Google Limits Keyword Planner search Amounts

10 years ago

Originally Posted by hardworker2013

Hello guys, Google officially throttled Keyword Planner data for low spending AdWords accounts. Therefore if you are a free user of the tool or you do not spend a substantial amount on ads you will not get any search results when using the tool. See image below.

This is going to cause problems for those doing SEO marketing who does not have a big adwords account.What are your opinion on this matter?

That's right. For that reason, keyword tools like Long Tail Pro and Market Samurai will not be able to give you search data because those tools depend on your individual account.

I've foreseen this problem coming so I created my tool where it does not rely on user's Adword account and would just work right when you sign in.

Keep in mind that "big spenders" still get to see these Search Volume in details. Just that Google won't disclose what is considered to be "big spending".

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hardworker2013

10 years ago

Originally Posted by VincentD

That's right. For that reason, keyword tools like Long Tail Pro and Market Samurai will not be able to give you search data because those tools depend on your individual account.

I've foreseen this problem coming so I created my tool where it does not rely on user's Adword account and would just work right when you sign in.

Keep in mind that "big spenders" still get to see these Search Volume in details. Just that Google won't disclose what is considered to be "big spending".

What is the name of your Keyword Tool?

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VincentD 10 years ago

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The Leader

10 years ago

I was using it extensively last night and found no changes to it.

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10 years ago

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blackcod

10 years ago

I have a penalised google adwords account still found no such changes!

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arushithakur

10 years ago

I have been using this tool since 2010 and I havenâ€™t seen any significant changes. Keywords planner is still displaying data in the same manner as it was showing earlier.

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Beth Wilson

10 years ago

Lol i freaked out and checked my Google planner. Fortunately everything is okay at my end!

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paulgl

10 years ago

Originally Posted by hardworker2013

Hello guys, G
This is going to cause problems for those doing SEO marketing who does not have a big adwords account.What are your opinion on this matter?

It's not going to cause anyone SEO problems. You think everyone uses adwords?

Sure, it might cause you problems because you have no clue as to what you are doing.

Don't lump everyone in with you.

Keyword planner has nothing to do with anyone's SEO.....except yours.

Paul

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Mike Anthony

10 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

It's not going to cause anyone SEO problems. You think everyone uses adwords?

Sure, it might cause you problems because you have no clue as to what you are doing.

What an absolutely and utterly ridiculous post. Who has better information about queries to their dataset on what people search for in their search engine than Google? Go ahead show us a potentially more RELIABLE data source than Google.

There is none and there can be none unless you are the NSA hacking into google's data base tables.

Don't lump everyone in with you.

I at least am not. I am lumping you among those that are clueless on SEO (outside of buying links) and don;t know that most of the industry uses Keyword planner data either directly or indirectly.

You've really exposed yourself this time and giving horrible advice and a baffling view of what SEO is.

Keyword planner has nothing to do with anyone's SEO.....except yours.

Paul

Please never let me see you complaining about Indian SEOs again. Thats the most absurd statement made on this forum. Anyone can do a search on google and see just about every major SEo training and news reporting site covering the keyword planner and in years gone by the keyword tool.

apparently everyone knows this but you

totally ridiculous claim.

Now are there less than direct and not as reliable work arounds? sure ...almost always but to say it doesn't affect SEO is just asinine. Its like there are three or four long term posters here that just use google turning off data to try and fake like they are SEO gurus by saying "it doesn't matter what Google shuts off because we are so brilliant we never needed or used any data from google".

again just Too silly.

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ninjawin

10 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

It's not going to cause anyone SEO problems. You think everyone uses adwords?

Sure, it might cause you problems because you have no clue as to what you are doing.

Don't lump everyone in with you.

Keyword planner has nothing to do with anyone's SEO.....except yours.

Paul

It's a huge problem if google keyword is showing 1k to 10k range instead of the rather exact numbers .

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PancakeSexual

10 years ago

I haven't noticed any change yet. It wouldn't be the end of the world though if that was the case, there are many alternatives out there if you know where to look.

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VincentD

10 years ago

Google is now catching up on old accounts. Anyone else started to notice the changes?

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Matthew Lake1

10 years ago

Is there any point in purchasing long tail pro right now then? Or just wait until they come up with a solution?

Any decently priced alternatives?

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VincentD 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Lake1

Is there any point in purchasing long tail pro right now then? Or just wait until they come up with a solution?

Any decently priced alternatives?

My tool is an affordable alternative and it does not use your Adword account. We use our own Adword account to get the search volume data from Google.
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hardworker2013 10 years ago

Longtail pro has stated they are trying a work around so do not buy as yet
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ninjawin

10 years ago

This is sad.. anyone have any good alternatives?

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hmh11ltkprc 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ninjawin

This is sad.. anyone have any good alternatives?

Hey, you can try Keyword suggestion of Proseokit. It is free now.
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  Originally Posted by hmh11ltkprc
  
  Hey, you can try Keyword suggestion of Proseokit. It is free now.
  
  This doesn't look like he's plugging a website
  
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VincentD

10 years ago

Mike Anthony is right, without Search Volume data, how do you prioritize your keyword optimization? And if the search volume data doesn't come from Google itself, how do you know it's accurate?

Our tool is still getting search volume data directly from Google Adword because we've been doing it from the beginning while Long Tail Pro relying on user's Adword account. So when Google decides to get rid of small players (the average users), that's where Long Tail Pro software stops working.

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altonroot

10 years ago

I don't know why Google is playing with this? Adwords is the highest earning product for them and keyword searches are basically attracts more customers to adwords. As per their reason, to stop bulk queries, they can put restriction on API. Why on manual queries. And once your campaign starts, opportunity tab is enough to add more keywords, nobody needs keyword planner. Keyword planner is needed before you start the campaign.

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AnshumanMondal12

10 years ago

What I have seen so far now is that the new adwords accounts with less or no ad spending were affected. However, got to know from many of my friends that gradually the older adwords accounts are also getting impacted by Google's throttling.

Having said that, I agree with most of you out here, that tools like Long Tail Pro and Market Samurai (who depend on the feed from individual adwords account) will cease to function accurately.

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andrewjgitt

10 years ago

i have exact same issue, it's a big problem
the other vendors don't have same data google has

i used Long Tail Pro but they are tied to google

it sucks!

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Dracor

10 years ago

Market Samurai is switching their search results data to Bing. Noble Samurai - Recent Changes to Market Samurai

But... as far as I can tell, this hasn't happened yet as my copy no longer works. It's very frustrating.

BTW: I have it installed on 2 machines, the one that has been updated no longer gathers keyword data, the one that HASN'T been updated DOES still collect data, but it's the new truncated version as per the change. (ie, 10,100, 1000 etc - no specific numbers)

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VincentD

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dracor

Market Samurai is switching their search results data to Bing. Noble Samurai - Recent Changes to Market Samurai

But... as far as I can tell, this hasn't happened yet as my copy no longer works. It's very frustrating.

BTW: I have it installed on 2 machines, the one that has been updated no longer gathers keyword data, the one that HASN'T been updated DOES still collect data, but it's the new truncated version as per the change. (ie, 10,100, 1000 etc - no specific numbers)

Seriously, why pay for software that is either not working or giving you BS numbers? If you need search volume data from Google then getting it from Bing doesn't make sense. My tool lets you get search volume data from Google for any keywords you want. You can either put in your own list of keywords and get search volume data for them, or you can generate the keywords using the tool and it gives you search volume data for all of them. All of this without the need of your own Adword account. Our tool uses our own Adword account so you never have to worry about how much to spend on your account to get the accurate data.

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Dracor

10 years ago

Originally Posted by VincentD

Seriously, why pay for software that is either not working or giving you BS numbers? If you need search volume data from Google then getting it from Bing doesn't make sense. My tool lets you get search volume data from Google for any keywords you want. You can either put in your own list of keywords and get search volume data for them, or you can generate the keywords using the tool and it gives you search volume data for all of them. All of this without the need of your own Adword account. Our tool uses our own Adword account so you never have to worry about how much to spend on your account to get the accurate data.

So what happens if/when your adword account gets shut down?

It seems even more unreliable to me.

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VincentD

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dracor

So what happens if/when your adword account gets shut down?

It seems even more unreliable to me.

If Google shut down our Adword account, that means they will have to shut down every remaining Adword accounts on this planet.

Let's say even that happens, then no one has access to Google's keyword search volume data, even the heavy paying customers of Adword. Then everyone is on an equal battle ground; but as you know currently it is not: some don't, some do. We are not afraid of changes. We see it as opportunity, like the one we're having now. Market Samurai and LTP assume things will be the same for the past 6 years, that's why their software stops working.

So as I see, these are the current options for keyword researcher:

1. Do nothing. Let the competitors take over the SEO game.

2. Use tools that give you Bing data to estimate Google's search volume data while your competitors are using tool like RankBrain.me to get real and accurate search volume data to optimize for their keywords.

3. Use RankBrain.me tool for only $1/month to get accurate data from Google to make sure you don't fall behind. If anything happens like the risk you mentioned, you can always cancel and save your precious $1.

Which one do you think makes sense at this point?

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Vincent

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Dracor

10 years ago

You say: "If Google shut down our Adword account, that means they will have to shut down every remaining Adword accounts on this planet."

But I don't see your reasoning. Google just shut down access to search volume for the majority of the planet last week. What makes your account so special? You're vulnerable just like everyone else.

I don't deny that you're currently getting search volume figures and that your software works right now. $1 per month is damn cheap... but quite frankly, that's all I'd be willing to spend given that your site could go down at any minute too.

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VincentD

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dracor

You say: "If Google shut down our Adword account, that means they will have to shut down every remaining Adword accounts on this planet."

But I don't see your reasoning. Google just shut down access to search volume for the majority of the planet last week. What makes your account so special? You're vulnerable just like everyone else.

I don't deny that you're currently getting search volume figures and that your software works right now. $1 per month is damn cheap... but quite frankly, that's all I'd be willing to spend given that your site could go down at any minute too.

I understand you're skeptical at this point, so let me clarify a few things:

1. What makes your account so special? You're vulnerable just like everyone else. <--- This is like asking where I store my money... I won't go into details -- Sorry.

2. Google can be crazy and shut down ALL accounts too for "god-known" reasons. I would be bullshitting if I tell you that our tool will be providing you search volume data "forever". But even if Google gets to this crazy mode, what I'm trying to tell you is that you're not locked in any long term contract with us, you can just simply cancel the monthly subscription.

3. Why we are not afraid of Google's craziness? Because we constantly change over time. I believe the SEO landscape will be very different just a year from now and we always look to build /update our tool to stay relevant. Google itself cannot be the same, otherwise they'll be like Yahoo. So we expect them to keep changing and we're ready to adapt.

Hope that clears things up.

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ninjawin

10 years ago

Originally Posted by VincentD

I understand you're skeptical at this point, so let me clarify a few things:

1. What makes your account so special? You're vulnerable just like everyone else. <--- This is like asking where I store my money... I won't go into details -- Sorry.

2. Google can be crazy and shut down ALL accounts too for "god-known" reasons. I would be bullshitting if I tell you that our tool will be providing you search volume data "forever". But even if Google gets to this crazy mode, what I'm trying to tell you is that you're not locked in any long term contract with us, you can just simply cancel the monthly subscription.

3. Why we are not afraid of Google's craziness? Because we constantly change over time. I believe the SEO landscape will be very different just a year from now and we always look to build /update our tool to stay relevant. Google itself cannot be the same, otherwise they'll be like Yahoo. So we expect them to keep changing and we're ready to adapt.

Hope that clears things up.

Cheers,

sounds good.. do u have any trial? and does this works for asian countries ?

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VincentD 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ninjawin

sounds good.. do u have any trial? and does this works for asian countries ?

Yes. We do have free 14-day trial. And it does work for asian countries.
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  Originally Posted by VincentD
  
  Yes. We do have free 14-day trial. And it does work for asian countries.
  
  Are your results the exact copy adwords results? I would like to have a trial..
  
  5 bucks per month for the minimum service right?
  
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st0nec0ld

10 years ago

Business is business, this is not surprising anymore.

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