Sidewiki and NoIndex

I don't know enough about noindex..but this is an interesting idea.

Does noindex mean pages don't get indexed in google,but will for other SE's?

In my opinion,if google manages to index pages that aren't indexable,once again thats encroaching on the right to choose to use a search engine. especially if the use the iframe. (iframe example page 5 or 6 of the If you want to take a stand against google..sidewiki thread)

If someone comments with sidewiki on your noindex marked page...

That sidewiki comment shows up in their sidewiki profile along with a hyperlink to that page.

The sidewiki profile is indexed by google and public so anyone can find your pages that have been commented on via a sidewiki profile...

So if you are using noindex to hide thank you pages etc...

Good luck ;-)

I wish i knew more about iframes/javascript. etc.

From the sounds of it,it doesnt sound like it can be possible to break out of the iframe..if the toolbar isn't optout and the content from the sidewiki is used in iframe.

I don't think securing every page would work..imagine the number of potential readers/rss subscribers on blogs..if you had to approve every reader? Not to mention complicating setting up sites.

From my limited coding knowledge..the only way (apart from courts telling google they can't frame..) is to boycott google/deindex all sites on google..and market madly to everyone the reasons or at least marketers can start telling their own audience(perhaps before dumping google) to use another search engine etc.

I'm not familiar with what third voice could do,and whether the same tech was used..or even if what google is doing is the same as a website owner framing a site.
From the looks of it,i'm guessing google from all the spidering,has duplicated the site,and hosting it on thier own server.

How on earth do you stop a search engine,thats not just a search engine from hosting copies of your site on their server?

Too bad there wasn't a hacker somewhere on this planet that could do it -rofl!

I agree. It does indeed look like google is forcing this "gated community" approach.

effective means could be-
*educating the public why "your/the site" is moving towards a membership. (i.e. we need to inform any customers why they need to sign up becuase google is forcing this change / i/we the site owner supports a freedom from harrasment internet etc etc)

The problem with gated communities(if this then occurs with all current sites/blogs)..alot of smaller operators will have to close,essentially leaving the 'bigger boys' in town so to speak, becuase of the so called trust factor.

Any current memberships will benefit becuase it then creates a situation in the customers mind "why would i want to leave example1.com for example2.com?" Which further makes a mockery of google wanting to clean up trash on net,becuase then there would be all out wars on spamwiki,trying to convince people to come to their sites.
Don't forget about what the possibilities with Wave are. I was reading this
Google Wave of the Future Revolutionizing the Web

This is interesting also. Google's Sidewiki Profiles Internet Users? | InventorSpot

The problems we're facing arent just with sidewiki,but with wave also.
Will wave be able to blocked? will it be delivered via the sidewiki?
It's looking obvious that google wants to data mine everything we're saying.

Then,looking even further ahead,once the majority of sites are gated..things will evolve to a point where customers/visitors will resent it and websites will have to open once again..and if the whole sidewiki thing isn't resolved..google wins. (if it get's to the point where site's have to be gated.)

Imagine the data google will get..if everything a person does is centralised on their servers.
We're heading towards a monopolised and censored internet.
I just hope enough marketers wake up to it.

hmm..the only other effective solution that i can think of right now is,we start promoting other search engines.

Pretty much this is what everyone would need to do-
1. There are already people working on blocking/redirecting scripts.
2. Promote other search engines
3. Educate the masses
4. boycott all google products.
5. petitions and making organisations aware of whats happening.
6. Educate your own customers on goog is doing/pitfalls and why the site/s is changing.
6. Change all our sites into 'gated communities'.

BUT- what about those of us who have salespages? Is this the death of the ebook?
No one would want to get a password just to read a salespage on a product they might or might not want.