a new page on your site with an article about auto insurance. Make sure not to have any of your site pages link to the new page. Cross your fingers that no other site on the Internet creates a single backlink to the new page. Then sit back and wait for Google to rank the page for "buy auto insurance."

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fastreplies 10 years ago

Originally Posted by danparks

You're talking about a page that has no backlinks from other websites, and no internal links from any other page on its own site.

Again, read what I have said.
Pages might have links from internal pages WITHOUT any PR

Originally Posted by danparks

No decent backlinks to the page.

You wanna to be technical?
25 years ago, even before W3school, we call them hyperlinks, not even links.
If you check Wiki or Dictionaries there is no definition for "backlinks" and "most people",
I guarantee, as you are, have no idea how to create page using notepad the only tool
was available for webmasters before MS come up with FrontPage.

Originally Posted by danparks

Why not just test things yourself.

I don't have to because I have played these games before Google with Lycos, Crawler,
AltaVista, before SEO become a terminology and using nothing but keywords have had
sites I have managed in first page.

So, I guess what I'm trying to say, I have forgot most of what you have discovered
yesterday or will discover a year from now.

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- Jason Ladlee 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fastreplies
  
  If you check Wiki or Dictionaries there is no definition for "backlinks"
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlink
  
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yd143

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sophie26

How can i find niche related high pr blog for commenting?

NO PR ANYMORE? every website is showing 0 PR

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