Google does not like 'free' domains?

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I've always heard how Google was supposed to like Squidoo, Blogger etc, so for one of my site, I wanted to create a lot of those sites.

Now one week later none of them has been indexed. I did social bookmark them, but not too much to avoid spamming.

Yet, they're not indexed.

On the other hand, when I make a Wordpress blog on my own domain, it's indexed within 24 hours and get nice traffic from the initial SEO boost.

What's your experience?
#domains #free #google
  • Profile picture of the author getreffs
    I am not agree with you.
    I am using Blogger and all my blogs are performing very well.
    All of blogs has indexed in 2 or 3 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author techngear
    The free domains is slowly to index.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
    Originally Posted by JackPowers View Post

    I've always heard how Google was supposed to like Squidoo, Blogger etc, so for one of my site, I wanted to create a lot of those sites.

    Now one week later none of them has been indexed. I did social bookmark them, but not too much to avoid spamming.

    Yet, they're not indexed.

    On the other hand, when I make a Wordpress blog on my own domain, it's indexed within 24 hours and get nice traffic from the initial SEO boost.

    What's your experience?
    @ JackPowers

    Getting indexed with Web 2.0 Properties such as Squidoo, Blogger, etc., is not what it used to be. It takes some relatively simple ingenuity to get your sites indexed because of the competition. Here's how you can INSTANTLY tell if your site is going to EVER show up in the Google index. I'm going to use Squidoo as an example...

    (1) Go to Google and type in: site:squidoo.com - you must copy and paste and type this EXACTLY as is, no spaces!!!

    You will notice that Squidoo has as of today, Results 1 - 10 of about 2,270,000 from squidoo.com. (0.18 seconds) 2.27 million pages indexed.

    (2). Now lets drill down on a specific keyword phrase. In our example, we'll use, "medicine vioxx" Our drill down will look like this, site:squidoo.com medicine vioxx

    And here are our results, Results 1 - 10 of about 43 from squidoo.com for medicine vioxx. (0.34 seconds)

    Only 43 pages in Squidoo wth those keywords, but NONE of those pages are SEO Optimized to that specific phrase, "medicine vioxx". Meaning, if you built a Squidoo page with a URL that looked like this, squidoo.com/medicine-vioxx and your page was properly SEO optimized, you would no doubt pull the #1 ranking in Squidoo for that keyword phrase and get indexed by Google and potentially rank pretty high on the Google SERP.

    However, on the flip side, let's say you used the keyword phrase, "make money online"

    You results would be over 65k pages in Squidoo alone, Results 1 - 10 of about 65,600 from squidoo.com for make money online. (0.29 seconds)

    Here's some of your competition...

    Make Money Online Fast Headquarters
    Make Money Online Headquarters
    Way To Make Money Online Headquarters
    Make Money Online Headquarters
    Ways To Make Money Online Headquarters
    Free Online Money Making Tutorial Headquarters

    What this simply means is that people building new lenses on Squidoo using the keyword phrase, "make money online" will never see the light of day in Squidoo unless they market that lense sun up and sun down everyday for who knows how long. Three months? Five Months? Seven months?

    In Google that same keyword phrase reveals: Results 1 - 10 of about 176,000,000 for make money online. (0.38 seconds)

    One hundred and SEVENTY SIX MILLION results!!! A person would probably have to spend the next 9 months to a year working to push their site to page 1 on Google for that phrase.

    So the answer to the question as why didn't your site get indexed with the Web 2.0 properties is in the form of a question. Did you check your keyword or keyword phrase for the competition? (A.K.A Keyword Research) And you have to do this for EVERY keyword.

    Using Squidoo as an example, Google in only going to index a few pages from Squidoo for each keyword phrase. No one really knows what the exact cutoff is but it seems to be around two to three, more closer to TWO.

    In summation, DO YOUR Homework before writing an article, building a lense or otherwise launching a Web 2.0 campaign.

    Hope that helps!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonGiorgini
    Very Detailed Response Crew Chief. You are right, before you build a 2.0 site, you better do your homework.
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  • Profile picture of the author JackPowers
    Great response Chief!

    Using your method I found 1,200 for the broad term and none for the excact term, using the keyword in my squidoo url.

    So, I hope this means it will show up sooner or later?

    That makes me wonder how effective strategies like the linkwheel are?
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  • Profile picture of the author Crafty Blogger
    In my experience, sites like blogspot take a little longer to get indexed than, say, a Wordpress blog hosted with a company, but it will happen. In my experience, it usually takes a week or two, although it can happen a little quicker sometimes if I write an ezine article with backlinks to the blog.

    I don't worry about it, just be patient. Some of my best performing sites are on free domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author Crew Chief
      :p
      Originally Posted by Crafty Blogger View Post

      In my experience, sites like blogspot take a little longer to get indexed than, say, a Wordpress blog hosted with a company, but it will happen. In my experience, it usually takes a week or two, although it can happen a little quicker sometimes if I write an ezine article with backlinks to the blog.

      I don't worry about it, just be patient. Some of my best performing sites are on free domains.
      Just a note for clarity's sake: Search Engines are not checking to see if its a FREE or PAID domain. Currently, ranking high boils down to:

      (a). The Keyword phrase you've chosen (Choose carefully)
      (b). SEO Optimization *(Yours and Your competition's)
      (c). The keyword competition (250k results versus 11 million results)
      (d). LSI Latent Semantic Indexing (Currently Google only)
      (e). Number of back links with link juice

      Here are two other points you should be aware of and these are CRUCIAL!!!

      (1). Just getting indexed is not enough! You want to have a clear cut plan to get on Page 1 of the SERPs for that keyword phrase. That's where the HUGE money is... (But you already knew that!, Right? Right!)

      (2). *In terms of beating out your competition in the SERPs, you first need to know what that page is laid out, (i.e., SEO and backlinks). Once you learn this, ranking high on keyword phrases will NEVER be hit or miss.

      There is a FREE tool that allows you to do this effortlessly. This is assuming that you are using FIREFOX.

      It is: SearchStatus | Firefox SEO Toolbar Extension

      When you download and install it, you instantly get: Google Page Rank, Alexa Ranking, Compete Ranking and mozRank. Plus you get: keyword density, number of backlinks, Whois, Meta tags, their sitemap if they have one and you can quickly determine if the page is a "NO follow" or a "DO follow" web page. There are other similar tools on the market, but this is the best. IMO.

      Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author HomeComputerGames
    Crew Chief has pretty much summed it up.
    These "free domains" such as on blogger.com are not domains at all.
    Blogger.com is the domain.
    These blogs are subdomains or just customized links from the main domain.
    Also there is a big difference when Google crawls a new domain compared to one with millions of pages on it.
    It simply takes longer to crawl and index millions of pages compared to the few pages in a new domain.

    100% agree with (2). *In terms of beating out your competition in the SERPs, you first need to know what that page is laid out, (i.e., SEO and backlinks). Once you learn this, ranking high on keyword phrases will NEVER be hit or miss.
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  • Profile picture of the author d101
    ... i would say, the 'indexing part of things' goes pretty fast. The 'ranking' is another story and has do with a lot of stuff in the mix.

    I have recently placed some tracker links in twitter messages to measure the viral dynamics - the google bot takes em within seconds.

    The warrior forum posts seem to be picked up within the hour, too.

    I had a podcast directory entry show up within 5 minutes first page for a quite competitive key phrase ...

    The popular free domain providers seem to have the advantage to be on the radar all the time. Its up to us to provide the hot topic of the time and all can happen fast ... ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author pan2588
    I have a free google site, and same is my case. No PR, no traffic. I am trying to create backlinks for it, to improve the status.
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